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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: Gubump on December 23, 2020, 02:10:48 am

Title: Livery + Destrier
Post by: Gubump on December 23, 2020, 02:10:48 am
If I play a Livery, and Destriers currently cost (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2a/Coin4.png/16px-Coin4.png), then when I buy a Destrier, do I gain a Horse? Or does the fact that Destriers now cost (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Coin3.png/16px-Coin3.png) mean that I don't get a Horse? In other words, is the cost of the Destrier evaluated for Livery purposes before or after gaining it?
Title: Re: Livery + Destrier
Post by: mxdata on December 23, 2020, 02:37:29 am
I'm pretty sure the answer is that you do gain a Horse, because at the time that you gained the Destrier, it cost $4.  The fact that after you gained it, its price changed, isn't relevant to Livery's instructions (of course, it does become relevant if you buy a second Destrier after that, since the second Destrier would be $2 at the time of gaining)
Title: Re: Livery + Destrier
Post by: Gubump on December 23, 2020, 02:41:25 am
I'm pretty sure the answer is that you do gain a Horse, because at the time that you gained the Destrier, it cost $4.  The fact that after you gained it, its price changed, isn't relevant to Livery's instructions (of course, it does become relevant if you buy a second Destrier after that, since the second Destrier would be $2 at the time of gaining)

That makes sense. Thanks.
Title: Re: Livery + Destrier
Post by: Jeebus on December 30, 2020, 04:50:24 am
This is also answered in the Complete Rules for Dominion and All Its Expansions (https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/131854/complete-rules-dominion-and-all-its-expansions):

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If you gain a Destrier costing $4, you gain a Horse from Livery: Even though Destrier’s cost is $3 right after you gain it, Livery has already triggered. In the same way, if you gain a Fisherman costing $2 because your discard pile is empty, you don’t gain a Horse even though Fisherman’s cost goes up to $5. Also: If you played Livery twice, and you gain a Wayfarer costing $4 or more, both abilities trigger—gaining you two Horses—even though Wayfarer costs $3 after you gain the first one.