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Title: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 05:28:33 am
With the recent popularity in Wordle (Nerdle, Worldle, Birdle), why don't we start playing Cardle?

Specifically, Dominion Cardle.

Pick a Dominion card (let's start with just cards, if it works we can try events, landmarks etc later) and choose 5 attributes of it. Tell everyone what attributes you've chosen, but not what value your card has for each one.

For example, if I pick Smithy, I could pick the following attributes and values:

Then other people try to guess the card. For each guess, you score it against the attributes you chose. Green if it matches, Red if it doesn't, Orange if it's close.

For example, if someone guesses Torturer, I'd say:
Torturer: Cards; Cost; Types; Coins/Coffers; Effect on others

The difference between Red and Orange could be a bit subjective, but just do what you think is best. Maybe for cost I would give an Orange if the cost was 4* or 4P.

The aim is to guess a card which scores green on all five categories. Probably this will be the originally chosen card. If it isn't then reveal the chosen card anyway. Then start the next round!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 05:31:56 am
I'll go first. I've picked a card. Here are the attributes I will be scoring against:
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 06:24:04 am
Smithy
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 06:29:23 am
Smithy: Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 15, 2022, 06:32:31 am
Sure, this can work well enough, maybe.

Woodcutter
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 06:34:29 am

Smithy:     Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Woodcutter: Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 06:39:36 am
Actually, going to change my Woodcutter answer, sorry.

Smithy:     Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Woodcutter: Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 07:18:25 am
Artisan
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 07:23:39 am

Smithy:     Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Woodcutter: Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Artisan:    Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;

Got it in 3, well done :) Your turn?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 07:44:47 am
Sure! I got one.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 15, 2022, 07:51:20 am
What attributes are you using?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 07:55:00 am
Oh right, we can choose. I assumed the same when I thought of the card, so let's go with those. Same as last time.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 07:55:54 am
Explorer
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 07:59:13 am

Explorer:     Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 08:00:36 am
Market
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 08:07:56 am

Explorer:     Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Market:       Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 08:23:56 am
Storyteller
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 08:27:01 am
Explorer:     Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Market:       Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Storyteller:  Cost; Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 08:54:56 am
Archive
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 09:05:53 am
Correct! Definitely expected that to take longer.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 09:07:21 am
There is potential for a variant of this game where you only reveal the sum of green attributes. In this case, all orange-y things should probably be red.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 09:10:15 am
There is potential for a variant of this game where you only reveal the sum of green attributes. In this case, all orange-y things should probably be red.
Or you could say number of greens, number of oranges. I feel like oranges are probably quite useful for guessing, even though there is ambiguity in what they might mean.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2022, 09:11:44 am
Right, that would also work. Agree that would make it a lot easier; the oranges for Woodcutter were very helpful.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 09:14:48 am
Right, I got one. Original rules still.

Attributes are:
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 15, 2022, 11:39:20 am
Farmland
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 11:47:08 am

Farmland:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 15, 2022, 11:51:48 am
Ill-Gotten Gains
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 11:58:52 am
Sorry, I missed the on-buy gain effect of Farmland, so I've updated that answer. It is tricky to decide exactly what you mean by an attribute!

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;

Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 15, 2022, 12:14:35 pm
Sir Vander

The Gold Knight.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 15, 2022, 05:26:44 pm

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Robz888 on February 15, 2022, 05:30:41 pm
Marauder
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 16, 2022, 03:04:33 am

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Marauder:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 05:28:19 am
Knights (or if this by principle doesn't count, don't score it)
Duchy
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 16, 2022, 05:59:59 am

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Marauder:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Duchy:             Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 06:25:43 am
Small Castle
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 16, 2022, 06:35:17 am

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Marauder:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Duchy:             Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Small Castle:      Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 07:41:55 am
(confirm we're talking about a card and not a horizontal? you've restricted it to cards in the OP.)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 07:43:59 am
Wish
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 07:45:08 am
Soldier
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 16, 2022, 08:53:41 am
(confirm we're talking about a card and not a horizontal? you've restricted it to cards in the OP.)
Yes it is a card.


Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Marauder:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Duchy:             Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Small Castle:      Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Wish:              Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Soldier:           Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 09:00:45 am
Teacher
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 09:02:26 am
Disciple
Teacher (PPEd  :()
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 16, 2022, 09:04:12 am
Treasure Hunter
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 16, 2022, 09:24:48 am

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Marauder:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Duchy:             Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Small Castle:      Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Wish:              Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Soldier:           Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Teacher:           Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Disciple:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Treasure Hunter:   Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 09:39:48 am
CATAPULT
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 16, 2022, 09:41:20 am

Farmland:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Ill-Gotten Gains:  Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Sir Vander:        Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Marauder:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Duchy:             Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Small Castle:      Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Wish:              Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Soldier:           Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Teacher:           Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Disciple:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Treasure Hunter:   Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;
Catapult:          Cards; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Copies; Effect on others;


Well done scolapasta :)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 12:46:05 pm
scola game new create now gogo wow?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 12:46:47 pm
scola game new create now gogo wow?

What?

But yes, working on it.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 01:21:37 pm
Hmm, that was along one. OK I've got one.

I am going to incorporate a new process rule: no repeat guesses from the same person, unless someone has guessed in between or 24 hours have passed (this could be a shorter time, if people think it's too long).

Does that seem reasonable?

OK, let's try this one:

Attributes are:
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 01:44:41 pm
Haunted Woods
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 01:52:02 pm

Haunted Woods:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 02:10:04 pm
nailed it
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 02:14:25 pm
That's our first all red, no? :)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 16, 2022, 02:15:02 pm
Market
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 16, 2022, 02:15:58 pm
It's hard to find a card that is so off base, as Haunted Woods does nothing when played. Bravo, silver.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 02:18:03 pm

Haunted Woods:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Market:                 Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 16, 2022, 02:20:01 pm
Wharf
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 02:32:41 pm
Oh crap -  we did not have our first all red, as I messed up something on Haunted Woods. Fixed below - sorry all.

