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Miscellaneous => Forum Games => Non-Mafia Game Threads => Topic started by: ghostofmars on January 31, 2020, 03:06:25 am
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Decrypto is a game that usually appeals to the same people as Codenames does.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/225694/decrypto
Players compete in two teams in Decrypto, with each trying to correctly interpret the coded messages presented to them by their teammates while cracking the codes they intercept from the opposing team.
In more detail, each team has their own screen, and in this screen they tuck four cards in pockets numbered 1-4, letting everyone on the same team see the words on these cards while hiding the words from the opposing team. In the first round, each team does the following: One team member takes a code card that shows three of the digits 1-4 in some order, e.g., 4-2-1. They then give a coded message that their teammates must use to guess this code. For example, if the team's four words are "pig", "candy", "tent", and "son", then I might say "Sam-striped-pink" and hope that my teammates can correctly map those words to 4-2-1. If they guess correctly, great; if not, we receive a black mark of failure.
Starting in the second round, a member of each team must again give a clue about their words to match a numbered code. If I get 2-4-3, I might now say, "sucker-prince-stake". The other team then attempts to guess our numbered code. If they're correct, they receive a white mark of success; if not, then my team must guess the number correctly or take a black mark of failure. (Guessing correctly does nothing except avoid failure and give the opposing team information about what our hidden words might be.)
The rounds continue until a team collects either its second white mark (winning the game) or its second black mark (losing the game). Games typically last between 4-7 rounds. If neither team has won after eight rounds, then each team must attempt to guess the other team's words; whichever team guesses more words correctly wins.
There is a word list generator we could use here: https://whoawhoa.github.io/decrypto/#
1) Cluegivers generate a code using the same site, make clues and post them to the game thread.
2) Guessers guess their own teams code. Starting round 2, teams simultaneously discuss about the opponent's clue and try to guess their code.
3a) If you guess the clue of your own team, you post it in the team quicktopic.
3b) If you guess the clue of the opposing team, you post it in spoilers in the game thread.
4) Once all guesses are ready, the cluegivers state their partner's guess, reveal the correct codes and tokens are assigned.
5) Start new round with switched cluegivers.
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We should discuss how we deal with multiple players in a team. How do they discuss which clue to submit for their own team?
- In the hidden QT without discussing strategy.
- In a new QT for each round, that becomes public after the clues are revealed.
- One player from the team is assigned to submit the clue.
- Other ideas you can come up with.
For the teams, I suggest to split Uncleeurope and bitwise and then mix and match the old teams
Uncleeurope + Watno(1) or scolapasta(2) Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1
+ faust(1) or ghostofmars(2) Rolled 1d2 : 2, total 2
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/in
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It's hard to find a good system. Any discussion will help the team figure out what kind of associations their teammates have with the words. Maybe the simplest is just one of them submits, and no discussion?
I would try to mix up pairings of who gives the clues and who guesses as much as possible.
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I would prefer being able to confer with my teammates at the risk of leaking info, but I guess there isn't a great way to do this online. In person you're allowed to talk, but there is a lot of pointing at words and gesturing so that the other team can't quite tell what you're saying. I don't think that translates well here.
I guess my vote is for in the hidden QT without discussing strategy.
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Yeah, I think just don't talk about strategy. Also nothing along the lines of "he woul have said "x" instead of "y" if he meant that about your own teams clue.
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So we can debate the numbers without giving the reasons?
"I like 2-3-1"
"I think 2-4-1 is better"
Seems like it'd be challenging to settle on one, but I get the purpose, sure.
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I think we just need to put some rule in place so we can start this. As long as it is clear to the cluegivers that they should not rely on secret discussions to give clues, discussing things is probably not the end of the world. At the very least, both teams benefit equally.
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So we can debate the numbers without giving the reasons?
"I like 2-3-1"
"I think 2-4-1 is better"
Seems like it'd be challenging to settle on one, but I get the purpose, sure.
Giving the reason is fine, unless the reason indicates a clue you are going to give later.
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Fair enough - I'm sure common sense will be enough. Let's get started!
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Fair enough - I'm sure common sense will be enough. Let's get started!
You know, there's nothing stopping you from getting it started :P
I have created a QT for our team and sent it to my teammates (i.e. scolapasta, bitwise). It was determined that bitwise will give the first clue.
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I am going to /out for the sake of jimmmm and my schedule.
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I'm ready to give my clue. Should I give it now or wait until the other team is more ready?
