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I'm trying to do the stats for this game, looks to me like no MVP was announced? Could someone please confirm MVP for this game?

I did not follow the game that close after I died, but I believe MVP should go to scott_pilgrim for that last claim that got XP lynched.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 04:04:32 pm »
Yeah...I definitely could remove the button from the game, but...

Anyone pushing at the time would have died.

The goal was to be the only player left alive, thereby winning for all town.

I was not even close to confident yet that it was going to work, and the game ended without us getting to further discuss it.

Roleblocking wasn't the worst thing ever, as at least no one would have died.

I actually considered that this might happen. I'm not sure if I would have pushed it or not. Not that it would have mattered for anyone except myself though.

You were the man in black, then?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:48:34 pm »
So there was a traitor after all.
I had thought about the possibility, but after the flavor when Teproc died I thought two scumteams of 3 + the man in black was more likely.

Yep, I knew your guy's flavor names but not who you were (so I knew reinoe when he claimed).

So you could be recruited?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:43:17 pm »
Yeah...I definitely could remove the button from the game, but...

Anyone pushing at the time would have died.

The goal was to be the only player left alive, thereby winning for all town.

I was not even close to confident yet that it was going to work, and the game ended without us getting to further discuss it.

Roleblocking wasn't the worst thing ever, as at least no one would have died.

Awesome... simply Awesome.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:40:13 pm »
So there was a traitor after all.
I had thought about the possibility, but after the flavor when Teproc died I thought two scumteams of 3 + the man in black was more likely.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:29:51 pm »
Truly petty and terrible.

Scum players, would you have pushed the button for the upgrades?
I was planning having you roleblocked...

Never quite trusted what you said about the upgrade part. Were you telling the truth?

Sort of...

I was town though.  It was to be my greatest triumph ever.  Was going to win (or lose) the game single-handedly.

I'm sure Faust was shaking his head at me.
Sort of?
So there was a sectret trap in there?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:24:44 pm »
Just curious, was he scum?
Reinoe? yes. And he just sent the scum QT to all players by PM.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:23:12 pm »
Truly petty and terrible.

Scum players, would you have pushed the button for the upgrades?
I was planning having you roleblocked...

Never quite trusted what you said about the upgrade part. Were you telling the truth?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 02:45:58 pm »
If we did a reboot, then I would possibly be going into the game with some problematic information regarding the setup.

Yes, If we just did a reboot and rerolled the roles, we would be able to solve the game with a massclaim D1. Thats how closed setups work. It might be possible to construct a new setup mostly  built on this, though, but that would take time.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 02:28:46 pm »
I really loved the setup and the flavor. Too bad it had to end like this.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Night 1
« on: January 14, 2015, 08:24:48 am »
I'm happy with how many roles I see from my Pokemon game in recent setups.

I also want to hear the plan.
Just found this post.

XP, what roles do you see in this game that are similar to roles in your pokemon game?
Reino being Jack of all trades? Your own role?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 14, 2015, 06:55:27 am »
Some more question to Hydrad

3) Do you have status about the plan to have somebody targeting you at night? Do we need to target you on future nights?
4) Is it so that having everyone pushing the button (and nobody tareting you) would lead to bad stuff (if Jacob is in control of the Island)? 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 14, 2015, 06:43:45 am »
Vote: Hydrad

I re-read Hydrad and I have a couple of questions (I don't know anything about the flavor and that's mostly why I'm asking).

1) Can we assume that Hydrad is telling the truth about not knowing the flavor?
2) If yes, is his claim something that would be difficult to fake flavor-wise?

If the answer to at least one of these questions is no, then I like a Hydrad lynch today.

1) I believe Hydrad when he says that he does not know the flavor.
2) No idea.

The problem here is that if Hydrad is scum, he does not need to know the flavor himself in order to fakeclaim. He could have been prepped by a scummate who does.


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 14, 2015, 04:41:24 am »
I have no opinion about the BA thing. I think we should do a vote or something. Well, that conflicts with me having no opinion about it, doesn't it? I'd guess I'd vote for not doing it if I had to decide.

