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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: LittleFish on January 04, 2019, 04:59:49 pm
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Is if worth it to buy the promos? They're 5 dollars each on BGG store. Are they worth it?
EDIT: What one should I buy? I think I'll get them in increments of 2 to lower the shipping. Any ideas?
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Depends on the Promo. I'd say at least Black Market is worth it, and probably pass on at least Walled Village and Envoy.
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My personal favourite promo, for what it's worth, is Prince. A nifty effect, but a price so high you've got an interesting decision to make: will buying it let you gain at least one extra Province?
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
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Depends, do you want the 100% achievement?
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My personal favourite promo, for what it's worth, is Prince. A nifty effect, but a price so high you've got an interesting decision to make: will buying it let you gain at least one extra Province?
I meant the USD cost on BGG not the cost to get the card in your deck
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Depends on the Promo. I'd say at least Black Market is worth it, and probably pass on at least Walled Village and Envoy.
They aren't that exciting, but I actually really like Walled Village for another generic village and Envoy for being a weirder smithy. If I were going to skip a promo it'd be Sauna/Avanto, but really I like them all. Prince and Summon are the most fun though.
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
You lost all credibility to me when you rated Governor and Stash as 5/5, but Black Market only 3/5.
To the OP, personally, I'd say the majority of the promos are skippable. I think the only three I'd pay for are Black Market, Prince, and Summon.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
The promo I most recommend is Governor. It's a very centralizing card, and difficult to figure out too. If you like centralizing cards, then second and third place would be Black Market, and Sauna/Avanto. If you prefer cards of more middling strength, try Prince, Summon, Dismantle, and Envoy. Stash is widely regarded as very weak, and Walled Village is basically never better than village.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Just grab one copy each of 20-30 cards that aren't in the current kingdom. What's so hard about that?
The promo I most recommend is Governor. It's a very centralizing card, and difficult to figure out too. If you like centralizing cards, then second and third place would be Black Market, and Sauna/Avanto. If you prefer cards of more middling strength, try Prince, Summon, Dismantle, and Envoy. Stash is widely regarded as very weak, and Walled Village is basically never better than village.
I don't like Governor or (to a lesser extent) Sauna/Avanto because they're so centralizing.
Black Market is centralizing in a completely different way than those. The unique thing it does it let you buy cards not otherwise available that game. Black Market itself isn't a power card, but it's fun.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Just grab one copy each of 20-30 cards that aren't in the current kingdom. What's so hard about that?
What's hard about it, is that it already takes a long time to setup and put away Dominion, with only 10 kingdom cards, and now this is tripling-quadrupling that time.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Just grab one copy each of 20-30 cards that aren't in the current kingdom. What's so hard about that?
What's hard about it, is that it already takes a long time to setup and put away Dominion, with only 10 kingdom cards, and now this is tripling-quadrupling that time.
Sounds like you need a better storage solution to keep it from taking so long.
(Sorry, I don't have one I can recommend. The one I use involves a suitcase-like carrying case which was originally made for cassette tapes. I'm pretty sure they don't make them anymore.)
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Just grab one copy each of 20-30 cards that aren't in the current kingdom. What's so hard about that?
What's hard about it, is that it already takes a long time to setup and put away Dominion, with only 10 kingdom cards, and now this is tripling-quadrupling that time.
Sounds like you need a better storage solution to keep it from taking so long.
(Sorry, I don't have one I can recommend. The one I use involves a suitcase-like carrying case which was originally made for cassette tapes. I'm pretty sure they don't make them anymore.)
It's literally the time it takes to find the correct divider and take/return the appropriate card, but times 30. I think you're just a lot more patient than me.
My partner said that when he used to play with Black Market, they would use the randomizers, and only take out the cards when they were bought. This sounds less irritating, although the issue is we don't keep the randomizers on hand. I think if we were to ever buy a copy of Black Market, I'd just pack it some randomizers and just use the same ones every time.