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I created a QT for our team. Here is the first clue
prime - post - zero
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Our clue: Sun - Culture - Oil.
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Our team guesses 1-2-4.
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That is correct.
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2-1-4
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That is correct
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So round 2 now, yeah? My turn to give a clue?
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So round 2 now, yeah? My turn to give a clue?
Indeed.
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BUILDING - QUAKE - WIZARD
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Fire - Water - Ice
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Our guess for your Round 2 clue is:
1-3-4
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My team guesses 1-2-4, which is correct.
Our guess for your clue is 2-4-3
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Our guess for your Round 2 clue is:
1-3-4
Wow, that was close.
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My team guesses 2-3-4, which is correct.
Round 2: no miscommunications, no intercepts.
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Stealing ghost's nice summmary posts from last time as I found them quite helpful.
Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Prime - Post - Zero (code: 2-1-4, guess: 2-1-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Fire - Water - Ice (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: 1-3-4)
Clues for 1 Post, Fire
Clues for 2 Prime, Water
Clues for 4 Zero, Ice
team bitwise/faust/scolapasta
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Sun - Culture - Oil (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Building - Quake - Wizard (code: 2-3-4, guess: 2-3-4, interception: 2-4-3)
Clues for 1 Sun
Clues for 2 Culture, Building
Clues for 3 Quake
Clues for 4 Oil, Wizard
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Rise - Move - Join
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Our guess for your Round 2 clue is:
1-3-4
Wow, that was close.
We're onto you 8)
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Uncleeurope
The other team is actually ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno, right?
Thanks for posting the summary--I agree that they're quite nice. :)
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Mister - Corner - Murder
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Uncleeurope
The other team is actually ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno, right?
Thanks for posting the summary--I agree that they're quite nice. :)
Whoops, right... I had in mind that Eddie was still in here. Well, I'll go fix it.
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Guess for yours: 3-2-4
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For your clue, we guess: 4-1-3
For our own team's clue, we guess 2-4-3.
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For your clue, we guess: 4-1-3
For our own team's clue, we guess 2-4-3.
The correct answer was 1-4-2. Sorry guys.
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guess for ours: 3-1-4
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guess for ours: 3-1-4
Correct!
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Our team's clue: Box - Apostrophe - Land
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Prime - Post - Zero (code: 2-1-4, guess: 2-1-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Fire - Water - Ice (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: 1-3-4)
Round 3 Mister - Corner - Murder (code: 3-1-4, guess: 3-1-4, interception: 4-1-3)
Clues for 1 Post, Fire, Corner
Clues for 2 Prime, Water
Clues for 3 Mister
Clues for 4 Zero, Ice, Murder
team bitwise/faust/scolapasta
0 Interception tokens
1 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Sun - Culture - Oil (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Building - Quake - Wizard (code: 2-3-4, guess: 2-3-4, interception: 2-4-3)
Round 3 Rise - Move - Join (code: 1-4-2, guess: 2-4-3, interception: 3-2-4)
Clues for 1 Sun, Rise
Clues for 2 Culture, Building, Join
Clues for 3 Quake
Clues for 4 Oil, Wizard, Move
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Heartbeat - Spill - Switch
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Our guess for your clue is 2 - 3 - 4.
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Our guess for your clue is 3 - 2 - 4.
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For ours, we guess: 4-1-2
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For ours, we guess: 4-1-2
That is correct. We are still in the game!!
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Watno and Jimmmmm guess 2-3-1 which is correct.
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Round 5: Muffle-Wide-Gold
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Prime - Post - Zero (code: 2-1-4, guess: 2-1-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Fire - Water - Ice (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: 1-3-4)
Round 3 Mister - Corner - Murder (code: 3-1-4, guess: 3-1-4, interception: 4-1-3)
Round 4 Heartbeat - Spill - Switch (code: 2-3-1, guess 2-3-1, interception: 2-3-4)
Clues for 1 Post, Fire, Corner. Switch
Clues for 2 Prime, Water, Heartbeat
Clues for 3 Mister, Spill
Clues for 4 Zero, Ice, Murder
team bitwise/faust/scolapasta
0 Interception tokens
1 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Sun - Culture - Oil (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Building - Quake - Wizard (code: 2-3-4, guess: 2-3-4, interception: 2-4-3)
Round 3 Rise - Move - Join (code: 1-4-2, guess: 2-4-3, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 4 Box - Apostrophe - Land (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 3-2-4)
Clues for 1 Sun, Rise, Apostrophe
Clues for 2 Culture, Building, Join, Land
Clues for 3 Quake
Clues for 4 Oil, Wizard, Move, Box
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Waiting for Jimmmmm, right?
