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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: DooWopDJ on February 21, 2019, 09:43:07 am

Title: Coffer vs Coin with -1 Coin Adventure token
Post by: DooWopDJ on February 21, 2019, 09:43:07 am
When a player has the -1 coin token, when a player gains a +1 Coffer does that remove -1 Coin Token?
My guess is no as 'Coffers' are not 'Coins' (note: if playing with 1st edition use of 'Coin token' cards (aka Baker) does this ruling still stand?  Is is possible to have this clarified in the FAQ section?
-Thanks
Title: Re: Coffer vs Coin with -1 Coin Adventure token
Post by: Chris is me on February 21, 2019, 09:53:08 am
Yes, paying a Coffers generates +1 Coin, it says this right on the mat even. thus it would remove the token and result in no net change to total coins.
Title: Re: Coffer vs Coin with -1 Coin Adventure token
Post by: crj on February 21, 2019, 10:11:37 am
That's not quite what DooWopDJ asked.


Taking +1 Coffers, i.e. putting a token on the Coffers mat, simply does exactly that. It does not immediately remove the -$1 token.

Your buy phase has two sub-phases: spend-treasures and make-purchases. You may play Coffers for +$1 each during your spend-treasures sub-phase.

If you play a Coffers while you have your -$1 token, the two cancel out: you remove the Coffers token; you remove the -$1 token; you get no spending money.

But you're never forced to play Coffers, just because you have your -$1 token. You could instead get rid of it through other means, or keep it until a later turn.
Title: Re: Coffer vs Coin with -1 Coin Adventure token
Post by: GendoIkari on February 21, 2019, 10:14:08 am
Getting a coffer has no interaction whatsoever with the -(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Coin1.png/16px-Coin1.png) token. Spending a coffer is exactly like playing a Copper or a Market, it's a way of getting +(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Coin1.png/16px-Coin1.png) to spend this turn. If you have your -(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Coin1.png/16px-Coin1.png) token when you play a Copper, or play a Market, or spend a coffer, then you will lose your -(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Coin1.png/16px-Coin1.png) token and get no (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6d/Coin.png/16px-Coin.png) to spend.