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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 18, 2024, 02:10:40 pm »
I think it takes a different kind of person to exaggerate results than to fake them, though.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 18, 2024, 10:15:55 am »
Did you guys know that in 1968 papers were not required to publish experimental data? You could just describe your experiments and your conclusions and then hit publish. That paper single-handedly made me 3x as appreciative of modern norms of publishing
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 18, 2024, 10:14:38 am »IT'S ALMOST LIKE ACADEMIA ISN'T VERY GOOD AT DETERMINING THE MOST VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE SAME IS HAPPENING WITH EM THEORIES OF CONSCIOUSNESS I MEAN IDK BUT JUST SAYING
And on the other side of the equation, the 1968 paper on Split Brain patients by S.W. Sperry got the nobel prize despite as far as I can tell massively stretching the experimental results and setting the entire field into the wrong direction, thus creating a mess that academia in 2020 still hasn't fully cleaned up
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 18, 2024, 10:08:03 am »Q as in genderqueer is not more of a container term than the B.
I don't buy that. Bisexual is pretty staight-forward, whereas queer I think most people just consider a container, even if there's some asterisks
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 18, 2024, 10:07:08 am »
Man I'm just realizing that the paper on Function Decision Theory https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.05060 is only published on arxiv. That is absolutely ridiculous; whatever you think about Miri and Eliezer, the FDT paper is a major contribution to game theory; it should be a massive deal in the field. I think even the anti-Miri people, unless they're very stupid, acknowledge it for this paper.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE ACADEMIA ISN'T VERY GOOD AT DETERMINING THE MOST VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE SAME IS HAPPENING WITH EM THEORIES OF CONSCIOUSNESS I MEAN IDK BUT JUST SAYING
IT'S ALMOST LIKE ACADEMIA ISN'T VERY GOOD AT DETERMINING THE MOST VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE SAME IS HAPPENING WITH EM THEORIES OF CONSCIOUSNESS I MEAN IDK BUT JUST SAYING
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 18, 2024, 06:06:54 am »What makes the Q special though, other than being a more recent and less established addition? "Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, genderqueer plus all the other people who are in this vague category" is not inherently less sensible than the same description without the genderqueer.
Because even if Q is not a perfect container term, it's still mostly a container term, and hence made redundant by the +, no? I mean, sure everything is technically made redundant by + as you point out, but there's more of a reason to explicitly name specific groups than approximate container terms.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 17, 2024, 05:14:46 pm »
Shelling 
Although ordinarily I'd say the Shelling point is the first item of the list.
Although ordinarily I'd say the Shelling point is the first item of the list.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 17, 2024, 10:59:18 am »Speaking of things that bother me, it shouldn't be LGBTQ+. "Queer" is already a catch-all; either make it LGBTQ or LGBT+
The "Q" doesn't always stand for queer (it sometimes stands for questioning) and "queer" is not exactly a catch-all because
- most of the prominent definitions of "queer" only include people who are not cis and/or not straight and therefore exclude e.g. cishet aros and cishet intersexual people
- in practice, the reclaimed "queer" is often used as a shorthand for genderqueer
- it is not entirely uncontroversial that the word has been successfully reclaimed, so the convention is that you shouldn't call other people queer unless they describe themselves as queer
It is redundant with the +, but so are all the other letters in the acronym.
mhh I suppose. I think then the obvious solution is to just say LGBT+ and leave the Q out of it. Definitely don't wanna exclude aroace people
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 17, 2024, 08:57:12 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwtfmpeedpA
I don't like everything about this song/album, but the last 10 minute are really cool. Great finale, fake ending, meta-commentary, and then real (and musically awesome!) ending after it
I don't like everything about this song/album, but the last 10 minute are really cool. Great finale, fake ending, meta-commentary, and then real (and musically awesome!) ending after it
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 17, 2024, 08:54:10 am »
Actually this bothers me a little -- why choose "whoohoo!" over the far superior spelling of "wohoo!!"? The second "ooh" is clearly longer than the first, and a second ! is appropriate here.
