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Title: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 03, 2012, 07:50:37 pm
Well first of all, how many people here watch Survivor? I do, and got thinking: This would be interesting as an online game. But could it work? I don't know.

It would be fairly easy to replicate everything about the game except the physical challenges, stranded on an island, and hunger pains. Everything else should be easy to model.

Here's what I'm envisioning how they game would work: (rough outline)

16 players, divided into 2 teams of 8 people each. Each team (called 'tribe' in Survivor) is given a QT that only members of the team have access to (and spectators). All members of the QT can post freely in it, and will need to converse with one another to figure out challenges, etc.

Each 'game day' is broken up into 5 phases:

Morning Chat Session:
Players can talk as much as they want in-thread OR they can privately communicate with other players.
Challenge: Since physical challenges are impossible to do online, a mental challenge will be posted in both the threads for the members to solve. First tribe to solve it, does not have to kick a member of their team off. Private Communication is shut off in this phase.
Afternoon Chat Session: Players can, once again, talk freely in thread or privately communicate with other players to make plans.
Tribal Council: The members who lost the challenge will visit 'Tribal Council'. Private Communication will be shut off. Players are required to speak in-thread about opinions for a little bit. Then I will 'lock the thread' and voting will commence. The player with the most votes is out of the game. Winning team will skip this phase and go directly to night.
Night: All forms of communication are shutoff. I'll be doing some bookkeeping stuff/talk with co-mods.

Cycle will continue until there are 8 players left between the 2 groups. Then the 2 groups will merge to one central thread. Same cycle as above, except with the following tweaks:
-Only a single person can win Challenges. No votes can be put on them.
-Tribal Council is required. Someone will be out each game. This player will NOT be out of the game though. They'll be put in the 'Jury' QT where they can talk with fellow members who've died during the 8 player merge. These players will decide the winner.


Cycle with the tweaks will continue until there are 3 players left. Then, we decide the winner.

-Active players post 1 last time, anything they want to say to the Jury in-thread. This is sent to the mod first, and then they post each player's final words in succession.
-Jury members then vote for who they want to win the game. Whoever gets the most votes, wins the game!

And then the game's over.

Some Mechanics in detail:

Private Communication:
Players can communicate with other players in their tribe outside the thread by PMing them. They must send PMs to both that player, and the mod (for both bookkeeping and lol moments post-game). Players can talk about whatever they want, but can only talk after during chat sessions.

Voting:
Votes will be sent privately to the mod. Once all votes are collected, they will be posted in-thread (not who voted for who, just the total votes). Whoever has the most votes is out of the game (pre-Jury) or wins (post-Jury).

Players that are out of the game:
Players are considered 'Dead' when they are voted out during the 2 tribe period. They cannot post in any other thread other than the Spectator QT. Players that die when there are 8 players left, are sent to the Jury QT where they can talk with other Jury members. They cannot talk in thread either.

There is also another mechanic I want to implement that should make this even more like the real game:

Each player that actually plays Survivor on the TV show has actual skills, right? So players here should have some 'skills' too.

Searching Skill:
1/6 chance of finding Hidden Immunity Idol each night(most fans should know what this is)

Whispering Skill:
Can send 1 message during no-chat periods.

Spying Skill:
Choose a player. You'll overhear one of their conversations and be sent one of the messages they sent during Chat Periods.

Investigative Skill:
Choose a player. You'll be told what 'skills' they possess.

etc, etc.

Each team would have 1 of each of the skills. They can claim at the beginning, or choose to keep their skills secret.

Skills thing may or may not work, but I feel it would make the game more interesting.

--

Anyway, just a random idea I had. Wondering if we could implement it/enough interest in it. There would of course need to be 1, 2 or even 3 mods to keep everything under control. But it would be fun, just take a while.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on December 03, 2012, 07:52:17 pm
in without reading anything but the first sentence. one of my favorite shows when i was a kid.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 03, 2012, 07:53:13 pm
I have been thinking about this same thing. I haven't even read your post but I am a HUGE, like ridiculously huge fan of Survivor. So I'd love to help make this idea happen and would probably be /in.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 03, 2012, 07:54:04 pm
Glad I'm not the only Survivor fanboy.  ;D
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 03, 2012, 07:59:19 pm
Potential problems: the challenges should be a bit varied to be fun, which could be a bit tough (some of these could probably be Dominion. Sure, some people are better than others, but the physically strongest people don't always win survivor). There also could be a problem with timing and time zones if the only goal for challenges is time-based.

In Survivor, the players don't know each other at all. Here, we have twin-claims and people already know each other from playing dominion together and other forum games. It could potentially be a big disadvantage for new players.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 03, 2012, 08:04:14 pm
Potential problems: the challenges should be a bit varied to be fun, which could be a bit tough (some of these could probably be Dominion. Sure, some people are better than others, but the physically strongest people don't always win survivor). There also could be a problem with timing and time zones if the only goal for challenges is time-based.

In Survivor, the players don't know each other at all. Here, we have twin-claims and people already know each other from playing dominion together and other forum games. It could potentially be a big disadvantage for new players.
True. I feel the Timezone and Challenges are going to be the hardest to deal with.

