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Title: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Archetype on July 01, 2013, 06:59:03 pm
Link (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/131357/coup).
Description down below:
Quote from: BGG
In Coup, you want to be the last player with influence in the game, with influence being represented by face-down character cards in your playing area.

Each player starts the game with two coins and two influence – i.e., two face-down character cards; the fifteen card deck consists of three copies of five different characters, each with a unique set of powers:

    Duke: Take three coins from the treasury. Block someone from taking foreign aid.
    Assassin: Pay three coins and try to assassinate another player's character.
    Contessa: Block an assassination attempt.
    Captain: Take two coins from another player, or block someone from stealing coins from you.
    Ambassador: Draw two character cards from the Court (the deck), choose which (if any) to exchange with your face-down characters, then return two. Block someone from stealing coins from you.

On your turn, you can take any of the actions listed above, regardless of which characters you actually have in front of you, or you can take one of three other actions:

    Income: Take one coin from the treasury.
    Foreign aid: Take two coins from the treasury.
    Coup: Pay seven coins and launch a coup against an opponent, forcing that player to lose an influence. (If you have ten coins, you must take this action.)

When you take one of the character actions – whether actively on your turn, or defensively in response to someone else's action – that character's action automatically succeeds unless an opponent challenges you. In this case, if you can't reveal the appropriate character, you lose an influence, turning one of your characters face-up. Face-up characters cannot be used, and if both of your characters are face-up, you're out of the game.

If you do have the character in question, you reveal it, the opponent loses an influence, then you shuffle that character into the deck and draw a new one, perhaps getting the same character again and perhaps not.

The last player to still have influence – that is, a face-down character – wins the game!

Quote
Game State:

Turn Order
1. liopoil
2. Grujah
3. Umbrageofsnow
4. Twistedarcher
5. hyramgraff

--

liopoil (Finished 1st!)
Duke
Ambassador

Claims:
Ambassador


Grujah (Finished 3rd!)
Assassin
Assassin


Claims

UmbrageOfSnow (Finished 5th!)

Duke
Captain

Claims
Captain
Duke


Twistedarcher (Finished 4th!)

Contessa
Assassin

Claims
Ambassador


hyramgraff (Finished 2nd!)
Duke
Contessa

Claims
Duke
Contessa




Playing by forum:

To keep things running smoothly and quickly, turns are going to work like this:

1. On your turn, bold one action {Ambassador, Captain, Duke, Assassin, Income, Foreign Aid, Coup} and list a target for said action (if required).
  1A. That action has 24 hours to resolve (except for Coup and Income which happen almost instantly). During this time period, players can either:
    1Aa. Challenge that player by posting Challenge:Player Name {Card Name}
    1Ab. React to that action by claiming to have a card I have Contessa {Assassination}/Duke{Foreign Aid}/Ambassador {Captain}!
  1B. If you have a card that can block a played card or want to call someone out, but aren't online in time, tough cheese. You don't get to and the action goes as normal. So be active!
2. You may set presets. Say, for example, you always want to immediately block Assasation attempts, you must notify me and tell me that whenever someone were to play an Assassin on you, you immediately respond with a Contessa. Or that you never want to call Player X out for playing the Assassin.
  2A.I suggest everyone set at least one preset during the pregame. You can set them at any time and they can be undone at any time.
    2Aa. This will keep the game running smoothly and can make the actions you take seem more valid (akin to IRL when players immediately respond to an action being taken).
  2B. These presets will be posted by me, but under the player in question's name.
3. Table talk IS allowed, but no talking to other players outside the game thread whether IRL or by PMs.
4. Refer to the OP often. I will be updating it frequently with...
  1A. What players claim to have (whether or not they do or don't have it).
  1B. What cards players have flipped over.
   1Ba. And who is out and who is in.
  1C. The amount of money players have.
  1D. The turn order.

Actions:

Assassin:
Pay 3 coins. Choose 1 player. They lose one card. BLOCKED BY CONTESSA
Captain: Choose 1 player. Take 2 coins. BLOCKED BY CAPTAIN; BLOCKS CAPTAIN
Ambassador: Draw 2 cards, add them to your facedown cards, and return 2 cards to the deck. BLOCKS CAPTAIN
Contessa: BLOCKS ASSASSIN
Duke: Take 3 coins. BLOCKS FOREIGN AID

Income: Take 1 coin.
Foreign Aid: Take 2 coins. BLOCKED BY DUKE
Coup: Pay 7 coins. Choose one player. They lose one card.

Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: theory on July 01, 2013, 07:01:07 pm
I can attest to this being a very fun game!  (Though I am not in.)
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 01, 2013, 07:01:19 pm
In!
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: nkirbit on July 02, 2013, 02:20:05 am
This game looks cool.. I recently purchased it on kickstarter and am waiting it's arrival in a couple of months.  I am worried about how this would play on a forum, though.  After every single action, wouldn't you have to wait for every single player to check in to possibly challenge it?  It just seems like it has the possibility to really drag on.. I get the impression that it's supposed to be a quick and simple game with short decision times, and am worried that we wouldn't get that here.
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: liopoil on July 02, 2013, 10:13:55 am
/in
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: Archetype on July 02, 2013, 01:35:57 pm
This game looks cool.. I recently purchased it on kickstarter and am waiting it's arrival in a couple of months.  I am worried about how this would play on a forum, though.  After every single action, wouldn't you have to wait for every single player to check in to possibly challenge it?  It just seems like it has the possibility to really drag on.. I get the impression that it's supposed to be a quick and simple game with short decision times, and am worried that we wouldn't get that here.
eh I'll probably have defaults.

So a player can tell me that they'd like their Contessa (which they may or may not have) to activate immediately when they are Assassinated. Or for their default action on their turn is to use Duke (which they may or may not have). If a player doesn't want to call people out, they can just tell me before hand. Stuff like that.

We ran Love Letter by forum and it worked fairly well.
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: Grujah on July 04, 2013, 03:15:21 pm
/in.
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: hyramgraff on July 05, 2013, 03:21:06 pm
Why not.  /in
Title: Re: Coup PBF
Post by: Archetype on July 05, 2013, 03:37:52 pm
Cool beans. 4 players works ok.

I'll probably start this on Monday with whoever is signed up, if that's cool with you guys. nkirbit, did you want to /in?
Title: Re: Coup PBF (Stars Monday, 2 spots left!)
Post by: nkirbit on July 05, 2013, 06:59:16 pm
Yeah, why not!
Title: Re: Coup PBF (Stars Monday, 2 spots left!)
Post by: Tables on July 05, 2013, 11:10:34 pm
Love Letter is a single action per player. Any interaction with other players can be trivially handled by the mod, who needs to send the next player his card anyway.

This requires at least a moderate level of people responding to most actions. I think it isn't so suited to PBF play - it'll be too heavy on checking in for so light a game.

If people want to, go ahead though. I've played before but I think you might actually find it a bit disappointing in a PBF setting.
Title: Re: Coup PBF (Stars Monday, 2 spots left!)
Post by: Archetype on July 05, 2013, 11:47:17 pm
Love Letter is a single action per player. Any interaction with other players can be trivially handled by the mod, who needs to send the next player his card anyway.

This requires at least a moderate level of people responding to most actions. I think it isn't so suited to PBF play - it'll be too heavy on checking in for so light a game.

If people want to, go ahead though. I've played before but I think you might actually find it a bit disappointing in a PBF setting.
Eh, yeah possibly. But it should run smoothly since it seems like everyone that has signed up gets online often enough anyways.
Title: Re: Coup PBF (Stars Monday, 1 spot left!)
Post by: nkirbit on July 06, 2013, 12:23:56 pm
/out, sorry.
Title: Re: Coup PBF (Stars Monday, 2 spot left!)
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 06, 2013, 02:07:21 pm
Read some reviews on BGG, this looks interesting, I'll try it.

/in
Title: Re: Coup PBF (Pregame!)
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 01:29:43 pm
Sending out hands.

Please confirm back to me once you receive them.
Title: Re: Coup I (Pregame!)
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 08, 2013, 02:11:27 pm
Can you make it more explicit in the OP which character cards block which other cards?
Title: Re: Coup I (Pregame!)
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 08, 2013, 02:21:48 pm
Important question to get out of the way now before any of us debate claiming or not:  Are our roles distributed with a deck of cards, or randomly without regard to number.  Are there exactly 3 of each role?

More importantly, if 2 copies of role X are out, is the probability of a third being drawn less than the probability of a role which no one currently holds (as it should be with cards), or are the roles determined randomly as with dice, with a limit of how many and a re-roll if that limit would be exceeded?
Title: Re: Coup I (Pregame!)
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 02:30:29 pm
No fancy algorithms. I just have a deck of Coup cards right next to me, so I'll be shuffling, dealing them out , and generally just mimicking what is going on in here.

