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Title: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 11, 2012, 10:40:12 pm
In light of all this number-y games, one that I wanted to host before:

- Each player starts with 1000 coins
- Every round, you must PM me with the number of coins you wish to spend (integers only)
- The player who spends the lowest number of coins is out
- The player who submits the second lowest will get those coins back
- If a tie occurs, both players will be eliminated/get their coins back
- Deadlines will be 48 hours
- Last man standing wins!

- If you miss a deadline, you will spend one coin less then the highest submitter, unless that would make you get your coins back. In that case, you spend one more coin then the highest submitter. In both cases, you will receive a strike.
- If you receive 3 strikes, you're out

I guess these two rules too, but I'd like it more if it doesn't come to this.




Checking interests, signups and so on..

Insofar:

Tables 1000
cayvie 1000
Galzria 1000
Archetype 1000
sparky 1000
Jimmmmmm 1000
SFS 1000
Schneau 1000
shraeye 1000
liopoil 1000
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Tables on December 11, 2012, 11:06:50 pm
Yeah, sure.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Galzria on December 11, 2012, 11:08:08 pm
In. Is purse size updated and public or not?
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: cayvie on December 11, 2012, 11:16:01 pm
sure, i'll be in
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Archetype on December 11, 2012, 11:20:14 pm
I'll /in

Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: sparky5856 on December 12, 2012, 02:10:24 am
lol /in
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Grujah on December 12, 2012, 02:39:32 am
In. Is purse size updated and public or not?

After each round, I post who played how much, who loses/who gets money back, and new coin tally.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 12, 2012, 07:59:08 am
Sure why not /in
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 12, 2012, 08:56:33 am
How many players are you going to allow? (Potential length of game would determine my interest level.)
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Grujah on December 12, 2012, 09:10:34 am
My aim is 10-ish or more, but I'll probably keep signups open till Friday and than all that /inned will play. I it might go faster than 48hour par day if people submit quick, and especially in later rounds.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 12, 2012, 09:38:52 am
OK, I'm in.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Schneau on December 12, 2012, 09:44:13 am
/in
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: shraeye on December 12, 2012, 04:21:01 pm
sounds good; /in
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 12, 2012, 04:33:14 pm
SFS, Schneau, and Shraeye make 7, 8 and 9 players.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: shraeye on December 12, 2012, 04:51:11 pm
SFS, Schneau, and Shraeye make 7, 8 and 9 players.
The three S players, yay!
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: liopoil on December 12, 2012, 05:33:49 pm
in!
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 13, 2012, 08:06:51 am
that would make 10.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Grujah on December 13, 2012, 01:50:55 pm
I'll start tomorrow Morning (GMT+1), you other guys have time to sign up till then, rest of you feel free to submit early if you want (some already did).
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: shraeye on December 13, 2012, 02:04:55 pm
So do we need to submit now, or when is the deadline?
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 13, 2012, 02:51:43 pm
So do we need to submit now, or when is the deadline?
This.  I don't want to submit a first action until I know the final number of players.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Grujah on December 13, 2012, 08:09:36 pm
Game starts tomorrow morning. Deadline is that time +48 hours.
Title: Re: Coin Game (signups)
Post by: Grujah on December 14, 2012, 03:45:19 am
Of we go!:

Scores:

Tables 1000
cayvie 1000
Galzria 1000
Archetype 1000
sparky 1000
Jimmmmmm 1000
SFS 1000
Schneau 1000
shraeye 1000
liopoil 1000
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 14, 2012, 04:36:35 am
Tally:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhocBduPnx8KdGFfbmJGeDhLVHdER0h1ZUNWcHV3Rnc
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 14, 2012, 07:37:07 am
Entry sent by PM
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 14, 2012, 05:50:07 pm
Fixed access to google.docs. Waiting for sparky now :D
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: sparky5856 on December 14, 2012, 10:37:07 pm
Message has been sent. You're all going down. >:D
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Tables on December 14, 2012, 10:48:52 pm
Correction: All but one of us are going down.