We could spread out player based on Time Zones, so that at least 1 member from each team is online.

Twin-Claiming would be difficult but it hopefully shouldn't be too bad. They just have to make sure they don't even mention the game outside the thread.

Another thing about the threads: Would 2 QTs be needed for each Tribe? Or could theory potentially make 2 threads, only allowing certain members be able to view them.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 03, 2012, 08:06:52 pm
Potential problems: the challenges should be a bit varied to be fun, which could be a bit tough (some of these could probably be Dominion. Sure, some people are better than others, but the physically strongest people don't always win survivor). There also could be a problem with timing and time zones if the only goal for challenges is time-based.

In Survivor, the players don't know each other at all. Here, we have twin-claims and people already know each other from playing dominion together and other forum games. It could potentially be a big disadvantage for new players.
True. I feel the Timezone and Challenges are going to be the hardest to deal with.

We could spread out player based on Time Zones, so that at least 1 member from each team is online.

Twin-Claiming would be difficult but it hopefully shouldn't be too bad. They just have to make sure they don't even mention the game outside the thread.

Another thing about the threads: Would 2 QTs be needed for each Tribe? Or could theory potentially make 2 threads, only allowing certain members be able to view them.

I think maybe this could be solved by just letting people pm each other and if they want to PM multiple people, they can go for it. And if you want to respond to everyone, just hit "reply all." I don't think multiple QTs would be necessary.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 03, 2012, 08:14:48 pm
True, but I'd rather have players converse with one another in-thread for challenges and the like. So they can see which players are helping the tribe, and which players are hindering it.

Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 03, 2012, 08:17:26 pm
True, but I'd rather have players converse with one another in-thread for challenges and the like. So they can see which players are helping the tribe, and which players are hindering it.

Yeah this seems like a good idea, something's gotta be in-thread, right? Although there probably shouldn't be tons and tons of interaction between the two teams. (Just heckling! ;D)
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: eHalcyon on December 03, 2012, 08:26:49 pm
Potential problems: the challenges should be a bit varied to be fun, which could be a bit tough (some of these could probably be Dominion. Sure, some people are better than others, but the physically strongest people don't always win survivor). There also could be a problem with timing and time zones if the only goal for challenges is time-based.

In Survivor, the players don't know each other at all. Here, we have twin-claims and people already know each other from playing dominion together and other forum games. It could potentially be a big disadvantage for new players.

Incoming: subgames of Mafia, Resistance, GoF, etc.

Another challenge suggestion -- The Amazing Race: everyone must record videos of themselves playing QWOP.  Best distance wins the challenge.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Axxle on December 03, 2012, 08:35:57 pm
Not sure how easy it is to follow after the fact but here's a Survivor game done by some mafiascum guys: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Seafoam_Islands/index.php?

I wasn't in that one, but I signed up for a later one that's still ongoing.  I probably wouldn't do it again since I'm not a huge fan of the social aspect of how alliances are formed.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 12:58:36 am
WOAH. I don't know how I missed this thread.

I AM A SURVIVOR SUPER FAN. I've never missed an episode.

I've actually applied to be on, like, 5 times or something.

Are you watching the current season? It's really good; very strong cast.

Anyway, the most difficult thing about playing this online--which, by the way, I am totally IN for--is the challenges. I would suggest Dominion games for one thing, obviously. You know, you could implement other online games though. (Like, who can solve a Colourshift puzzle first? Every played Colourshift? It's great: http://www.kongregate.com/games/mrsneeze/colourshift
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 04, 2012, 01:12:29 am
WOAH. I don't know how I missed this thread.

I AM A SURVIVOR SUPER FAN. I've never missed an episode.

I've actually applied to be on, like, 5 times or something.

Are you watching the current season? It's really good; very strong cast.

Anyway, the most difficult thing about playing this online--which, by the way, I am totally IN for--is the challenges. I would suggest Dominion games for one thing, obviously. You know, you could implement other online games though. (Like, who can solve a Colourshift puzzle first? Every played Colourshift? It's great: http://www.kongregate.com/games/mrsneeze/colourshift

Why am I not surprised that fellow forum games addicts are Survivor addicts too?

This has gotta happen guys. We have got to get forum Survivor off the ground. I really love the current season too. We should take this discussion somewhere else but which seasons are your favorites? I am not always a huge fan of when they bring people back but I think Heros Vs. Villans was one of the best that I've ever seen. Anyway anyway. Now you've got me addicted to colorshifting too.

Also, get on Survivor. It would be so cool to say that I sorta-kinda know someone on that show! (Actually I'm like 2 degrees of separation from Matt from Redemption Island.)
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 04, 2012, 01:14:42 am
/in
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Galzria on December 04, 2012, 01:20:00 am
Never watched a single episode.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 01:29:21 am
WOAH. I don't know how I missed this thread.

I AM A SURVIVOR SUPER FAN. I've never missed an episode.

I've actually applied to be on, like, 5 times or something.

Are you watching the current season? It's really good; very strong cast.