(also, without being specific, it's true that the distinction between red and orange can be subjective - I have rules for how to handle  this round, and will try to stay consistent. But I can explain after why something might be orange when it could be red, and vice versa)


Haunted Woods:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Market:                 Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Wharf:                  Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 16, 2022, 02:39:47 pm
Disciple
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 03:01:58 pm


Haunted Woods:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Market:                 Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Wharf:                  Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Disciple:               Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Robz888 on February 16, 2022, 03:08:39 pm
Diplomat
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 03:16:38 pm

Haunted Woods:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Market:                 Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Wharf:                  Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Disciple:               Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Diplomat:               Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 16, 2022, 03:42:26 pm
Tactician
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 16, 2022, 03:46:31 pm

Haunted Woods:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Market:                 Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Wharf:                  Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Disciple:               Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Diplomat:               Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;
Tactician:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types; Number of Cards in Hand;

Ding, ding, ding!

So I decided for the first 3 attributes, that to not be red, you needed to get the total # granted regardless of turn, so 1, 1, 0. That's why Wharf Buys was red, when it also could have been Orange (since it does give +1 Buy next turn). Market of course has the correct # of Actions and Buys, but wasn't exactly right, hence Orange.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 17, 2022, 08:11:42 am
Yes, good idea to decide beforehand exactly what you'll give orange for (even if you don't tell people).
In my last one, the "effect on other players" would be orange for anything involving gaining a curse or discarding down to 3 cards.

MiX turn?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 17, 2022, 12:48:59 pm
I'm not sure how to make a good puzzle out of this, but oh well. Here's my list of properties:

Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 17, 2022, 12:56:51 pm
Werewolf
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 17, 2022, 12:59:07 pm
Courtier :p
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 17, 2022, 01:28:29 pm
Werewolf:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Courtier:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 01:39:52 pm
Ratcatcher
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 17, 2022, 02:04:35 pm
Werewolf:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Courtier:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Ratcatcher:        Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 17, 2022, 02:06:24 pm
Haunted Woods
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 02:14:20 pm
Werewolf:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Courtier:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Ratcatcher:        Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;

I'm confused at how Coins / Coffers can be green for Werewolf and red for Ratcatcher. Would you mind double checking that?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 17, 2022, 02:20:19 pm
I'm similarly confused why Courtier is orange for Actions, but not orange for Buys/Gains and Coin/Coffers, if Werewolf is green for that. Is that intentional?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 17, 2022, 02:33:58 pm
I'm confused at how Coins / Coffers can be green for Werewolf and red for Ratcatcher. Would you mind double checking that?

Werewolf:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Courtier:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Ratcatcher:        Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Haunted Woods:     Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;

I'm similarly confused why Courtier is orange for Actions, but not orange for Buys/Gains and Coin/Coffers, if Werewolf is green for that. Is that intentional?

It's orange for actions for the same reason ratcatcher is orange for actions. I'm assuming courtier is doing everything, since it can always do one of the things it can do. It would probably be orange if the correct number of Buy/Gains is 2, since it can't always give a buy and gain a Gold.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 03:06:03 pm
Cultist
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 17, 2022, 03:30:58 pm
Werewolf:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Courtier:          Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Ratcatcher:        Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Haunted Woods:     Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;
Cultist:           Hand size; Actions; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Number of Types;

Correct! Was that too easy?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 17, 2022, 03:52:38 pm
It's orange for actions for the same reason ratcatcher is orange for actions. I'm assuming courtier is doing everything, since it can always do one of the things it can do. It would probably be orange if the correct number of Buy/Gains is 2, since it can't always give a buy and gain a Gold.

Aaah ok that makes sense. Thanks!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 04:15:19 pm
Not necessary too easy, though once we narrowed down to a 3-typer, there weren't so many options. I introduced the # of Types attribute, because I thought that might be more challenging than straight up Type, but 🤷‍♂️

OK, next up (and for fun, let's open it up to landscapes, as well):

I'm going to try all simple attributes:

Now I just need to pick a card! :) I'll have one by the time of the first guess.

Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 17, 2022, 05:02:31 pm
Horse

I'm wondering where that goes on the Horse scale.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 05:09:12 pm

Horse:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 17, 2022, 05:24:03 pm
Transport
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 05:37:33 pm

Horse:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Transport:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: venusambassador on February 17, 2022, 06:27:01 pm
Enclave
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 17, 2022, 07:58:53 pm

Horse:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Transport:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Enclave:            Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Robz888 on February 18, 2022, 11:49:01 am
Cavalary
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 18, 2022, 11:57:00 am

Horse:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Transport:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Enclave:            Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Cavalry:            Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 18, 2022, 04:21:23 pm
Displace
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on February 18, 2022, 04:38:15 pm

Correct!

