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Title: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Morgrim7 on November 10, 2013, 10:34:50 am
Heres mine:
It was a while ago (on isotropic and before we knew it was going out) and I was playing a pretty standard Governor KC game. I was looking good and thought I had it in the bag when I made the most idiotic decision ever. Seeing as I would be ending the game next turn, my opponent went for a megaturn. He kept trashing his golds for provinces and I kept hitting "none" when offered to trash. AND I HAD A KC IN HAND. My opponent won by a couple points. Never forgotten that even though it was nearly over a year ago.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: mail-mi on November 10, 2013, 10:49:55 am
I had the game in hand. I had something terminal and a Forager and if I played to right, I could win. AND I PLAYED THE TERMINAL FIRST. Ugh. I lost of course.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Awaclus on November 10, 2013, 11:10:54 am
Putting all 30 curses into the supply in a 2-player game.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: A Drowned Kernel on November 10, 2013, 02:08:54 pm
I don't know how stupid this was, but it stung.

I was currently in the lead, but my opponent's engine was pulling ahead. I had one turn where I could win on a three-pile, but I was one buy short. It was only after the game that I realized that I had two counterfeits, and could have played counterfeit-counterfeit to get that last buy I needed.

L'esprit de l'escalier...
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: ftl on November 10, 2013, 03:13:08 pm
I played a Tactician/Treasure Map game where I forgot to buy a second treasure map and kept wondering why my Treasure Maps didn't collide, I would keep drawing only one even on my huge tactician hands.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: sudgy on November 10, 2013, 03:21:02 pm
Thinking that Scheme/Tactitian was a combo (you could have double Tactitian with only one Tactitian!).
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: scott_pilgrim on November 10, 2013, 03:25:07 pm
Man, no one here has made stupid mistakes outside of Dominion?
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: sudgy on November 10, 2013, 03:26:10 pm
Man, no one here has made stupid mistakes outside of Dominion?

My stupidest mistake: Reading this thread title wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: zporiri on November 10, 2013, 03:54:44 pm
On Goko, after I play masquerade and there's nothing I want to trash, I always forget to click the done button and I end up trashing the action card I was about to play :(
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: jonts26 on November 10, 2013, 04:40:28 pm
Grad School.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Kirian on November 10, 2013, 04:57:55 pm
Man, no one here has made stupid mistakes outside of Dominion?

Sure, but do you really want to hear me discuss my first marriage?  No.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Awaclus on November 10, 2013, 05:00:13 pm
Man, no one here has made stupid mistakes outside of Dominion?
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Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Schneau on November 10, 2013, 05:23:00 pm
Man, no one here has made stupid mistakes outside of Dominion?

Sure, but do you really want to hear me discuss my first marriage?  No.

marriagestrategy.com (http://marriagestrategy.com)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Awaclus on November 10, 2013, 05:43:39 pm
marriagestrategy.com (http://marriagestrategy.com)
That site could just have "it depends on the spouse" and nothing else there.  ;D
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Robz888 on November 10, 2013, 06:00:47 pm
IRL Dominion tournament, three total players. My opponent played Tribute, flipping 2 of my Curses! What bad luck for him.

Then it happened again. That's when I realized I had mixed the Curse pile into my discard and reshuffled.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: pingpongsam on November 11, 2013, 09:01:19 am
Grad School.

Pretty much. I wish I could go back and not even bother with college at all. It was the biggest waste of a huge sum of money. What I do today has no bearing on the fact that I went to college or that I have an engineering degree.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: soulnet on November 11, 2013, 10:41:05 am
Then it happened again. That's when I realized I had mixed the Curse pile into my discard and reshuffled.

This should be added in the counters section of the Tribute article.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: GendoIkari on November 11, 2013, 12:02:02 pm
Also see: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1129.0
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Mr Anderson on November 11, 2013, 12:03:43 pm
I was one point behind at the start of my turn, two piles were depleted and two estates were left. Well, I thought two estates were left, and went for them with 5$ and 2 buys, but I did not notice that my opponent bought the second last estate on his last turn. I lost on turns.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: GendoIkari on November 11, 2013, 12:09:43 pm
marriagestrategy.com (http://marriagestrategy.com)
That site could just have "it depends on the spouse" and nothing else there.  ;D

Why does this forum limit you to only one +1 per post??
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: KingZog3 on November 11, 2013, 12:25:08 pm
I was winning by a few points and was going to end the game on 3 piles by finishing the Estates. My opponent finishes his turn and I just mindlessly bought the last Estate...except he had triple embargo'd it last turn. I lost by 1 point.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: ehunt on November 11, 2013, 07:02:33 pm
Grad School.