Anyway, the most difficult thing about playing this online--which, by the way, I am totally IN for--is the challenges. I would suggest Dominion games for one thing, obviously. You know, you could implement other online games though. (Like, who can solve a Colourshift puzzle first? Every played Colourshift? It's great: http://www.kongregate.com/games/mrsneeze/colourshift

Why am I not surprised that fellow forum games addicts are Survivor addicts too?

This has gotta happen guys. We have got to get forum Survivor off the ground. I really love the current season too. We should take this discussion somewhere else but which seasons are your favorites? I am not always a huge fan of when they bring people back but I think Heros Vs. Villans was one of the best that I've ever seen. Anyway anyway. Now you've got me addicted to colorshifting too.

Also, get on Survivor. It would be so cool to say that I sorta-kinda know someone on that show! (Actually I'm like 2 degrees of separation from Matt from Redemption Island.)

Was he the long blond haired Christian young guy?

I'm always rooting against the other long blond haired young guys, because I feel like each of them has taken a spot on the show that should have been mine.

This season is oddly good. last season started out okay, but then fizzled when that one girl--Kim, I think--just completely dominated it. I like most of the players they bring back, though on occasion it gets annoying (I don't care for Ozzy, for one thing). Heroes Vs. Villains was the best season hands down, of course. How could it not be? At the time, Russel, Parvati, and Sandra were the best three to ever play the game, and they got to face off! I wanted Parv to win, but you can't argue with Sandra's social game.

As far as the current season goes, just a really strong cast. I really like Penner. Denise and Malcom are instant favorites, it would shock me if they don't come back. Abby is a terrific villain, she's just so insane. And the old actress lady has sort of proven herself.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on December 04, 2012, 03:42:02 am
I think I watched season 4 and around there when I was young. So don't obviously know anyone. If I were to try it again now, what season would you recommend? I obviously wouldn't know any of the characters beforehand.

There is a ton of stuff you can do for challenges if you get creative. Could be posting pictures of something irl-y, online games, etc. Mod just basically needs to be awesome. I want to start this soon!!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 04:13:58 am
in without reading anything but the first sentence. one of my favorite shows when i was a kid.

Anyone else feeling old now?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: cayvie on December 04, 2012, 05:14:28 am
in without reading anything but the first sentence. one of my favorite shows when i was a kid.

Anyone else feeling old now?

haha

im 28

28 goddammit im not old

im not old

(im not)

(really)

(look at me elide these apostrophes)
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Lekkit on December 04, 2012, 08:14:05 am
/In.

Just to let you guys know, the first swede who got voted out in the first season of the swedish version committed suicide, so no pressure. ;)
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Insomniac on December 04, 2012, 12:54:21 pm
Never watched a single episode.

Watched the first season, then realized I hated reality tv
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 01:41:30 pm
Never watched a single episode.

Watched the first season, then realized I hated reality tv

It's continually improved over the years. It's much more of a physical/social/mental competition now, than a reality show.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 01:44:12 pm
in without reading anything but the first sentence. one of my favorite shows when i was a kid.

Anyone else feeling old now?

I actually cried.

Then posted the quote on Facebook, along with the obligatory, "Get off my lawn."
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 01:46:26 pm
Are y'all actually that old? I mean, it was on when I was "a kid" too, but I'm only 24 now, sheesh.

Eevee and I were recently discussing how old we think everyone in Forum Games is, and they we became Facebook friends. Isn't that nice?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 01:48:57 pm
Are y'all actually that old? I mean, it was on when I was "a kid" too, but I'm only 24 now, sheesh.

Eevee and I were recently discussing how old we think everyone in Forum Games is, and they we became Facebook friends. Isn't that nice?

Oh Oh! How old am I then?!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Insomniac on December 04, 2012, 01:50:45 pm
Are y'all actually that old? I mean, it was on when I was "a kid" too, but I'm only 24 now, sheesh.

Eevee and I were recently discussing how old we think everyone in Forum Games is, and they we became Facebook friends. Isn't that nice?

And how old do you think I am?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 01:51:25 pm
I am not playing this game right now! I just assumed everyone was like 25. Eevee is the one with ideas.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Axxle on December 04, 2012, 01:52:25 pm
Are y'all actually that old? I mean, it was on when I was "a kid" too, but I'm only 24 now, sheesh.

Eevee and I were recently discussing how old we think everyone in Forum Games is, and they we became Facebook friends. Isn't that nice?

Oh Oh! How old am I then?!
Pushing 900?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 01:54:53 pm


Eevee and I were recently discussing how old we think everyone in Forum Games is, and they we became Facebook friends. Isn't that nice?

Id willingly add most of the people here to facebook, as long as they don't post boring crap about what they had for breakfast or 'Like' stupid chain pictures and stuff! And if they didnt mind the fact that I do tend to comment a lot on other peoples posts and photos...
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Galzria on December 04, 2012, 01:55:28 pm
Are y'all actually that old? I mean, it was on when I was "a kid" too, but I'm only 24 now, sheesh.

Eevee and I were recently discussing how old we think everyone in Forum Games is, and they we became Facebook friends. Isn't that nice?