- The player who submits the second lowest will get those coins back

You're just getting eliminated.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 15, 2012, 08:19:16 am
Round 1:
sparky   282
Archetype   220
shraeye   122
Jimmmmmm   103
Schneau   99
liopoil   84
Tables   75
Galzria   51
SwitchedFromStarcraft   44
Cayvie   40

Cayvie is out. Sorry mate :(
SFS gets his coins back!

Coins left:
SwitchedFromStarcraft   1000
Galzria   949
Tables   925
liopoil   916
Schneau   901
Jimmmmmm   897
shraeye   878
Archetype   780
sparky   718

Round two starts! 48 hours left.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhocBduPnx8KdGFfbmJGeDhLVHdER0h1ZUNWcHV3Rnc#gid=0
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 15, 2012, 10:40:29 am
Round 2 PM sent
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 16, 2012, 04:36:46 pm
Waiting for shra to submit, and they we're fine.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 16, 2012, 04:58:30 pm
Archetype   100
liopoil   98
Jimmmmmm   93
shraeye   78
SwitchedFromStarcraft   69
Tables   58
sparky   57
Galzria   55
Schneau   1 (had higher amount, decided to suicide)

Schneau suicided, 8 left! Galz gets money back.

Galzria   949
SwitchedFromStarcraft   931
Tables   867
liopoil   818
Jimmmmmm   804
shraeye   800
Archetype   680
sparky   661

Round 3 starts, lasts 48 hours.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Ozle on December 16, 2012, 05:01:08 pm
Lucky Lucky Galz then...
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: liopoil on December 16, 2012, 08:04:36 pm
Three people from 58-54! wow. Surprised by the low numbers. Interesting game.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Archetype on December 16, 2012, 08:08:42 pm
And I thought I was too low...  :-[
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: sparky5856 on December 17, 2012, 03:51:03 pm
I iz not amused.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 17, 2012, 03:59:57 pm
left to submit: shra, SFS, Galz.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: shraeye on December 17, 2012, 04:06:55 pm
left to submit: shra, SFS, Galz.
Wait, did I submite already, or did I just imagine that?  Send me a PM, and I"ll get around to it tongiht, frightfully busy right now.  apparrently too busy to type well.
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 17, 2012, 04:58:23 pm
left to submit: shra, SFS, Galz.
Sorry, sending now. (Mafia started, and I love hate gotta play my mafia
Title: Re: Coin Game (OF WE GO!)
Post by: Grujah on December 18, 2012, 01:18:43 am
Galzria   85
liopoil   76
SwitchedFromStarcraft   71
Archetype   70
Jimmmmmm   68
shraeye   68
Tables   58
sparky   55

bye, sparky :(
Tables gets 58 back.

Tables   867
Galzria   864
SwitchedFromStarcraft   860
liopoil   742
Jimmmmmm   736
shraeye   732
Archetype   610
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 18, 2012, 01:26:38 am
Meh, just saw that this rule sucks:
"If a tie occurs, both players will be eliminated/get their coins back"

Should have been:
"3a. If there is a tie for the fewest coins, all players involved in the tie get their coins back and have to submit again.
4a. If there is a tie for the second-fewest coins, all players involved in the tie get x/n coins back, where x is the number of coins they spent and n is the number of players involved in the tie."

But well, I guess we'll play by the first set-up rule this time.

48 hours left to submit.
Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhocBduPnx8KdGFfbmJGeDhLVHdER0h1ZUNWcHV3Rnc#gid=0
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 18, 2012, 10:32:41 am
I'd be fine with switching the rules. Unless had this rule been known from the start people would have submitted quite a bit differently.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 19, 2012, 07:13:02 am
left to submit:
shra, Galz,Arch, SFS, Jimmmmmm - common, blitzers.

Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 19, 2012, 09:07:45 am
I sent in days ago..... Like, within the hour of the last results... Checking...
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 19, 2012, 09:09:40 am
FAIL Mod!

Redacted
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 19, 2012, 09:10:51 am
Although I guess it was 7 hours after the last results, not "within one".