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Waiting for Jimmmmm, right?
No, for you :P
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Well, that explains why it's taking so long :P
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Doctor - Shade - Air
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Good thing you asked at least. :P
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Our guess for your clue is 1 - 4 - 2.
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Our guess for our clue is 4-1-2
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Our guess for our clue is 4-1-2
4-1-2 is correct.
Our guess for your clue is 3-1-4
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Our guess for our clue is 4-2-3 and is correct.
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Prime - Post - Zero (code: 2-1-4, guess: 2-1-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Fire - Water - Ice (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: 1-3-4)
Round 3 Mister - Corner - Murder (code: 3-1-4, guess: 3-1-4, interception: 4-1-3)
Round 4 Heartbeat - Spill - Switch (code: 2-3-1, guess 2-3-1, interception: 2-3-4)
Round 5 Doctor - Shade - Air (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 1-4-2)
Clues for 1 Post, Fire, Corner, Switch, Shade
Clues for 2 Prime, Water, Heartbeat, Air
Clues for 3 Mister, Spill
Clues for 4 Zero, Ice, Murder, Doctor
team bitwise/faust/scolapasta
0 Interception tokens
1 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Sun - Culture - Oil (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Building - Quake - Wizard (code: 2-3-4, guess: 2-3-4, interception: 2-4-3)
Round 3 Rise - Move - Join (code: 1-4-2, guess: 2-4-3, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 4 Box - Apostrophe - Land (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 5: Muffle - Wide - Gold (code: 4-2-3, guess: 4-2-3, interception: 3-1-4)
Clues for 1 Sun, Rise, Apostrophe
Clues for 2 Culture, Building, Join, Land, Wide
Clues for 3 Quake, Gold
Clues for 4 Oil, Wizard, Move, Box, Muffle
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License - Birth - Sail
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Is it clear whose turn it is on your side? ;)
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Waiting for Jimmmmm, right?
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Green - Right - Wardrobe
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So, somehow both teams have been slackers here, but let's get this going again!
Our guess for your clue is: 3-2-4
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Our guess for your clue 4-2-1
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Our guess for your clue 4-2-1
Our team guesses 3-2-1, which is correct.
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We guess 3-4-1 for our clue.
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We guess 3-4-1 for our clue.
Correct.
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ghostofmars and bitwise to give the next set of clues unless I'm mistaken
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Acknowledged -- I'll try to have a clue later today.
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Clue:
Knight - Seat - Tree
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Prime - Post - Zero (code: 2-1-4, guess: 2-1-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Fire - Water - Ice (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: 1-3-4)
Round 3 Mister - Corner - Murder (code: 3-1-4, guess: 3-1-4, interception: 4-1-3)
Round 4 Heartbeat - Spill - Switch (code: 2-3-1, guess 2-3-1, interception: 2-3-4)
Round 5 Doctor - Shade - Air (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 1-4-2)
Round 6 Green - Right - Wardrobe (code: 3-4-1, guess: 3-4-1, interception: 3-2-4)
Clues for 1 Post, Fire, Corner, Switch, Shade, Wardrobe
Clues for 2 Prime, Water, Heartbeat, Air
Clues for 3 Mister, Spill, Green
Clues for 4 Zero, Ice, Murder, Doctor, Right
team bitwise/faust/scolapasta
0 Interception tokens
1 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Sun - Culture - Oil (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Building - Quake - Wizard (code: 2-3-4, guess: 2-3-4, interception: 2-4-3)
Round 3 Rise - Move - Join (code: 1-4-2, guess: 2-4-3, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 4 Box - Apostrophe - Land (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 5 Muffle - Wide - Gold (code: 4-2-3, guess: 4-2-3, interception: 3-1-4)
Round 6 License - Birth - Sail (code: 3-2-1, guess: 3-2-1, interception: 4-2-1)
Clues for 1 Sun, Rise, Apostrophe, Sail
Clues for 2 Culture, Building, Join, Land, Wide, Birth
Clues for 3 Quake, Gold, License
Clues for 4 Oil, Wizard, Move, Box, Muffle
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Counter - Magic - Gym
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Our guess for your clue is 3-1-2
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Jimmmmm and Watno guess 3-1-2, you guess the same. All of you are correct.
