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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 3 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 15, 2012, 01:07:44 pm »

Actually, I don't think timchen would have been an "obvious" lynch target for today. Sure,  there would be some suspicion because he was pushing the wagon so hard, but it seemed like the general consensus was that he was playing so crazy that he MUST be town.

As far as lynching me goes, I get why you guys think I'm an obvious lynch target, but keep in mind that we're in lylo, so if/when you lynch me and I flip town (which I will), we lose.


As a side note, I won't be able to get to a computer for most of Friday and Saturday because I'll be moving.

Who do you suspect? 5 of us, 2 of us mafia.

Btw, everytime manda posts, I am more and more convinced she is scum.

I'm at work right now, but I'll post a scumminess--townieness assessment as soon as I get home.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 3 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 15, 2012, 12:22:45 pm »

Actually, I don't think timchen would have been an "obvious" lynch target for today. Sure,  there would be some suspicion because he was pushing the wagon so hard, but it seemed like the general consensus was that he was playing so crazy that he MUST be town.

As far as lynching me goes, I get why you guys think I'm an obvious lynch target, but keep in mind that we're in lylo, so if/when you lynch me and I flip town (which I will), we lose.


As a side note, I won't be able to get to a computer for most of Friday and Saturday because I'll be moving.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 11, 2012, 10:23:33 pm »

Even though I think a Galz lynch is probably the only way out of today, I really hate the idea of lynching someone I think is town. I'm tempted to say we should wait until a little bit closer to the deadline, but I'm not sure if much else can happen between now and then other then rehashing of the same discussion. If nothing else gets accomplished between now and then, I'll vote Galz tomorrow night.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 11, 2012, 03:15:58 pm »

The whole tim/galz conflict thing was craaaazy, but since it's essentially all that has happened d2, I don't think we'll learn much of anything from wagons, last words of the dead, etc., unless we lynch one of them. If you feel like you need to lynch me afterwards you can, obviously, but that will be the end of the game. I'm definitely, DEFINITELY town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 11, 2012, 03:14:15 pm »

manda, you think timchen and galzria are both "almost definitely" town? because I know I'm town, so if you are town and correct about those two, that only leaves shark_bait, PPS and Young Nick, two of them three have to be mafia then?

I'm pretty sure timchen and galz are both town. I'll be surprised if one of them flips scum. You "know" you're town but I can't be certain. By your reasoning, yes, two out of those three have to be mafia. From where I stand, 2 out of sharky, pps, young nick, and you have to be scum. It's a bit better odds.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 11, 2012, 11:29:17 am »

If it comes down to it and we need to lynch, I could be convinced to vote Galz. I still think he's town, but I don't know that we're going to get anywhere if we don't lynch eiiiither him or timchen and Galz seems more likely.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 09, 2012, 09:24:08 pm »

My head is really spinning from all of this game day. The only thing I can come up with is that Galz and Timchen have both been playing so over-the-top that they MUST both be town. Scum isn't going to bring itself to L-1, and scum isn't going to promise town a vote. So, we should look elsewhere.

As far as defending myself, I've been trying to avoid doing that because the way I see it, town doesn't really need to defend itself. None of the accusations made against me are false (that I haven't been posting much and that I haven't taken any firm position on anyone), but I'm certainly not scum. I haven't posted much because I have RL commitments (getting ready to move, for one) that take up most of my time. I try to keep up with the reading, but I can't post all the time. I suppose that could be considered lurking, but it's definitely not a scumplay. I underestimated how much time the game was going to take, I suppose. As far as taking a strong position is concerned, like I've said before, I'm not going to take a strong position if I'm not certain of it, and at this point I'm definitely not certain of anything, except that I'm fairly sure Galz and timchen are both town, like I said before.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 09, 2012, 06:08:52 pm »

I'm here. Gonna spend a while reading everything, eat dinner, and then post.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 09, 2012, 11:54:59 am »

Is that L-1?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 09, 2012, 11:53:24 am »

Just checking in... I'm about to head to work, so I'll be reading but not posting until about 6 forum time.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 08, 2012, 04:17:17 pm »

Wow, go to work and everyone tries to kill you XD

Okay but in all seriousness, all this business with timchen has me so utterly confused. Every explanation timchen has put forward for his behavior just seems to ridiculous to me. He says it's a desperate play to get us to lynch Galz so that his vote goes back to normal, but there's no way of knowing that's going to work. If we weren't so close to lylo, I'd advocate for a policy lynch, but as it is... I don't know what to do. It's such crazy play that it makes me think that either timchen is town or they're both scum. I really doubt scum would ever promise town a vote, and if he is scum he can't abandon the crazy if Galz hits his scumbuddy or everyone wil be crazy suspicious of him. I guess it could be a really insane coordinated scum move but it still seems way too ridiculous...

What do you guys think is the possibility of one of the two of them being our cop?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 07, 2012, 11:45:33 pm »

I just.... what the hell?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 07, 2012, 07:53:28 pm »

Okay. Wow. There's sooooo much here. Here we go.

First of all

Hi Young_Nick, so do you think Galz's case on me has some merit? From the post you wrote above the answer seems to be yes...

You really think that's what his post is saying? Because he specifically says he sees Galzira as MORE scummy than you... either I'm totally reading that wrong, or you really are losing it.

Regarding the timchen/Galzira conflict, the more I read it, the more tim just seems way too crazy to be mafia. Is that a clever mafia play? Maybe. Maybe not. However, if tim isn't scum then I think he's playing town terribly. The notorious "fakeclaim" plus his posts about "not investigating Galzira" that make it sound like he's claiming to be the town cop and then just plain going crazy don't do anything except make him look like scum.

