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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: LibraryAdventurer on January 24, 2021, 03:21:43 am

Title: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on January 24, 2021, 03:21:43 am
"Play Something Else" Kingdom:
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Crossroads.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Druid.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Black Market.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Herald.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Necromancer.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Golem.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Cultist.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Jester.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Captain.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Overlord.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Inheritance.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Ferry.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Way_of_the_Mouse.jpg): WotMouse: Lurker

"Capitalism" kingdom:
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Tracker.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Vassal.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Bard.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Ironworks.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Port.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Storyteller.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Livery.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Scepter.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Merchant Guild.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Goons.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Capitalism.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Way of the Chameleon.jpg)

"Fortress Fun"
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Develop.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Fortress.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Remake.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Sacrifice.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Procession.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Salvager.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Necromancer.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Catacombs.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Graverobber.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Apprentice.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Alms.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Advance.jpg)  (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Cathedral.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Way_of_the_Butterfly.jpg)

"Excessive Trashing"
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Chapel.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Urchin.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Remake.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Baron.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Rogue.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Bishop.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Pirate Ship.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Cartographer.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Stables.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Forge.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Donate.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Plan.jpg)  (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Fountain.jpg).

"Madman or the Highway" kingdom:
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Page.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=University.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Urchin.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Hermit.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Market Square.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Inventor.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Skulk.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Knights.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Highway.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Goons.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Travelling Fair.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Fleet.jpg)

"Gain the world and lose your soul" kingdom:
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Stonemason.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Swindler.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Inventor.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Devil's Workshop.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Exorcist.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Cobbler.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Highway.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Jester.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Vampire.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=King's Court.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Colony.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Platinum.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Ball.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Ferry.jpg)  (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Canal.jpg)
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on January 24, 2021, 01:51:42 pm
Ultimate Slog
Beggar
Squire
Catapult
Philosopher's Stone
Bureaucrat
Marauder
Sea Hag
Ghost Ship
Haunted Woods
Mountebank
Events: Raid, Tax

Wake Me When You Finish Your Turn
Hamlet
Scrying Pool
Fool
Oracle
Storeroom
Villa
Artificer
Outpost
Possession
King's Court
Use Colonies
Events: Mission, Seize The Day
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Gubump on January 24, 2021, 10:32:59 pm
Quote from: Commodore Chuckles on January 24, 2021, 01:51:42 pm

Wake Me When You Finish Your Turn
Hamlet
Scrying Pool
Fool
Oracle
Storeroom
Villa
Artificer
Outpost
Possession
King's Court
Use Colonies
Events: Mission, Seize The Day

This would be even worse--err, better--if you replaced Hamlet with Philosopher's Stone and Storeroom with Cavalry. Then you have players returning to their Action phase even more, and continually counting their decks.
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Gubump on January 24, 2021, 10:41:03 pm
Village Idiot
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Throne Room.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Village.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Farming Village.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Border Village.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Inn.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Fortress.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Wandering Minstrel.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Port.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=University.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Walled Village.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Barracks.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Lost Arts.jpg)
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: kieranmillar on January 25, 2021, 02:49:36 am
Possession
<any combination of 9 kingdom cards and landmarks>
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: GendoIkari on January 25, 2021, 10:49:45 am
Quote from: Gubump on January 24, 2021, 10:41:03 pm
Village Idiot

Wandering Minstrel and Farming Village can help some by skipping over victory cards. Though you'll still be better off buying Silver instead.
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on January 26, 2021, 04:25:24 pm
Quote from: GendoIkari on January 25, 2021, 10:49:45 am
Quote from: Gubump on January 24, 2021, 10:41:03 pm
Village Idiot

Wandering Minstrel and Farming Village can help some by skipping over victory cards. Though you'll still be better off buying Silver instead.

Wandering Minstrel doesn't actually help, though, because it also skips over your Treasures, which are the only useful things here. I'd say replace Farming Village with Acting Troupe for the true Village Idiot kingdom.
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: GendoIkari on January 26, 2021, 05:55:16 pm
Quote from: Commodore Chuckles on January 26, 2021, 04:25:24 pm
Quote from: GendoIkari on January 25, 2021, 10:49:45 am
Quote from: Gubump on January 24, 2021, 10:41:03 pm
Village Idiot

Wandering Minstrel and Farming Village can help some by skipping over victory cards. Though you'll still be better off buying Silver instead.