I'm so old, I don't know what a "Facebook" is. Is it when you get so enraged you smack someone in the face with a book??

...

No but seriously, I don't have a FB account.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 01:56:20 pm
You... you don't? But how do you... do stuff?


Weird.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 01:57:45 pm
I no longer feel old! Thanks Galz!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Voltgloss on December 04, 2012, 02:01:04 pm
Everything Galz has posted in this thread applies to me too.

I'm 34, btw.  If the rest of you 20-somethings are feeling "old," does that qualify me as "ancient?"
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:02:39 pm
Everything Galz has posted in this thread applies to me too.

I'm 34, btw.  If the rest of you 20-somethings are feeling "old," does that qualify me as "ancient?"

Im definately not in my 20's and I posted the 'old' comment!

A lot of people you could do some detective work and work out form thier comments, intro, V/LA roughly how old they are I reckon.
Would beinterested hearing Eevees guesses!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Galzria on December 04, 2012, 02:04:55 pm
Everything Galz has posted in this thread applies to me too.

I'm 34, btw.  If the rest of you 20-somethings are feeling "old," does that qualify me as "ancient?"

Im definately not in my 20's and I posted the 'old' comment!

A lot of people you could do some detective work and work out form thier comments, intro, V/LA roughly how old they are I reckon.
Would beinterested hearing Eevees guesses!

I think I've said, somewhere. But I've got more posts on these boards than anyone else, so you would really have to dig.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 02:10:41 pm
It's always so disorienting when you see someone's face in real life and you realize they look nothing like what you pictured them in your mind.

But I just Facebook-stalked Robz888 and he looks exactly what I pictured him to be.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:11:19 pm
Everything Galz has posted in this thread applies to me too.

I'm 34, btw.  If the rest of you 20-somethings are feeling "old," does that qualify me as "ancient?"

Im definately not in my 20's and I posted the 'old' comment!

A lot of people you could do some detective work and work out form thier comments, intro, V/LA roughly how old they are I reckon.
Would beinterested hearing Eevees guesses!

I think I've said, somewhere. But I've got more posts on these boards than anyone else, so you would really have to dig.

Hmm...27?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Insomniac on December 04, 2012, 02:12:36 pm
It's always so disorienting when you see someone's face in real life and you realize they look nothing like what you pictured them in your mind.

But I just Facebook-stalked Robz888 and he looks exactly what I pictured him to be.

Robz is what I picture him to look like because I saw the picture in the f.ds members map.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Galzria on December 04, 2012, 02:12:58 pm
It's always so disorienting when you see someone's face in real life and you realize they look nothing like what you pictured them in your mind.

But I just Facebook-stalked Robz888 and he looks exactly what I pictured him to be.

That's because you subliminally remembered seeing his face on the f.DS members map, so already had an image - albeit forgotten - of what he looked like in the back of your mind. ;D
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Galzria on December 04, 2012, 02:13:22 pm
Damn you ninja's!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:15:00 pm
Holy crap Robz doesn't have a beard!!!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 02:15:17 pm
I knew it!  Ha.  OK.  That explains that.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 02:15:29 pm
It's always so disorienting when you see someone's face in real life and you realize they look nothing like what you pictured them in your mind.

But I just Facebook-stalked Robz888 and he looks exactly what I pictured him to be.

That's because you subliminally remembered seeing his face on the f.DS members map, so already had an image - albeit forgotten - of what he looked like in the back of your mind. ;D

It's actually because I bear a passing resemblance to my avatar, unlike the rest of you probably.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:15:58 pm
I look just like my avatar!!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:16:11 pm
Also, I assume we are all facebook stalking Robz now right?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 02:17:24 pm
Jeez, you might as well friend me or something.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:18:50 pm
That adds a legitimacy to my stalking that I may not be comfortable with!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 02:19:50 pm
Plus, his profile is mostly public anyway.  Privacy settings are for collectivists.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:20:50 pm
Plus, his profile is mostly public anyway.  Privacy settings are for collectivists.

Well, its what I would expect from such a Libertarian.....
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:22:20 pm
I also feel you can tell someones age by the amount of friends....I try to have a soft cap of 100 friends, and a hard cap of around 130. because I like to read stuff about people I actually interact with on a day to day. Oh, unless they are good looking girls, then they get Auto-added of course
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:23:40 pm
Also, working backwards form Robz I can now see Eevee!

hi Eevee!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 04, 2012, 02:23:49 pm
I feel like one of the young'uns of the forum games community (though there are at least a couple younger than me) at 20. I usually don't add anyone on facebook who I don't know IRL, but I feel like I know some people on here better than some of my actual FB friends. :o
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Insomniac on December 04, 2012, 02:25:08 pm
I feel like this thread has derailed and might well deserve its own topic.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:25:20 pm
I would add people, but then people will realise I'm a sad ugly boring person in real life! haha
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 02:26:16 pm
I essentially operate my FB as if I were someone important (I'm not). Everything on it is public and professional. I re-post the stories I write, policy stuff, chat about video games, you know, the important stuff.