Added the character cards to the OP. Remember, you can make presets at any time, but it is recommended you set one now for sake of ease (depending on your starting hand, that is).
Title: Re: Coup I (Pregame!)
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 08, 2013, 02:58:41 pm
No fancy algorithms. I just have a deck of Coup cards right next to me, so I'll be shuffling, dealing them out , and generally just mimicking what is going on in here.

That's actually what I was hoping for.  A deck of cards is sort of a fancier algorithm that gives us more to work with.  I was afraid you'd be rolling dice or using a random number generator, deck of cards is much preferred!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 06:12:28 pm
And that's all the /confirms!

liopoil, take your first action!


After liopoil has made his move, it'd be really helpful if players either PM'd or write in thread No Reaction to help speed up the time between turns and so we know we aren't waiting on anyone.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:10:11 pm
Ambassador!!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 08, 2013, 07:12:06 pm
Challenge:Lipoil {Ambassador}
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 08, 2013, 07:17:29 pm
Well, then no reaction! (is this even necessary since the challenge has already happened?)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 08, 2013, 07:18:01 pm
Oh do we need to go in order for reactions?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:23:33 pm
I kinda think we should go in order, otherwise I will just wait to see if someone else will challenge so I don't have to...
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 07:23:54 pm
Oh do we need to go in order for reactions?
IRL I don't, but I'm cool with whatever.

Grujah challenges liopoil!

liopoil DOES have the Ambassador! liopoil shuffles Ambassador back into the deck and draws a new card, plus the 2 cards he will draw from Ambassador normally. I'll send you a PM with that info shortly.

Grujah, choose 1 card to flip over.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:25:11 pm
the deck only has 5 cards left right?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 07:29:38 pm
the deck only has 5 cards left right?
Yep!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:29:43 pm
question: can you try to block an assassination attempt or captain attempt with countessa or something even if they are not trying to kill/steal from you?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 07:31:50 pm
question: can you try to block an assassination attempt or captain attempt with countessa or something even if they are not trying to kill/steal from you?
We play that you can, but no one ever has.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:34:33 pm
I can see trying to stop someone stealing coins from someone else if the player has 5 coins and 2 cards and the player they are stealing from has 2 coins and one card, and you actually do have the captain/ambassador in hand.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 07:34:49 pm
Grujah flips the Assassin! liopoil returns two cards.

It is Grujah's turn!

Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 08, 2013, 07:40:32 pm
Foreign Aid.

Imo, Amb is very strong. It gives you a lot of choice and you also see unused cards so you gain much info,  so I wanted to discourage people abusing it early. I think its that strong that faking it pays out, esp early so you can use it a lot if people believe you from start.
I hope other people will challenge other Ambs too, now that I am down a card.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:42:04 pm
sorry grujah, but I BLOCK your foreign aid
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 07:47:13 pm
hmm, I would definitely have preferred to see if any of the other 3 players were going to block it before I did. So I think we have to go in order...
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 08, 2013, 07:49:21 pm
Yeah, I think going in order is probably best.

It seems like chances are, someone's going to have the card to block. Probably multiple people are. So in order to share information equally, going in order is probably the best, although it'll slow the game down.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 08, 2013, 08:37:26 pm
Order is probably best, but yeah, it will slow the game down a bunch.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: mail-mi on July 08, 2013, 08:38:14 pm
/tag
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 08, 2013, 08:39:17 pm
Pass, now that Lio's blocked, of course.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 08, 2013, 08:59:18 pm
EDIT: Crap, guess we're still saying if we challenge.  Sorry, I hope I fixed this before anyone saw, but I suppose it doesn't matter much at this stage of the game.

I do not challenge liopoil's block.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 08, 2013, 09:04:08 pm
I think we have to wait for someone to challenge my block if they want to.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 09, 2013, 12:32:50 pm
I think we just need to see if hyramgraff wants to challenge lios block or not.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 09, 2013, 12:45:03 pm
No challenge to the block.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 09, 2013, 02:31:51 pm
So Grujah recieves no coins and lipoid blocks with the Duke.

UmbrageOfSnow, it's your turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 09, 2013, 04:58:38 pm
My Captain (attempts to) steal 2 coins from Grujah!

