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Title: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 11, 2016, 06:05:48 pm
Check back for actual art postings early next week.

This post is for explaining the method and other details of the art rankings. If you aren't interested in that, skip this post.

Now that I have a copy of Empires, we will post our art rankings of all the art printed on cards with the exception of the original Estate, Duchy, Province, Copper, Silver, Gold, Potion, Platinum, Colony, and Curse. They are more symbols than actual art. Ranking the Estate card, for example, would be identical to the other Victory cards. I have included all these cards with the new art from the Base Cards set. We will not be ranking box art or art from mats, rule books, or anything that isn't printed on a card. We also did our rankings based on the view of the art as printed on the actual cards not the high-res scans. As I make the art postings though, we will be pulling the high-res art from the Wiki. My thanks to Wero and anyone else who has done the work to make that available.

I have 379 cards with unique artwork. If I've missed something, it won't be hard for me to slide it in. I have included Randomizer art that is different from the stack (Knights and Castles for example) as well as each unique piece of art in a stack. I included the Randomizer separately for the Split Piles as well as each card from the Split Piles. All Events and Landmarks are included as well as Promos. I included the 2 different Trash cards separately as well.

Four of us have done the ranking: me and my 3 teen-age daughters ranging in age from 13 to 17. Only one of the three has played more than a couple of rounds of Dominion ever and even the one that has is not a serious Dominion player (we can discuss such awful parenting failures in another thread). I am a serious player but I am not very good. I have been near or at the bottom of the D league since I started playing. There will be almost no bias toward any card's art because of the way it plays. My daughters wouldn't know one card from the other. The only potential for that bias would be from me but, if there is any, it will be limited by the method.

I stacked the cards alphabetically and each individual went through and gave each card a rating between 1 and 7 (some of us used decimals and some didn't). Each person did this alone and could not see anyone else's ratings. I gave each person a chance to go back and look again and change their ratings after a 2nd pass, but only I did that. I then averaged the four ratings and sorted the cards by the average. I arbitrarily chose to break the cards into 26 groups, one for each letter of the English alphabet. This puts approximately 15 cards in each group. Any cards that had the same average were put into the same group. The groups, as a result, are of slightly different sizes.

We then sat down together and took each group and ordered the cards from worst to best by committee. No card was able to move out of its group. This helped to mitigate any bullying bias a member of the group had toward their particular ranking. If the average put the card in that group, it stayed in that group and we worked through a consensus of the ranking within that group.

All the credit for the idea of doing art rankings goes to jsh. I will at times quote his postings here (with permission) because I read all of his postings and they had a significant influence on how I view some of the cards, not to mention a lot of his stuff is very funny. This no way implies an endorsement from jsh to our art rankings.

I guarantee that anyone who reads our art rankings will at one time or another be disappointed, outraged, frustrated, and/or appalled at our rankings. We have done this for entertainment for ourselves. I apologize to any of the artists who may be offended at any of the comments. I have a lot of respect for artists. I don't have an artistic bone in my body and am not qualified to criticize anyone's art. In high school I had to take a semester of art so I could graduate. I took the beginning class and did my best. I attended every class and did every assignment. About half way through the teacher took pity on me. I was failing miserably. She offered to give me a B if I would do her grade book for her. I jumped at the opportunity and therefore got a B in the class.

To anyone posting comments on this thread, I would ask you to keep your language appropriate for a 13 year old to read. My daughters will certainly be interested in reading the posts.

Edit: It would appear that my daughters share my bias against the more cartoon style of art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on June 11, 2016, 07:58:15 pm
I cannot think of one time, in or out of RSP, that language has not been appropriate for a 13 year old. I'd like to think (as a 13 year old myself) my opinion holds a bit of weight, but that's probably a discussion for another thread as well.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 11, 2016, 08:43:51 pm
I've seen a few F bombs that I would have preferred not to see.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on June 11, 2016, 09:52:37 pm
I've seen a few F bombs that I would have preferred not to see.

Fudgesicle?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on June 11, 2016, 10:34:23 pm
I've seen a few F bombs that I would have preferred not to see.

Fudgesicle?

Fusion?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Kirian on June 12, 2016, 12:32:37 am
I've seen a few F bombs that I would have preferred not to see.

Well, if we go by movie rating logic, we can have one F bomb in the thread and it'll still be PG-13.

That said, she's 13, she almost certainly hears and/or uses "inappropriate" language every day at school.  I certainly did.  At home, too, for that matter.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: singletee on June 12, 2016, 12:35:04 am
I've seen a few F bombs that I would have preferred not to see.

Fudgesicle?

Fusion?

Fscout.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on June 12, 2016, 12:56:01 am
I've seen a few F bombs that I would have preferred not to see.

Well, if we go by movie rating logic, we can have one F bomb in the thread and it'll still be PG-13.

