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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: Voltaire on September 14, 2013, 02:19:31 am
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What card do you always mis-remember, no matter how many games you've played?
For me, it's Embargo. I always think it gives +1 Buy.
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I can never remember what gives what when trashing with Transmute.
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Sometimes I forget that Graverobber can gain from the trash. It's there in the name: grave robber. But in my mind it's just "You may trash a $5 Action card from your hand, if you do, gain a Province."
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For some reason I always mix up Apothecary and Scrying Pool. There have been games where I start trashing my Coppers and buy a Potion to get a sweet Scrying Pool engine going, only to realize what I thought was Scrying Pool was Apothecary.
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I tend to forget that Squire gives +$1, since I'm usually just thinking of the options you choose.
I also forget sometimes that Urchin discards all the way down to four cards. I usually think of the discard attack as quite minor, but in fact it is nearly as good as Militia when used as a finisher after a bunch of Council Rooms, Soothsayers, or Governors.
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There's some cards that I use rarely enough that I can't remember all of the clauses on. Graverobber and Rogue being two. I get the Knights mixed up (like a lot of people, I think).
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There's some cards that I use rarely enough that I can't remember all of the clauses on. Graverobber and Rogue being two. I get the Knights mixed up (like a lot of people, I think).
I was about to say "nothing" but I forgot about the Knights... I need to go memorize them right now...
EDIT: Never mind, I just quizzed myself on them and got them all right... ::)
So, the answer really is nothing!
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Develop, remodel, remake, upgrade. I know what they all do, but when I see them in writing I have to think to myself which one does which...
I don't know any of the knights...
Rogue because I never use it, and I actually always forget the trashing part on graverobber
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I often forget that Graverobber top-decks the gained card. Sometimes I try to take opponents' treasures with Pirate Ship.
I'm not sure if this counts, but Treasuries might as well be Peddlers and Alchemists Laboratories when I'm playing IRL, even though I buy them under the assumption that I will be top-decking them.
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Mostly because I haven't played with it enough, I forget that Doctor is terminal. I tend to think of it as being more like Lookout.
Oh, and I can sometimes forget the on-trash benefits of things like Catacombs and Hunting Grounds.
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Can we name some that aren't from the two most recent sets?
I forget that library puts action cards in limbo, not actually straight into the discard.
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Can we name some that aren't from the two most recent sets?
I forget that library puts action cards in limbo, not actually straight into the discard.
I used to confuse the gain restrictions on Smugglers and Haggler with one another. Specifically that Smugglers cannot gain over $6 or Potion costs, and Haggler cannot gain Victory.
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This isn't quite the same, but sometimes I think that Provinces cost $6 if I'm not being careful, just because of that big old 6 on the front. Especially at >$24 and I'm expecting to quad-Province (not that it happens very often).
24 is a slippery number...A little too divisible if you ask me
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I always forget about the Potion clause on Apprentice.
I'm not sure if I could tell you with 100% confidence when the "Gain a Silver" on Jack of all Trades happens.
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I often forget the little benefit for the opponent that Vault give.
I know the on-trash effect of Catacombs, but I don't think of it when playing.
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I forget that Followers gains Estates.
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I forget that you can buy Duchess from the Supply.
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This isn't quite the same, but sometimes I think that Provinces cost $6 if I'm not being careful, just because of that big old 6 on the front. Especially at >$24 and I'm expecting to quad-Province (not that it happens very often).
24 is a slippery number...A little too divisible if you ask me
And sometimes I think that it gives 8VP (when I'm playing without the VP counter (which is why I usually play with it)). This is a problem especially in Colony games.
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I'm not sure if this counts, but Treasuries might as well be Peddlers and Alchemists Laboratories when I'm playing IRL, even though I buy them under the assumption that I will be top-decking them.
I can top that: I do the same with Scheme.
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I'm not sure if this counts, but Treasuries might as well be Peddlers and Alchemists Laboratories when I'm playing IRL, even though I buy them under the assumption that I will be top-decking them.
I can top that: I do the same with Scheme.
How about all the durations when playing IRL?
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I'm not sure if this counts, but Treasuries might as well be Peddlers and Alchemists Laboratories when I'm playing IRL, even though I buy them under the assumption that I will be top-decking them.
I can top that: I do the same with Scheme.
How about all the durations when playing IRL?
I will give +1 to anyone who honestly forgets to keep Tactician in play.
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I'm not sure if this counts, but Treasuries might as well be Peddlers and Alchemists Laboratories when I'm playing IRL, even though I buy them under the assumption that I will be top-decking them.
I can top that: I do the same with Scheme.
How about all the durations when playing IRL?
I will give +1 to anyone who honestly forgets to keep Tactician in play.
