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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: popsofctown on March 15, 2013, 05:05:04 pm

Title: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: popsofctown on March 15, 2013, 05:05:04 pm
Or, I don't know, maybe they can shut it down, legally.  But it would be such a classless move they are unlikely to do it.  Because you generally have to purchase official product to do it.

I'd like to point out, for the people that don't want to play on Goko, there is another way you can use the internet to play Dominion through the internet - Skype voice chat.  I've played several games this way, maybe 8.  They run smoother than you might expect.

Experimentation revealed that using a camera to play the game is kind of hard, but what works rather well is to simply recite things that are happening as you play.  It's like the iso text log, except audio instead of written.  Whenever your opponent announces a purchase, you just remove a card on your end from the game. 

Skype offers:
Official card art!
Voice and text chat!
Full card customization!
Preserved sessions on disconnect!
Unlimited custom card usage and nearly 100% correct rules enforcement!

Somewhat facetious.  But anyway, I encourage you guys to give it a shot.  People like me that don't want to pay twice for the game can play all they want this way.

Send me a pm, anyone, if you're interested in playing with me.  Or just use the thread to bash playing by Skype before you try it.  Whichever.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: buggy on March 15, 2013, 05:10:02 pm
You could also do this in a Google Hangout...
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: GendoIkari on March 15, 2013, 05:13:34 pm
This removes almost every advantage that playing online has....

-Fast setup time
-Faster play time
-Not having to count up points at the end
-Faster cleanup time
-Not having to own all the actual sets (Goko sets are way cheaper than real sets, and only 1 player needs to own them)

The one online-advantage it retains is the ability to play against people who aren't physically near you. But if I were going to play with real cards, I would rather play with a group of friends IRL every time.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: DStu on March 15, 2013, 05:21:32 pm
Do they have a point counter?
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: popsofctown on March 15, 2013, 05:43:32 pm
You could also do this in a Google Hangout...
6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

This removes almost every advantage that playing online has....

-Fast setup time
-Faster play time
-Not having to count up points at the end
-Faster cleanup time
-Not having to own all the actual sets (Goko sets are way cheaper than real sets, and only 1 player needs to own them)

The one online-advantage it retains is the ability to play against people who aren't physically near you. But if I were going to play with real cards, I would rather play with a group of friends IRL every time.
I'm not suggesting everyone go buy all the physical sets to save money on Goko.  There's people who already have all the sets, or all the sets they enjoy playing. 
You can also get away with a little proxying for the cards you don't have.
If you have friends nearby who are good at dominion and enjoy playing with you, why in the name of Rats are you playing online anyway?
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: popsofctown on March 15, 2013, 05:45:01 pm
Do they have a point counter?
Does Goko?  It wouldn't be hard to track your points in Notepad or something.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: SirPeebles on March 15, 2013, 05:46:52 pm
I suppose this wouldn't work so well with Masquerade unless you're willing to make the choice of cards public or stick to two player games.

Otherwise, so long as everyone is honest it should work out.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: popsofctown on March 15, 2013, 05:51:00 pm
3 player Masqeurade works if you personal message your opponents, which skype supports.  Admittedly it's a pain.  But, mostly you want to be playing 2 player.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: clb on March 15, 2013, 06:15:09 pm
You could also do this in a Google Hangout...
6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

This removes almost every advantage that playing online has....

-Fast setup time
-Faster play time
-Not having to count up points at the end
-Faster cleanup time
-Not having to own all the actual sets (Goko sets are way cheaper than real sets, and only 1 player needs to own them)

The one online-advantage it retains is the ability to play against people who aren't physically near you. But if I were going to play with real cards, I would rather play with a group of friends IRL every time.
If you have friends nearby who are good at dominion and enjoy playing with you, why in the name of Rats are you playing online anyway?
These seem like good reasons:
-Fast setup time
-Faster play time
-Not having to count up points at the end
-Faster cleanup time
-Not having to own all the actual sets
But, then, also, my friends aren't always available for a quick game or two Tuesday night at 930.
That being said, I consider myself lucky to get to play IRL with friends at least twice a month.

Edit: we may give your suggestion a try for playing with my geographically dispersed family.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: popsofctown on March 15, 2013, 06:17:08 pm
You can't put a price on friendship, though.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: ashersky on March 15, 2013, 06:56:07 pm
Can you convince me Skype is a good site, security-wise?
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: SirPeebles on March 15, 2013, 07:00:11 pm
Can you convince me Skype is a good site, security-wise?

I've heard that when you use Skype, others may be able to see you.  Like, through your computer.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: Ozle on March 15, 2013, 07:52:15 pm
You can't put a price on friendship, though.

Tell that to Mei Ling, she charges me a fortune!
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: Obi Wan Bonogi on March 15, 2013, 08:27:17 pm
Reminds me of the old days playing Magic: The Gathering online verus other people by finding an opponent in a chat room then typing out what we did each turn on AOL Instant Messenger.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: Kirian on March 15, 2013, 08:49:38 pm
Somewhat facetious.  But anyway, I encourage you guys to give it a shot.  People like me that don't want to pay twice for the game can play all they want this way.

Send me a pm, anyone, if you're interested in playing with me.  Or just use the thread to bash playing by Skype before you try it.  Whichever.

I have no interesting in bashing playing by Skype, which sounds like it'd be interesting.

I do want to bash you for using the "paying twice" fallacy.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: Fabian on March 15, 2013, 08:51:21 pm
Reminds me of the old days playing Magic: The Gathering online verus other people by finding an opponent in a chat room then typing out what we did each turn on AOL Instant Messenger.

And here I thought Apprentice qualified as the old days :(
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: dondon151 on March 16, 2013, 05:12:08 pm
Reminds me of the old days playing Magic: The Gathering online verus other people by finding an opponent in a chat room then typing out what we did each turn on AOL Instant Messenger.

Or when people battled Pokemon over IRC.
Title: Re: The online option Goko won't shut down
Post by: werothegreat on March 16, 2013, 05:30:50 pm
Reminds me of the old days playing Magic: The Gathering online verus other people by finding an opponent in a chat room then typing out what we did each turn on AOL Instant Messenger.

Or when people battled Pokemon over IRC.

Back in the old days, we had to click every crop we harvested in FarmVille!