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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Male and female cards (again)

« on: November 09, 2017, 02:18:53 pm »

Cards that give out Ruins are specifically a Looter type as shown on the bottom of the card. This signifies somebody or a group raiding a village or siponing resources and leaving (almost) nothing left.

So are Witches about theme or about mechanics now? And since when are Death Karts related to looting? The type has a mechanical function, which is placing Ruin cards in the supply, and that's that. Cultist and Torturer are both variants of base's Witch, being stronger in some respect and worse in others. Witch has more in common with Torturer than with e.g. Swamp Hag. Donald X himself described Torturer as "a Witch with a bane of two cards you don't want".

The witch cards are not a type, but more of a theme, which is entirely subjective, unlike the Looters. For instance, the Looter type is significant with Courtier, but not any "Witch" cards apart from their Attack-Action-etc types.

I'm well aware of this and you'll find I never stated Looters in general were related to Witches. You're arguing against a strawman here.

Again, are Witches about a mechanic or about a theme? Should Enchantress be none because there's no junking, or Mountebank because it's not a female magic user? I'm arguing from the mechanical side, and you're free to look at it thematically only, but maybe stay consistent?

You're clearly a more serious person than I am. You're right about everything, you win.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Male and female cards (again)

« on: November 09, 2017, 08:14:27 am »

I would consider both Cultist and Torturer to be Witch variants, although obviously Cultist is a variant because it gives out Ruins instead of Curses. Enchantress has a Witch-like theme and does not give out Curses, but is female and an attack.

Cards that give out Ruins are specifically a Looter type as shown on the bottom of the card. This signifies somebody or a group raiding a village or siphoning resources and leaving (almost) nothing left. The witch cards are not a type, but more of a theme, which is entirely subjective, unlike the Looters. For instance, the Looter type is significant with Courtier, but not any "Witch" cards apart from their Attack-Action-etc types.

I wouldn't count Torturer to be a Witch card since it is possible to play a whole game being tortured without gaining a curse. It is entirely up to the poor tortured soul whether a curse is gained or not. Not so with something like Mountebank or Young Witch, which (ha) only fail to give you curses due to some condition of your current hand, but the same can be said for any other Witch when attacked players hold a Moat.

I thought about including Enchantress as a Witch card as she seems to fit the general theme. However, she doesn't give out curses, so she is just an attack who happens to be female, like Warrior or Dame Josephine. Again, this is entirely subjective 

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Male and female cards (again)

« on: November 08, 2017, 09:42:45 am »

No comment on the general gender issue, I feel the same way about all hrethgir.

I will note that all the "Witch" cards (Witch, Sea Hag, Young Witch, Soothsayer, Swamp Hag) are female, with the exception of Familiar, which appears to be male, and Mountebank. I'm counting a "Witch" card to be one that explicitly has the mechanic of giving other players curses and is an attack, disagree if you wish.

That said, I'm surprised that a "Warlock" hasn't made it into Dominion yet. I'd like to see something like that, perhaps in conjunction with some female witch apprentices maybe.