It gets better. Soon you'll be making what your friends from college were making five years ago.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: soulnet on November 11, 2013, 09:02:58 pm
Grad School.

It gets better. Soon you'll be making what your friends from college were making five years ago.

Between PhD comics and this comments, I don't understand why people from the US just don't go to grad school somewhere else in the world. If you are in science, PhD is almost free here and with the scolarship you can lead a decent life. It is of course less than being a programmer in the industry, but is probably about 70% of that, and programmers get paid pretty well.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: AJD on November 11, 2013, 09:11:33 pm
Grad School.

It gets better. Soon you'll be making what your friends from college were making five years ago.

Between PhD comics and this comments, I don't understand why people from the US just don't go to grad school somewhere else in the world. If you are in science, PhD is almost free here and with the scolarship you can lead a decent life.

PhDs are (often? usually?) free in the US as well, though you may have to be a teaching asssistant or research assistant for some number of semesters. For instance, my PhD was tuition-free, plus I was paid a (low but livable) stipend, for five years, of which I had to TA for one year and RA for one year. (For my sixth year my fellowship ended and I had to get a job; but I kind of guilt-tripped my advisor into paying my tuition for that year as well.)

Actually now that I'm teaching in Canada, I'm surprised by how little PhD students here are paid—or at least, they seem to have to TA a great deal more and aren't guaranteed much funding by the university. Though I don't know if this is a difference between the US and Canada, between private and public universities, or just between the specific university I studied at and the one I'm teaching at.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: jonts26 on November 12, 2013, 01:27:30 am
Grad School.

It gets better. Soon you'll be making what your friends from college were making five years ago.

Between PhD comics and this comments, I don't understand why people from the US just don't go to grad school somewhere else in the world. If you are in science, PhD is almost free here and with the scolarship you can lead a decent life. It is of course less than being a programmer in the industry, but is probably about 70% of that, and programmers get paid pretty well.

Oh, don't get me wrong. Grad school isn't a bad deal. As long as you are in engineering or the sciences (engineering here), you almost certainly aren't paying tuition and are getting a small stipend which is enough to live well enough, if a bit cheaply, on. I have no complaints about making my own hours and being able to pay my bills, it's just, it took me too long to realize how much I dislike research and the entire environment surrounding academia. And by the time I did, well, the status quo is a lot easier than job searching. But now I'm almost done, really ready to move on anyway, but I don't feel better about having spent 5 years of my life building skills which I hope I never have to use going forward. Still, I guess getting to be called Dr. jonts has some appeal. So there's that.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: GwinnR on November 13, 2013, 06:05:57 am
Man, no one here has made stupid mistakes outside of Dominion?
The only mistake outside of Dominion ist not being inside of Dominion ;-)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Davio on November 13, 2013, 07:11:22 am
Similar to the Governor example, I had a hand of Governor-Governor-Silver-Gold once with 1 Province and 1 Duchy left.

Silly me chose to trash the Gold first, letting my opponent trash a $4 for the last Duchy.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Emeric on November 13, 2013, 09:00:49 am
Similar to the Governor example, I had a hand of Governor-Governor-Silver-Gold once with 1 Province and 1 Duchy left.

Silly me chose to trash the Gold first, letting my opponent trash a $4 for the last Duchy.

Next time you will trash your silver, and your opponent will trash is Expand ;)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: brokoli on November 14, 2013, 02:42:29 pm
marriagestrategy.com (http://marriagestrategy.com)
That site could just have "it depends on the spouse" and nothing else there.  ;D
It depends on the mother-in-law...
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Asper on November 14, 2013, 03:14:58 pm
Dominion. I had the game in hand.
Then i stumbled and it fell down the stairs.

