Basically that template is a solution in search of a problem. It's an expression of confidence that someday someone will have the perfect idea that can best (or only) be expressed by a double-sided card.
Fame | Fortune -- $4
Fame
Treasure - Janus
+1 Coffers
Fortune
Treasure - Janus
$3
(https://i.imgur.com/EEeHNYOh.png) | (https://i.imgur.com/8XPZGUjh.png) | (https://i.imgur.com/Xw97NuZh.png) |
Quote Fire | Water -- $4 | Quote Supplier | Distributor -- $5 | Quote Spring Village | Cherry Blossom -- $4 |
(https://i.imgur.com/PpIRl8Ah.png) | (https://i.imgur.com/femfVyNh.png) | |
Quote Dark Bargain | Dark Trade -- $4 | Quote Hearth | Home -- $4 |
(https://i.imgur.com/t3mbiC9h.png) | (https://i.imgur.com/pGencrmh.png) |
Quote Dark | Stormy -- $2 | Quote Daydream | Nightmare -- $5 |
Sloop | Junk -- $4
Sloop -- Action - Duration - Janus
At the start of your next turn: +2 Card, +1 Buy
Junk -- Action - Duration - Janus
+1 Action
+$2
At the start of your next turn: +$1.
Also I am not 100% sure what the order of execution would be, but I'm going to assume you do your part first and then the other players do theirs.
The concept is fine, but I'm not sure that there is enough of interest to do with it that couldn't be done equally well with existing mechanics . . . But I'm not sold on the others (see below). In general balancing these is so much harder than balancing other fan cards because there is just so much to consider.
How do these work with Wishing Well type effects? What is the card's name while it is not in play?
What about cards that care about card types (e.g. Ironmonger, Courtier, etc)? If I reveal Nightmare/Daydream with Courtier, would I get 2 or 3 options to choose from?
What about cards that care about card types (e.g. Ironmonger, Courtier, etc)? If I reveal Nightmare/Daydream with Courtier, would I get 2 or 3 options to choose from?
Definitely 3. Nightmare/Daydream has 3 types: Action, Night, and Janus. The fact that two of those types only apply to part of the card doesn't change the fact that the card "has" them. Moreover, if it was somehow possible to go from the Night phase back to the Buy phase, and you had played Nightmare as a Night, it would still reduce the cost of Peddler by $2, since it is an Action card you have in play.
What about cards that care about card types (e.g. Ironmonger, Courtier, etc)? If I reveal Nightmare/Daydream with Courtier, would I get 2 or 3 options to choose from?
Definitely 3. Nightmare/Daydream has 3 types: Action, Night, and Janus. The fact that two of those types only apply to part of the card doesn't change the fact that the card "has" them. Moreover, if it was somehow possible to go from the Night phase back to the Buy phase, and you had played Nightmare as a Night, it would still reduce the cost of Peddler by $2, since it is an Action card you have in play.
So then you could also play Imp or Conclave, then play Nightmare in your Action phase, since it is on an Action-Night-Janus card.
What about cards that care about card types (e.g. Ironmonger, Courtier, etc)? If I reveal Nightmare/Daydream with Courtier, would I get 2 or 3 options to choose from?
Definitely 3. Nightmare/Daydream has 3 types: Action, Night, and Janus. The fact that two of those types only apply to part of the card doesn't change the fact that the card "has" them. Moreover, if it was somehow possible to go from the Night phase back to the Buy phase, and you had played Nightmare as a Night, it would still reduce the cost of Peddler by $2, since it is an Action card you have in play.
So then you could also play Imp or Conclave, then play Nightmare in your Action phase, since it is on an Action-Night-Janus card.
What about cards that care about card types (e.g. Ironmonger, Courtier, etc)? If I reveal Nightmare/Daydream with Courtier, would I get 2 or 3 options to choose from?
Definitely 3. Nightmare/Daydream has 3 types: Action, Night, and Janus. The fact that two of those types only apply to part of the card doesn't change the fact that the card "has" them. Moreover, if it was somehow possible to go from the Night phase back to the Buy phase, and you had played Nightmare as a Night, it would still reduce the cost of Peddler by $2, since it is an Action card you have in play.
So then you could also play Imp or Conclave, then play Nightmare in your Action phase, since it is on an Action-Night-Janus card.
This also shouldn't be specific tied to Imp or Conclave, though, right? i.e. If the type is "Action-Night-Janus" you would be able to play it during your Action phase anytime, but choose the Night option. Which feels weird.
What about cards that care about card types (e.g. Ironmonger, Courtier, etc)? If I reveal Nightmare/Daydream with Courtier, would I get 2 or 3 options to choose from?
Definitely 3. Nightmare/Daydream has 3 types: Action, Night, and Janus. The fact that two of those types only apply to part of the card doesn't change the fact that the card "has" them. Moreover, if it was somehow possible to go from the Night phase back to the Buy phase, and you had played Nightmare as a Night, it would still reduce the cost of Peddler by $2, since it is an Action card you have in play.
So then you could also play Imp or Conclave, then play Nightmare in your Action phase, since it is on an Action-Night-Janus card.
This also shouldn't be specific tied to Imp or Conclave, though, right? i.e. If the type is "Action-Night-Janus" you would be able to play it during your Action phase anytime, but choose the Night option. Which feels weird.
An official card with Action-Night (Werewolf) specifies how you play it, depending on which phase it's in. Maybe the Action-Night-Janus (and any similar) would have to specify the same thing? It would get quite awkward though, because then Nightmare would say "if it's your Night phase, ..." and if you play Daydream then other players get the Nightmare benefit (except they would get nothing, since it's not your or their Night phase). So then it's broken? Is there a way to fix it without adding a ton of text?
(https://i.imgur.com/pfa51kZh.png) | Quote from: TwoBirdsOneStone Two Birds | One Stone -- $4 |
This also shouldn't be specific tied to Imp or Conclave, though, right? i.e. If the type is "Action-Night-Janus" you would be able to play it during your Action phase anytime, but choose the Night option. Which feels weird.
An official card with Action-Night (Werewolf) specifies how you play it, depending on which phase it's in. Maybe the Action-Night-Janus (and any similar) would have to specify the same thing? It would get quite awkward though, because then Nightmare would say "if it's your Night phase, ..." and if you play Daydream then other players get the Nightmare benefit (except they would get nothing, since it's not your or their Night phase). So then it's broken? Is there a way to fix it without adding a ton of text?
Maybe just specify in the rules for the Janus type that if the two sides have different basic types, you can only play the side that matches the current phase. E.g., if one side is Action - Janus and the other side is Night - Janus, you can only play the Action side during your Action phase and the Night side during your Night phase
Sorry just wanted to say I opened your post just to absentmindedly skim it without reading the explanation and I legitimately thought I was having a stroke when looking at the cards. I still have whiplash from my brain trying to comprehend what I was looking at before realizing they are double sided cards.