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Dominion => Variants and Fan Cards => Topic started by: LibraryAdventurer on October 15, 2019, 02:18:39 am

Title: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on October 15, 2019, 02:18:39 am
Two of the cards I hate are Wild Hunt and Farmer's Market. mandioca15 recently posted a card (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18987.msg810151#msg810151) that I think works well as a replacement for Farmer's Market, so I thought I'd come up with a replacement for Wild Hunt. I kind of turned it into a crossover Empires/Nocturne card...

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(modded) Wild Hunt
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Coin5.png/16px-Coin5.png) - Action - Night
If it's your action phase: +3 Cards.
If it's your night phase: Receive the next boon.
Either way, you may put a card from your hand onto your deck to take a token from here.
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Setup: This pile starts with 6 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/VP.png/16px-VP.png) per player.

PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: spineflu on October 15, 2019, 08:54:40 am
Two of the cards I hate are Wild Hunt and Farmer's Market. mandioca15 recently posted a card (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18987.msg810151#msg810151) that I think works well as a replacement for Farmer's Market, so I thought I'd come up with a replacement for Wild Hunt. I kind of turned it into a crossover Empires/Nocturne card...

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(modded) Wild Hunt
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Coin5.png/16px-Coin5.png) - Action - Night
If it's your action phase: +3 Cards.
If it's your night phase: Receive the next boon.
Either way, you may put a card from your hand onto your deck to take a token from here.
-
Setup: This pile starts with 6 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/VP.png/16px-VP.png) per player.

PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?

I'm like rationalizing here but I think it was partially DXV wanted some simpler cards in the set (after the complexity of Empires) and because a chunk of the Boons are awkward to receive after your buy phase (Earth's Gift, Field's Gift, Flames Gift, Forest's Gift, Sea's Gift), which means they'd have to be phrased like Blessed Village, which adds more text.
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: segura on October 15, 2019, 10:03:09 am
Two of the cards I hate are Wild Hunt and Farmer's Market. mandioca15 recently posted a card (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18987.msg810151#msg810151) that I think works well as a replacement for Farmer's Market, so I thought I'd come up with a replacement for Wild Hunt. I kind of turned it into a crossover Empires/Nocturne card...

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(modded) Wild Hunt
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Coin5.png/16px-Coin5.png) - Action - Night
If it's your action phase: +3 Cards.
If it's your night phase: Receive the next boon.
Either way, you may put a card from your hand onto your deck to take a token from here.
-
Setup: This pile starts with 6 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/VP.png/16px-VP.png) per player.

PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
I like the original Wild Hunt better. This comes with a fixed supply of VPs and behaves a bit like a Landmark on a card. You can play with it fairly solitaire-ish. Sure, keep the decks of the other folks in mind and think about how often they want to topdeck for VPs to judge how quickly the VPs will empty but that's it.

Wild Hunt on the other hand comes with a player-driven supply of VPs and is far more interactive which is, at least to me, the main appeal of the card, as well as all other Gathering cards in general.
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: Fragasnap on October 15, 2019, 10:10:08 am
PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
Emphasis added
Guardian: Early on the set had a village that went into your next hand. I just told you about that. It was great so I thought I should try a second card like that, and the obvious concept was a Moat. At first it was a pure Reaction that was set aside for your next hand when you got it, and came with a Gold; then the Gold idea went on Skulk, and Guardian changed to be a Night card that gave you a Boon next turn, and went to your hand when gained. The Boon was too slow (since playing Guardian doesn't use up an Action), so now it just gives you +$1.
If you make a Fate Night card, you should ensure that it has some other effect that disincentivizes playing multiple of them.
Your Wild Hunt might be fine because it costs $5 and you'd rather draw 3 cards than receive a Boon.  I like the original Wild Hunt more though.  It is both semantically simpler and more compelling for its unique effect.

(Considering the above quote though, I don't know how Fool made it through testing if a weak Night card that gave 1 Boon didn't make it.)
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: segura on October 15, 2019, 10:13:03 am
PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
Just go over them: Earth, Field, Forest, Wind and to some degree Sky suck (i.e. do nothing) at Night.
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on October 15, 2019, 07:07:23 pm
Two of the cards I hate are Wild Hunt and Farmer's Market. mandioca15 recently posted a card (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18987.msg810151#msg810151) that I think works well as a replacement for Farmer's Market, so I thought I'd come up with a replacement for Wild Hunt. I kind of turned it into a crossover Empires/Nocturne card...

Quote
(modded) Wild Hunt
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Coin5.png/16px-Coin5.png) - Action - Night
If it's your action phase: +3 Cards.
If it's your night phase: Receive the next boon.
Either way, you may put a card from your hand onto your deck to take a token from here.
-
Setup: This pile starts with 6 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/VP.png/16px-VP.png) per player.

PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
I like the original Wild Hunt better. This comes with a fixed supply of VPs and behaves a bit like a Landmark on a card. You can play with it fairly solitaire-ish. Sure, keep the decks of the other folks in mind and think about how often they want to topdeck for VPs to judge how quickly the VPs will empty but that's it.

Wild Hunt on the other hand comes with a player-driven supply of VPs and is far more interactive which is, at least to me, the main appeal of the card, as well as all other Gathering cards in general.
The official Wild Hunt (and Farmer's Market) are interactive in a bad way. not fun to me at all.

PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
Just go over them: Earth, Field, Forest, Wind and to some degree Sky suck (i.e. do nothing) at Night.
Hmmm, yeah, maybe it could say receive the boon at the start of your next turn. It's already pretty wordy though.
OTOH, I'm of the opinion that there's no real need to print "Setup" parts on fan cards.
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on October 15, 2019, 07:45:51 pm
PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
Just go over them: Earth, Field, Forest, Wind and to some degree Sky suck (i.e. do nothing) at Night.

Sea is also rarely good here, and Flame is nerfed. For it to work at all, it would have to be a Duration effect.
Title: Re: modded Wild Hunt
Post by: spineflu on October 15, 2019, 07:46:35 pm
PS: Anyone know if there was a particular reason why there were no Night cards that gave boons in Nocturne?
Just go over them: Earth, Field, Forest, Wind and to some degree Sky suck (i.e. do nothing) at Night.

Sea is also rarely good here, and Flame is nerfed. For it to work at all, it would have to be a Duration effect.
eh, it could be a pseudo duration like the on-buy of Blessed Village