I used to write a blog for the TV show Lost, so I had an instant influx of 1,000 friends the day I posted a link to my FB at the end of a blog post. That was 3 years ago, and those people are steadily leaving me (sometimes grumbling as they go, "Write about Lost more, you jerk!").

PPE: Eevee looked exactly the way I pictured him, and I can't explain that.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Galzria on December 04, 2012, 02:26:49 pm
I also feel you can tell someones age by the amount of friends....I try to have a soft cap of 100 friends, and a hard cap of around 130. because I like to read stuff about people I actually interact with on a day to day. Oh, unless they are good looking girls, then they get Auto-added of course

Isn't that half the girls - and three quarters of the boys - on the interwebs?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:27:58 pm
I also feel you can tell someones age by the amount of friends....I try to have a soft cap of 100 friends, and a hard cap of around 130. because I like to read stuff about people I actually interact with on a day to day. Oh, unless they are good looking girls, then they get Auto-added of course

Isn't that half the girls - and three quarters of the boys - on the interwebs?

A) There are no girls on the internet
and B) Yes, but I am one of the few that admits it!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 02:28:49 pm
Well, I don't actually know the 2 people who just friended me, but my vigorous investigative journalism skills tell me: Theory and Ozle, yes?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 02:29:40 pm
My social networking policy got a lot easier when it became just about sharing puppy pictures with family (and the occasional good article).  I am actually on G+ more than Facebook, shockingly.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:30:32 pm
Well, I don't actually know the 2 people who just friended me, but my vigorous investigative journalism skills tell me: Theory and Ozle, yes?

It depends.....is one of them devishly handsome with bright attractive friends?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 02:31:34 pm
I feel like this thread has derailed and might well deserve its own topic.

I decided to start the age thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5735.0).

Go knock yourselves out.

I can't imagine that I'm the oldest one here, but I'm starting to wonder when I read these replies.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 04, 2012, 02:56:11 pm
WOAH. I don't know how I missed this thread.

I AM A SURVIVOR SUPER FAN. I've never missed an episode.

I've actually applied to be on, like, 5 times or something.

Are you watching the current season? It's really good; very strong cast.

Anyway, the most difficult thing about playing this online--which, by the way, I am totally IN for--is the challenges. I would suggest Dominion games for one thing, obviously. You know, you could implement other online games though. (Like, who can solve a Colourshift puzzle first? Every played Colourshift? It's great: http://www.kongregate.com/games/mrsneeze/colourshift

Why am I not surprised that fellow forum games addicts are Survivor addicts too?

This has gotta happen guys. We have got to get forum Survivor off the ground. I really love the current season too. We should take this discussion somewhere else but which seasons are your favorites? I am not always a huge fan of when they bring people back but I think Heros Vs. Villans was one of the best that I've ever seen. Anyway anyway. Now you've got me addicted to colorshifting too.

Also, get on Survivor. It would be so cool to say that I sorta-kinda know someone on that show! (Actually I'm like 2 degrees of separation from Matt from Redemption Island.)

Was he the long blond haired Christian young guy?

I'm always rooting against the other long blond haired young guys, because I feel like each of them has taken a spot on the show that should have been mine.

This season is oddly good. last season started out okay, but then fizzled when that one girl--Kim, I think--just completely dominated it. I like most of the players they bring back, though on occasion it gets annoying (I don't care for Ozzy, for one thing). Heroes Vs. Villains was the best season hands down, of course. How could it not be? At the time, Russel, Parvati, and Sandra were the best three to ever play the game, and they got to face off! I wanted Parv to win, but you can't argue with Sandra's social game.

As far as the current season goes, just a really strong cast. I really like Penner. Denise and Malcom are instant favorites, it would shock me if they don't come back. Abby is a terrific villain, she's just so insane. And the old actress lady has sort of proven herself.

Yeah that was Matt, sorry he was taking your place! :P

And I agree with almost everything you said there except that I was never rooting for Parvati, she's alright but she'd already won and she's a little too slippery for my liking. Abby is so insane.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on December 04, 2012, 03:01:14 pm
I can root for savvy villains, but I hate the crazy evil people, like Abby. What a psychopath!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: cayvie on December 04, 2012, 07:49:12 pm
I can root for savvy villains, but I hate the crazy evil people, like Abby. What a psychopath!

whatever, azula
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 04, 2012, 07:52:23 pm
Alright, to bring this back on topic:

Seems we have a couple people interested:

Robz
Dsell
Galz (?)
Lekkit
Jimmmmm
Eevee

We'd need at least 16 people willing to play to get this off the ground, plus a comod. Players would have to be able to participate heavily in PMs, challenges, discussion etc.

I have a couple ideas for challenges (they're pretty weak though), but feel free to PM me if you have any ideas for both cooperative and solo challenges. The more options I have to choose from, the better the challenges will be.

What about the 'player skills' idea? Is it worth doing? Or would it be unnecessary?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Axxle on December 04, 2012, 07:55:12 pm
I'd be willing to comod.  I can grab some challenge ideas from previous forum survivor games I know about.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Voltgloss on December 05, 2012, 12:03:28 pm
I know nothing about Survivor.