I'm pretty sure it has happened in my group. If you play a bunch of cantrips or are doing double tac, it happens. You get so used to just sweeping up all the cards you have in play.
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I'm not sure if this counts, but Treasuries might as well be Peddlers and Alchemists Laboratories when I'm playing IRL, even though I buy them under the assumption that I will be top-decking them.
I can top that: I do the same with Scheme.
How about all the durations when playing IRL?
I will give +1 to anyone who honestly forgets to keep Tactician in play.
I sometimes forget to discard it from play after the Tac turn. Do I get a +1 too?
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I sometimes forget to discard it from play after the Tac turn. Do I get a +1 too?
That sounds like the single best double-Tac strategy.
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I used to always think that Bazaar gave a +buy because, well, it's a Bazaar!
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I get horribly confused as to how Urchin and Squire trigger sometimes. I will look at a board with Urchin and a few other Attacks and think "Ok, how can I trash Urchin to get a Mercenary?" :facepalm:
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Oracle and Fortune Teller. Will never get those two straight.
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I don't remember what exactly Doctor and Stonemason do, but i also don't own Guilds (not available in Germany).
Also i can't remember which Knight has which effect, except Sir Michael does the discard attack and the one for 4$ gives two buys. And that the Knights randomizer costs 5$.
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I don't remember what exactly Doctor and Stonemason do, but i also don't own Guilds (not available in Germany).
Also i can't remember which Knight has which effect, except Sir Michael does the discard attack and the one for 4$ gives two buys. And that the Knights randomizer costs 5$.
The Knights Randomizer
$5: Action–Attack–Knight
Each other player reveals the top 2 cards of his deck, trashes one of them costing from $3 to $6, and discards the rest. If a Knight is trashed by this, trash this card.
Randomly choose one: +2 Cards; +2 Actions; +1 Card and +1 Action; +$2; +2 Buys; trash up to two cards from your hand; gain a card costing up to $3; each other player discards down to three cards in hand.
When you trash this, you have a 10% chance of gaining a Gold.
Worth 1/5 VP
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Don't know names and effects of 3 male knights (I know the 5 female and Sir Martin+Vander) + many of the guilds cards + the full effect of Graverobber.
But I never played DA nor Guilds. All I play IRL with are Base, Intrigue and Prosperity
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I realised too late today that I misremembered Doctor as discarding the cards that aren't trashed. It made my experimental Doctor+Tunnel opening (which would probably have been a bit dubious even with Doctor working as I thought it did) spectacularly ineffective.
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Mine or Mint?
Also, on Iso I always confused Menagerie and Shanty Town. I think it was because the color scheme of the images were similar. I don't have this problem anymore.
But I am still sometimes surprised when all my Treasures are trashed after buying a Mint.
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Mine or Mint?
Also, on Iso I always confused Menagerie and Shanty Town. I think it was because the color scheme of the images were similar. I don't have this problem anymore.
But I am still sometimes surprised when all my Treasures are trashed after buying a Mint.
Enter Mine/Mint-joke here ;-)
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I forget that you can buy Duchess from the Supply.
I usually do the opposite, forgetting to gain a Duchess after buying a late Duchy.
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I forget that you can buy Duchess from the Supply.
I usually do the opposite, forgetting to gain a Duchess after buying a late Duchy.
I just forget that Duchess is in the game at all (until Goko prompts me to gain one).
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Another one, i always believe Embassy gives a buy. I always mix it up with Margrave and/or Council Room.
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Another one, i always believe Embassy gives a buy. I always mix it up with Margrave and/or Council Room.
Holy cow, that would make Embassy the best card ever, or at least bring it to Wharf level.
I'm mostly know how all the cards work. There have been a few times where I was surprised that Rabble was discarding Action-Victory and Treasure-Victory cards. I also didn't count on it discarding Hovel and Necropolis.
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Another one, i always believe Embassy gives a buy. I always mix it up with Margrave and/or Council Room.
Holy cow, that would make Embassy the best card ever, or at least bring it to Wharf level.
I'm mostly know how all the cards work. There have been a few times where I was surprised that Rabble was discarding Action-Victory and Treasure-Victory cards. I also didn't count on it discarding Hovel and Necropolis.
Rabble doesn't discard Hovel.
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Another one, i always believe Embassy gives a buy. I always mix it up with Margrave and/or Council Room.
Holy cow, that would make Embassy the best card ever, or at least bring it to Wharf level.
I'm mostly know how all the cards work. There have been a few times where I was surprised that Rabble was discarding Action-Victory and Treasure-Victory cards. I also didn't count on it discarding Hovel and Necropolis.
Rabble doesn't discard Hovel.
See what I mean? I mixed it up with Farming Village again.