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Guessing 2-4-1 for yours
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faust and scolapasta guess 3-4-1, which is correct.
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Summary
team ghostofmars/Jimmmmm/Watno
0 Interception tokens
0 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Prime - Post - Zero (code: 2-1-4, guess: 2-1-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Fire - Water - Ice (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: 1-3-4)
Round 3 Mister - Corner - Murder (code: 3-1-4, guess: 3-1-4, interception: 4-1-3)
Round 4 Heartbeat - Spill - Switch (code: 2-3-1, guess 2-3-1, interception: 2-3-4)
Round 5 Doctor - Shade - Air (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 1-4-2)
Round 6 Green - Right - Wardrobe (code: 3-4-1, guess: 3-4-1, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 7 Counter - Magic - Gym (code: 3-1-2, guess: 3-1-2, interception: 3-1-2)
Clues for 1 Post, Fire, Corner, Switch, Shade, Wardrobe, Magic
Clues for 2 Prime, Water, Heartbeat, Air, Gym
Clues for 3 Mister, Spill, Green, Counter
Clues for 4 Zero, Ice, Murder, Doctor, Right
team bitwise/faust/scolapasta
1 Interception tokens
1 Miscommunication tokens
Round 1 Sun - Culture - Oil (code: 1-2-4, guess: 1-2-4, interception: N/A)
Round 2 Building - Quake - Wizard (code: 2-3-4, guess: 2-3-4, interception: 2-4-3)
Round 3 Rise - Move - Join (code: 1-4-2, guess: 2-4-3, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 4 Box - Apostrophe - Land (code: 4-1-2, guess: 4-1-2, interception: 3-2-4)
Round 5 Muffle - Wide - Gold (code: 4-2-3, guess: 4-2-3, interception: 3-1-4)
Round 6 License - Birth - Sail (code: 3-2-1, guess: 3-2-1, interception: 4-2-1)
Round 7 Knight - Seat - Tree (code: 3-4-1, guess: 3-4-1, interception: 2-4-1)
Clues for 1 Sun, Rise, Apostrophe, Sail, Tree
Clues for 2 Culture, Building, Join, Land, Wide, Birth
Clues for 3 Quake, Gold, License, Knight
Clues for 4 Oil, Wizard, Move, Box, Muffle, Seat
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fish - uphill - stalk
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Sorry, everyone, I completely slipped on this! I'll have our team's clue here tonight (i.e. next few hours).
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Dance - Family - Jamaica
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Our guess for your clue is 2 - 4 -3.
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Ping to the other team. We're so close to the end--let's finish!
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bump
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Our guess for ours is 1-2-3
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Our guess for your clue is 3 - 4 - 2.
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Our guess for our clue was 1-4-2.
1-4-2 is correct.
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1-2-3 is correct for ours.
That means we need to guess the other teams words now, unless I'm mistaken.
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Yes, that's what the rules say.
Here are our guesses for your words:
1. Lamp
2. Pump
3. Bean
4. Degree
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Our guesses:
Yours are al correct, so you probably won.
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NICE!
Our words were:
1. Hawaii
2. Nation
3. Plate
4. Van
GG!
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Good game!
Still curious about how Wizard -> Van and about the entire clue we got a miscommunication on.
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Good game!
Still curious about how Wizard -> Van and about the entire clue we got a miscommunication on.
Yeah, that one was mishandled, it was intentionally vague, but too much so. Rise -> Hawaii was like Hawaii rising out of the ocean due to Volcanoes (but I didn't think about the more direct Rise -> Nation connection). And Join for Nation was supposed to be something that wouldn't fit with anything else.
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Good game!
Still curious about how Wizard -> Van and about the entire clue we got a miscommunication on.
Wizard was definitely a stretch, but when I think of vans I always think of people having crazy stuff painted on them, and unicorns and wizards seemed to be common:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/907244944892424192/pu/img/0q74S7jx4-NUvL6W.jpg)
The idea was that a) it wouldn't fit anywhere else, and b) it would really throw them off.
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Good game, I really had no idea what your words were in the end. I'll sit out if there's another game.
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Who's up for another?
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Count me in.
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/in
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/in
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Im out, have fun
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Okay, I made a new thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20281.0)!
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Im out, have fun
Great playing with you!
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Jimmmm, too!
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For reference in anyone looking back, here's our QT:
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/FkR6iyXMccJ