 ;)
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 19, 2012, 09:11:56 am
It was Arch, not you. Fix'd.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 19, 2012, 09:13:16 am
It was Arch, not you. Fix'd.

Well, now you have to deal with an extra PM in your inbox, so  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 19, 2012, 03:16:24 pm
left to submit:
shra, Galz,Arch, SFS, Jimmmmmm - common, blitzers.
Sent now.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 19, 2012, 03:18:07 pm
Meh, just saw that this rule sucks:
"If a tie occurs, both players will be eliminated/get their coins back"
I'll adjust my meta on you, since now I know you don't read the rules in you own game.   :)
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 4 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 19, 2012, 03:21:08 pm
Tables   73
Jimmmmmm   73
liopoil   71
shraeye   70
SwitchedFromStarcraft   69
Galzria   65
Archetype   60

Say goodbye to Archetype :(
Galz gets his money back, again.

Scoring table:
Galzria   864
Tables   794
SwitchedFromStarcraft   791
liopoil   671
Jimmmmmm   663
shraeye   662

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhocBduPnx8KdGFfbmJGeDhLVHdER0h1ZUNWcHV3Rnc#gid=0
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 5 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 19, 2012, 03:21:43 pm
Round 5 starts.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 5 starts)
Post by: Archetype on December 19, 2012, 07:01:11 pm
Darn. Knew I should have put 70!
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 5 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 20, 2012, 09:29:45 am
Galzria   85
Jimmmmmm   74
Tables   69
liopoil   69
SwitchedFromStarcraft   68
shraeye   68

As per original rools, SFS and shra are out, lipoil and Tables get their money worth back.

Standings:
Tables   794
Galzria   779
liopoil   687
Jimmmmmm   589

Of we got with Round 6.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2012, 10:02:41 am
noooooooo!
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 20, 2012, 10:17:24 am
wow. that was close.... well this is intense now....
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Davio on December 20, 2012, 10:20:28 am
I guess with 2 players remaining the one with the most coins automatically wins?

This makes the round of 3 especially interesting.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 20, 2012, 10:35:48 am
yes, and this round of four you set up for the round of three, while not getting eliminated. In theory it seems like the amount of coins wagered should increase each round, but I'm not sure about that...
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 20, 2012, 10:42:41 am
And now the gaming talk begins... Will he bet high? Will he bet low? Can sometime be tricked out?

We'll just have to wait and see...
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 5 starts)
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 20, 2012, 10:46:40 am
Galzria   85
Jimmmmmm   74
Tables   69
liopoil   69
SwitchedFromStarcraft   68
shraeye   68

As per original rools, SFS and shra are out, lipoil and Tables get their money worth back.

Standings:
Tables   794
Galzria   779
liopoil   687
Jimmmmmm   589

Of we got with Round 6.
And I originally typed 69 in the PM, changed it to 68.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Davio on December 20, 2012, 11:28:39 am
yes, and this round of four you set up for the round of three, while not getting eliminated. In theory it seems like the amount of coins wagered should increase each round, but I'm not sure about that...
Well, I expected the amounts of coins to be higher for the previous rounds since betting highest is still way better than getting eliminated, but everyone tries to walk the fine line.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 20, 2012, 12:00:17 pm
You have to walk the fine line. Lets say you don't, but everyone else does. You'll make it to the end, and everyone but one of the other people will lose before then. But that one person will have more coins left than you, and will win
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Tables on December 20, 2012, 12:59:29 pm
Haha, well, I think I'm happy with my position now. I'll be betting 80 coins this round.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Tables on December 20, 2012, 12:59:43 pm
[/lies]
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 20, 2012, 01:05:59 pm
I bet 2. I'm banking on another suicide.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 20, 2012, 02:23:25 pm
galzria and tables seem like the only main contenders. I'm Having trouble seeing how jimmmmmm or I could win. You'd have to both die pretty much, or one of us two gets our coins back twice.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Ozle on December 20, 2012, 02:26:41 pm
galzria and tables seem like the only main contenders. I'm Having trouble seeing how jimmmmmm or I could win. You'd have to both die pretty much, or one of us two gets our coins back twice.