Horse:              Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Transport:          Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Enclave:            Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Cavalry:            Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Displace:           Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Coins/Coffers; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 18, 2022, 04:54:39 pm
Are people guessing and working out things from memory? Or looking stuff up? I'm unashamedly using the wiki, as I'm not familiar with recent expansions. Like, for that one I checked the wiki page on exiling and it lists all the cards and landscapes which exile stuff. Is that ok or am I cheating?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 18, 2022, 06:00:38 pm
wiki all day
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 19, 2022, 05:48:24 am
Ok, guessers can play at whatever level they like:
The scorer should always look up cards if they are in any doubt, so that they don't make errors in scoring.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 19, 2022, 06:07:22 am
Attributes:
I have a card.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 19, 2022, 06:27:23 am
Monument
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 19, 2022, 09:31:51 am
Monument:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Robz888 on February 19, 2022, 10:59:58 am
Cultist
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 19, 2022, 11:30:25 am
Monument:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Cultist:   Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: joefarebrother on February 19, 2022, 01:45:02 pm
Witch
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 19, 2022, 03:14:22 pm
Monument:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Cultist:   Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Witch:   Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on February 20, 2022, 09:51:37 pm
Vault
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 21, 2022, 03:36:51 am
Monument:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Cultist:   Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Witch:     Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Vault:     Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on February 21, 2022, 06:06:53 am
Lost City
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 21, 2022, 06:18:48 am
Monument:   Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Cultist:    Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Witch:      Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Vault:      Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Lost City:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on February 22, 2022, 10:20:11 am
Sacred Grove
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 22, 2022, 10:22:36 am
Monument:      Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Cultist:       Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Witch:         Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Vault:         Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Lost City:     Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Sacred Grove:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 22, 2022, 03:55:29 pm
Margrave
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 22, 2022, 03:58:22 pm
Monument:      Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Cultist:       Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Witch:         Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Vault:         Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Lost City:     Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Sacred Grove:  Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;
Margrave:      Cost; Trash/Exile/Return; VP; Effect on others; Expansion;


That's the one!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 22, 2022, 04:19:27 pm
Hmmm I'll lead then:

Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;

Kind of an odd one for at least one of the categories, but I don't want to edit them to not give it away too much. Hopefully you agree with my calls after the fact?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: MiX on February 22, 2022, 04:21:22 pm
Market

Let's see which one's the odd one!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 22, 2022, 04:25:10 pm
Market:             Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Jack Rudd on February 22, 2022, 04:35:42 pm
Ride
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 22, 2022, 04:40:25 pm
Market:             Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                 Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 22, 2022, 04:52:30 pm
Farming Village
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 22, 2022, 05:06:19 pm
Market:             Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                 Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village: Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 24, 2022, 03:27:23 am
bump? Oh, it's been 24 hours so I can take another guess...

Hostelry
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 24, 2022, 04:03:36 am
Market:                Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                    Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village:  Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Hostelry:              Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Jack Rudd on February 24, 2022, 06:56:42 am
Wandering Minstrel
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 24, 2022, 01:34:52 pm

Market:                Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                    Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village:  Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Hostelry:              Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
color];
Wandering Minstrel: Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 24, 2022, 01:42:10 pm
Shoot, I just realized I made a mistake with the last category, sorry. Let me fix my answers then:


Market:                Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                    Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village:  Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Hostelry:              Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Wandering Minstrel: Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on February 24, 2022, 03:11:00 pm
Plaza
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 24, 2022, 03:23:09 pm

Market:                       Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                           Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village:         Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Hostelry:                     Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Wandering Minstrel:   Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Plaza:                          Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on February 26, 2022, 11:04:18 pm
The Trash/Discard/Exile has got me stumped here... combined with +2 Actions.  I'm not sure where to go with it.  Someone else want to try and solve this one?  I'd guess again, but I don't have anything that seems to meet all requirements.  Oh well, I guess we don't have a limit on guesses, and even a wrong guess might help sort out the last 2 categories.

Mountain Village
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 27, 2022, 05:59:23 am
Market:                       Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                           Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village:         Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Hostelry:                     Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Wandering Minstrel:   Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Plaza:                          Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Mountain Village:         Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;

I should also remind about this:

Kind of an odd one for at least one of the categories, but I don't want to edit them to not give it away too much. Hopefully you agree with my calls after the fact?

In particular, I've been marking one category based on a common interpretation of a "mechanic", but didn't want to add a keyword to the relevant category because it would almost fully give away the card. If you need an extra hint, I can say what category that is. You're honestly pretty close to figuring it out.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 27, 2022, 05:15:36 pm
Ghost
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on February 27, 2022, 07:31:39 pm
Market:                       Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ride:                           Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Farming Village:         Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Hostelry:                     Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Wandering Minstrel:   Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Plaza:                          Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Mountain Village:        Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;
Ghost:                         Cost; Actions/Villagers; Buys/Gains; Cards/Horses; Trash/Discard/Exile;


That was the card!

I didn't want to change the second category into Actions/Villagers/Plays because it would have heavily implied it was a command-like card, of which there aren't that many. And Cards/Horses was arguable too, since the card pulled by Ghost never actually reaches your hand. My bad on the fourth category though, I copy-pasted it and didn't notice it included "discard" until fairly late.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on February 28, 2022, 04:23:07 am
Cool. Yes, I also have missed "discard" being included in that last attribute. Seems strange.

I'm going to go with more thorough descriptions of attributes for this time, wondering if I can come up with something comprehensive enough yet simple enough to work for Quardle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=21077.0).

Also, Cards only, no Landscapes this time.

Attributes:

For (3) and (4):

(1), (2), (3) and (4) are intended to be precise and allow an unambiguous red/green decision (no orange).
(5) is more subjective, totally up to the scorer, and may be scored orange for similar or overlapping purposes.

I have a card (randomly picked this time).
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 01, 2022, 09:56:28 am
Wharf
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 01, 2022, 10:10:16 am

Wharf:  Cost Expansion Handsize Coins Purpose

Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 02, 2022, 08:14:45 am
Legionary
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 02, 2022, 08:32:01 am
Wharf:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Legionary:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose

I'm trying with grey instead of red, because it looks nicer. And it's fewer characters to change between "grey" and "green"
EDIT: Actually green/grey are too similar. Let's try blue / grey / orange for yes / no / almost.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 03, 2022, 09:51:20 am
Market... because why not?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 03, 2022, 09:57:33 am
Wharf:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Legionary:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Market:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 03, 2022, 06:19:10 pm
Mountebank
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 04, 2022, 02:30:44 am
Wharf:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Legionary:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Market:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Mountebank:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 05, 2022, 02:19:20 pm
Treasure Trove