I think this would be fun because y'all are a fun group of folks.  ;D

I am concerned about over-committing to forum games and so by availability will depend on what other games I'm in at the time this is expected to go live.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 05, 2012, 06:12:06 pm
I know nothing about Survivor.

I think this would be fun because y'all are a fun group of folks.  ;D

I am concerned about over-committing to forum games and so by availability will depend on what other games I'm in at the time this is expected to go live.
This probably won't start for a while, we would need much more people to sign up, flesh out the challenges, balance the teams, etc. But glad you're considering joining!

I'd be willing to comod.  I can grab some challenge ideas from previous forum survivor games I know about.
Good! Just PM me with any ideas you have. I could start a QT to brainstorm if needed.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Grujah on December 17, 2012, 04:16:57 am
I can be in..

No single challenges for voting immunity?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 17, 2012, 05:34:35 pm
I can be in..

No single challenges for voting immunity?
Of course!

Don't know if this would get off the ground though, there's a lot of interest, but not quite enough.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on December 17, 2012, 05:50:23 pm
Still very interested. Also interested in a QT brainstorm. Or just more brainstorming right here.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 17, 2012, 05:52:50 pm
Brainstorm here, and then send any ideas to me or Axxle.

You won't know if it'll be used or not, but we might, so might as well suggest.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: ibavly on December 20, 2012, 10:28:10 pm
I'd like to play

here's a survivor game I ran on another board if you want ideas

tribe threads:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/survivor-northern-hemisphere-tribe-dothraki-tribe-kinda-big-deal-do-not-open-1045895/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/survivor-northern-hemisphere-tribe-kinda-big-deal-tribe-dothraki-do-not-open-1045894/

merge thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/survivor-northern-hemisphere-tribe-murlonio-hell-you-1057375/
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on December 20, 2012, 10:32:47 pm
hey yo 2+2, i know that place.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on December 20, 2012, 11:58:57 pm
hey yo 2+2, i know that place.
Figures, it's a poker site. :P

Ibavly! Good to have you! Feel free to PM me or Axxle any and all ideas from there that you would like to implement here.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on December 31, 2012, 02:43:04 am
Gah I'm too slow at finding these things. I read the opening post and though wow ill let everyone know me an robz love survivor and are definetly in. Then I come to find not only has he mentioned his love of survivor he's started a Facebook stalking of himself.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on December 31, 2012, 02:56:51 am
Also as a suggestion for the games, for a way to simulate different people strengths and weaknesses you could have different types of games, not sure about the team portion but for individual immunity any online game with a postable high score could be used, I saw someone post a link to kongregete as well and many of those games have achievements, first to get the achievement wins, this is viewable in your account profile. Just throwing out ideas.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on February 23, 2013, 09:31:55 pm
Necromancing this thread! Come on people, sign up!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on February 23, 2013, 10:19:30 pm
Forumpls :)

Maybe some of the newbies to mafia would want to play. We should post a link to this after one of the games. It worked well for your mafia game robz.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on April 18, 2013, 04:17:32 am
So...how about this season, eh?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on April 18, 2013, 08:31:07 am
We had like 10 people interested so I think we could scrounge out a few more. I think the opening post should be edited to explain more like a mafia game. For those who don't want to read it just seems like we are indefinitely gauging interest.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on April 18, 2013, 08:31:53 am
Still super interested in playing.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on April 18, 2013, 01:54:02 pm
So...how about this season, eh?

It's really good! I like Malcolm, but for some reason I find myself always rooting against him. Maybe I'm jealous of how cool he is? I don't know. Anyway, his tribal council moves the last two weeks have been awesome.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on April 18, 2013, 08:53:12 pm
We're shooting for 16 people still, right?

So we need 8 more, assuming everyone signed up still wants to play.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on April 18, 2013, 08:54:57 pm
We're shooting for 16 people still, right?

So we need 8 more, assuming everyone signed up still wants to play.
Couldn't we try to do it with less if we simply can't get to 16? A smaller game sounds better than no game!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: modestguineapig on April 21, 2013, 08:16:25 pm
Hello all, I've never played a forum game before, so I'm not sure if this is the best way to start?  Anyway, I read the description, and it sounds fun.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on April 21, 2013, 08:22:10 pm
Have you ever seen the show? It's not a requirement or anything, I'm just curious.

But you're in!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: modestguineapig on April 21, 2013, 08:35:29 pm
Have you ever seen the show? It's not a requirement or anything, I'm just curious.

But you're in!

Yeah, I've seen every season--I'll be the obligatory "mom" cast member in a one-piece swimsuit.  I'm really enjoying the current season; I'm rooting for Cochran.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on April 21, 2013, 10:57:08 pm
Have you ever seen the show? It's not a requirement or anything, I'm just curious.

But you're in!

Yeah, I've seen every season--I'll be the obligatory "mom" cast member in a one-piece swimsuit.  I'm really enjoying the current season; I'm rooting for Cochran.

