Overpaying a Herald to top deck a card, then overpaying a Doctor to trash it is expensive and silly, but it could be a wise option in extremely rare scenarios.Well, it potentially enables you to trash all 30 curses you gained in a single buy phase in a 4-player game.
Doh!With Squire and Watchtower on the board you can have two turn 3 possessions and even topdeck them. (Although usually you only want to topdeck one of them.)MONGOL HORDE
$5 - Action
+1 Buy, +$2
You may gain one Kingdom card from the Supply, and trash a card from the same pile. When you do, reveal your hand and trash any revealed Victory cards.
We've had a lot of fun playing with this card, using it to take piles down quickly, or to gain attacks and trash them, weakening opponents' counter-attacking chances. It's a good buy early, useful in trashing Estates. One of my new favorite cards.
Turn 3 Possession FTW?
Possession isn't an attack?
With Squire and Watchtower on the board you can have two turn 3 possessions and even topdeck them. (Although usually you only want to topdeck one of them.)MONGOL HORDE
$5 - Action
+1 Buy, +$2
You may gain one Kingdom card from the Supply, and trash a card from the same pile. When you do, reveal your hand and trash any revealed Victory cards.
We've had a lot of fun playing with this card, using it to take piles down quickly, or to gain attacks and trash them, weakening opponents' counter-attacking chances. It's a good buy early, useful in trashing Estates. One of my new favorite cards.
Turn 3 Possession FTW?
well, yeah, but chancellor needs more combos! that might be too good though.It is still not even half as ridiculous as Rebuild/Tunnel.
Are there any cards currently that specifically reward you for having Curses (or Ruins, I guess), other than Mountebank? (Yeah, Ambassador, but that doesn't specifically tell you you want curses.) I feel like that might be an intentional design decision, so new players don't see your card and think "Man, I need to buy some Curses to go with this!" It happens often enough that I see people buy Estates to match up with their Crossroads.Vagrant in combination with discard for benefit cards.
I'm not sure what you mean. Butcher gives you 2 coins every time you play it, so you can always get the same benefit as Remodel.Yeah, for some reason I thought you only get the 2 coin tokens on buy. :/
I also do not like the idea, but it is not like this that is a new thing in Dominion. Familiar and Young Witch can lead to similar situations. Even worse, being lucky with those two directly leads to your opponent being less likely to buy his next Familiar/have his bane in hand when he needs too. Being able to start a Torturer chain faster than your opponent due to simple drawing luck leads to him being less likely to set of his. Hitting a Silver early on a Knight-dependend board is devastating and also leads to your opponent being less likely to catch up on the Knight split. Similar situations can occur with Minion (although to a far lesser extent). A 3E 1C chapel hand can easily be the win on some boards, even for pretty bad players. Mint/FG and Chapel/Witch also often lead to games that are over due to simple luck. Tournament, cough.Why does everyone argue that double Treasure Maps leads to a 30% win chance? Even if Treasure Map said "When this collides with another Treasure Map, you instantly win unless your opponent reveals two Treasure Maps from his hand." it wasn't even close to 30% win chance. It might be around 30% win chance for the first player when Treasure Map said "When you buy a copy of this, no other player (except you) can gain or buy any copies of this anymore", but even those 30% are pretty far fetched.
Why stipulate that they can't buy Treasure Map?
Anyhow, it looks like your argument is that everyone can grab Treasure Map. I think that's rather the problem. Many players, particularly skilled players who have invested lots of time studying strategy, don't like the idea of everyone rolling some early dice to determine who ends up with four Golds versus who holds onto two dead cards.
Slager!You want to Remodel more than one Curse with Pawn on the board and there is no other way to gain Coin Tokens. You want to remodel more than one Gold into Provinces and the three other players left you only one Butcher. You want to remodel Silvers on a Duke board but you don't want to spend too many 5s on Butchers (if any).
Find edge cases whereUpdateRemodel is better.
@content:I personally think I should have picked up a Nomad Camp with my starting 4.
The IGG-Duchy-Duke game (#5): I don't like the Caravan here in the first shuffle (and wouldn't have liked it later either). In the beginning, there is Oracle, which is probably better both instantly and more so in the long run if you plan to go slogging. In T3, given you don't have any other terminal and don't plan to buy some there would be also Nomad Camp which is probably marginally better than Silver, mostly because you can play it next turn already and don't need to wait for the reshuffle, and could help at some lucky $7 with Duchy/Estate.