We are doing a vote.
If you are for executing the plan today, you vote for Beyond Awesome.
If you are against, you vote for someone else.
If you cannot push the button or otherwise will not comply with the plan even if the majority goes for it, you say so.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 13, 2015, 05:50:39 pm »
If ash were a rolecop, this would be a great way to get a free mislynch in without getting suspicion.

But he probably isn't - that's too boring a role for this setup.

Eh, that's far-fetched.  And he wouldn't be given details of BA's role, just the name of it.  It could be indicative, but I doubt it would explain enough.  Plus, just too elaborate.
Plus Teproc was a role cop. There are limits for how many role cops there are room for in the setup.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 13, 2015, 05:45:48 pm »
Alright.. I can't say lynching someone that's pretty likely town sounds like worthwhile payment to do this.. what do you think?
I think the plan is worth it for us if it works, but we are almost certainly worse off if it doesn't.
The strictly best thing to do is probably to forget the plan and our roles and focus on scumhunting. There is less risk to that.
On the other hand, this is a role madness game. And here we have a plan to unlock even more role madness into the game. I really like what I have seen of the setup and the flavor so far. And I think it is hard to let go of an oppurtunity to explore the setup further.

Because of that I am in for the plan.
vote: Beyond Awesome
Maybe not the best or safest choice, but certainly the most fun one.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 13, 2015, 10:00:11 am »
Okay. We can't do this tonight though. I'm Charlie, and yes, I'm town. However, as a night action, I must always protect Claire which means I am never allowed to press the button.

However, I'm allowed to perform an action tonight that kills me and does something. If town wants to go along with this, I'm fine, but you guys would have to hold off a night before going through with Ash's plan since I'm unable to push the button.

Three questions.

- Do you know who Claire is?
I am looking for a yes or no, not a name.

- Can you give us a indication of how powerful or beneficial the effect is that would happend if you kill yourself?

- Do you think Clair is town? I mean, why would you ever opt for suiside instead of protecting town. (And probably important town as well if she has a private bodyguard). I am trying to think setup design here.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 12, 2015, 06:23:54 pm »
Further, I appreciate all the support.  But you need to hear the rest of it (especially the side effects).

So, when I trigger the failsafe, there are a few things that can happen, depending on who pushed the button that night.

(I'm paraphrasing here, per rules)

If all the players of a faction press the button, all the players of that faction will have their roles upgraded.

There's more -- but, well, I think it's better to discuss this piecemeal.  I have my own thoughts, by the way.

Does you yourself count as pressing the button if you use the fail-safe?
If not, what about your faction?

Town (my faction) will get the upgrade as long as all town players press the button on the night I trigger the failsafe.  There's an "if" clause included with the fail-safe action, I think because of the odd interaction of the fail-safe with the button rules.
Good.
I realized that if ash is speaking the truth about powering up factions, he has to be town.
If he had this power as scum, he could and would power his own faction without telling the rest.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 12, 2015, 05:12:23 pm »
Further, I appreciate all the support.  But you need to hear the rest of it (especially the side effects).

So, when I trigger the failsafe, there are a few things that can happen, depending on who pushed the button that night.

(I'm paraphrasing here, per rules)

If all the players of a faction press the button, all the players of that faction will have their roles upgraded.

There's more -- but, well, I think it's better to discuss this piecemeal.  I have my own thoughts, by the way.

Does you yourself count as pressing the button if you use the fail-safe?
If not, what about your faction?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Night 1
« on: January 12, 2015, 09:37:02 am »
Does anyone want to claim what the ashes are?

vote: ADK to see IG the vote goes through.
You mean these ashes?
Ashes have been spread! On one side of the ashes, there are A Drowned Kernel, 2.71828..., Robz888, chairs, silverspawn, Beyond Awesome, Teproc, while the rest remain on the opposite side.

It sounds to me like the ashes are tied to some (secret?) game mechanic. Maybe there is a role that can only target half the population.