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A rule I always forget about is the player-2-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
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A rule I always forget about is the player-2-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
... or player-3-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
... or player-4-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
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A rule I always forget about is the player-2-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
... or player-3-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
... or player-4-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
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I also forget that dominion can be played with more than 2 players ;)
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I always forget Graverobber topdecks the gained cards. In fact, my IRL group didn't even realize this when we first got DA.
As for duration cards, I move them so that they are slightly higher than my other action cards, that way they don't get swept up like all the rest. Then I move them back down for the start of my next turn to know that they are giving me bonuses.
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I always forget Graverobber topdecks the gained cards. In fact, my IRL group didn't even realize this when we first got DA.
As for duration cards, I move them so that they are slightly higher than my other action cards, that way they don't get swept up like all the rest. Then I move them back down for the start of my next turn to know that they are giving me bonuses.
I think the Seaside manual actually recommends adopting a system like that, though maybe it recommends the reverse.
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A rule I always forget about is the player-2-wins-on-tie-if-he-has-fewer-turns rule.
And I was just playing and didn't double-Colony because I knew my opponent could end in a tie (but I was player 2 so I would have won)...
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I always have to remember myself that Mercenary does not have +1 Action, because Urchin does. I also tend to play my second, third etc. Crossroads as if they had +1 Action.
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I always have to remember myself that Mercenary does not have +1 Action, because Urchin does. I also tend to play my second, third etc. Crossroads as if they had +1 Action.
I always remember that with Mercenary because I've gotten too many of them before...
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Anybody else who always confuses Wharf and Merchant Ship?
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Anybody else who always confuses Wharf and Merchant Ship?
No.
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Graverobber! Trash which into who? Gain what? I never remember the restrictions.
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I was playing with Black Market and Coin token cards, and no other real source of +$, and forgot that Coin tokens can't be used for Black Market.
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I was playing with Black Market and Coin token cards, and no other real source of +$, and forgot that Coin tokens can't be used for Black Market.
Gold, Silver, and Copper are the most real sources of $.
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I have recently noticed that I never remember that Scrying Pool is an attack when I'm making the decision that BM/Fishing Village/Jack is probably faster in this kingdom.
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Anybody else who always confuses Wharf and Merchant Ship?
No.
Well, i do. They are orange, cost 5$, give +2 for two conseuctive turns, are cards... There's no difference at all.
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I sometimes forget to put stuff on top of my deck cuz of scheme. Even though that's the whole reason you buy the card...
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I sometimes forget I have to play my action cards during my action phase. Never works when i click them in them in the buy phase...
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I sometimes forget I have to play my action cards during my action phase. Never works when i click them in them in the buy phase...
Me too, or rather, I forget that clicking the "End Actions" button means that I don't want to play any Actions this turn, not that I don't want to play the Action that I'm currently considering. "Do I want to play this Smithy? Nah, it would make these Ambassadors miss the reshuffle. Better click End Actions."
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I repeatedly discard actions I want to play when I play cards who have a discard effect after another effect, such as Warehouse, Young Witch etc. Storeroom is probably the worst.
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I repeatedly discard actions I want to play when I play cards who have a discard effect after another effect, such as Warehouse, Young Witch etc. Storeroom is probably the worst.
No, Hamlet is the worst. I always discard my draw cards for the +buy by accident. Other people's Vaults are bad too.
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I can't tell you how many times i've screwed myself over with hamlet... Also: Reordering cards. I always screw up the order I want them to go back... At least twice in a recent game, I played cartographer, then herald and drew the action, and revealed the treasure...
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I can't tell you how many times i've screwed myself over with hamlet... Also: Reordering cards. I always screw up the order I want them to go back... At least twice in a recent game, I played cartographer, then herald and drew the action, and revealed the treasure...
I actually got used to the ordering thing. But I understand your frustration.
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Oh, and Counterfeit to terribly done. Should be payed before regular treasures by default.
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I can't tell you how many times i've screwed myself over with hamlet... Also: Reordering cards. I always screw up the order I want them to go back... At least twice in a recent game, I played cartographer, then herald and drew the action, and revealed the treasure...
Yeah, "I want this card on top" - click.
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I can't tell you how many times i've screwed myself over with hamlet... Also: Reordering cards. I always screw up the order I want them to go back... At least twice in a recent game, I played cartographer, then herald and drew the action, and revealed the treasure...
I actually got used to the ordering thing. But I understand your frustration.
I don't really play on goko enough to get used to anything :P So the frustrations just kinda come back every time I play with the cards in quesiton...
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I don't remember them wrong so much as I confuse them way too often... That would be Woodcutter and Workshop!!! I can't tell you the number of times I have picked up Woodcutter by accident thinking I was getting Workshop. :-[
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The most often card I forget is the card that is placed on the next page of Goko. Really frustrating at times!