I think "purpose" is too vague a category, unless you list all possible categories ahead of time.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 05, 2022, 02:44:58 pm
Wharf:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Legionary:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Market:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Mountebank:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Treasure Trove:CostExpansionHandsizeCoinsPurpose
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 05, 2022, 05:09:46 pm
I think "purpose" is too vague a category, unless you list all possible categories ahead of time.
Perhaps yes.
It is hard to define a category precisely without being complicated, so I was trying an ultra-vague category that really just lets someone say "you're getting close" or not. But probably guesses will always be aimed at trying to solve the better-defined categories first, so the vague one ends up not being useful.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 05, 2022, 05:23:28 pm
For this one, Treasure Trove, "Purpose" was something like "buying power". So most treasure cards and gold-gainers would be blue. Mint, Mine, Relic would have scored orange because they have trashing / remodelling / attacking purposes as well as buying power.
Maybe I should have cast the net wider and given orange for action cards which give lots of coins: Legionary, Wine Merchant, Giant etc?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 06, 2022, 02:29:34 pm
I feel like splitting between just Support (draw/actions/sifters), deck building (trashers/gainers), payload (coins/+VP/attacks) would be a better split. Some cards would be straddling categories, but that's what orange is for. Not saying these three are the only way to split it (e.g. is Duchy payload? I would argue it isn't, it's a stop card. It doesn't do anything for you once it's in your deck), but your distinctions were too narrow / numerous.

Even then, it can still be redundant depending on the other categories in the round. If you put cards in, and you find out it gives +3 cards, you don't learn anything from also figuring out it's a Support card.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 07, 2022, 12:14:56 pm
OK, good idea to have a small number of "purposes". I'm sure there are several cards that are hard to categorise (eg you mentioned Duchy), but that would be true however many "purposes" you use. In the end it is up to the scorer, but a small number of categories is best.
And if someone can't assign their card based on those, well nothing to stop them tweaking the categories a bit or adding a 5th category.

Do you want to take a turn? Or we could wait till the Allies excitement dies down a bit.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 13, 2022, 01:22:05 pm
Ok, it's been too long, so I'm going to resurrect this thread.

The categories are:

Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins

Cost needs to be exact, and orange may be given if you only get the right number value (could affect Potion, Debt, even * or +).

Expansion is obvious (though specific to 1st or 2nd Ed could result in orange).

Handsize is after play from a normal starting hand of 5 cards.

Player interaction may be slightly subjective, but I'll try to answer as honestly and helpfully as possible.

Coins is how much it produces on the turn it's played (if your guess or the card can produce multiple values like Bank, orange will mean partial match).

I'm thinking of a card. Guess away.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 13, 2022, 03:31:39 pm
Shepherd
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 13, 2022, 07:55:56 pm
Shepherd: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 14, 2022, 04:45:16 am
Journeyman

Hi, all. This looks fun. :)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 14, 2022, 08:58:55 am
Shepherd: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Journeyman: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Jack Rudd on March 14, 2022, 09:40:07 am
Village
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 14, 2022, 09:49:57 am
Distant Shore

Only one guess at a time, right? Every 24 hours, or if someone else made their guess.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 14, 2022, 02:25:00 pm
Shepherd: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Journeyman: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Village: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 14, 2022, 03:49:45 pm
Shepherd: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Journeyman: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Village: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins

And Distant Shore?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 14, 2022, 09:25:52 pm
Sorry, usually the next guess doesn't happen until the previous one is resolved.

Shepherd: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Journeyman: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Village: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Distant Shore: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 15, 2022, 01:33:11 am
Oh, is that a rule? I don’t think I saw that.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 15, 2022, 02:27:57 am
Hamlet
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 15, 2022, 08:26:25 am
Oh, is that a rule? I don’t think I saw that.

There's no written rules. It's just easier for tracking.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 15, 2022, 08:34:33 am

Shepherd: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Journeyman: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Village: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
Distant Shore: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins
[/quote]
Hamlet: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Player Interaction / Coins

You've got it.
Hamlet could end up with a handsize of 3, 4, or 5. Shepherd could end up with 4, 5, 6, 7, or 8. The others were obvious.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 15, 2022, 08:43:30 am
Nice.

I've got a card, here are my attributes.

Playability: When can I play it, and how does it help with playing other cards? (Consider turn phases, +Actions, +Villagers and text such as "play a card".)
Deckbuilding: How does it change what cards belong to me? (Consider gain, trash, exile from supply, return, exchange etc.)
Card management: How does it move my cards between my drawpile, hand, discard pile and set-aside areas? (Consider +Cards, discard, topdeck, exile, set aside etc.)
Payout: What can it give me in terms of Coins, Coffers, Buys, Favors and VP?
Expansion: Which set(s) is it in?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 15, 2022, 08:59:21 am
King's Court
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 15, 2022, 09:06:52 am
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 15, 2022, 09:07:42 am
Forgot to say, I'm using blue for correct, orange for nearly, grey for no.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 15, 2022, 05:17:38 pm
Hamlet

Nice! I was thinking that exact card after 3-6¢ was ruled out, and the oranges on Handsize.

Contract
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 15, 2022, 06:17:06 pm
Hmm, I'm going to change my King's Court answer slightly, sorry.

King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 15, 2022, 06:27:53 pm
Procession
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 15, 2022, 06:34:17 pm
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 04:06:40 am
... and I've changed my mind on King's Court again. It seems this is what comes of having attributes that care about too many things at once. It can be "correct" in many ways still without being "close". Grey here does not mean entirely wrong, it just means not close enough for orange.