(Sorry for the sneak preview, by the way, won't happen again.)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 09, 2013, 05:05:28 pm
So we wait for challenges, then do blocks?

No challenge here.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 09, 2013, 05:14:00 pm
So we wait for challenges, then do blocks?

No challenge here.
Yep, challenge first.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 09, 2013, 05:45:12 pm
My Captain (attempts to) steal 2 coins from Grujah!


No challenge.  (Sorry Grujah.)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 09, 2013, 05:45:42 pm
No challenge
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 11, 2013, 08:26:23 am
So it's been 2 days with no challenges and no blocks, does that mean the Captain goes through?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 11, 2013, 08:29:54 am
well, grujah should get a chance to challenge, and somebody could block you.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 11, 2013, 08:45:57 am
I send CO stating that I do not block. I do not block, nor challenge.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 11, 2013, 10:19:53 am
I will block.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 11, 2013, 10:31:32 am
I don't challenge the block.

(I was figuring Grujah wouldn't have a Captain, would have called his bluff on it, but I have nothing to get a read on Twistedarcher with, doesn't seem worth the risk to not believe him, because why would he risk his neck for Grujah if he didn't have it?  Of course, maybe TA's spent years building up a resistance to Iocaine powder or something...)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 11, 2013, 10:40:07 am
Grujah's already in last place, so I'd rather have the coins in his hand than your hand :)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 11, 2013, 12:05:53 pm
No challenge to the block.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 11, 2013, 12:10:51 pm
no challenge obv.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 11, 2013, 12:50:36 pm
Now we just need lio!
EDIT: Twistedarcher, what are you blocking with? Captain or Ambassador?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 11, 2013, 12:54:02 pm
Oops, ambassador.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 11, 2013, 03:15:58 pm
No challenge
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 11, 2013, 03:26:23 pm
And there you have it.

UmbrageofSnow plays Captain on Grujah. Twistedarcher blocks it with Ambassador.


Twistedarcher, your turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 11, 2013, 03:48:20 pm
I'll use Ambassador.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 11, 2013, 04:26:18 pm
No challenge.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 11, 2013, 04:28:17 pm
no challenge
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 11, 2013, 04:29:18 pm
re-OP: I haven't claimed ambassador, because I've played ambassador since then, and might have put it back. I have claimed duke though.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 11, 2013, 04:47:38 pm
also I got 4 and no challenge.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 11, 2013, 04:52:11 pm
No challenge.

But,Grujah, Liopoil blocked your foreign aid.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 11, 2013, 05:31:51 pm
And than TA blocked that captain.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 11, 2013, 05:50:55 pm
Fixed!
Yeah, Gruj should only have 2 coins IIRC.


Twistedarcher, sending your 2 cards ASAP.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 11, 2013, 05:55:32 pm
Lio's Duke blocked Gruj's Foreign Aid.  Then, my Captain was blocked by TA's Captain, so I failed to steal 2 coins from Gruj, but he never gained 2 from the Foreign Aid, so the starting two is correct.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 11, 2013, 06:32:33 pm
My bad.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 12, 2013, 01:23:39 pm
Its all good!

Twisted returned two cards so looks like it is hyramgraff's turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 12, 2013, 01:57:10 pm
Income
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 12, 2013, 01:58:53 pm
And no one can block or challenge income anyway, right?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 12, 2013, 03:49:22 pm
Yep.

hyramgraff takes income and receives 1 coin

Lipoil your turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 12, 2013, 05:36:47 pm
Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 15, 2013, 05:07:32 pm
So we're all still waiting for Grujah to challenge or not challenge Liopoil's Duke, right?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 15, 2013, 06:38:01 pm
no challenge.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 15, 2013, 07:07:14 pm
No challenge!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 15, 2013, 07:50:30 pm
There we go!

Liopoil receives 3 coins.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 15, 2013, 08:21:42 pm
what about TA and hyramgraff?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 15, 2013, 08:26:21 pm
I don't challenge. Duke seems pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 15, 2013, 09:21:02 pm
what about TA and hyramgraff?

PRobably COs.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 15, 2013, 09:43:34 pm
what about TA and hyramgraff?
oh geez, haha. I read something wrong.

hyramgraff's turn to challenge if he chooses, if TA is ok with that.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 16, 2013, 10:42:01 am
No challenge.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 16, 2013, 10:50:45 am
Suggestion:

When action is palyed, everybody sends you a PM whether they challenge or not. They have 24h to do so, if they dont, it means no challenge. The first person in turn order that challenged it actually challenges it, if more than 1 did.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 16, 2013, 01:46:13 pm
That is much, much better. Alot easier to keep track of too.

