Dominion Strategy Forum
Dominion => Variants and Fan Cards => Topic started by: ConMan on November 26, 2012, 07:26:26 pm
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A quick search shows that the "Treasure - Duration" space has been explored, but not particularly deeply. So what would such a card be? Here are some thoughts:
Sapphire - $2
Treasure - Duration
Now and at the start of your next Buy phase, +$1.
This is a tricky one to price, since it's almost always worse than Fishing Village or Lighthouse but I don't think it's poor enough to be $1. Having the effect trigger in the Buy phase is a little different to the Action - Durations, but I think it ties in nicely with Treasures in general (and does odd things with Black Market). A similar card suggested in another thread was Interest, which would give +$2 the next turn.
Diamond - $5
Treasure - Duration
+$2
At the start of your next Buy phase, if this is the only Diamond in play, +$2. Otherwise, +$1.
Because Diamond's value is driven by its scarcity, of course. And it produces a slightly different kind of player interaction.
Investment - $5
Treasure - Duration
+$0
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At the start of your Clean-up phase, if you did not buy any cards this turn, set aside your played Treasures. At the start of your next turn, discard this and place the set-aside cards into your hand.
A sort of cross between Haven and Madman, with maybe a hint of Tactician and Herbalist. Great for powering up megaturns when you don't quite get all the cards you need first time around. I'm actually a little suspicious of how powerful it is (or whether there's a bad timing interaction I haven't considered), and whether the card should be trashed rather than discarded.
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I think Diamond is too similar to Merchant Ship to exist, and Sapphire to Lighthouse. This is one of the reasons I don't think Treasure-Durations can work, the +1$ Duration and +2$ Duration is already taken.
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I agree, it's a funny space to work in, hence why I was trying to find something that hasn't really been covered. I agree that Diamond shares some similarities with Merchant Ship. I suppose the main difference is in Diamond giving, on average, less $, versus Merchant Ship being a terminal Action. Finding a way to make a +$1 TD work is probably the hardest one, since there are two ADs to compare to rather than just MS for +$2. And of course, a +$3 would probably wind up being more expensive than a Province, making it a rather poor fit in most Kingdoms.
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Isn't Diamond strictly worse than Merchant Ship?
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Isn't Diamond strictly worse than Merchant Ship?
It's a treasure, you can't draw it dead.
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Isn't Diamond strictly worse than Merchant Ship?
It's a treasure, you can't draw it dead.
missed that
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Shouldn't you use the term "worth" instead of the plus? It's kind of confusing otherwise. +$ usually means it's an Action card.
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My take on Investment:
Worth $0
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At the beginning of your next turn, +$1 for each 2 Coin (rounded down) that you did not spend in this Buy phase.
(This way lets you set up exponential growth if you get a lot of them :) You need at least 5 and a draw-your-deck engine, though.)
Another thought I had:
Monopoly
Worth $2
Name a card other than Monopoly. While this card is in play, no other player may buy the named card.
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At the beginning of every turn, if you did not buy the named card last turn, trash this.
(The mechanic lets you 'compete' with other Monopolies, resulting in both being trashed, to break someone else's grip.)
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Shouldn't you use the term "worth" instead of the plus? It's kind of confusing otherwise. +$ usually means it's an Action card.
Probably. If you had a Treasure-Duration, though, would you make it "Worth $1 - Next turn, worth $1" with appropriate pictures as well, or would you make the next-turn bit +$1?
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A twist on the Investment idea:
Savings: $2
Treasure - Duration
Worth 1 or set this card aside and return it to your hand at the start of your next turn
So its a Haven that can only be used for copper (reduces hand size by one and leaves action total the same), but it can be used multiple turns in a row so you can stack a pile of them up (which really only gets in the way of Watchtower/Library and Menagerie) and is a treasure so I think its different enough. Given all the times I get stuck one coin short, I think it could have its uses.