That said, she's 13, she almost certainly hears and/or uses "inappropriate" language every day at school.  I certainly did.  At home, too, for that matter.
Not to mention reading "F bomb" is essentially the same thing as reading the actual word. You acknowledge the actual word and probably say it in your head as well.

And by the actual word I of course mean falafel.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on June 12, 2016, 06:38:11 am
I cannot think of one time, in or out of RSP, that language has not been appropriate for a 13 year old. I'd like to think (as a 13 year old myself) my opinion holds a bit of weight, but that's probably a discussion for another thread as well.

In my experience of having been 13 somewhat recently (only 7 years ago!), I agree with this.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Burning Skull on June 12, 2016, 07:48:14 am
My thanks to Wero and anyone else who has done the work to make that available.

excuse me, what?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:17:31 am
OK. Here we go. Group Z contains 15 cards.

#379 - Harem

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9d/Harem.jpg/200px-Harem.jpg)

A lot has already been said about this art in the previous 2 postings from jsh's art rankings.

We had a discussion about the gender of the figure in red in the middle without coming to a conclusion. We wondered what the white lady with the crazy eyes is doing in the picture at all. It looks like a couple of the women have just come from the dentist and their cheeks are all swollen.

Whenever the Harem head shows up in Making Fun's creepy crystal ball, it freaks me out a little bit.

Aside from the dislike of the cartoonish art in general, I think one of the main problems with this card is the expectation created by the title which is unmet in spades. If a guy were going to have a harem, you'd think there would be some level of attractiveness to the women in it. Everything is just wrong with this card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:22:55 am
#378 - Masterpiece

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/09/Masterpiece.jpg/200px-Masterpiece.jpg)

"Where's the Masterpiece?" asked one daughter. Another wondered if that might be Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast. If you look close, it could be a little face there on the candlestick.

I think here again we have an expectation problem. When I think of masterpieces, I would think of a painting or a sculpture or perhaps even a vase. Candlestick? Really? It's not even symmetrical. Then you have that weird curvy thing going on with the window next to it. I've seen curves like that at the top of windows but never at the bottom.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:31:09 am
#377 - Shanty Town

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8e/Shanty_Town.jpg/200px-Shanty_Town.jpg)

There was a rather heated discussion about whether this was the worst card or Harem. I won out on the argument about what Harem is supposed to represent versus what is actually there. I mean, what do you really expect from a Shanty Town? Certainly not a deformed version of Mr. Potato Head or a Play-do figure gone wrong.

I'm not exactly sure how Masterpiece squeezed between this and Harem after the argument, but there it is.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:13:32 pm
#376 - Candlestick Maker

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2c/Candlestick_Maker.jpg/200px-Candlestick_Maker.jpg)

There's something wrong with the perspective here. The eyebrows are weird. He's polishing his candlesticks with a wig? He is working hard at it though with that muscle going in his neck.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:15:40 pm
#375 - Chancellor

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b7/Chancellor.jpg/200px-Chancellor.jpg)

Two words: Butt Chin.

One of my daughters thought he looks awfully constipated.

I think plenty has been previously posted about this card art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:22:13 pm
#374 - Pearl Diver

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/56/Pearl_Diver.jpg/200px-Pearl_Diver.jpg)

He's got some nice Botox going on with the lips. He's got the bubbles behind him as if he is propelling forward but the hair going all different directions as if he is not moving at all. If he's a Pearl Diver, why is he diving for Pan's flute?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on June 13, 2016, 12:25:52 pm
#378 - Masterpiece

"Where's the Masterpiece?" asked one daughter. Another wondered if that might be Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast. If you look close, it could be a little face there on the candlestick.

I think here again we have an expectation problem. When I think of masterpieces, I would think of a painting or a sculpture or perhaps even a vase. Candlestick? Really? It's not even symmetrical. Then you have that weird curvy thing going on with the window next to it. I've seen curves like that at the top of windows but never at the bottom.
I always interpreted this as the Candlestick Maker's Masterpiece. You'll note that both cards have the same artist and are from the same set.

Surprised to see this as the second worst card. I actually sort of like the art. Even a candlestick can be a masterpiece to some.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 12:34:40 pm
An excellent point. My daughters are not Dominion players and have no idea about any such link between cards.

Edit: You see, though, that the Candlestick Maker didn't fare much better than his Masterpiece. Perhaps he is really the man from the 'There was a crooked man..' bit rather than from 'Rub-a-dub-dub, 3 men in a tub'.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 13, 2016, 02:06:00 pm
He's got the bubbles behind him as if he is propelling forward

Those bubbles though. Hadn't really thought about it that much. Is it just his toes spinning at a rapid rate? Does he have miniature propellers attached to them? All good questions
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: enfynet on June 13, 2016, 02:50:13 pm
I assumed the bubbles were created when he dove into the water, and his hair is the result of him lifting his head and slowing as he reaches for the pearl?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 07:52:23 pm
#373 - Scout

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/46/Scout.jpg/200px-Scout.jpg)

Not only is Scout a poor card (roadrunner interjects here), we think it has poor art as well.

