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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: DooWopDJ on December 03, 2018, 08:43:24 am

Title: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: DooWopDJ on December 03, 2018, 08:43:24 am
Hello, hello

I would like to get the new cards only that have been added in the 2nd Edition versions of Dominion.

Is there someway that I can get these as a set?

Thanks
-Doowopdj
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on December 03, 2018, 08:48:34 am
Yes, they're called Dominion Update Packs. The one for intrigue is still available from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Rio-Grande-Games-Dominion-Intrigue/dp/B01LWN4C0G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543844736&sr=8-3&keywords=dominion+update+packs) and online for about $15, but the Base Set one seems harder to track down. There are a couple Ebay listings for $40, but the complete 2nd edition is only $30 on Amazon right now so that might be the way to go.
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: DooWopDJ on December 11, 2018, 12:22:15 am
So how does the revised cards get broken down.   Yes I know this is a odd request, but I suspect someone has 'organized' these stats already.
1. All of the cards that - updated format from 1st edition, including ANY re-wording/font changes
2. All of the cards that - updated format from 1st edition, including ANY re-wording/no font changes
3. All of the cards that - updated format from 1st edition, including non-gender rewording (These are the ones I most like will have to figure out how to get copies of without order a complete 2nd edition version)
4. All of the cards that - updated format from 1st edition, including gender only rewording
5. List of cards from non-updated sets that will be revised for any of the above 4 questions
-Thanks
-Doowopdj
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: LittleFish on December 11, 2018, 07:49:09 am
I think that it only adds the cards that are exclusive to second edition. It removes all the cards that made dominion a "solved game" where you only needed treasures.
Base
Harbinger, Merchant, Vassal, Poacher, Bandit, Sentry, Artisan


Intrigue
Lurker, Diplomat, Mill, Secret Passage, Courtier, Patrol, and Replace
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: ConMan on December 11, 2018, 04:48:25 pm
The Upgrade packs for Dominion (base set) and Intrigue contain only the cards that were created specifically for 2nd edition. They contain none of the re-worded or re-typeset cards - not even the new version of Masquerade. The only way to get, for example, a Throne Room that says "You may" or a Torturer that says "their" is to buy a full 2nd edition set (or find someone weird who's selling the 2nd edition versions of cards individually).
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: GendoIkari on December 11, 2018, 04:52:53 pm
I think that it only adds the cards that are exclusive to second edition. It removes all the cards that made dominion a "solved game" where you only needed treasures.
Base
Harbinger, Merchant, Vassal, Poacher, Bandit, Sentry, Artisan


Intrigue
Lurker, Diplomat, Mill, Secret Passage, Courtier, Patrol, and Replace
This is a good list of added cards; but you're mistaken about the removed cards making Dominion a "solved game"... even in first edition Dominion; it would be extremely rare, even impossible with base set only, for buying only treasures to be the best strategy. It is true that the cards that were removed were generally weak and either not fun to play with or not worth buying most of the time.
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on December 11, 2018, 06:48:19 pm
Well, Scout was solved at least - the right move is to never get it.
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: LittleFish on December 12, 2018, 07:31:49 am
I think that it only adds the cards that are exclusive to second edition. It removes all the cards that made dominion a "solved game" where you only needed treasures.
Base
Harbinger, Merchant, Vassal, Poacher, Bandit, Sentry, Artisan


Intrigue
Lurker, Diplomat, Mill, Secret Passage, Courtier, Patrol, and Replace
This is a good list of added cards; but you're mistaken about the removed cards making Dominion a "solved game"... even in first edition Dominion; it would be extremely rare, even impossible with base set only, for buying only treasures to be the best strategy. It is true that the cards that were removed were generally weak and either not fun to play with or not worth buying most of the time.

I was only paraphrasing what the wiki said
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: Awaclus on December 12, 2018, 07:47:06 am
I think that it only adds the cards that are exclusive to second edition. It removes all the cards that made dominion a "solved game" where you only needed treasures.
Base
Harbinger, Merchant, Vassal, Poacher, Bandit, Sentry, Artisan


Intrigue
Lurker, Diplomat, Mill, Secret Passage, Courtier, Patrol, and Replace
This is a good list of added cards; but you're mistaken about the removed cards making Dominion a "solved game"... even in first edition Dominion; it would be extremely rare, even impossible with base set only, for buying only treasures to be the best strategy. It is true that the cards that were removed were generally weak and either not fun to play with or not worth buying most of the time.

I was only paraphrasing what the wiki said

For reference, what the wiki said (emphasis mint):

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Early on, Dominion was often criticized for having too many relatively useless Action cards; some people even went so far as to call Dominion a 'solved' game in which the key to victory is just buying Treasure (see also Silver test).
Title: Re: 2nd Edition - New cards only
Post by: faust on December 12, 2018, 09:27:45 am
For reference, what the wiki said (emphasis mint):

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Early on, Dominion was often criticized for having too many relatively useless Action cards; some people even went so far as to call Dominion a 'solved' game in which the key to victory is just buying Treasure (see also Silver test).

FTFY