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The promo I most recommend is Governor. It's a very centralizing card, and difficult to figure out too. If you like centralizing cards, then second and third place would be Black Market, and Sauna/Avanto. If you prefer cards of more middling strength, try Prince, Summon, Dismantle, and Envoy. Stash is widely regarded as very weak, and Walled Village is basically never better than village.
I don't like Governor or (to a lesser extent) Sauna/Avanto because they're so centralizing.
Black Market is centralizing in a completely different way than those. The unique thing it does it let you buy cards not otherwise available that game. Black Market itself isn't a power card, but it's fun.
Saunavanto is just plain unfun. It does too many useful things at once. The chaining interaction is very neat but it should never have had the trashing. The trashing is also grating because it's luck-based.
Very mixed feelings about Governor. I dislike how centralizing it is, but at the same time it's usually a genuinely interesting card. It has so many interactions: it synergizes with other Gold-gainers, other TFBs, handsize attacks, thinners in general, and a bunch of other stuff. The main reason I dislike it is simply because I'm so bad at using it. It offers so many options, and I somehow always end up picking the wrong ones.
Black Market is one of my favorite cards, if not my very favorite. It's virtually always a must-buy, but I wouldn't really call it centralizing in the same way other cards are. There's no "Black Market deck"; your strategy is completely different depending on what Black Market cards you actually buy (and Black Market itself is a stop card). To me it's the perfect promo: completely wacky idea, involving every single other card in the game instead of just ones from a particular set.
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
You lost all credibility to me when you rated Governor and Stash as 5/5, but Black Market only 3/5.
My choices then were more so based on "cult of the new", and trying out the new cards as they came out. Black Market was rated on how it kind of was a pain in the neck to set up. And that was back when there were only 4 expansions.
Later on, I was shocked to come onto this site to find out the general consensus is that Gold is not that great since it still stifles engines. As I'm sure you're aware, your typical Dominion group does have a thing with "going for the Gold". I take it the disdain for Stash is it's just a "glorified Silver", while Governor helps your opponents too much?
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Just grab one copy each of 20-30 cards that aren't in the current kingdom. What's so hard about that?
What's hard about it, is that it already takes a long time to setup and put away Dominion, with only 10 kingdom cards, and now this is tripling-quadrupling that time.
Sounds like you need a better storage solution to keep it from taking so long.
(Sorry, I don't have one I can recommend. The one I use involves a suitcase-like carrying case which was originally made for cassette tapes. I'm pretty sure they don't make them anymore.)
It's literally the time it takes to find the correct divider and take/return the appropriate card, but times 30. I think you're just a lot more patient than me.
My partner said that when he used to play with Black Market, they would use the randomizers, and only take out the cards when they were bought. This sounds less irritating, although the issue is we don't keep the randomizers on hand. I think if we were to ever buy a copy of Black Market, I'd just pack it some randomizers and just use the same ones every time.
That's what we did in one group back when Prosperity was the latest and greatest. Of course, there weren't as many randomizers back then. These days, few people carry them around.
Another suggestion is the grab the blanks and use them as proxies. Put labels on them, and have an impromptu chart that can identify what all the cards are. E.g.
BM#1 = Courtier,
BM#2 = Junk Dealer
BM#3 = Duchess
etc.
You'd need to know what the cards do ahead of time, or have an illustration of the cards on head (on your phone/a printout), but saving the hassles of hunting down individual cards, and then having to put them away afterwards could be worth it.
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My favorites are probably Governor and Envoy. My least favorite is probably Dismantle, though, frankly, I don't dislike any of them. I do like Black Market, but I only play with it when I play online -- I just haven't come up with an easy way to incorporate it IRL.
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My favorites are probably Governor and Envoy. My least favorite is probably Dismantle, though, frankly, I don't dislike any of them. I do like Black Market, but I only play with it when I play online -- I just haven't come up with an easy way to incorporate it IRL.
Two good options:
1) Use a randomizer app that includes a black market. That way you're only fishing for the card if someone buys it.