I'm aiming to be generous with blues and as helpful as possible with oranges. I think it is more helpful if I score King's Court and Procession this way:

King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 16, 2022, 04:35:29 am
Royal Galley
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 06:02:19 am
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Royal Galley:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion

That may well be the first all-wrong guess!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Jack Rudd on March 16, 2022, 08:19:17 am
Scepter
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 08:24:52 am
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Royal Galley:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Scepter:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion

Why's everyone going for cards that play/replay other cards?? I feel like I must have badly misled everyone somehow!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 11:20:42 am
To clarify (because yes that "playability" property is too big, bad choice), if my card allowed you to play/replay another card I would have no doubts about scoring all of the above orange/blue for "playability". But I am scoring them grey. My card does not allow you to play/replay another card!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 16, 2022, 12:15:58 pm
Ritual
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 12:20:24 pm
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Royal Galley:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Scepter:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Ritual:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 16, 2022, 12:48:45 pm
Throne Room
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 16, 2022, 12:49:29 pm
(it's very important to have all throne room variants even if they can't be the right card!)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: scolapasta on March 16, 2022, 01:10:08 pm
(it's very important to have all throne room variants even if they can't be the right card!)

But does throne room itself count as a throne room variant?  :)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 02:22:19 pm
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Royal Galley:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Scepter:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Ritual:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Throne Room:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 16, 2022, 02:29:28 pm
... and I've changed my mind on King's Court again. It seems this is what comes of having attributes that care about too many things at once. It can be "correct" in many ways still without being "close". Grey here does not mean entirely wrong, it just means not close enough for orange.

I'm aiming to be generous with blues and as helpful as possible with oranges. I think it is more helpful if I score King's Court and Procession this way:

Yeah your categories are a little convoluted lol. Keep it simple, I say. Anyway, time to rule out Night phase (and Nocturne) since all Actions/Treasures are grey on Playability?:

Devil’s Workshop
But it looks like signs point to a Remodel variant (thrasher+gainer) that also has some kind of “Payout”. So Butcher, or maybe Trading Post. (Let me know if dropping clues for the other players is considered bad form?)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 03:03:56 pm
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Royal Galley:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Scepter:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Ritual:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Throne Room:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Devil's Workshop:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 16, 2022, 03:44:13 pm
Black Market
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 16, 2022, 04:47:12 pm
Butcher
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 16, 2022, 05:49:21 pm
I just noticed I typed “thrasher” earlier. I usually silently judge people who call it that. And here I fat fingered it ;D
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 16, 2022, 07:11:21 pm
King's Court:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Contract:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Procession:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Royal Galley:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Scepter:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Ritual:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Throne Room:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Devil's Workshop:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Black Market:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion
Butcher:Playability /Deckbuilding /Card management /Payout /Expansion

Butcher it is. vidicate's turn.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 16, 2022, 08:34:30 pm
I have one.

Actions
Coins
Cost
Draw/gains
Number of types


I have an internal criteria (hopefully consistent) for what will get “oranged” and “greened” here. I’m okay with multiple guessers between results (especially from midnight to noon Pacific time), but I get why you don’t want to be stuck as the last guesser when new results are updated. As a reminder, (to myself as much as anybody, since I’m the newbie here) one guess per 24 hours unless someone else posted a guess in the meantime.

A couple more thoughts:
• I’m all for not artificially slowing things (hence the multiple people guessing encouraged), given that the logistics of forum games already gives many reasons that they’re slow.
• I enjoy collaboration in this sort of thing. I like to share my thinking, and maybe even helpful hints (only as a guesser, not the card-picker). But I can see how a lot of that going on could get annoying. Additionally, I understand the competitive spirit that comes with playing games, and the desire to win on your own. So, to answer my own question from earlier, let’s do spoiler tags for thoughts about the current card and clues.

Please let me know any of your thoughts on the above. And thank you @infangthief for creating/hosting this game.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: pacovf on March 16, 2022, 08:39:15 pm
Nobles
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 16, 2022, 08:52:02 pm
Nobles: Actions / Coins / Cost / Draws-gains / No. types

I’ll figure out forum tables later :)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 16, 2022, 09:12:39 pm
Nobles: Actions / Coins / Cost / Draws-gains / No. types

Oops, already messed up. Corrected Nobles above.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 17, 2022, 07:49:23 am
Sir Bailey
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 17, 2022, 01:06:28 pm
Nobles:Actions -Coins -Cost -Draw/gains -No. types
Sir Bailey:Actions -Coins -Cost -Draw/gains -No. types
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 17, 2022, 02:11:20 pm
Courtier
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 17, 2022, 02:53:01 pm
Nobles:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Sir Bailey:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Courtier:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 18, 2022, 05:27:32 pm
Le bump
A little too much partying for St. Paddy’s, am I right?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 18, 2022, 06:30:13 pm
Ok, I'll try again. The Actions are bugging me... can you double-check the colours?

Nobles gives +2 Actions or 0, and is red.
Sir Bailey gives +1 Action and is orange.
Couturier can give +1 Action or 0 and is orange.

Let's try
Horn of Plenty
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 18, 2022, 08:10:54 pm
Nobles:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Sir Bailey:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Courtier:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Horn of Plenty:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types

Yup, that’s it. Damn, son! For Courtier I did it like @MiX, actually (see below). I have a few more thoughts on my process to divulge, but wanted to at least get you your win and come back later.
@mathdude is next on the block

I'm similarly confused why Courtier is orange for Actions, but not orange for Buys/Gains and Coin/Coffers, if Werewolf is green for that. Is that intentional?

