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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: Creating Dominion

« on: April 19, 2016, 09:45:23 pm »

You're wasting time

Basically then all feedback is wasting time? Why should feedback only be positive? I've given more positive than negative feedback overall.
But sure, I didn't have to explain in such a long manner. I have a bad habit of writing TL;DR's anyway.

But yea, again: I am truly sorry if I sounded cynical and all. It's just that I absolutely LOVE Dominion and I'm kind of saddened about the monthly fee solution.
I don't think I can sway anyone's opinion into any direction.

So basically if there's something positive to be said: I'd be willing to pay a great deal of money if they ever decide to get an alternative payment solution on top of the subscription model.
Something similar to the old model. Example given: 1000 subscribers vs 1000 subs and some that would pay a one-time fee. I'd calculate that it's more money for the company, really. Especially if the subscription model has a very tempting pricepoint.

We once had this discussion about copyrights and piracy:
Piracy doesn't really decrease the sales figures or revenue. How so?
If a person wouldn't pay a cent for something, it doesn't really make them lose money since the person would've never paid for it anyway.
HOWEVER... if he became a fan of a product (like music for example), he could possibly start giving out some dough. I know this for a fact, actually.

That was a little bit of off-topicing, but what I'm saying is that it's all about principles for some people. It's not the amount of money that bothers some people. And as I totally WANT to be a customer, that's the only reason why I beg them to reconsider. It's almost as if a company would only allow the use of a credit card, but I'd be greatly against credit cards. They'd just lose money even if I'd be willing to pay them So if they ended up accepting bank cards as well, they'd get even more revenue.

Yet again a TL;DR. Anyway, no ill-intentions on my behalf

Anyway I'll try not to comment again since I feel like people will get pissed off or something :/
But I still wish success for the new implementation, whatever route it might take.

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: Creating Dominion

« on: April 19, 2016, 08:46:53 pm »

I just knew it people couldn't differentiate necessities/essential stuff like life expenses with stuff like entertainment.

Others are nearly mandatory or mandatory and others are voluntary. It's either that people try to just find loopholes in other people's posts or they just like acting dumb and act as if they wouldn't understand the point given.

It's almost as if someone would be losing an argument and starts pointing out typos in the other person's posts or something.

You know very well what I mean so don't attempt to seem as if you don't.

But since people like to act ignorant, I'll list them down for you so there's no more loopholes to f*ck:
Electricity, warmth, rent, loans (study, house & car), phone bill, internet bill, insurances (appartment/house etc.), public transport and so forth.
Those are mandatory or nearly mandatory and very much unlike entertainment subscription services (games, music, videos (tv series, movies) and so on).

If someone finds one thing I forgot to mention: Just bravo. I'll tap you on the head for it. I hope this is enough clarification.

I didn't want to sound that harsh, but people just leave me no choice when they start agitating If you know what the other person is talking about, don't act otherwise. And if you know he forgot to mention a thing he surely would've anyways: you can just use your brains to figure out whether or not he left the thing out on purpose or not.

And I really don't appreciate sarcasm unless it's between me and a close friend of mine.

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: Creating Dominion

« on: April 19, 2016, 07:07:50 pm »

I kind of realized I'd get that comment from someone. If I could skip them, sure, I would.
I mean I wouldn't pay monthly for them. I'd just pay a huge static amount. Quite frankly tho', that isn't possible.
And I actually got my study loans as one huge static amount since I was annoyed by the idea of a steadily growing loan on my bank account.
Ja enpä mä sitä lainaa ois ottanut ellei ois pakko ollut... mutta paskemmaks kokoajan menossa systeemi, Awaclus (sry, I just know he's Finnish too so...).

Also, I would never buy any product with part payments. Just no... Even if I'd have bad financial situation and I'd need a new phone, I'd just pay the one time price for a new phone and I'd eat noodles for the sake of it. Just as long as the tap isn't leaking water all the time if you know what I mean.

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: Creating Dominion

« on: April 19, 2016, 06:22:58 pm »

Sure, it would be great if I never had to pay to play Dominion Online. That isn't reality.

Actually, it is reality. I play a ton of different online games.
I played StarCraft I for roughly 6-8 years. Same with WarCraft III. Around 6-8 years. I've also played DOTA2 ever since 2012 very much: Something like 3100 hours as of now.
Have I paid monthly subscription fees? No. Have I spent money on DOTA2? Yes, micro-transactions. Is it one of my most played games? Yes. Would I ever pay monthly subscription fees? NO. Not even one cent. I dislike the idea of a steady money stream leaking from my bank account as if it were bleeding.

That's the reason I'll never get Spotify, I'll never get Netflix and I'll never get WoW.
I'm so glad at this point that I never bought any online expansions for Dominion.
I own all of the physical expansions and most of the promos and I guess I'll be sticking to that. I would've paid for the online version as a static sum, something like 50% of the cost of the physical game. That's plentiful since most of the best games I've ever played for years have been from 0€ to 15€.

I calculated how much money I've put into Dominion. It's roughly 300 euros. That's more than I've EVER paid for any game franchise. Ever. It's a very very steep price and I don't really care about the card/euro ratio. I care only about the end sum. I would've paid around 150€ for the COMPLETE online implementation and that, in my eyes, would've been a really really steep price also that wouldn't be clear at all if I'd be willing to pay that much.

Take for example "Star Realms". I bought the FULL GAME for 5€ on Steam. That price also included the same stuff available on Android.
What did I pay for the complete online experience for the rest of the products lifecycle? 5€. That's it.

A game might be good as hell and Dominion is one of the best games ever, but why would I ever pay almost the same amount as I pay for Star Realms once... every month?
I wouldn't. No matter if it was like the best game on the planet.

I really hope I didn't upset anyone and I truly wish the best of luck for RGG, DXV and the new developers of Dominion Offline/Online.
I'm sure your product will get lots of revenue based on the comments I've read here. I'm sorry I didn't give that positive feedback people would only like to read. I'm sorry my feedback wasn't all rainbows and flowers. I will continue to love Dominion and I praise Donald X. Vaccarino for one of the greatest physical card games ever, but I'll have to jump out of the sled at this point. I just can't sacrifice my principles...

I will continue to purchase future physical editions of Dominion as they're so great and it's always a one time fee.