2) Make the Black market deck from the blue-backed placeholder cards. Sure, you'll be able to identify tell if a card in someone else's hand came from the Black Market, but that's a minor bit of info leak in exchange for much easier setup.
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My favorites are probably Governor and Envoy. My least favorite is probably Dismantle, though, frankly, I don't dislike any of them. I do like Black Market, but I only play with it when I play online -- I just haven't come up with an easy way to incorporate it IRL.
Two good options:
1) Use a randomizer app that includes a black market. That way you're only fishing for the card if someone buys it.
Can you suggest one? I've tried a few, and some of them have BM options to select which ones you'd like to white/blacklist, but none of them actually implement a "virtual deck", and the rest of it (flipping up 3 cards, bottom decking the rest, etc.)
2) Make the Black market deck from the blue-backed placeholder cards. Sure, you'll be able to identify tell if a card in someone else's hand came from the Black Market, but that's a minor bit of info leak in exchange for much easier setup.
Doesn't help those who leave out randomizers.
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2) Make the Black market deck from the blue-backed placeholder cards. Sure, you'll be able to identify tell if a card in someone else's hand came from the Black Market, but that's a minor bit of info leak in exchange for much easier setup.
Doesn't help those who leave out randomizers.
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this"
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Two good options:
1) Use a randomizer app that includes a black market. That way you're only fishing for the card if someone buys it.
2) Make the Black market deck from the blue-backed placeholder cards. Sure, you'll be able to identify tell if a card in someone else's hand came from the Black Market, but that's a minor bit of info leak in exchange for much easier setup.
3) Use one card from each pile for randomizers, rather than the blue-backed cards. Add it to the pile to play, put any copy back in the randomizer deck after a game. Then the randomizer deck can be used for Black Market with no work at all (skipping sideways cards as they come up). This is what I do! I just never wanted to print an 11th copy of everything.
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My favorites are probably Governor and Envoy. My least favorite is probably Dismantle, though, frankly, I don't dislike any of them. I do like Black Market, but I only play with it when I play online -- I just haven't come up with an easy way to incorporate it IRL.
Two good options:
1) Use a randomizer app that includes a black market. That way you're only fishing for the card if someone buys it.
2) Make the Black market deck from the blue-backed placeholder cards. Sure, you'll be able to identify tell if a card in someone else's hand came from the Black Market, but that's a minor bit of info leak in exchange for much easier setup.
Alternatively program your own randomizer because the ones you could find didn't include the functionality you wanted. :/
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3) Use one card from each pile for randomizers
The trouble with that is it stinks for playing random or semi-random kingdoms. If you ever want to choose a pile, you have to go digging in the randomizers for the missing card. )-8
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3) Use one card from each pile for randomizers
The trouble with that is it stinks for playing random or semi-random kingdoms. If you ever want to choose a pile, you have to go digging in the randomizers for the missing card. )-8
I don't know why you say "random" there - it makes random kingdoms exactly as well as the randomizer deck does, with exactly as much searching for cards. Instead of turning over a random randomizer card and looking for the pile of 10, I turn over a random card and look for the pile of 9 to add to it. It's just exactly the same.
For needing a particular card, well as it happens I also keep each expansion separate - I deal out 5 random Seaside cards, 5 random Renaissance cards. So if I want to specifically test Swashbuckler, I turn over the pile of 25 cards and it's easy to find. But yes if you shuffled them all together it would take a while to find the 10th copy of something.
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I don't know why you say "random" there
Because I'm an idiot and I meant non-random.
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3) Use one card from each pile for randomizers
The trouble with that is it stinks for playing random or semi-random kingdoms. If you ever want to choose a pile, you have to go digging in the randomizers for the missing card. )-8
I don't know why you say "random" there - it makes random kingdoms exactly as well as the randomizer deck does, with exactly as much searching for cards. Instead of turning over a random randomizer card and looking for the pile of 10, I turn over a random card and look for the pile of 9 to add to it. It's just exactly the same.