It's orange for actions for the same reason ratcatcher is orange for actions. I'm assuming courtier is doing everything, since it can always do one of the things it can do. It would probably be orange if the correct number of Buy/Gains is 2, since it can't always give a buy and gain a Gold.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 18, 2022, 10:56:00 pm
Nobles:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Sir Bailey:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Courtier:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Horn of Plenty:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types

Yup, that’s it. Damn, son! For Courtier I did it like @MiX, actually (see below). I have a few more thoughts on my process to divulge, but wanted to at least get you your win and come back later.
@mathdude is next on the block

I'm similarly confused why Courtier is orange for Actions, but not orange for Buys/Gains and Coin/Coffers, if Werewolf is green for that. Is that intentional?

It's orange for actions for the same reason ratcatcher is orange for actions. I'm assuming courtier is doing everything, since it can always do one of the things it can do. It would probably be orange if the correct number of Buy/Gains is 2, since it can't always give a buy and gain a Gold.

I couldn't find a single Action card that worked at $5. So it pretty much had to be Night or Treasure.

Next post will have the start-up for the next word.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 18, 2022, 11:04:24 pm
The categories are:

Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains

Cost needs to be exact, and orange may be given if you only get the right number value (could affect Potion, Debt, even * or +).

Expansion is obvious (though specific to 1st or 2nd Ed could result in orange).

Handsize is after play from a normal starting hand of 5 cards. If there are multiple possible handsizes, and you only match some, it will be orange.

Actions is a simplification of the 4th category... basically, the ability to play another card in the current phase (e.g. a Treasure, Night, or Throne Room all allow you to play another card, similar to +1 Action, so any of these would be orange if another of them were correct).

Buys and Gains is the ability to get an extra card on that turn.

I'm thinking of a card, selected pseudo-randomly. Guess away.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 18, 2022, 11:57:17 pm
Death Cart
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 19, 2022, 12:55:23 am
Death Cart: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains

(note that the buys/gains is for when it's played, so the below-line text on Death Cart, for when you gain it, is not impacting the colour above)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 19, 2022, 05:38:12 am
I couldn't find a single Action card that worked at $5. So it pretty much had to be Night or Treasure.
I wondered about Sculptor, which I think would have worked if the orange for action was because of +Villager instead of +Action.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 19, 2022, 07:37:37 am
Storyteller
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 19, 2022, 08:19:03 am
Mountebank
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 19, 2022, 10:39:50 am
Death Cart: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Storyteller: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Mountebank: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: silverspawn on March 19, 2022, 11:02:46 am
Laboratory
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 19, 2022, 11:39:56 am
Death Cart: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Storyteller: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Mountebank: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Laboratory: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 20, 2022, 11:21:52 am
Emissary

We’re orange on actions. Only Treasure/Night/TR-variant that I can find is Werewolf, though Den of Sin affects next turn handsize.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 20, 2022, 02:26:52 pm
Death Cart: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Storyteller: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Mountebank: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Laboratory: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains
Emissary: Cost / Expansion / Handsize / Actions / Buys and Gains

We’re orange on actions. Only Treasure/Night/TR-variant that I can find is Werewolf, though Den of Sin affects next turn handsize.

All categories this round relate only to *this turn*, not to next turn.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 20, 2022, 03:11:52 pm
Avanto
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 20, 2022, 03:25:19 pm
Avanto

Winner!

The +3 Cards was likely the key here, I'd assume?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 21, 2022, 03:43:10 am
Avanto

Winner!

The +3 Cards was likely the key here, I'd assume?
Yes.
It seems the Expansion property is almost always the last one to turn green!

Shall we get going with Quardle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=21077.0)?
@vidicate, mathdude, thanks for signing up. Everyone else who's been playing along here, do take a look. It's basically everyone having a turn at once.

Anyone who wants to can take a turn here.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 21, 2022, 05:11:17 pm
So it’s anyone’s go? I have one in mind, with some crazy twists on the properties. But I went recently, so I’ll wait a few hours for someone else to jump in.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 22, 2022, 03:45:57 am
Nobles:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Sir Bailey:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Courtier:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types
Horn of Plenty:Actions-Coins-Cost-Draw/gains-No. types

Yup, that’s it. Damn, son!
@mathdude is next on the block

I couldn't find a single Action card that worked at $5. So it pretty much had to be Night or Treasure.

So for Actions I had 3 specific, but not necessarily discrete, characteristics in mind that all but about three Treasures have in common. Having 2 of these 3 characteristics (one was the card had to be non-terminal) would earn an orange.

A bonus puzzle: Which one Night card would not have gotten a green, and which one (non-Night) Action card would have gotten a green on the Actions property?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: Jack Rudd on March 22, 2022, 04:10:31 am
Werewolf would not have gotten a green, because it's a terminal action if played in the Action phase.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 22, 2022, 04:22:25 am
I have a card. I have some new properties to mix things up a bit. We’ll see how it goes, and if people are like “thanks I hate it” after the dust settles.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 22, 2022, 04:27:49 am
Werewolf would not have gotten a green, because it's a terminal action if played in the Action phase.

Good guess! But I was judging Werewolf as non-terminal for this category; it would have been green on Actions.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 23, 2022, 07:21:27 am
I’ll get you started: Beggar

Beggar:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 23, 2022, 07:41:11 am
Sea Hag
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 23, 2022, 08:06:20 am
Beggar:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Sea Hag:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name

(Subjectively, white (Action card) isn’t close enough to any other Dominion card colors, hence Sea Hag couldn’t be orange unless my card was two-tone with white.)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 23, 2022, 11:25:54 am
Fool's gold
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 23, 2022, 12:29:04 pm
Beggar:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Sea Hag:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Fool’s Gold:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 23, 2022, 12:37:25 pm
Abandoned Mine
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 23, 2022, 01:13:53 pm
Beggar:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Sea Hag:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Fool’s Gold:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name
Abandoned Mine:|Color(s)|Handsize|Illustrator initials|No. types|Words in name