Wandering Minstrel doesn't actually help, though, because it also skips over your Treasures, which are the only useful things here. I'd say replace Farming Village with Acting Troupe for the true Village Idiot kingdom.

If you get super lucky; Wandering Minstrel could skip victory cards, even 3 of them with a single play. And since you can't get rid of your starting Estates; you can use that luck to skip all 3 Estates every trip through the deck. But yes, Acting Troupe definitely belongs there.
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: X-tra on January 26, 2021, 08:42:23 pm
Dominion: The Novel
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/63/Noble_Brigand.jpg/200px-Noble_Brigand.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Pirate_Ship.jpg/200px-Pirate_Ship.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4c/Giant.jpg/200px-Giant.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3b/Possession.jpg/200px-Possession.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ea/Prince.jpg/200px-Prince.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/79/Scrying_Pool.jpg/200px-Scrying_Pool.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fa/Black_Market.jpg/200px-Black_Market.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b2/Doctor.jpg/200px-Doctor.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8e/Hermit.jpg/200px-Hermit.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c1/Herald.jpg/200px-Herald.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ee/Pilgrimage.jpg/320px-Pilgrimage.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/02/Inheritance.jpg/320px-Inheritance.jpg)



Writer’s Block
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Bazaar.jpg/200px-Bazaar.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ec/Festival.jpg/200px-Festival.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0c/Laboratory.jpg/200px-Laboratory.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2e/Scholar.jpg/200px-Scholar.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9d/Harem.jpg/200px-Harem.jpg)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/90/Acting_Troupe.jpg/200px-Acting_Troupe.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5a/Village.jpg/200px-Village.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ee/Bard.jpg/200px-Bard.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ad/Monument.jpg/200px-Monument.jpg)
 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Smithy.jpg/200px-Smithy.jpg)
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on January 26, 2021, 11:21:29 pm
The Prince And The Pauper
Poor House
Beggar
Herbalist
Pearl Diver
Vagrant
Bank
Expand
Forge
King's Court
Prince
Use Shelters and Colonies

King's Court Is So Useless!
Fool
Duplicate
Treasure Map
Counting House
Distant Lands
Library
Outpost
Pillage
Scholar
King's Court
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: spineflu on January 26, 2021, 11:40:03 pm
It's Silver
Cargo Ship
Chancellor
Conspirator
Duchess
Embargo
Improve
Monument
Navigator
Royal Seal
Scavenger

Event: Delay


edit: swapped bard for cargo ship; bard could technically get you +buy or +actions
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Jack Rudd on January 26, 2021, 11:46:34 pm
Quote from: Commodore Chuckles on January 26, 2021, 11:21:29 pm
King's Court Is So Useless!
Fool
Duplicate
Treasure Map
Counting House
Distant Lands
Library
Outpost
Pillage
Scholar
King's Court
It's still possibly useful there, because of (a) Will-o-Wisp and (b) the ability to do KC chains, but it's not as good as it usually is.
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: LittleFish on January 27, 2021, 12:13:00 am
Quote from: Jack Rudd on January 26, 2021, 11:46:34 pm
Quote from: Commodore Chuckles on January 26, 2021, 11:21:29 pm
King's Court Is So Useless!
Fool
Duplicate
Treasure Map
Counting House
Distant Lands
Library
Outpost
Pillage
Scholar
King's Court
It's still possibly useful there, because of (a) Will-o-Wisp and (b) the ability to do KC chains, but it's not as good as it usually is.
The pre-2019 Pillage still works well with kings court
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: Jack Rudd on February 19, 2021, 11:08:30 am
I'm sorry, were you doing something?

Black Market
Caravan Guard
Tunnel
Herald
Horse Traders
Village Green
Crown
Merchant Guild
Werewolf
Goons

Inheritance
Way of the Mouse: Vassal
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: silverspawn on February 19, 2021, 03:01:58 pm
Quote from: X-tra on January 26, 2021, 08:42:23 pm

These are not bad, but they may have been funnier before the pictures loaded.
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: bargainingspice on April 11, 2021, 01:00:45 pm
Covid and Corvids:

Vampire
Cursed Village
Ill-Gotten Gains
Vineyard
Border Guard
Magpie
Tragic Hero
Laboratory
Baker
Swamp Hag
--
Barracks
Gamble
Title: Re: Really Bad Kingdom Ideas
Post by: joefarebrother on April 11, 2021, 01:24:47 pm
Way of the Mouse on Swindler