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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: teamlyle on February 23, 2018, 11:53:59 am

Title: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: teamlyle on February 23, 2018, 11:53:59 am
Do they gain any particular insights about a board by playing without a real opponent (sorry Lord Rattington)?
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: Awaclus on February 23, 2018, 12:12:47 pm
When I play against Lord Rattington, it's so that I can grind out a certain kingdom until I can have some idea what's the best strategy in it. The rat plays a lot faster than a person, and that way I don't have to bother a real person.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: Jeebus on February 23, 2018, 01:00:20 pm
How do you know that they do?

Could it be that you're seeing people loading an old game just to look at the log? As far as I know, you have to add a bot then.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on February 23, 2018, 01:02:05 pm
I'm not a top player by any stretch, but Lord Rattington is a good baseline check (on many boards, at least) against over-building.

It also allows you to tinker with engine components and optimize certain combos.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: jsh357 on February 23, 2018, 01:03:10 pm
I play him when I just want to play a game quickly. Playing Dominion at top level can take a really long time, and sometimes isn't what I want.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: pacovf on February 23, 2018, 01:20:38 pm
To inflate their egos, obviously.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: teamlyle on February 23, 2018, 01:51:51 pm
How do you know that they do?

I friended a bunch of top players so that I could watch their games. I get pretty disappointed when I see one playing, only to find that they're playing Lord Rattington :(
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: DG on February 23, 2018, 02:15:12 pm
The best thing about playing a bot is that you can use your time how you like without worrying about how it impacts on another player. You can be on the phone, you can use an android platform that might drop out, you can quit games you don't like, you can wander off and do things for your family, and so on.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: samath on February 23, 2018, 02:24:44 pm
Yeah, I have the same complaint sometimes. One thing top players can do to help is to block spectators on their bot games to save people the effort of coming in and then leaving.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: Mic Qsenoch on February 23, 2018, 02:44:08 pm
How do you know that they do?

I friended a bunch of top players so that I could watch their games. I get pretty disappointed when I see one playing, only to find that they're playing Lord Rattington :(

Sorry! I have been doing what samath mentions recently.

I play Lord Rattington mostly as a mindless thing I can do, it's like zoning out watching television or something (also those two things can be paired). And also for the same reasons other people are saying. I also like to build megaturns as much as possible against him, that can be fun in and of itself.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: Cuzz on February 23, 2018, 03:28:46 pm
Also very much not a top player, but it's usually when I have < 20 minutes before having to go somewhere and I can't be confident that I'd be able to finish a real game. Also sometimes opponents resign immediately and I'll play it out against LR if it looked like a fun kingdom.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: JW on February 23, 2018, 03:41:08 pm
I play him when I just want to play a game quickly. Playing Dominion at top level can take a really long time, and sometimes isn't what I want.

Little known fact: Stef banned Possession so that jsh would start playing humans again. ;)
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: dedicateddan on February 23, 2018, 05:38:40 pm
Beating Lord Rattington 1,000 times unlocks the perfect shuffle luck achievement.  ;)
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: Dylan32 on February 23, 2018, 05:51:18 pm
Beating Lord Rattington 1,000 times unlocks the perfect shuffle luck achievement.  ;)

And with that, the average wait time to find a match with someone wanting to play another person doubled.
Title: Re: Why do top players play against Lord Rattington so much?
Post by: markusin on February 23, 2018, 09:03:05 pm
I play Lord Rattington when it's late at night and don't feel like putting in the energy to win against humans, but don't quite feel like sleeping and still want to listen to some music or something.