That’s the one. Bravo! Did you have a lock on that one? I would love to hear your process, bro.
Btw, for the card color I would have accepted Durations, Reserves, and Nights (subjective) as one-offs, or two-tone Night-Duration.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: mathdude on March 23, 2022, 02:47:36 pm
Before seeing fang's guess or the result, I had just worked out that it was likely a Ruin or Reserve, so it was just a matter of looking through them, and possibly using artist initials to narrow it down.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 23, 2022, 03:05:43 pm
I looked at colours, and thought probably we were after green, but couldn't see any 2-type, 2-word ones with appropriate artist initials (Castles artist doesn't have the right initials).
Then I noticed Ruins brown and looked through their artists. Abandoned Mine was the only ruin that worked.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 23, 2022, 04:21:18 pm
I looked at colours, and thought probably we were after green, but couldn't see any 2-type, 2-word ones with appropriate artist initials (Castles artist doesn't have the right initials).

Heh. Beggar was supposed to rule out all Reactions and mono-green (Victory) cards. (And I guess any theoretical two-type Curse ;))

Before seeing fang's guess or the result, I had just worked out that it was likely a Ruin or Reserve, so it was just a matter of looking through them, and possibly using artist initials to narrow it down.

Excellent. The way I was judging it for colors, Durations, Reserves, Ruins, Nights, and Shelters were at least in theory still in the running — as well as any two-tone cards that weren’t white, Reaction, or Treasure. Wine Merchant and Ghost Town are others the clues so far could have led to, for example. Good work, everyone. I hope that was a fun, or at least interesting change-up.

What do people think about the color and/or illustrator related clues for using in future rounds?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 25, 2022, 05:25:45 am
What do people think about the color and/or illustrator related clues for using in future rounds?
Fine, all good, nice to pick some unusual ones, pretty much anything goes, so long as it is public knowledge.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 25, 2022, 06:04:32 am
I've got a card, and some wacky properties:
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 25, 2022, 11:04:28 am
Ooo, fun!
Forager
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 25, 2022, 11:34:47 am
Forager|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 27, 2022, 12:14:28 am
Swashbuckler

For “payout” are you judging… • how close it matches to your card on each and all of the items • how close the sum of all items is to the total of your card (example: Monument = 3) • using an unknown method for us to discern?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 28, 2022, 03:59:46 am
Forager|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Swashbuckler|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion

I'm judging payout to be green if all of coins, coffers, buys, favors and VPs are exactly right. Orange means at least one element matches exactly, or overlaps if there are multiple possibilities. And I'm allowing coins/coffers to be interchangeable when looking for orange.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 28, 2022, 09:52:53 pm
Marquis
I glanced through the Promos, but didn’t see anything. In ruling out Allies I was considering Town Crier, before noticing the mess of people in the background behind the crier, lol.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 29, 2022, 02:13:07 am
Forager|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Swashbuckler|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Marquis|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 30, 2022, 12:54:54 pm
Chancellor

Thoughts on today’s guess and the clues so far: Chancellor is absolutely the only card in base Dominion that fits my interpretation of the clues so far. But I also have to do it for the lolz on “drawpile”. Digits whitelist: 3 / Digits blacklist: 1,6,10. For “payout”- buys are out; it has to be coin/coffer (Forager orange) greater than 1 (Swashbuckler would at least be orange).
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 31, 2022, 04:21:35 am
Forager|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Swashbuckler|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Marquis|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Chancellor|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 31, 2022, 01:52:08 pm
I know what card it must be. After guessing Chancellor (and before the results, even), I looked at the whole library and determined there is only one other card that fits my interpretation of the clues so far. But before I post it I have a hypothetical question for you.

If you chose a card that gives exactly +9 coin, and someone guesses a card that has a payout of exactly +8 coin and nothing else, would you grade it red or orange? (Amounts chosen arbitrarily.)
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 31, 2022, 01:53:29 pm
Anyone else can swoop in and snag the win, btw. Now’s your chance.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 31, 2022, 03:46:39 pm
If you chose a card that gives exactly +9 coin, and someone guesses a card that has a payout of exactly +8 coin and nothing else, would you grade it red or orange? (Amounts chosen arbitrarily.)
I choose (or at least review) my properties, and exactly what will count as orange for each property, after I pick my card.

So if I picked Copper and used the "payout" property, I'd probably score Silver as red.
But if I picked Platinum and used the "payout" property, I'd probably score Capital as orange.

All I'll guarantee is that it will still be this:
  • Payout - coins, coffers, buys, favors, VP
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 31, 2022, 03:55:45 pm
Lol well that’s clear as mud ;)

Mandarin
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on March 31, 2022, 04:10:17 pm
Forager|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Swashbuckler|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Marquis|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Chancellor|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion
Mandarin|Digits|People|Drawpile|Payout|Expansion

That was a quick finish!
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on March 31, 2022, 04:52:41 pm
Lol yup! And I could have had it a day sooner if I wanted the take the time to scour the library of cards before yesterday’s guess. If your card was actually Chancellor then Forager would have been orange on Drawpile, I assume. I don’t see anything but Mandarin, given the first three guesses and clues. (Ruling out “1” as a digit really pared the pool of cards down a ton, among other clues.)

I’ll wait until this evening (or longer) before starting up a new round. Until then, it’s open for anyone else to take over instead.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 01, 2022, 12:20:55 pm
Anyone think we could retire this thread and just keep Quardle going? We don’t have multiple guessers per day anymore… But I’m good either way, retire or not.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 19, 2022, 08:16:09 am
Anyone think we could retire this thread and just keep Quardle going? We don’t have multiple guessers per day anymore… But I’m good either way, retire or not.
Fine to keep this for anyone who wants a one-off game, rather than the ongoing Quardle thing.

