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Dominion => Game Reports => Topic started by: Chris is me on September 25, 2016, 11:53:22 am

Title: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: Chris is me on September 25, 2016, 11:53:22 am
Sometimes I play to fuck around and see what engine I can come up with instead of strictly optimal play. Sometimes I even win those games.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/d/d2/Stonemason.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Stonemason) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/c/c8/Horse_Traders.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Horse Traders) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/3/3c/Messenger.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Messenger) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/a/a0/Militia.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Militia) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/9/98/Library.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Library) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/c/cf/Royal_Carriage.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Royal Carriage) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/6/62/Vault.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Vault)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/d/df/Ball.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Ball) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/9/9d/Trade.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Trade) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/d/d6/Poor_House.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Poor House) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/6/60/Page.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Page) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/1/1d/Ratcatcher.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Ratcatcher)
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Ball, Trade, Poor House, Page, Ratcatcher, Stonemason, Horse Traders, Messenger, Militia, Library, Royal Carriage, Vault
Ugly Log (How do you make a prettified URL without using log search?): https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160925/log.0.1474818499128.txt

But basically, my game plan was, trash down with Ratcatcher, get to Champion fast, Stonemason for Library / Vault pairs any time I could, and then go for a big mega turn whenever I could using Horse Traders, Library, Vault, etc. Normally these aren't the best Library enablers, especially Horse Traders since you need so much Village support to make it all work, but Champion doesn't give a fuck. Even Stonemason came in handy!

Ended up with one of those barely won by 1 point games which are always fun.
Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: schadd on September 25, 2016, 07:17:17 pm
append "http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?" to the beginning of the link, like so:
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Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: Beyond Awesome on September 26, 2016, 05:01:53 pm
I don't like the silver buy t6. You already gained two silvers from treasure hunter.
Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: Chris is me on September 26, 2016, 08:46:11 pm
Quote from: Beyond Awesome on September 26, 2016, 05:01:53 pm
I don't like the silver buy t6. You already gained two silvers from treasure hunter.

Yeah, another Page that I never upgraded or another Ratcatcher probably would have been better, even if they didn't get used. Didn't really need more dead cards, and the marginal gain of a possible extra Warrior trash or an extra Rat-catch would have been better.
Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: Limetime on September 26, 2016, 09:05:34 pm
Quote from: Chris is me on September 26, 2016, 08:46:11 pm
Quote from: Beyond Awesome on September 26, 2016, 05:01:53 pm
I don't like the silver buy t6. You already gained two silvers from treasure hunter.

Yeah, another Page that I never upgraded or another Ratcatcher probably would have been better, even if they didn't get used. Didn't really need more dead cards, and the marginal gain of a possible extra Warrior trash or an extra Rat-catch would have been better.
Ratcatcher seems better than extra pages.
Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: Davio on September 27, 2016, 07:08:31 am
Well, extra Pages fuel Warrior, right?

So as long as your opponent doesn't have his Champion up, you might want more Pages to make Warrior look at more cards.
Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: Chris is me on September 27, 2016, 07:35:50 am
Quote from: Davio on September 27, 2016, 07:08:31 am
Well, extra Pages fuel Warrior, right?

So as long as your opponent doesn't have his Champion up, you might want more Pages to make Warrior look at more cards.

They also are skippable for Library which is a nice benefit in the big end turns.
Title: Re: Champion is the best Library enabler
Post by: gkrieg13 on September 27, 2016, 10:04:09 am
Quote from: Chris is me on September 27, 2016, 07:35:50 am
Quote from: Davio on September 27, 2016, 07:08:31 am
Well, extra Pages fuel Warrior, right?

So as long as your opponent doesn't have his Champion up, you might want more Pages to make Warrior look at more cards.

They also are skippable for Library which is a nice benefit in the big end turns.

But if you had to assign a percentage for how skippable they are, would it be somewhere around 90-93%?