For needing a particular card, well as it happens I also keep each expansion separate - I deal out 5 random Seaside cards, 5 random Renaissance cards. So if I want to specifically test Swashbuckler, I turn over the pile of 25 cards and it's easy to find. But yes if you shuffled them all together it would take a while to find the 10th copy of something.
Wouldn't 300+ randomizer cards be difficult to shuffle? Or do you just limit the number of expansions you play with at once?
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3) Use one card from each pile for randomizers
The trouble with that is it stinks for playing random or semi-random kingdoms. If you ever want to choose a pile, you have to go digging in the randomizers for the missing card. )-8
I don't know why you say "random" there - it makes random kingdoms exactly as well as the randomizer deck does, with exactly as much searching for cards. Instead of turning over a random randomizer card and looking for the pile of 10, I turn over a random card and look for the pile of 9 to add to it. It's just exactly the same.
For needing a particular card, well as it happens I also keep each expansion separate - I deal out 5 random Seaside cards, 5 random Renaissance cards. So if I want to specifically test Swashbuckler, I turn over the pile of 25 cards and it's easy to find. But yes if you shuffled them all together it would take a while to find the 10th copy of something.
Wouldn't 300+ randomizer cards be difficult to shuffle? Or do you just limit the number of expansions you play with at once?
I thought it was clear there, but I have e.g. a randomizer pile for Seaside (but it's really one of each regular-backed card from Seaside), and it's never mixed with other randomizers, it's always just the 26 Seaside cards. I shuffle that, it's 26 cards. I deal out 5 and then go to another pile for another expansion. I play with two expansions at once.
I've never tried shuffling 300 randomizers. Typically with so many cards you shuffle sections and then combine it and divide it into new sections and then shuffle the sections again. There must be people doing this but not me.
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You have to shuffle a deck of 177 cards for Evolution: Climate. When we need to shuffle large numbers of cards like that, we tend to divvy out about 50-70 to each of several shufflers. They shuffle for a bit, then pass half their cards to the left. After we've done that half a dozen times, we deem everything thoroughly shuffled.
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3) Use one card from each pile for randomizers
The trouble with that is it stinks for playing random or semi-random kingdoms. If you ever want to choose a pile, you have to go digging in the randomizers for the missing card. )-8
I don't know why you say "random" there - it makes random kingdoms exactly as well as the randomizer deck does, with exactly as much searching for cards. Instead of turning over a random randomizer card and looking for the pile of 10, I turn over a random card and look for the pile of 9 to add to it. It's just exactly the same.
For needing a particular card, well as it happens I also keep each expansion separate - I deal out 5 random Seaside cards, 5 random Renaissance cards. So if I want to specifically test Swashbuckler, I turn over the pile of 25 cards and it's easy to find. But yes if you shuffled them all together it would take a while to find the 10th copy of something.
Wouldn't 300+ randomizer cards be difficult to shuffle? Or do you just limit the number of expansions you play with at once?
I thought it was clear there, but I have e.g. a randomizer pile for Seaside (but it's really one of each regular-backed card from Seaside), and it's never mixed with other randomizers, it's always just the 26 Seaside cards. I shuffle that, it's 26 cards. I deal out 5 and then go to another pile for another expansion. I play with two expansions at once.
I've never tried shuffling 300 randomizers. Typically with so many cards you shuffle sections and then combine it and divide it into new sections and then shuffle the sections again. There must be people doing this but not me.
*raises hand*
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I just use the Randomizer deck for Black Market. Sure, the cards are blue backed so you can see what isn't from the Kingdom, and this changes things gameplay wise. But Black Market is already changing things a lot, so I don't really mind.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
randomizer cards + numbered blanks
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Use an app with virtual Black Market deck support. It can simulate a Black Market deck for you. If someone buys the actual card you then dig it out, that way you only have to fish for the cards you need.
Another reasonable option is Donald's method with the 10th copy of each card as your randomizer decks. This can get unwieldy if you want to have a Black Market deck with cards from several expansions, though.
I've also played with a curated Black Market deck, but this is very time-consuming.