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The most often card I forget is the card that is placed on the next page of Goko. Really frustrating at times!
I never remember to check the second page. It's particularly annoying when it's Border Village, King's Court, Grand Market.
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The most often card I forget is the card that is placed on the next page of Goko. Really frustrating at times!
I never remember to check the second page. It's particularly annoying when it's Border Village, King's Court, Grand Market.
It doesn't help that the card on the other page will always be the most expensive card in the kingdom.
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The most often card I forget is the card that is placed on the next page of Goko. Really frustrating at times!
I never remember to check the second page. It's particularly annoying when it's Border Village, King's Court, Grand Market.
It doesn't help that the card on the other page will always be the most expensive card in the kingdom.
Adventurer.
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i always think cards make me win games when i buy them but almost half of all times i'm wrong
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i always think cards make me win games when i buy them but almost half of all times i'm wrong
I'm pretty sure VP cards make you win games.
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i always think cards make me win games when i buy them but almost half of all times i'm wrong
I'm pretty sure VP cards make you win games.
(http://dominionstrategy.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/goons.jpg)
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i always think cards make me win games when i buy them but almost half of all times i'm wrong
I'm pretty sure VP cards make you win games.
(http://dominionstrategy.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/goons.jpg)
Of course. But you still need to buy Goons cards. So cards make you win.
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Hold on a second! I played a game of Dominion once where I bought cards, and I lost.
Tables - 1
KingZog - 0
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Hold on a second! I played a game of Dominion once where I bought cards, and I lost.
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KingZog - 0
But you lost to your opponent who DID buy cards! So his cards directly led to his victory.
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KingZog - 1
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I just played a game where I bought cards and my opponent didn't and I lost.
Axxle: 1
Axxle2: 3
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I just played a game where I bought cards and my opponent didn't and I lost.
Axxle: 1
Axxle2: 3
Log or it didn't happen.
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I just played a game where I bought cards and my opponent didn't and I lost.
Axxle: 1
Axxle2: 3
It could happen if you disconnect after your first turn on Goko.
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I just played a game where I bought cards and my opponent didn't and I lost.
Axxle: 1
Axxle2: 3
It could happen if you disconnect after your first turn on Goko.
Or he just three-piled on Curses, Perl Divers, Duchess :-P
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I just played a game where I bought cards and my opponent didn't and I lost.
Axxle: 1
Axxle2: 3
It could happen if you disconnect after your first turn on Goko.
Or he just three-piled on Curses, Perl Divers, Duchess :-P
Curses estates coppers
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I just discovered that Alchemist/Herbalist/Scheme doesn't work the way you think it would, because Scheme resolves first.
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I just discovered that Alchemist/Herbalist/Scheme doesn't work the way you think it would, because Scheme resolves first.
Why? Scheme says "if" while herbalist says "when." I don't know of any rule saying that one take precedence over another.
Choose herbalist for scheme. Discard alchemists, topdecking them because you have a potion in play. Discard herbalist, triggering two effects, scheme's and herbalist's, choose to resolve whichever you want first. Topdeck potion or topdeck herbalist. topdeck the other. What's the problem?
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I just discovered that Alchemist/Herbalist/Scheme doesn't work the way you think it would, because Scheme resolves first.
Why? Scheme says "if" while herbalist says "when." I don't know of any rule saying that one take precedence over another.
Choose herbalist for scheme. Discard alchemists, topdecking them because you have a potion in play. Discard herbalist, triggering two effects, scheme's and herbalist's, choose to resolve whichever you want first. Topdeck potion or topdeck herbalist. topdeck the other. What's the problem?
Goko may not let you choose, like alchemist and Treasuries. However, I don't see why it matters. You'll still get the Alchemists, Potion and Herbalist on top of your deck.
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Oh! I was misunderstanding Scheme. It made me choose a card for Scheme before anything else, and I thought the chosen card would go straight on my deck, meaning the Herbalist wouldn't be able to top-deck my Potion for me. Turns out you choose the card at the start of clean-up, but it isn't top-decked until you discard it.
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re OP: mine/mint
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Sometimes (irl) I tend to play two Ruins consecutively (none of which is Ruined Village). Probably because subconsciously I don't count them as actions. This happens to me most often when I play Ruined Library - draw a card, yay it's an action, play it... wait no.
Also I kepp forgetting that Duchess has a friendly Spy effect, but usually everyone else keeps forgetting that, too, so it doesn't really matter :P
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Actually recently I've been thinking of Colony as 11 points, not 10. I'm always pleasantly surprised when the game ends and I've won by 4 points of something. Thanks opponents who aren't counting!