When someone plays an action, you must PM me with the title ' Coup I {current player's turn}' and tell me whether you want to block and/or challenge the chosen action. You have 24 hours to do so and I'll resolve the actions via turn order
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 16, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
liopoil plays the Duke and recieves 3 coins

Grujah, your turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 16, 2013, 03:13:48 pm
Income.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 17, 2013, 12:54:21 am
Can't even challenge income.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 17, 2013, 01:13:54 pm
Alright, back on a computer.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 17, 2013, 01:19:02 pm
Hmm, presets are really unnecessary once we do the PM me your action thing. Especially since we're going in turn order instead of just yelling it out.

Which is O.K. I wanted something to speed the game up, but it looks like simultaneous challenge/block and slow reveal is the best way in a PBF setting.

Grujah takes Income and receives 1 coin.
UmbrageofSnow, you're up!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: UmbrageOfSnow on July 17, 2013, 01:46:21 pm
I'll use my Duke to take 3 coins!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 18, 2013, 12:29:38 pm
I'll use my Duke to take 3 coins!
No one challenges.

UmbrageOfSnow receives 3 coins!
Twistedarcher, your turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 18, 2013, 12:56:16 pm
I will try to Assassinate UmbrageofSnow
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 18, 2013, 01:05:43 pm
I will try to Assassinate UmbrageofSnow

You must pay three coins, but only have two.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 18, 2013, 01:09:27 pm
Oh I forgot that I had to pay coins.

Sniffle. Income, unless I have to forfeit my turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 18, 2013, 01:18:39 pm
Oh I forgot that I had to pay coins.

Sniffle. Income, unless I have to forfeit my turn.

You do not

hyramgraff's turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 18, 2013, 03:43:07 pm
Income

Now it's liopoil's turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 18, 2013, 04:19:34 pm
Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 22, 2013, 10:32:18 am
I assume it succeeds again?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 22, 2013, 03:37:05 pm
Yeah, sorry. A bit behind on things.

liopoil receives 3 coins!

Grujah, you're up!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 22, 2013, 03:44:30 pm
the coup gun has been loaded... and I'll shoot it at anyone who does something that hurts me.  :D
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 23, 2013, 03:37:02 pm
Bump!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 27, 2013, 09:21:25 pm
...bump
Title: Re: Coup I (Grujah, we need jah!)
Post by: Archetype on July 29, 2013, 02:05:32 pm
ok, bump again.
Title: Re: Coup I (Grujah, we need jah!)
Post by: Grujah on July 29, 2013, 07:27:45 pm
SHit, should have PMed me, I forgot that I am in this game.

Assassin on UmbrageOfSnow.
Title: Re: Coup I (Grujah, we need jah!)
Post by: Archetype on July 29, 2013, 08:11:25 pm
Action submitted. 24 hours to get reactions/challenges in.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 29, 2013, 09:05:25 pm
wait, you drew TWO assassins? (supposedly) woah.

and TA tried to assassinate UoS too...
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 30, 2013, 02:04:37 pm
UmbrageOfSnow challenges Grujah's Assassin.

Grujah flips and reveals an Assassin. UoS was wrong!


UmbrageOfSnow, please choose a card to reveal.

Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 30, 2013, 02:50:48 pm
So snow just loses? :p
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 30, 2013, 03:58:49 pm
yeah, I think he loses both cards...
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 30, 2013, 08:26:41 pm
Snow does lose two cards because he didn't want to lie about having a Contessa to block the Assassin.

UmbrageOfSnow flips the Captain and the Duke and is now OUT OF THE GAME.

Twistedarcher, you're up! Grujah, I'll be sending your new card shortly.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 30, 2013, 09:13:30 pm
uh-oh, TA might shoot someone now! remember, I have 8 coins...
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 30, 2013, 11:15:24 pm
In the opening post, I should have 4 coins from two to start with and two income actions.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 30, 2013, 11:16:06 pm
Income
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 30, 2013, 11:48:47 pm
liopoil, you're up!

In the opening post, I should have 4 coins from two to start with and two income actions.
Ok, starting now there will be no mistakes.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on July 31, 2013, 10:06:46 am
liopoil, you're up!