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I feel like using the randomizer deck and then just grabbing actual copies of whatever cards get bought is a pretty good compromise.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Use an app with virtual Black Market deck support. It can simulate a Black Market deck for you. If someone buys the actual card you then dig it out, that way you only have to fish for the cards you need.
Can you suggest any? People keep saying this, but I have yet to find one that does more than pick out the BM cards.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Use an app with virtual Black Market deck support. It can simulate a Black Market deck for you. If someone buys the actual card you then dig it out, that way you only have to fish for the cards you need.
Can you suggest any? People keep saying this, but I have yet to find one that does more than pick out the BM cards.
Clearly, someone needs to make one.
*glances from side to side*
*puts finger on nose*
Not it
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I feel like using the randomizer deck and then just grabbing actual copies of whatever cards get bought is a pretty good compromise.
This really is a good enough solution, folks, and well within the spirit of IRL board gaming.
Otherwise if you're going to have a BM-specific app, why not just go all out and have a Dominion Online LAN party with 5 laptops 'round the table?
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Use an app with virtual Black Market deck support. It can simulate a Black Market deck for you. If someone buys the actual card you then dig it out, that way you only have to fish for the cards you need.
Can you suggest any? People keep saying this, but I have yet to find one that does more than pick out the BM cards.
From the Android side there's both Kingdom Shuffler for Dominion and Dominion Picker with virtual Black Market deck options. Dominion Picker doesn't have Nocturne or Renaissance yet, though.
I don't use iOS enough right now to speak to what's available there.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Use an app with virtual Black Market deck support. It can simulate a Black Market deck for you. If someone buys the actual card you then dig it out, that way you only have to fish for the cards you need.
Can you suggest any? People keep saying this, but I have yet to find one that does more than pick out the BM cards.
From the Android side there's both Kingdom Shuffler for Dominion and Dominion Picker with virtual Black Market deck options. Dominion Picker doesn't have Nocturne or Renaissance yet, though.
I don't use iOS enough right now to speak to what's available there.
For iOS, Randominion has a decent Black Market function, if I remember correctly.
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For people who think Black Market is one of the best: how do you do the setup IRL? It sounds unusable.
Use an app with virtual Black Market deck support. It can simulate a Black Market deck for you. If someone buys the actual card you then dig it out, that way you only have to fish for the cards you need.
Can you suggest any? People keep saying this, but I have yet to find one that does more than pick out the BM cards.
From the Android side there's both Kingdom Shuffler for Dominion and Dominion Picker with virtual Black Market deck options. Dominion Picker doesn't have Nocturne or Renaissance yet, though.
I don't use iOS enough right now to speak to what's available there.
For iOS, Randominion has a decent Black Market function, if I remember correctly.
There's no Renaissance on Randominion though
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I feel like using the randomizer deck and then just grabbing actual copies of whatever cards get bought is a pretty good compromise.
This really is a good enough solution, folks, and well within the spirit of IRL board gaming.
Otherwise if you're going to have a BM-specific app, why not just go all out and have a Dominion Online LAN party with 5 laptops 'round the table?
That's quite a bit of a stretch don't you think?
For the former, all you need is one phone. To implement it would be FAAR easier than making the entire Dominion series
For the latter, you'd need to lug around 5 laptops, be able to plug them in somewhere, and have internet access. Dominion Online is already a thing, but some people prefer the physical cards.
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A BM virtual deck app fulfills a need that can make things far more convenient. Ditto with a randomizer app. Reduces the need to carry hundreds of randomizer cards, and all that shuffling.
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Hey here's a thread with "promos" in the title.
The two new promos are expected in August.
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The two new promos are expected in August.
Are they worth it?
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I recently got governor and Black Market. Black market is fun but hard to set up.
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The two new promos are expected in August.
Are they worth it?
One of them shows RTT in a hat. So I mean. Obviously.
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Now i know who stole the hat.