Seriously though, we once played a game where nobody had any points because without noticing it, we had caused a three-pile. My real life mistakes are too embarassing to talk about them here, but as for many embarrassing mistakes, "love" was a relevant aspect of them.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Awaclus on November 14, 2013, 03:57:18 pm
marriagestrategy.com (http://marriagestrategy.com)
That site could just have "it depends on the spouse" and nothing else there.  ;D
It depends on the mother-in-law...
Are you married to your mother-in-law?  :o

Not that there's anything wrong with it...
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: AdamH on November 15, 2013, 08:58:19 am
Counting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G048NJQ1we0&t=9m0s)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: KingZog3 on November 15, 2013, 09:35:36 am
Counting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G048NJQ1we0&t=9m0s)

"That's not the third pile!" is something I've experienced before too.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: heron on November 15, 2013, 08:45:37 pm
Counting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G048NJQ1we0&t=9m0s)

"That's not the third pile!" is something I've experienced before too.

I tend to do the opposite: Trying to end the game by two-piling has lost me quite a few matches.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Qvist on November 15, 2013, 10:40:55 pm
Counting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G048NJQ1we0&t=9m0s)

And counting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEAFERJ6L8k&t=15m55s)
and counting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWf0hrH0Jhk&t=36m20s)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: flies on November 16, 2013, 12:30:30 pm

I tend to do the opposite: Trying to end the game by two-piling has lost me quite a few matches.
Yes.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Davio on November 16, 2013, 02:50:47 pm
Oh, Goko, wherefore art thou Goko?

Quote
Davio: turn 10
Davio   plays Cartographer
Davio   draws Silver
Davio   looks at Fool's Gold, Fool's Gold, Copper, Cartographer
Davio   places Cartographer on top of deck
Davio   places Fool's Gold on top of deck
Davio   places Fool's Gold on top of deck
Davio   places Copper on top of deck
Davio   plays JackOfAllTrades
Davio   gains Silver
Davio   places Copper on top of deck
Davio   trashes Province
Davio   plays 3 Copper, 1 Silver
Davio   buys Cartographer
Davio   gains Cartographer
Davio   draws Fool's Gold, Fool's Gold, Cartographer, Silver, Copper

I don't even remember clicking on the Province, but the site was so laggy, I might as well have.

Still, I ended up winning that game somehow, so it wasn't too bad. Maybe it was a highly strategic move to trash a Province for no benefit, who knows?

What's even worse is that because of the site's lagginess I didn't realize until after the game that there were only 7 Provinces in our decks!
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: petrie911 on November 17, 2013, 10:14:44 am
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: pingpongsam on November 17, 2013, 09:21:50 pm
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Kirian on November 17, 2013, 10:56:13 pm
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.

I was going to edge-case this, then realized that no, there's no edge case.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Dsell on November 17, 2013, 11:06:18 pm
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.

I was going to edge-case this, then realized that no, there's no edge case.

Edge case: your opponent Ambassador'd that treasure map to you and you don't have another one. You've Golem'd into a Throne Room and have no other action cards that you want to play in your hand, and you won't have any actions left after playing Golem. You want to trash the Treasure Map asap.

(Ok, it's not an edge case to the situation where you choose to open TM/TR, but it is is a case where you would think to Throne a TM!)
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: TrojH on November 18, 2013, 09:10:05 am
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.

Or thought to buy a Golem and two Treasure Maps, in hopes of drawing both Treasure Maps with the Golem.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: soulnet on November 18, 2013, 09:27:09 am
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.

I was going to edge-case this, then realized that no, there's no edge case.

Edge case: your opponent Ambassador'd that treasure map to you and you don't have another one. You've Golem'd into a Throne Room and have no other action cards that you want to play in your hand, and you won't have any actions left after playing Golem. You want to trash the Treasure Map asap.

There is a much simpler case: You bought 3 Treasure Maps to hurry they colliding, and you have all 3 in hand plus TR. Playing TR on a TM gets rid of all 3 instead of leaving one almost-dead TM.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: meandering mercury on November 18, 2013, 10:02:40 am
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.

I was going to edge-case this, then realized that no, there's no edge case.

