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Title: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: yuma on April 12, 2013, 10:25:13 am
After losing six straight times to my wife--who had never heard of Innovation previously--I finally defeated her in the seventh game last night. In every game previously I was ahead by 3-4 achievements and she would come back for the win and crush me without any help from me aside from explaining the basic rules and clarifying card abilities.

On the bright side however, she now loves Innovation and is the one who asks to play it. Whereas with Dominion I have to plead with her to play it with me.
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: ksasaki on April 12, 2013, 12:59:16 pm
I frequently lose first games when I am teaching my friends.  I think part of it is I feel obligated to give them some tactics advice for the first few moves (so it is more like I am playing against myself).  Innovation is surprisingly newbie friendly though.
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Gherald on April 13, 2013, 12:40:38 am
So you're saying that beyond understanding the basic rules and strategies, innovation is 98% luck?  Unless you want to memorize and count cards, in which case you have no life?

Say it ain't so! :P
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Jimmmmm on April 13, 2013, 12:49:17 am
If it was 98% luck he wouldn't've lost 6 times in a row.
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Gherald on April 13, 2013, 01:00:38 am
Why not? Are you saying it was fate?
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Jimmmmm on April 13, 2013, 01:04:09 am
No I'm saying yuma sucks his wife is very skilled.
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Gherald on April 13, 2013, 01:07:22 am
 ::)
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 13, 2013, 02:35:00 am
If it was 98% luck he wouldn't've lost 6 times in a row.
You'd be surprised how much that 2% comes up...lol
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: yuma on April 13, 2013, 10:02:55 am
So you're saying that beyond understanding the basic rules and strategies, innovation is 98% luck?  Unless you want to memorize and count cards, in which case you have no life?

Say it ain't so! :P

No, I do think luck was involved, but luck is involved in all games to an extent. What I am saying is that my grasp of the game wasn't as great as I thought it was--and I am decently ranked on the leaderboard--whereas my wife as able to grasp some concepts very quickly. She was able to find a perfect middle ground between scoring and moving up in ages and achieving. She was also able to use some of the cards that I had normally ignored to great advantage.

And she even counted cards, kinda... She knew bicycle existed in 7 and dug for it. W/o me telling her about it she recognized the potential fermenting/bicycle combo and went for it! and won!
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Jimmmmm on April 13, 2013, 10:13:24 am
So you're saying that beyond understanding the basic rules and strategies, innovation is 98% luck?  Unless you want to memorize and count cards, in which case you have no life?

Say it ain't so! :P

No, I do think luck was involved, but luck is involved in all games to an extent. What I am saying is that my grasp of the game wasn't as great as I thought it was--and I am decently ranked on the leaderboard--whereas my wife as able to grasp some concepts very quickly. She was able to find a perfect middle ground between scoring and moving up in ages and achieving. She was also able to use some of the cards that I had normally ignored to great advantage.

And she even counted cards, kinda... She knew bicycle existed in 7 and dug for it. W/o me telling her about it she recognized the potential fermenting/bicycle combo and went for it! and won!

Don't ever let her go.
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: jonts26 on April 13, 2013, 11:56:39 am
If it was 98% luck he wouldn't've lost 6 times in a row.
You'd be surprised how much that 2% comes up...lol

I'd guess about 2% of the time.
Title: Re: I think my wife has a secret isotropic life
Post by: Razzishi on April 14, 2013, 03:26:33 pm
If it was 98% luck he wouldn't've lost 6 times in a row.
You'd be surprised how much that 2% comes up...lol

I'd guess about 2% of the time.

Nah, I'd say more like once every fifty times.