Well, as long as you both out bid them on the next two rounds thats possible....
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 20, 2012, 02:30:30 pm
galzria and tables seem like the only main contenders. I'm Having trouble seeing how jimmmmmm or I could win. You'd have to both die pretty much, or one of us two gets our coins back twice.

Well, as long as you both out bid them on the next two rounds thats possible....

I'm pretty much out this turn away, I think. Trying to be too fancy in the hopes of catching Tables up. Can't let him have a lead after next round.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Tables on December 20, 2012, 11:12:26 pm
I think the next round is where stuff could get crazy. Really nobody is safe in this round... I think this game could be much more interesting if it were played over multiple rounds, with points depending on how far you get, rather than a winner takes all.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 21, 2012, 06:39:19 am
lipoil 87
Tables 80
Jimmmm: 75
Galzria: 75

Tables  794
lipoil 600

Tables wins!

Little anticlimatic, next time, different tiebreakers.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2012, 06:49:54 am
Anticlimatic?! Thats about as exciting as this game is going to get surely?

And just think Galz, 76 and you would have been in the lead....
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 21, 2012, 08:44:58 am
Knew I should have gone just higher than round numbers.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 21, 2012, 09:06:27 am
I think I should have pmed jimmm and arranged for us both to bid over 85 or so. That's the best way to give us both a chance in the round of 3.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 21, 2012, 09:07:34 am
Little anticlimatic, next time, different tiebreakers.

Does this entail that there will be a next time?
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 21, 2012, 09:08:16 am
I think you should allow bargaining and deal-making.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: shraeye on December 21, 2012, 09:45:08 am
I think you should allow bargaining and deal-making.
I agree, this would be hilarious.

Also, would the new rules have changed the outcomes for this game?
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Galzria on December 21, 2012, 09:46:09 am
galzria and tables seem like the only main contenders. I'm Having trouble seeing how jimmmmmm or I could win. You'd have to both die pretty much, or one of us two gets our coins back twice.

Well, as long as you both out bid them on the next two rounds thats possible....

I'm pretty much out this turn away, I think. Trying to be too fancy in the hopes of catching Tables up. Can't let him have a lead after next round.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 21, 2012, 09:46:36 am
yes.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Davio on December 21, 2012, 01:14:09 pm
It was pretty climactic with Tables pulling the old double bluff, saying he'll bet 80 and doing it and winning. :)
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Tables on December 21, 2012, 01:20:40 pm
Haha, yep.

Hadn't seen that coming. Hadn't been expecting to win this one, actually. Well, that's nice, I suppose.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: liopoil on December 21, 2012, 01:46:23 pm
I think this game could be much more interesting if it were played over multiple rounds, with points depending on how far you get, rather than a winner takes all.

Then people would probably bet a lot more each round, and would actually use up all their coins by the end. I mean, I lost with 600 coins left....

did anyone here have any real strategy? I know I just estimated what I could survive with each round...
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Tables on December 21, 2012, 02:35:08 pm
I think this game could be much more interesting if it were played over multiple rounds, with points depending on how far you get, rather than a winner takes all.

Then people would probably bet a lot more each round, and would actually use up all their coins by the end. I mean, I lost with 600 coins left....

did anyone here have any real strategy? I know I just estimated what I could survive with each round...

Nope. First round was kinda, what do I think people will go for, how low can I go, then it was kinda, just bet a little more than I wanted to for safety, and it got me right near the bottom a few times.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Grujah on December 22, 2012, 01:10:23 am
It was pretty climactic with Tables pulling the old double bluff, saying he'll bet 80 and doing it and winning. :)

Table's PM:
"Whoops, forgot to close the lies tag in another lies tag."
Though everybody but jim already submitted at that time.
Title: Re: Coin Game (Round 6 starts)
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 22, 2012, 02:28:12 am
I didn't even read his post.