Edge case: it's a 4P game so you want a high-variance strategy (TM), and Scheme is the bane to YW.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: flies on November 18, 2013, 11:01:47 am

There is a much simpler case: You bought 3 Treasure Maps to hurry they colliding, and you have all 3 in hand plus TR. Playing TR on a TM gets rid of all 3 instead of leaving one almost-dead TM.
i was going to complain about this since only the first TM play produces gold, but the goal of the second play is trashing the third TM not getting gold, so you're in the clear, and I've avoided a stupid mistake.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Asper on November 21, 2013, 06:59:38 am
While I may have made worse ones, I never felt dumber than the time I opened Scheme/Treasure Map.

I take it you never thought to throne room a treasure map then.

I was going to edge-case this, then realized that no, there's no edge case.

You start with three Harems, a Curse and a Crossroads in hand after an Urchin attack (which was defended by your Lighthouse - the Urchin is from the Black Market, the Lighthouse too - it was passed to you by a Black-Marketed Masquerade). You play Crossroads and draw Library, Throne Room and Treasure Map. Now you have 7 cards in hand, three Harems, a Curse and those actions. Throning the Treasure Map reduces your hand by one more than playing Library with it, and you want that 3rd card (it's the last and you saw it with Pearl Diver). As it is an Action (Scout, which you need because of the extreme Harem-density in your deck, you managed that with a Mint that became that Crossroads afterwards due to a Saboteur attack - the Saboteur came from the Black Market, too), you also need to have an Action left - so no chance to play Throne Room, Treasure Map and then Library. Because of decktracking you also know the remaining two cards are your only Duke (got that for your second Mint due to a Swindler from the Black Market) and a Colony, which is exactly the card you want to buy this turn to end the game and win by three points.

Things like this happen every day.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: yed on November 21, 2013, 09:01:22 am
Going for golden deck with Highways.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Davio on November 21, 2013, 09:18:43 am
Buying Scout.  ;D
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: soulnet on November 21, 2013, 09:34:15 am
Going for golden deck with Highways.

That does not sound terrible. Once you get the deck to Bishop+$7+ in Treasure+Highways, you can just trash Highways until you get to the real Golden Deck. It does sound slow, though.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: jonts26 on November 21, 2013, 11:08:14 am
Going for golden deck with Highways.

That does not sound terrible. Once you get the deck to Bishop+$7+ in Treasure+Highways, you can just trash Highways until you get to the real Golden Deck. It does sound slow, though.

Why do you need to trash your highways? They're cantrips so as long as you only have bishop + province + 2 treasure cards, you will still draw your deck.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: yed on November 21, 2013, 11:10:43 am
Going for golden deck with Highways.

That does not sound terrible. Once you get the deck to Bishop+$7+ in Treasure+Highways, you can just trash Highways until you get to the real Golden Deck. It does sound slow, though.
Well if you find about it when 3 Provinces are left... it is.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: yed on November 21, 2013, 11:11:33 am
Going for golden deck with Highways.

That does not sound terrible. Once you get the deck to Bishop+$7+ in Treasure+Highways, you can just trash Highways until you get to the real Golden Deck. It does sound slow, though.

Why do you need to trash your highways? They're cantrips so as long as you only have bishop + province + 2 treasure cards, you will still draw your deck.
Trashing Provinces gives you less VP.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: jonts26 on November 21, 2013, 11:23:46 am
I would imagine the idea would be ot just run the province pile to end the game. Though with enough Highways, you could have a deck of bishop + 3 provinces, buying a 4th, plus bishop points. With that many points, eating a few provinces for 1 point would be fine. Obviously this is a contrived situation, but if your opponent was going for some sort of alt-vp, you might consider it.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: eHalcyon on November 21, 2013, 03:57:59 pm
Going for golden deck with Highways.

That does not sound terrible. Once you get the deck to Bishop+$7+ in Treasure+Highways, you can just trash Highways until you get to the real Golden Deck. It does sound slow, though.

Why do you need to trash your highways? They're cantrips so as long as you only have bishop + province + 2 treasure cards, you will still draw your deck.

Well the main issue is that Bishop gives far fewer VP after you play a bunch of Highways.
Title: Re: The stupidest mistake you ever made
Post by: Aidan Millow on December 10, 2013, 10:39:59 pm
At the end of a really long game in which I built a mediocre University/Rabble engine I counterfeited my only gold when I didn't really need to not realising that I'd already counterfeited all of either my silvers or coppers and thus that it reduced my 7 fairgrounds to 4 points.