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Title: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: teasel on March 18, 2013, 10:59:17 am
when selecting a card if you hover over it with your cursor and you have equal or less symbols than your opponent a ! pops out,can't believe it took me this long to notice it
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 18, 2013, 11:00:42 am
It also does the same if your non-demand effects are going to be shared.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: marco2012 on March 18, 2013, 12:28:38 pm
That's true. However, it cannot check whether city state works......
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 18, 2013, 12:40:07 pm
Well no, it doesn't check exactly whether a dogma will have any meaningful effects. It just has a look at the icon counts for you in case you forgot to look for yourself.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Awaclus on March 18, 2013, 12:48:36 pm
I noticed it the first time I played Innovation. It hasn't prevented me from clicking the card though.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Razzishi on March 18, 2013, 10:53:55 pm
Thank you for finally letting me know why sometimes that exclamation mark appeared!  I was very curious!
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: gryph202 on March 19, 2013, 09:01:09 am
I noticed it the first time I played Innovation. It hasn't prevented me from clicking the card though.

As well it shouldn't, IMO.  There are times when it is not only strategically sound, but desirable to share an effect.  For example, if you share an effect that exchanges cards from a zone but there are no cards there to exchange, it still won't do anything to your opponent.  And if you force your opponent to meld a card against their wishes, you have a chance of covering a top card that your opponent may not want covered.  There is lots and lots of a strategic nuance.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Grujah on March 19, 2013, 09:32:09 am
I noticed it the first time I played Innovation. It hasn't prevented me from clicking the card though.

As well it shouldn't, IMO.  There are times when it is not only strategically sound, but desirable to share an effect.  For example, if you share an effect that exchanges cards from a zone but there are no cards there to exchange, it still won't do anything to your opponent.  And if you force your opponent to meld a card against their wishes, you have a chance of covering a top card that your opponent may not want covered.  There is lots and lots of a strategic nuance.

Pet Peeve: Sharing Physics when they have a full hand.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Awaclus on March 19, 2013, 09:39:03 am
I noticed it the first time I played Innovation. It hasn't prevented me from clicking the card though.

As well it shouldn't, IMO.  There are times when it is not only strategically sound, but desirable to share an effect.  For example, if you share an effect that exchanges cards from a zone but there are no cards there to exchange, it still won't do anything to your opponent.  And if you force your opponent to meld a card against their wishes, you have a chance of covering a top card that your opponent may not want covered.  There is lots and lots of a strategic nuance.
Of course it shouldn't. My point was, no matter how much I am aware of the exclamation mark, I often miss it.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: Gherald on March 19, 2013, 01:41:30 pm
I often miss it as well and that's why I wrote this little script last night (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=7445.0) : )
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: SirPeebles on March 19, 2013, 02:24:42 pm
This is cool!  Isotropic doesn't display well on my computer, and in particularly I can't view my opponent's icon count in the top corner on my turn (since the draw button bumps it off screen).  This is certainly more convenient than counting each time.
Title: Re: an easy way to check if your i demand effect are going to work
Post by: yaron on March 19, 2013, 02:55:52 pm
This is cool!  Isotropic doesn't display well on my computer, and in particularly I can't view my opponent's icon count in the top corner on my turn (since the draw button bumps it off screen).  This is certainly more convenient than counting each time.
I have the same problem.  You can solve it by playing at 90% zoom ( Ctrl/- ).