Or for experimentation.

On which note, here's a crazy experiment. My card is Smithy; what five properties am I using to score your guesses? (I will call them A, B, C, D, E for now!)

Smithy|A|B|C|D|E
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 19, 2022, 10:30:33 am
Militia

Hi, buddy. My free-time lately hasn’t been what it used to be. I’m still hoping to jump back in the Quardle game soon. At a quick glance, I’m surprised the other guy hasn’t tried an Action-Duration guess for your card yet.

Anyway, this looks cool. And I’m reminded I left a puzzle myself in this thread a while back. I might resurrect it at some point.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 19, 2022, 10:50:36 am
Smithy|A|B|C|D|E
Militia|A|B|C|D|E
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 19, 2022, 06:34:56 pm
Village

Forgoing the guess limits until anyone else pops in.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 19, 2022, 08:06:37 pm
At a quick glance, I’m surprised the other guy hasn’t tried an Action-Duration guess for your card yet.
Self-derp here; didn’t see your Quardle card is in Dark Ages.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: weretheruler on April 19, 2022, 10:17:03 pm
Old Witch
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 20, 2022, 04:55:55 am
Smithy|A|B|C|D|E
Militia|A|B|C|D|E
Village|A|B|C|D|E
Old Witch|A|B|C|D|E
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 20, 2022, 11:10:21 am
Are we submitting the 5 guesses all at once? Actions and Expansion are not here. A/E could be Draw/Handsize (leaning towards A if it’s Draw, E if it’s Handsize), D could be Types, Cost could be B/C. Not seeing anything for Set Of Digits or Payout. B/C could be People.

Caravan
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 20, 2022, 11:26:32 am
Smithy|A|B|C|D|E
Militia|A|B|C|D|E
Village|A|B|C|D|E
Old Witch|A|B|C|D|E
Caravan|A|B|C|D|E

Are we submitting the 5 guesses all at once?
I'm happy for you to submit guesses for individual properties (eg "A is Expansion") and I'll confirm or reject them. I might even provide a counter-example for incorrect guesses, but I think you want to minimise the number of incorrect guesses, rather than using them to get info.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 20, 2022, 11:36:50 am
A is Draw
B is People
C is Cost
D is Player Interaction
E is Handsize
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 21, 2022, 03:07:29 am
A is Draw
B is People
C is Cost
D is Player Interaction
E is Handsize
Wow, very close. All correct except for A.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 21, 2022, 11:27:45 am
Awesome

Gold
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 22, 2022, 03:37:27 am
I should probably give a counter-example to your guess for A - see Young Witch.

Smithy|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Militia|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Village|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Old Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Caravan|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Gold|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Young Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: weretheruler on April 22, 2022, 10:38:35 am
I'll guess that A is the set of basic +'s on the card - cards, actions, money, buys.

I'll guess Forager to try to prove or disprove that.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 22, 2022, 11:10:21 am
Smithy|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Militia|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Village|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Old Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Caravan|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Gold|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Young Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Forager|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Lackeys|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize

I'll guess that A is the set of basic +'s on the card - cards, actions, money, buys.
Almost. Counter example is Lackeys.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 25, 2022, 01:19:04 pm
Is A similar to your “Payout” property?

Watchtower
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 26, 2022, 02:49:20 am
Smithy|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Militia|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Village|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Old Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Caravan|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Gold|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Young Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Forager|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Lackeys|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Watchtower|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize

Is A similar to your “Payout” property?
Not really.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 28, 2022, 11:29:01 am
I’m tempted to give up here. You got a real head-scratcher. A younger me would be more determined to work it out, lol. @weretheruler you got any more ideas?

I’m going to cheat.
Peddler
Great Hall
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 28, 2022, 11:29:58 am
Forgot to add- Is this a property you’ve used before?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 28, 2022, 11:50:45 am
Smithy|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Militia|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Village|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Old Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Caravan|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Gold|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Young Witch|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Forager|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Lackeys|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Watchtower|A|People|Cost|Interaction|Handsize
Peddler|A|...
Great Hall|A|...

Forgot to add- Is this a property you’ve used before?
No.

weretheruler's guess was very close, there were very few counter-examples I could have given for it.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: weretheruler on April 28, 2022, 06:40:07 pm
All +'s - cards, actions, buys, $, coffers, villagers.
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: infangthief on April 29, 2022, 03:08:17 am
All +'s - cards, actions, buys, $, coffers, villagers.
Yes. Exact wording I had was "set of bolded items in the card text".
So it is that list, and +VP also. And also $ and VP that appear without the "+" would count. But $ (without "+") never appears with +Cards, so I think the only counter-examples I could give now would be Overgrown Estate and Wild Hunt, which use +Cards and VP.

So that experiment was interesting. I was surprised how quickly vidicate got B,C,D,E. Was it fun from the guessing end or not?
Title: Re: Cardle
Post by: vidicate on April 29, 2022, 01:31:09 pm
All +'s - cards, actions, buys, $, coffers, villagers.
Yes. Exact wording I had was "set of bolded items in the card text".
So it is that list, and +VP also. And also $ and VP that appear without the "+" would count. But $ (without "+") never appears with +Cards, so I think the only counter-examples I could give now would be Overgrown Estate and Wild Hunt, which use +Cards and VP.

So that experiment was interesting. I was surprised how quickly vidicate got B,C,D,E. Was it fun from the guessing end or not?

That last property was annoying, lol. Good job weretheruler.
Yeah, I had B/C in some order, and chose Caravan to lock them (and try to figure out A/E). D was just my best guess. E I was pretty sure of. A I threw with the rest just to check it off, since I was certain that A and E couldn’t both be true. That was pretty fun though, really. :D