The people listed are those who was not on the lynch wagon. Whether the list is made the same way all days, or if it even will be made at all later days is an open question. Maybe it is just a fancy way to state the final lynch wagon.
We will know more after D2.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Night 1
« on: January 12, 2015, 08:47:33 am »
And now, for the plan.

I am Desmond Hume.

As Robz can confirm (because flavor), I have a power related to the button.  It's basically huge.  Game changing.

Every single player needs to press the button tonight.


Thing is, scum does have incentive, once I tell everyone what happens.  And that's why I think actually town will be against the plan more than scum.  But I'm going to argue it is absolutely worth it.

I just like building suspense with the staggered reveal.
I've thought about this since getting my PM, actually, as I wasn't sure how to make this work.  I don't know if I'm going against faust's design (he might have meant this for a late game day), but I'm looking to get the most out of this power that he's given me.

I will say, there is significant risk to this whole thing.
I need to know one thing. Does every player have to push the button? If even a single player does not push the button does that mean the plan won't work?

Depends on who doesn't push the button.  My plan involves everyone pushing the button.  There are other ways to use my power, but they would be impossible to pull off.  Having everyone, including all scum, do something, seems impossible enough.
Anyway, here's the rest of it:

I have the key to the fail-safe.  Tonight, I can trigger it, causing some purple-sky-style things to happen.

Triggering the fail-safe causes a discharge.  There are side effects, depending on who pressed the button.

Also, if I trigger the fail-safe, the button is no longer in play.

A plan that involves all of town to forgo their night actions, that carries a significant risk,  that town will be more against than scum and that might just fail... I don't like it.
It would be sweet if the button was was removed from the game, though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 09, 2015, 09:20:05 am »
Oh, and about the button, I think we should push it.

Can we have some volunteers. I think more than one player can push it because scum can easily say they will push it and end up not pushing it and claim they forgot or something.

We shold not have any volunteers.
That would be soft-claiming passive/weak role and would only help scum finding the strong roles (who does not volunteer)
Better to leave it to everybody to decide for themselves. Somebody will most likely push the button.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 08, 2015, 06:25:53 pm »
Reads list:

1. Teproc - Solid play. He is there where something happends and generally makes sense when he is speaking. I hope he is town.
2. Hydrad. - Has been a background player so far.  Nothing he has said so far gives me pointes about his allignment. Null read.
3. XerxesPraelor - Also a background player.
4. Witherweaver- Have been active. I have not gotten much of a read on him, but I would not lynch him.
5. silverspawn - Null-read.
6. Beyond Awesome - Has little content. I hope to see more of him in the coming days
7. Ashersky - Usual ashersky-play with his plans. I want to hear what he has to say about them D2. Will not lynch today.
8. Ichimaru Gin - concerned about his own position, and gets defenive when cases are made of him. I undreastans that is usual for him. Active poster. slight town read
9. Xeiron - Town
10. chairs - Too little content
11. Awaclus - Has been in the background.
12. 2.71828... - Null-read
13. xxpittip - Too little content.
14. Twistedarcher/Robz - Has gotten much focus because of reinoe's case. I think he has reacted towny.
15. A Drowned Kernel - Have been active. Slight town read.
16. Reinoe - I do not how to read this guy. He has a different playstyle than the rest. I am fine with lynching him.

So this is mostly a bunch of null-reads with some townier reads. The lack of scumreads makes me more suscpicious those with little content and the ones who stays more in the background.

Willing to lynch: Hydrad, XP, silverspawn, BA, chairs, Awaclus, e, xxpittip, reinoe.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 08, 2015, 05:55:44 pm »
Is reinoe at L-1 or close by?

I've been trying to keep track but i'm not really sure where we are at right now. This many people is hard to keep track of.

Just counted.
7 votes = L-1

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 08, 2015, 03:52:21 pm »
I am not sure how to read Reinoe, but I think he is the best lynch today.
I'll join in on:
vote: reinoe

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