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Title: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: sumrex on January 05, 2023, 06:33:17 am
Lets discuss- Silver mine

Okay, maybe i am overlooking something but this is a horrible card. In games with potion this might be nice to never whiff with potion, but why isnt this an non terminal action that says gain a treasure up to 5? Without that, there are very little treasures that cost 4 or less that you would actually want. Or is there any saving grace for this card? When would you gain it outside of swindler? What is the best treasure to gain with it? Would you ever want this to gain only silver in a game?
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: Jack Rudd on January 05, 2023, 06:49:05 am
Well, the main place you want it is decks where Silver is going to be a better-than-average card. So: money decks, slog decks, Feodum decks.

Other than that: Quarry can be a decent card to gain with it.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: sumrex on January 05, 2023, 07:46:51 am
Quarry sounds like a idea, but that only really seines with +buy, which silver mine does not provide sadly.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: ehunt on January 05, 2023, 09:13:37 am
My opponent grabbed a surprise potion and pivoted vineyard with it the other day.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: AJD on January 05, 2023, 11:32:08 am
They can't all be the best $5 card ever.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: GendoIkari on January 05, 2023, 12:46:24 pm
You have to remember which expansion this is part of... it doesn't just gain Silver and Potion... it gains Cage, Jewelled Egg, Abundance, Crucible, Gondola, and Rope.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: JW on January 05, 2023, 01:18:35 pm
You have to remember which expansion this is part of... it doesn't just gain Silver and Potion... it gains Cage, Jewelled Egg, Abundance, Crucible, Gondola, and Rope.

And Tools!
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: segura on January 05, 2023, 01:37:51 pm
It is virtually strictly inferior to Sculptor and thus a weak card in total random.
In Plunder it is a powerhouse.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: GendoIkari on January 05, 2023, 02:40:49 pm
You have to remember which expansion this is part of... it doesn't just gain Silver and Potion... it gains Cage, Jewelled Egg, Abundance, Crucible, Gondola, and Rope.

And Tools!

Not sure how I missed that; was just going through the list on the wiki.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: sumrex on January 06, 2023, 06:01:44 am
You have to remember which expansion this is part of... it doesn't just gain Silver and Potion... it gains Cage, Jewelled Egg, Abundance, Crucible, Gondola, and Rope.

But which of these cards do you want more than 2 of? I get it if there are 2 good treasures that cost 4 or less I the same kingdom as the mine, but that application is even more narrow than counting house.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: segura on January 06, 2023, 07:47:18 am
You have to remember which expansion this is part of... it doesn't just gain Silver and Potion... it gains Cage, Jewelled Egg, Abundance, Crucible, Gondola, and Rope.

But which of these cards do you want more than 2 of? I get it if there are 2 good treasures that cost 4 or less I the same kingdom as the mine, but that application is even more narrow than counting house.
Like all of the Ropes (semi-delayed Market that trashes)? Like plenty of Eggs to get Loot? Like lots of Abundances to build up or create funky megaturns?

I totally agree with you that the card is weak if it can only gain Silvers. But in Plunder it is anything but weak.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: Honkeyfresh on January 27, 2023, 12:53:33 pm
You have to remember which expansion this is part of... it doesn't just gain Silver and Potion... it gains Cage, Jewelled Egg, Abundance, Crucible, Gondola, and Rope.

And Tools!
supplies, ducat and stockpile are pretty nice too.  But in a purely silver game it's really bad.
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: dirkdebeule on January 27, 2023, 01:20:29 pm
The one nobody wants to buy, but if you keep picking it up, it can be brutal… Fool’s Gold.
Or make your choice: http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Treasure
Title: Re: Lets discuss- Silver mine
Post by: traces Around on March 20, 2023, 01:22:38 pm
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Don't know what you all think is wrong with it