I should be after TA.

Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on July 31, 2013, 08:08:54 pm
lipoil, I am currently weakest player and with most chance of dying, esp to you. So, how about an alliance?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on July 31, 2013, 08:11:38 pm
sure.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on July 31, 2013, 08:36:42 pm
liopoil, you're up!

I should be after TA.

Duke
Ok, starting....now. No more mistakes.

24 hours to get reactions in.

Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 01, 2013, 12:27:29 pm
hyramgraff plays Duke and receives 3 coins.

liopoil had a preset and says Income and receives 1 coin.

Grujah, your turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on August 01, 2013, 01:13:06 pm
Captain on Hypogryff.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 03, 2013, 10:43:23 am
Grujah plays the Captain and takes 2 coins from hyramgraff

Twistedarcher's turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 04, 2013, 08:27:06 pm
income, boring boring
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 04, 2013, 08:38:42 pm
Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 05, 2013, 11:19:13 pm
Twistedarcher says Income and receives 1 coin.

hyramgraff says Duke and receives 3 coins.

liopoil's turn. He says Ambassador.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 07, 2013, 01:35:59 pm
liopoil plays the Ambassador and draws 2 cards.

Grujah, your turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on August 12, 2013, 03:01:11 pm
Captain on hyra.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 12, 2013, 03:10:28 pm
Captain on hyra.

TA, if you block this, I will finish off Grujah.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 12, 2013, 05:59:41 pm
uh-oh.

I haven't returned two cards yet.

...should I just try to make my decision forgetting about what grujah is doing?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 12, 2013, 06:18:53 pm
uh-oh.

I haven't returned two cards yet.

...should I just try to make my decision forgetting about what grujah is doing?

Oh geez, my fault. I thought you had returned your cards.

Yes, go ahead and exchange. I don't think doing it now instead of before makes a big enough of a difference.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 12, 2013, 08:18:14 pm
okay, I'm done.
Captain on hyra.

TA, if you block this, I will finish off Grujah.
what if I block it?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 12, 2013, 10:23:42 pm
okay, I'm done.
Captain on hyra.

TA, if you block this, I will finish off Grujah.
what if I block it?

What are you asking for?  You've already agreed to an aliance with Grujah.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 13, 2013, 07:45:06 am
Alliances can be broken, especially if the other end of it doesn't get another turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 13, 2013, 12:41:36 pm
Grujah uses a Captain on hyramgraff for 2 coins.

Twistedarcher's turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 14, 2013, 01:12:59 pm
Income
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 14, 2013, 01:34:17 pm
Twistedarcher says Income and receives 1 coin.

hyramgraff, your turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 14, 2013, 02:49:49 pm
Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 14, 2013, 02:54:27 pm
hold up.

1) I think I have 9 coins, not 10.
2) what happened to the rule that you have to COUP if you have 10 or more coins? that rule was the only reason I stopped playing duke, and the reason I stopped at 9 coins...
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 14, 2013, 05:44:03 pm
hold up.

1) I think I have 9 coins, not 10.
2) what happened to the rule that you have to COUP if you have 10 or more coins? that rule was the only reason I stopped playing duke, and the reason I stopped at 9 coins...
I think you do have 9. I don't know why it says 10. I'll go look back at your actions.
That rule is still in play.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 14, 2013, 05:46:35 pm
Yep, you have nine. 3 to start and 6 through Duke.

Twistedarcher uses Duke. Actions due in 24 hours.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 14, 2013, 05:53:29 pm
wait... but I did income once. but when I did income, I thought I had 8, but I should have had nine at that point... so actually, 10 is right, but it was wrong before, and the one before was what I was basing my actions on.

anyway, 9 coins is what I wanted to have :P
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 14, 2013, 05:56:41 pm
Oh gosh. Ok, my fault. Largely I don't think there is a problem, but if someone thinks it would be, please PM me.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 14, 2013, 06:02:32 pm
Oh gosh. Ok, my fault. Largely I don't think there is a problem, but if someone thinks it would be, please PM me.

I've made my plans based on Liopoil having 10 coins.  I guess I missed the fact that he didn't order a coup last play.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 14, 2013, 06:05:02 pm
Oh man. This is what I feared. Umm...