Speaking of things that bother me, it shouldn't be LGBTQ+. "Queer" is already a catch-all; either make it LGBTQ or LGBT+
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 16, 2024, 07:12:55 pm »
Paul Christiano named as US AI Safety Institute Head of AI Safety
That's... pretty great, actually. Paul Christiano is about the best person you could want in there. Eliezer, being his humble self, has previously described him as the only person in the world who disagrees with him despite a technical understanding of the problem.
Even more credit to Biden for his help in making this happen.
That's... pretty great, actually. Paul Christiano is about the best person you could want in there. Eliezer, being his humble self, has previously described him as the only person in the world who disagrees with him despite a technical understanding of the problem.
Even more credit to Biden for his help in making this happen.
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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #216: Blue Dogs
« on: April 16, 2024, 09:57:04 am »
wait I thought segura is the same person as tristan? I distinctly remember someone saying this.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 15, 2024, 07:12:41 pm »
The Quiet Girl (2022)
A good movie! Say it isn't so! I wasn't sure those things still existed.
This is one of the most straight-forward stories imaginable; a girl from a shitty family spends the summer with two relatives that treat her much better... and that's basically it. It's super slow and simple, but I was never bored. Everything feels authentic and well-presented. Some gorgeous shots in there, too. And a bunch of nice details; probably a lot more that I missed. 8/10.
The one thing that super weirded me out is people calling her "pet" in an affectionate way. That so absolutely does not sound appropriate to my ear. But GPT-4 tells me that was normal in 1980 Ireland so who am I to question it.
A good movie! Say it isn't so! I wasn't sure those things still existed.
This is one of the most straight-forward stories imaginable; a girl from a shitty family spends the summer with two relatives that treat her much better... and that's basically it. It's super slow and simple, but I was never bored. Everything feels authentic and well-presented. Some gorgeous shots in there, too. And a bunch of nice details; probably a lot more that I missed. 8/10.
The one thing that super weirded me out is people calling her "pet" in an affectionate way. That so absolutely does not sound appropriate to my ear. But GPT-4 tells me that was normal in 1980 Ireland so who am I to question it.
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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #216: Blue Dogs
« on: April 14, 2024, 06:25:27 pm »This is inspired by Gubump's Granary. Don't @ me if it's not 100% original.
Farm Hound
This triggers on itself. Which is maybe okay but if nothing else will be timely to resolve when you have draw to x
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 14, 2024, 09:42:12 am »
Not super well explained but definitely true. Like you can consciously decide how you group sequential elements of a repeating pattern in your head. This gets more obvious if you have a voice repeating two sounds over and over again like o-a-o-a-o-a-o-a; you can choose between interpreting them as oa-oa-oa or ao-ao-ao-ao. This is also explained by my model of consciousness!
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 14, 2024, 09:37:29 am »
Post by LemonUniverse on the music thing which I'm gonna share before having finished reading it because the undeniable sincerity that bleeds through the way this is written is just so endearing to me and I want to socially reward anyone who uses this style: https://thelostjockey.substack.com/p/obscure-gestalts-in-short-musical
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 13, 2024, 07:04:25 pm »
Ok so YMS had a review of this and it's like "uninteresting story but directing is fantastic"... which yeah I guess, but then he gave it an 8 and that doesn't compute for me at all. I guess if you watch a gazillion movies and really care about the artform, you pay a lot more attention to how information is presented. To me, I mean if the script is good that might matter more, but if the script is bad then competent directing is gonna do very little, even though I think I notice at least some of it. Maybe if the directing was worse it would be a 2 instead.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 13, 2024, 06:51:33 pm »
Srsly how do you go from a 10 straight to a 3? Shouldn't you at least make something sort of good first?
But this is not that unusual, many amazing artists drop off rapidly.
I'm still gonna watch some more of his stuff probably, but eh. I mean I didn't super like Thirst either, but (a) that was before The Handmaiden, and (b) at least that movie was so bizarre that you can't say he did something boring.
But this is not that unusual, many amazing artists drop off rapidly.