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It's my birthday today and someone gave me $50. I don't have any of the promos yet, and all of them together cost $43 in the bgg store (The 8 kingdom cards for $5 each and Summon for $3). So it's kind of obvious what I have to get.
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It's my birthday today and someone gave me $50. I don't have any of the promos yet, and all of them together cost $43 in the bgg store (The 8 kingdom cards for $5 each and Summon for $3). So it's kind of obvious what I have to get.
shipping included?
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It's my birthday today and someone gave me $50. I don't have any of the promos yet, and all of them together cost $43 in the bgg store (The 8 kingdom cards for $5 each and Summon for $3). So it's kind of obvious what I have to get.
shipping included?
I bought 4 promos from BGG last month--I live in Southern California in the US, and my total shipping was $3.86. That was in addition to $5 per kingdom card.
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I didn't actually think about shipping. But if it goes over my $50, I'm totally willing to spend my own money. I would gladly take the whole thing out of my own money, in fact, but it's nice that I got almost the perfect amount as a gift.
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Huh, interesting. The promos just arrived, and Walled Village, Governor, Prince, and Stash came as their 1E versions. The rest all had flag expansion symbols so I assume they were 2E. The wiki says not all 2E promos have been released, that must be why.
Also, the wiki apparently says that "tournaments may offer promos as prizes." I completely missed that it was talking about real-life tournaments and real-life prizes, rather than Tournaments and Prizes. It didn't help that the word tournaments linked somewhere, the same way all the cards do when they are specifically mentioned on another page.
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Huh, interesting. The promos just arrived, and Walled Village, Governor, Prince, and Stash came as their 1E versions. The rest all had flag expansion symbols so I assume they were 2E. The wiki says not all 2E promos have been released, that must be why.
That's kind of annoying; especially for Stash which has new wording to make it work properly under the shuffle rule update.
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Huh, interesting. The promos just arrived, and Walled Village, Governor, Prince, and Stash came as their 1E versions. The rest all had flag expansion symbols so I assume they were 2E. The wiki says not all 2E promos have been released, that must be why.
Also, the wiki apparently says that "tournaments may offer promos as prizes." I completely missed that it was talking about real-life tournaments and real-life prizes, rather than Tournaments and Prizes. It didn't help that the word tournaments linked somewhere, the same way all the cards do when they are specifically mentioned on another page.
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18951.msg768509#msg768509
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
You lost all credibility to me when you rated Governor and Stash as 5/5, but Black Market only 3/5.
Looking back to this day, I can say, it's good thing I don't care what you think :)
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
You lost all credibility to me when you rated Governor and Stash as 5/5, but Black Market only 3/5.
Based on the pattern, I assume Prince would get a rating of 8/5?
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
You lost all credibility to me when you rated Governor and Stash as 5/5, but Black Market only 3/5.
Based on the pattern, I assume Prince would get a rating of 8/5?
It would get a 3.6/5. Not great, but not terrible.
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I did a mini-review of the first 5 here....
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10398721#10398721
FWIW, try to value them by how much you'll actually use them. Sure, the regular sets come with many more cards, but it wouldn't be saying much if you didn't like say, half of them.
As far as the rest of them go, Summons isn't too shabby, nor Dismantle.
You lost all credibility to me when you rated Governor and Stash as 5/5, but Black Market only 3/5.
Based on the pattern, I assume Prince would get a rating of 8/5?
It would get a 3.6/5. Not great, but not terrible.
My point was that Governor (ranked 5/5) and Stash (also ranked 5/5) both have in-game costs of (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Coin5.png/16px-Coin5.png), and that Black Market (ranked 3/5) has an in-game cost of (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Coin3.png/16px-Coin3.png). Going back to the original post, Walled Village and Envoy both ranked 4/5, and also both have an in-game cost of (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2a/Coin4.png/16px-Coin4.png). So Prince, logically, has to get a rating of 8/5 given its (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/47/Coin8.png/16px-Coin8.png) cost.
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I bought them all and am happy I did.
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I bought them all and am happy I did.
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are they all worth it?