What if liopoil has 10 coins, forcing him to launch a Coup next turn, but ignoring that he didn't launch one last turn? I think that should satisfy both parties' plan.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 14, 2013, 06:06:48 pm
I never wanted to have 10 coins though... and so I would not have done income, I would have done ambassador a turn earlier.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on August 14, 2013, 06:15:13 pm
Well, lipoils fault for not checking if his moneycount is right, I guess, so, we play as it is?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 14, 2013, 06:16:55 pm
yeah, that's fine. Not a huge deal.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 14, 2013, 07:51:33 pm
Well, ok. Grujah's right, but I still feel really bad forgetting to force you to launch a coup when you had 10 coins.  :-\ But ok. hyramgraff's turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 15, 2013, 10:43:39 am
Well, ok. Grujah's right, but I still feel really bad forgetting to force you to launch a coup when you had 10 coins.  :-\ But ok. hyramgraff's turn.

Duke (Again)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 15, 2013, 11:56:54 am
Hryamgraff uses Duke. 24 hours to get challenges in.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 16, 2013, 01:13:44 pm
hyramgraff says Duke and receives 3 coins.

liopoil, your turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 16, 2013, 01:24:10 pm
I have to coup, right? :(

Coup: TwistedArcher
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 16, 2013, 01:30:01 pm
I have to coup, right? :(

Coup: TwistedArcher
Yep :(

Twistedarcher, please flip up a card!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 18, 2013, 10:58:15 pm
Flip the Contessa.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 18, 2013, 10:59:33 pm
Twistedarcher flips up the Contessa!

Grujah, your turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on August 19, 2013, 07:57:38 am
Assassin on Hyramagraff.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 21, 2013, 03:22:14 pm
hyramgraff blocks with Contessa

24 hours to challenge
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 25, 2013, 12:40:49 pm
Thought I did this a lot earlier, sorry.

No one challenges

Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 25, 2013, 12:42:39 pm
Twistedarcher, your turn
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 25, 2013, 12:47:30 pm
Assassin Liopoil
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on August 25, 2013, 04:24:20 pm
hyramgraff blocks with Contessa

24 hours to challenge


Should have challenged, meh.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 26, 2013, 06:07:50 pm
Twistedarcher uses Assassin on liopoil.

Liopoil blocks with Contessa.

24 hours for challenges.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 26, 2013, 07:45:44 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 28, 2013, 02:45:08 am
Twistedarcher challenges liopoil. Liopoil flips up the Contessa and returns it to the deck, drawing a new card

Twistedarcher flips up the Assassin and is now out of the game!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 28, 2013, 02:53:11 am
hyramgraff, please choose someone to Coup
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 28, 2013, 08:44:06 am
um, arch, what did I draw?
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on August 28, 2013, 11:06:45 am
Coup Grujah
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Grujah on August 28, 2013, 02:19:11 pm
No, dude, we could have had lipoil!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 29, 2013, 08:16:46 pm
Backstabbery!

Grujah flips up the Assassin. He is now out of the game!

liopoil, it's your turn!
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on August 29, 2013, 10:01:50 pm
Let's see, the cards still in the game:

2 dukes
2 captains
2 contessas
3 ambassadors
0 assassins.

my turn. I have 3 coins. hyramgraff has 2.

worst case scenario, hyramgraff has a duke and a captain (though most likely a contessa).
I have a duke and a ambassador. He can't steal my coins.

I play duke
he plays duke
I play duke
he plays duke

I have 9 coins, he has 8 coins.

Scenario A:

I coup, he discards captain
he coup, I discard ambassador
I play duke
he plays duke
I play duke
He plays duke
I coup, I win.

Scenario B:

I coup, he discards duke.
He coup, I discard duke. (if I discard ambassador, he can play captain on me. This will result in him winning).
I foreign aid
He foreign aids
I foreign aid
He foreign aids
I coup, I win.


If he has two captains, and he discards one after my first coup, and I discard ambassador, he wins. however, I know he does not have 2 captains. I know this because:

A) he has never drawn any cards. So he can only have two captains if that is what his initial two cards were.
B) I had a captain at an earlier point in the game
C) UoS never drew cards either, so the captain he has can't be the same one I had.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I play Duke. gg  :)

Although, I suppose I could be lying about having a duke and ambassador. But I'm not.

Man, I got lucky to draw that duke to replace my contessa.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on August 29, 2013, 10:13:04 pm
(Post all blocks and challenges in-thread)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 01, 2013, 11:25:37 pm
liopoil takes 3 coins.