I'm still gonna watch some more of his stuff probably, but eh. I mean I didn't super like Thirst either, but (a) that was before The Handmaiden, and (b) at least that movie was so bizarre that you can't say he did something boring.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 13, 2024, 06:48:25 pm »
Well Ray is still making interesting music. At least someone hasn't totally lost it.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 13, 2024, 06:44:02 pm »
If you like view this movie as a piece of abstract art and judge it on its technical merits, it may be quite good. Unfortunately I much prefer stories that feel real.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 13, 2024, 06:40:48 pm »
Decision to Leave (2022)
I'm so disappointed with this one. It's from Park Chan-wook who directed, wrote, and produced The Handmaiden. And I was like, let's not do this attention splintering thing and watch this in one sitting -- then I could about halfway through before it was just too boring.
The Handmaiden had maybe the greatest script of any movie I've ever seen. I don't know how you can write that and then you take six years to write another movie and this is the best you come up with? Come on.
So this is like a romnatic thriller, and the movie really needs you to buy into the romance angle to work because everything is really overdramatic otherwise. Like, it requires an incredibly high buy-in from you for the romance stuff, and it doesn't do anything to deserve it. And even if I did buy into it, I guess that would make it okay, but still nothing special.
Having seen this, I'm now forced to think about his other two films I've seen (Thirst, The Handmaiden) and recognize that they also had romances that did a lot of heavy lifting. But both of those movies have settings that make it much more understandable, and in the Handmaiden there are also several other reasons why I completely bought into it, which still hold up in retrospect. This movie is just about two regular people in regular modern Korea. So like... does Park Chan-wook use this as a plot device in all his movies whether it works or not? Is this the only kind of story he can write? Did he just get lucky that it worked so well before? Or did the Handmaiden only work so well because it was based on a book?
I don't know. But the fact that my main takeaway from this is to make me question how he managed to have written the script for The Handmaiden is not good. Also there were a few weird out of place comedic moments and unnecessary gross moments, both of which don't make sense in what is clearly trying to be a very serious story. And the ending sucked too, it's peak undeserved and overdramatic. Not. Good. 3/10.
I'm so disappointed with this one. It's from Park Chan-wook who directed, wrote, and produced The Handmaiden. And I was like, let's not do this attention splintering thing and watch this in one sitting -- then I could about halfway through before it was just too boring.
The Handmaiden had maybe the greatest script of any movie I've ever seen. I don't know how you can write that and then you take six years to write another movie and this is the best you come up with? Come on.
So this is like a romnatic thriller, and the movie really needs you to buy into the romance angle to work because everything is really overdramatic otherwise. Like, it requires an incredibly high buy-in from you for the romance stuff, and it doesn't do anything to deserve it. And even if I did buy into it, I guess that would make it okay, but still nothing special.
Having seen this, I'm now forced to think about his other two films I've seen (Thirst, The Handmaiden) and recognize that they also had romances that did a lot of heavy lifting. But both of those movies have settings that make it much more understandable, and in the Handmaiden there are also several other reasons why I completely bought into it, which still hold up in retrospect. This movie is just about two regular people in regular modern Korea. So like... does Park Chan-wook use this as a plot device in all his movies whether it works or not? Is this the only kind of story he can write? Did he just get lucky that it worked so well before? Or did the Handmaiden only work so well because it was based on a book?
I don't know. But the fact that my main takeaway from this is to make me question how he managed to have written the script for The Handmaiden is not good. Also there were a few weird out of place comedic moments and unnecessary gross moments, both of which don't make sense in what is clearly trying to be a very serious story. And the ending sucked too, it's peak undeserved and overdramatic. Not. Good. 3/10.
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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #216: Blue Dogs
« on: April 13, 2024, 09:41:16 am »I think this is too easy to trigger. There are so many engines where one component just naturally has two types (anything with fishing village for example, or anything with wharf, or rabble). I feel like this is just a weakly disguised lab, and then there's the Curse thing on top of it.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 11, 2024, 10:20:58 am »
Alright I put maximally low effort into this WDC submission, let's see if it pays off
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: April 11, 2024, 09:54:37 am »
kinda bizarre that you have to do this for like 4 months just to get good data on whether it's even viable