Galz still seems like town to me, and as I was reading I really thought tim was probably scum, but now he just seem SO CRAZY that I don't know. I'm gonna be really peeved if they're both town, and the mafia are just loving this right now.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 07, 2012, 07:14:40 pm »

Okay, I'm on my computer now. I'll read the last few pages and then post.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 07, 2012, 04:20:58 pm »

Phone lurking, so I can't really post much of anything. I'll read over everything on the bigger screen and post when I get home. So a couple of hours, maybe.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 06, 2012, 09:30:50 pm »

Galz, you seem like town to me still, but refusing to discuss things is not helping your case at all. If you were in imminent danger of a lynch, your strategy of "not posting to not clutter up what I've said so people can follow what I've said" might make sense. At this point, it just keeps real discussion from happening.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 06, 2012, 09:27:41 pm »

@manda: Actually, it seems I cannot find your original case against eevee, except based on some sort of overall feeling... If you have something more specific, do you mind pointing it out where it is?

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I should have said "stated my READ on eevee several times." I have stated a case bit of a case against him, though. See post #881. His repeated insistence that he cannot be mafia because he argued so vehemently to save Frisk, who turned up town, is ridiculous.

PPS, I understand your suspicion of me, but I think it's just because we have very different playstyles. I'm really reluctant to say I'm 100% sure about something unless I absolutely am, which I'm not. There is so much WIFOM involved that I can't be totally sure any one person (other than myself, obviously) is town/mafia, and I'm not going to claim to be sure if I'm not.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 06, 2012, 01:30:27 am »

Okay so here are my thoughts on the Galz-timchen conflict.

I'm not "100% sure" like Galz, but I do think that timchen and Eevee are the scummiest players here. I've stated my case against Eevee several times. I still think that timchen holding back his argument for why Eevee is town is anti-town behavior and reads pretty scummy to me. If you don't want to state your case until you get more confirmation, that's one thing. But to say you have a case and then not share it doesn't help anyone.

With regards to timchen's argument that Galzira and Eevee were arguing too much to be a scumpair, this doesn't seem to hold a whole lot of water to me. It would be easy enough for them to agree to argue so as to not seem like a pair. The mafia obviously don't want to seem like a team. Eevee wasn't in too much danger of a lynch, so IF GALZ WAS SCUM, he could easily point out some things that make Eevee seem scummy without worrying about losing his scumbuddy. I'm not saying I think Galz is scum, just that the argument that Eevee can't be scum based on his interactions with Galz is faulty. 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 06, 2012, 01:11:44 am »

On an entirely separate issue: Galz, how did you quote me several pages ago with my name and time stamp on it? If I hit reply on this page I cannot find the post more than a page ago.

You can click the quote button in the top right of each post.

I know, but how do I hit that button for a post pages ago?

Also, would you like to come in and comment between me and Galzria?

The only way I know how to do it (there might be an easier way) is to right click the quote button and open it in a new tab, and then copy/paste the quote into the tab I have open where I'm writing the post.

Reading and gathering my thoughts. Post coming shortly.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 06, 2012, 12:58:40 am »

On an entirely separate issue: Galz, how did you quote me several pages ago with my name and time stamp on it? If I hit reply on this page I cannot find the post more than a page ago.

You can click the quote button in the top right of each post.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 05, 2012, 06:16:44 pm »

I'm gonna be out for several hours doing family stuff. I'll keep up from my phone and maybe post some short stuff if I get a chance.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 05, 2012, 06:15:37 pm »

Eevee keeps restating the fact that all of D1 he was "just trying to save a townie," so he's not sure why there's any suspicion on him. While it's true that he pushed to save Frisk all day, how do we know that he didn't do that just so he could point to it D2 to show how pro-town he is? As others have stated, it was pretty clear to me that someone was going to hammer. Eevee didn't need to jump on the wagon when others were pushing it and chances of a no-lynch were slim.

That being said, I would like to hear timchen's secret reasoning before I settle on Eevee for a vote.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 05, 2012, 06:10:47 pm »

Unvote for now just in case eevee is right on target and a quick hammer is possible.

Humm... you had your vote on Galzria and it was the only vote on him?

Pretty sure Timchen's vote was on me...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 05, 2012, 06:09:34 pm »

Finally back online and there's a lot of new stuff, so I'll try to respond to everything, but probably in several shorter posts rather than one long one.

Everyone, did you think yesterday was going to end in a nolynch or did you think someone was going to hammer in the end? Especially the people who were online when the actual hammer dropped (not too long before the deadline I think?).

I was pretty certain someone was going to hammer in the end. To my knowledge, we haven't had a D1 no-lynch on f.ds so far, and I really doubted we'd start with this game, to be honest. I don't like the idea of a D1 no-lynch, because it gives the mafia a headstart without providing the town with a whole lot of information. I wasn't online when the hammer dropped, but I was back online before the deadline and I would have hammered if I needed to.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia VII: The Annual Nose-Stealing Competition (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)

« on: August 04, 2012, 02:26:13 pm »

Even if it is what he says it is, it still seems to me to be, at best, really bad town play. It's one thing to have a hunch but not say anything until you get more evidence. It's another thing ENTIRELY to SAY you "know" something but then just leave it hanging like that with no explanation. All it does is cause confusion. And stated like that it OBVIOUSLY sounds like a soft claim. There's no way he wouldn't have seen that when he was posting it.