Dominion Strategy Forum
Dominion => Puzzles and Challenges => Topic started by: AJD on March 12, 2012, 03:46:48 pm
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So we all know that two things never happen at the same time in Dominion: when two effects are triggered at the same time, they activate in turn order of the players that they affect, and if there's still ambiguity, the active player chooses the order.
There is one card which violates this principle: it causes multiple things to happen actually simultaneously, without being broken down in either of the aforementioned ways. What is it?
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Tournament?
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Tournament?
Nope! Strictly speaking everyone gets to take their chance to reveal a Province in turn order.
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Dutchess
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Dutchess
Nope, strictly speaking you still have do tthat in turn order.
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Possession
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Possession
How? That's not what I was thinking of, but that card is confusing enough that it might have some simultaneous effect that I'm missing.
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Possession
How?
You gain a card, and simultaneously, I gain that card. Obviously not what you're looking for though.
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Possession
How?
You gain a card, and simultaneously, I gain that card. Obviously not what you're looking for though.
Naw, only one gain happens, same as Trader.
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Well I don't know if I am actually understanding the challenge properly but my guess would be . . .
Masquerade. In that each player is passing a card simultaneously.
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Oh, nice! And here I was expecting to be disappointed with a semantic hair-splitting solution.
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Well I don't know if I am actually understanding the challenge properly but my guess would be . . .
Masquerade. In that each player is passing a card simultaneously.
Correct! The simultaneity is explicily stipulated in the card text and FAQ, and if you tried to break it down and do the steps in order according to the ordinary rule you'd get the wrong result.
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I believe Masquerade is also the only card that can cause information about the contents of a player's deck to become unknown/untrackable. Though Native Village is an honorable mention in that category.
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I believe Masquerade is also the only card that can cause information about the contents of a player's deck to become unknown/untrackable. Though Native Village is an honorable mention in that category.
True! I was thinking of doing a trivia question on that as well. :)
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I believe Masquerade is also the only card that can cause information about the contents of a player's deck to become unknown/untrackable. Though Native Village is an honorable mention in that category.
Untrackable by players during the game, yes. Sadly, it's also untrackable in the logs, in the current implementation of isotropic. I hope the official version corrects this oversight, so the logs will let us fully reconstruct the game state at all times.
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I believe Masquerade is also the only card that can cause information about the contents of a player's deck to become unknown/untrackable. Though Native Village is an honorable mention in that category.
Untrackable by players during the game, yes. Sadly, it's also untrackable in the logs, in the current implementation of isotropic. I hope the official version corrects this oversight, so the logs will let us fully reconstruct the game state at all times.
Definitely. Iso logs don't even show if a card was passed with Masquerade. Meaning that logs of KC-Masq pin games don't at all explain what's going on.
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Sadly, it's also untrackable in the logs, in the current implementation of isotropic. I hope the official version corrects this oversight, so the logs will let us fully reconstruct the game state at all times.
I'm new to these forums so I'm not sure if I have missed something, but what is this about an official version of Isotropic? Can you point me to any information on the topic?
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Sadly, it's also untrackable in the logs, in the current implementation of isotropic. I hope the official version corrects this oversight, so the logs will let us fully reconstruct the game state at all times.
I'm new to these forums so I'm not sure if I have missed something, but what is this about an official version of Isotropic? Can you point me to any information on the topic?
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1186.msg31216;topicseen#msg31216 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1186.msg31216;topicseen#msg31216) ;D