Hyramgraff, if you believe liopoil, you can resign.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on September 02, 2013, 06:00:15 pm
I'm not resigning yet.  Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on September 02, 2013, 09:45:58 pm
No challege. duke.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 02, 2013, 10:01:03 pm
hyramgraff takes 3 coins

Liopoil's turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 03, 2013, 09:38:03 pm
Bump.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on September 04, 2013, 07:35:59 am
I did say duke....

No challege. duke.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 04, 2013, 09:21:49 am
Oh. Sorry.

liopoil takes 3 coins

hyramgraff's turn.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on September 04, 2013, 10:40:07 am
Duke
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on September 04, 2013, 03:48:17 pm
no challenge, coup hyramgraff
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on September 04, 2013, 05:17:18 pm
Reveal contessa, coup liopoil
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on September 04, 2013, 05:20:54 pm
that only works on assassin.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on September 04, 2013, 05:45:10 pm
that only works on assassin.

No, I'm revealing it in response to the coup.  Then I coup you.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 04, 2013, 05:46:52 pm
hyramgraff flips up the Contessa!

liopoil, please flip up a card.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on September 04, 2013, 06:03:24 pm
oh, I see. lemme doublecheck stuff:

me: 2 coins
hyramgraff: 1 coin

If I flip duke and he has duke, then he will win.
If I flip ambassador and he has captain, then he will win.

oof, I made a mistake in my earlier analysis. I disregarded the combo contessa-_____ because I assumed that duke-captain would be worse for me no matter what, but in fact, that is not the case, because while I knew he doesn't have captain-captain or duke-duke, I can deduce what his other card is at worse by the flip... unless he has contessa. So I need to guess correctly which card he has right now.

flip ambassador. Duke.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 04, 2013, 06:38:13 pm
liopoil flips up Ambassador and says Duke. hyramgraff, challenge/not challenge then choose an action.
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: hyramgraff on September 05, 2013, 07:36:56 am
Challenge
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: liopoil on September 05, 2013, 03:57:29 pm
Reveal Duke  :)
Title: Re: Coup I
Post by: Archetype on September 05, 2013, 06:21:07 pm
liopoil returns the Duke. hyramgraff flips the Duke.

But liopoil doesn't get a new card! The game is over!

Liopoil wins!
Congratulations!

Thanks for playing everyone! This didn't go as smoothly as I hoped, partly because of me forgetting things, but it also doesn't lend itself to forum based gaming as much as I thought it would. Still, it's a fun game and I hope you all enjoyed playing it!
Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Tables on September 05, 2013, 06:52:24 pm
Thanks for playing everyone! This didn't go as smoothly as I hoped, party because of me forgetting things, but it also doesn't lend itself to forum based gaming as much as I thought it would. Still, it's a fun game and I hope you all enjoyed playing it!

...This requires at least a moderate level of people responding to most actions. I think it isn't so suited to PBF play - it'll be too heavy on checking in for so light a game.

If people want to, go ahead though. I've played before but I think you might actually find it a bit disappointing in a PBF setting.

::)

But hey, at least now we know for certain.
Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Archetype on September 05, 2013, 08:48:36 pm
Haha yes, I may have been better off taking your advice in the first place  ;D

Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Tables on September 05, 2013, 09:32:35 pm
Occasionally, my unsolicited advice is correct. Only once has it resulted in someone needing to go to hospital.

True story, don't worry it wasn't serious and I think they don't hate me(?)
Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: nkirbit on September 05, 2013, 09:36:40 pm
Occasionally, my unsolicited advice is correct. Only once has it resulted in someone needing to go to hospital.

True story, don't worry it wasn't serious and I think they don't hate me(?)

Well, now you have to tell the story!
Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Archetype on September 05, 2013, 09:49:35 pm
Occasionally, my unsolicited advice is correct. Only once has it resulted in someone needing to go to hospital.

True story, don't worry it wasn't serious and I think they don't hate me(?)

Well, now you have to tell the story!
Story Time! Story Time!
Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Archetype on September 05, 2013, 09:50:53 pm
party because of me forgetting things
Like the 'L' in partly.
Title: Re: Coup I (Game Over - Liopoil wins!)
Post by: Tables on September 06, 2013, 11:41:41 am
I gave them bad advice about how to deal with a grazed knee/leg, and it ended up getting infected.

This is why first aid certificates expire after 5 years ::)