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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: majiponi on October 25, 2022, 11:52:50 am

Title: City-state
Post by: majiponi on October 25, 2022, 11:52:50 am
I have 2 Favors.  City-state is used in this game.

Q1. I gain a Guildmaster and spend 2 Favors to play it.  Do I get +1 Favor?

Q2. I gain a Livery and spend 2 Favors to play it.  Do I gain a Horse?
Title: Re: City-state
Post by: BryGuy on October 25, 2022, 12:27:35 pm
Q1. No, not until you met the conditions on Guildmaster. 

Q2. No, not until you met the conditions on Livery.

For both situations, since you did not have the card in play at the time you gained it, its own gaining can not trigger itself.
Title: Re: City-state
Post by: Ingix on October 25, 2022, 01:16:49 pm
Q1. No, not until you met the conditions on Guildmaster. 

Q2. No, not until you met the conditions on Livery.

For both situations, since you did not have the card in play at the time you gained it, its own gaining can not trigger itself.

That's wrong in both cases. It's been debated and it clearly is counterintuitive, but it works in both cases.

When an event happens that can potentially trigger something, you gather everything that did trigger, then process it one after the other (this is the simplified version, assuming all triggers belong to the same player). If in the course of doing this a new trigger is created that also triggers on that event, it is added to the list of things to process.

This applies to both scenarios above, meaning you get another Favor for Q1 and a Horse for Q2.
Title: Re: City-state
Post by: GendoIkari on October 25, 2022, 04:36:12 pm
Yeah this seems exactly the same as Innovation + Livery/Skirmisher which has been discussed at length.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=21009
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=21138.0