Welcome to the Forums! I'm a Survivor diehard fan. This season has been GREAT for the last three weeks, at least. Cochran is great.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mail-mi on April 25, 2013, 11:35:07 pm
Sure /in why not?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on April 25, 2013, 11:52:37 pm
1. mail-mi
2. Robz
3. Dsell
4. Galzria
5. Lekkit
6. Jimmmmm
7. Eevee
8. mcmcsalot
9. modestguineapig
10. ibavly

This is who I have signed up. If everyone signed up still wants to play, I'll be aiming for 2 more players. If I think you may have forgotten, I'll send you a PM about it.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Lekkit on April 26, 2013, 05:28:47 am
I'll actually /out this one.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on April 26, 2013, 06:10:35 pm
I'll actually /out this one.
Darn, so 3 more people!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: liopoil on April 26, 2013, 08:05:03 pm
maybe in... on what basis does the jury decide who wins? do they just pick whoever they think was best at solving puzzles?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on April 26, 2013, 09:22:13 pm
maybe in... on what basis does the jury decide who wins? do they just pick whoever they think was best at solving puzzles?
If they want to, sure.

What usually happens is people vote for whoever they feel like deserves to win. If you backstabbed them, you probably won't receive their vote.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: liopoil on April 26, 2013, 09:25:40 pm
ahhh. yeah, sure, /in.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Twistedarcher on May 01, 2013, 03:02:52 pm
I'll play this
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on May 16, 2013, 11:57:27 pm
bump!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on May 17, 2013, 12:48:11 am
Thanks for bumping this Eevee because…

I'll probably run this during the summer. So signups will close around the beginning of June.

Spectators! Have any cool ideas for some nice minigames? PM me! I already have some ideas and it'd be better to have more choices to choose from.

And for the specialized skills: Yea or Nay?

If you haven't signed up, do it!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on May 17, 2013, 01:13:28 am
I've also begun work on a mechanic that deals with the hidden immunity idol that will have it's own sort of mini-mindgame of it's own.

Each player may once during the dayphase of the game (before or after the immunity challenge) go out and look for the immunity idol. Before the night, I'll let them know if they've found it or not. For sake of the example, we'll say their chances of finding it are at 50% and failure at 50%.

Now, for everyother person from the tribe that goes out and looks, the chances of them finding it goes down.

So if Player A and Player B go and look, instead of a 50% chance of them finding it, it's 25% chance each. There would still be a 50% chance of failur for both parties.

However, since there is only one HII per tribe, once it's been found the chance of all future searches drop to a 100% failure until it's returned.

This does need to be tweaked with exact starting percentages for fail/find, how many chances a player gets to search, if they get more chances when the tribes combine, whether to variable the system based on the number of searches conducted previously, etc. I'm open for suggestions, if this even is a system people want to use.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on May 17, 2013, 02:18:15 pm
No, you should make it like a real search, like Ozle's map challenges
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on May 17, 2013, 03:25:18 pm
Guys, thinking of watching one season of the actual show to get pumped for this, what should I do? I might have asked Robz earlier but I don't remember what he said.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on May 17, 2013, 03:48:14 pm
Guys, thinking of watching one season of the actual show to get pumped for this, what should I do? I might have asked Robz earlier but I don't remember what he said.

Hmm. Well, the really old, original seasons, are not as good, in my view. So don't start from the beginning if you just want to watch one! The seasons with returning cast members tend to be the best, but some of the fun there is watching people you already know.

Survivor: Phillipines is a recent, mostly standalone season (three returning cast members) that was pretty good.

You could also try Heroes vs. Villains, Fans vs. Favorites I, Fiji, or Samoa.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on May 17, 2013, 04:27:47 pm
Heroes vs villains is what google suggested, followed by the philippine one. I'm just worried that too much of the appeal of heroes vs villains is knowing said characters from before. (Obv I'll watch all 26 if I like it that much! I really don't know, havent seen a single episode in probably 8 years.)
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on May 17, 2013, 04:35:14 pm
I thought the last season (Fans vs Favs 2) was pretty great, although there were a few lame people and favorites got a lot more airtime early, but it's easy to find it since it's still on cbs.com (assuming that works for you in Finland).
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on May 17, 2013, 04:54:02 pm
Availability isn't an issue for me, the internet's pretty wonderful. If there isn't a clear greatest season amongst the ones with no old characters, I guess I'll start with heroes and villains. I'll do it right away!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Dsell on May 17, 2013, 05:03:07 pm
Availability isn't an issue for me, the internet's pretty wonderful. If there isn't a clear greatest season amongst the ones with no old characters, I guess I'll start with heroes and villains. I'll do it right away!

Woo!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on May 17, 2013, 05:28:35 pm
Availability isn't an issue for me, the internet's pretty wonderful. If there isn't a clear greatest season amongst the ones with no old characters, I guess I'll start with heroes and villains. I'll do it right away!

Don't give up on that OTHER desert island show, though, in the mean time!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on May 17, 2013, 05:57:48 pm
No, you should make it like a real search, like Ozle's map challenges
Ooh, that is good! I'll use it. Thanks Robz!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: modestguineapig on May 20, 2013, 07:04:18 pm
I really liked Pearl Islands and Cook Islands.  I had an idea about how to do the group challenges--

what if you had a puzzle with a time limit that you gave each individual to play.  Then, as a group, each individual score would be added up for the group total.  (Could lead to a tie, though) 

The losing team would be able to see the results of each player's puzzle. So, if they wanted to vote off the person with the worst score (the "weakest" player) they would be able to compare scores easily.

I thought this would be a more objective way of assessing each players skills, rather than trying to coordinate in a QT....one player could get there first and solve the puzzle and then the rest of the people wouldn't be able to showcase their skills.

Anyway, just a thought...I haven't really thought it through to see all the potential problems.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: modestguineapig on May 22, 2013, 08:59:52 am
I'm going to need to /out of this game for now.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on May 22, 2013, 09:26:30 am
I'm going to need to /out of this game for now.  Sorry!
That's totally fine.   :) Hope the family emergency gets resolved!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on May 22, 2013, 05:40:01 pm
Been watching heroes versus villains, man this show rocks. Want to try it myself very bad!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Axxle on May 22, 2013, 06:18:25 pm
Posted a ton of challenge ideas in the ancient surviver qt. (misspelling intended since that's what you titled the qt >:()
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on May 22, 2013, 06:24:42 pm
Posted a ton of challenge ideas in the ancient surviver qt. (misspelling intended since that's what you titled the qt >:()
It worked!

Checking it now...
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on May 22, 2013, 07:02:12 pm
Posted a ton of challenge ideas in the ancient surviver qt. (misspelling intended since that's what you titled the qt >:()
It worked!

Checking it now...
Ok it's updated.

Those are some really cool ideas!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: shraeye on May 22, 2013, 08:39:26 pm
I like cool ideas.  And I like survivor.  I don't know if there's an \in list for this, but I'd like to be there.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on May 22, 2013, 08:46:54 pm
Yay!
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on July 14, 2013, 05:34:54 pm
Bump?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on July 14, 2013, 07:49:26 pm
I don't know if I'll have the time to put it together and run it anymore. :P If we have a ton of people, I'll for sure do it, but not if there is only this few.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on July 15, 2013, 02:31:51 pm
I don't know if I'll have the time to put it together and run it anymore. :P If we have a ton of people, I'll for sure do it, but not if there is only this few.

I could probably run it. I have some good ideas.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on July 16, 2013, 09:41:53 am
I don't know if I'll have the time to put it together and run it anymore. :P If we have a ton of people, I'll for sure do it, but not if there is only this few.

I could probably run it. I have some good ideas.

Ooo, everyone should immediately /in. I mean I know y'all have seen him run mafia games for awhile but take it from someone who has been playing games run by robz for 20 years, /in

Also I want this to happen...
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Robz888 on July 16, 2013, 04:16:06 pm
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8886.msg269324#msg269324
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: AdamH on July 17, 2013, 09:55:45 am
I don't like the idea of a jury QT. I think jury members should not be allowed to talk about the game at all until the final vote, whether to each other or even publicly (especially publicly).

I also don't like the idea of a final 3. Final 2 all the way.

These are just my opinions, though.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Eevee on July 17, 2013, 10:00:56 am
In "real" survivor the jury gets to hang out together / talk about the game before the vote though, right?
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: AdamH on July 17, 2013, 10:18:25 am
Originally in the Survivor rules they were told not to talk about the game. Back when juries respected that I feel that the game was better. It's impossible to enforce now so bitter people have poisoned juries before and created voting blocs that made me unhappy.

It's just my opinion. Perhaps an effort can be made to try and prevent jurors from talking about the game. At least to not encourage them to do it by having a QT that wouldn't be good for anything else.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on July 18, 2013, 12:40:39 pm
I agree with not being able to talk about the game. I think it would be
More fun as a jury member to get first reactions to others final tribal question/responses when they are done and be just as shocked as the players when they find out who wins.

I disagree with 2 players, I think three created infinitely more alliance choices and alot less potential for the bring the one you can beat strategy, surrounding yourself with two complete losers is tough and you look bad, you gotta figure out how to bring one obvious loser and one good candidate who you can out talk/had less allies.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: Archetype on July 18, 2013, 12:56:35 pm
I don't think you should have an in-game mechanic for allowing undetected conversations. I think you should do just the opposite and have a mechanic for detecting conversations.

So you can talk as much as you want with in private with people, but there is a slight chance of your message being overheard by another player. This is in place of talking as much as you want and having it always be detected, but there is a slight chance that your messaging will be private.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: mcmcsalot on July 18, 2013, 11:34:46 pm
Added note from what I said in the other thread. I thin the game could really evolve if we took a bit of role playing into it, this also helps because a conversation between two people could just be about their favorite foods or anything else. But peoe would need
To be into the whole let talk because we need to get some
Water and actually just talk.
Title: Re: Online Survivor?
Post by: AdamH on July 22, 2013, 12:23:55 am
F2 vs F3 has long been an area of disagreement.

Regardless of what actually happens, I'm quite certain that the mods shouldn't tell us which is happening until right before the final immunity challenge, though.  ;D