No neck, withered hand, freaky shaped boot.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 13, 2016, 07:54:10 pm
I think Scout's art is better than most people think. I don't know if it's trash tier. I think Junk Dealer belongs in the trash tier. That 3D modeled picture is just awful. I'm expecting Borrow's art shortly.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 07:55:31 pm
#372 - Teacher

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/27/Teacher.jpg/200px-Teacher.jpg)

The bulbous head, withered ear, and Top-Ramen beard just aren't working for us here. The weird forefinger (maybe he stole Scout's hand) is strange too.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: brokoli on June 13, 2016, 07:56:48 pm
The thing with cartoon art is not that it's cartoon art, but that it's very bad cartoon art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 13, 2016, 08:03:13 pm
#371 - Fugitive

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/bd/Fugitive.jpg/200px-Fugitive.jpg)

Up until now, I don't think there has been anything too controversial about the art postings. I think that is about to change.

My daughters all really disliked this piece of art. His hand is too small compared to his face. He's got the lazy eye thing going or perhaps he can look two different places at once. They think it looks like he is wearing an old-lady shawl.

Dissenting opinion: I hope I'll give equal voice to my daughter's dissenting opinions as well, but I am writing the posts after all. I actually think this image works for this card. Sure, it's not the greatest art ever. However, this guy is on the run, presumably after deserting from the army, and is probably sleeping in barns and hungry and cold most of the time. I think this art captures that at some decent level. No way I put this in the bottom group on my own.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 13, 2016, 09:20:57 pm
I love the video JSH made where he is cracking up at the Peasant line art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 13, 2016, 09:39:52 pm
I see a theme going on here.  Tiny hands don't bode well for card art rankings.  Does remind me of some other people with tiny hands.

(https://i.redditmedia.com/H0zOjy5mLsZcYUWeqinWMU7O6PtJsPsB2tOZz5BO-uA.jpg?w=800&s=3bc473adff0c7c5fa518bfff2b657fc7)    (https://www.fxguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/LumaPictures_deadpool_8.jpg?67371f)

I wonder how these would stack up against Teacher and Fugitive.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 13, 2016, 09:41:14 pm
I love the video JSH made where he is cracking up at the Peasant line art.

Link?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: singletee on June 13, 2016, 09:48:40 pm
I see a theme going on here.  Tiny hands don't bode well for card art rankings.  Does remind me of some other people with tiny hands.

[...]

http://onetinyhand.com/
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jsh357 on June 13, 2016, 10:07:30 pm
I love the video JSH made where he is cracking up at the Peasant line art.

Link?

Twitch didn't save it
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 13, 2016, 11:18:28 pm
I love the video JSH made where he is cracking up at the Peasant line art.

Link?

Twitch didn't save it

Why don't people just have their Twitch streams go to YouTube afterwards? This is such an annoying problem that could be prevented.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jsh357 on June 13, 2016, 11:23:04 pm
I love the video JSH made where he is cracking up at the Peasant line art.

Link?

Twitch didn't save it

Why don't people just have their Twitch streams go to YouTube afterwards? This is such an annoying problem that could be prevented.

The annoying thing is Twitch likes to change your settings periodically, or at least it has in the past. I had set it to archive all of my streams, then that functionality went away at some point and I ended up losing a lot of stuff. My youtube account was generating almost no views at that time so I didn't think it was worth saving anything there. Now, it seems like it's doing a bit better so I've been backing up my videos again. (it also helps that Twitch now lets you export directly; in the past I had to download my videos, edit them in Camtasia Studio, wait for that to render, and upload them to Youtube)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 13, 2016, 11:46:25 pm
#371 - Fugitive

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/bd/Fugitive.jpg/200px-Fugitive.jpg)

Up until now, I don't think there has been anything too controversial about the art postings. I think that is about to change.

My daughters all really disliked this piece of art. His hand is too small compared to his face. He's got the lazy eye thing going or perhaps he can look two different places at once. They think it looks like he is wearing an old-lady shawl.

Dissenting opinion: I hope I'll give equal voice to my daughter's dissenting opinions as well, but I am writing the posts after all. I actually think this image works for this card. Sure, it's not the greatest art ever. However, this guy is on the run, presumably after deserting from the army, and is probably sleeping in barns and hungry and cold most of the time. I think this art captures that at some decent level. No way I put this in the bottom group on my own.

Though I agree that this picture captures the mood or theme of the card fairly well, particularly in the color scheme, those eyes definitely freak me out when I look at him. It's like he is staring at me and something to my right at the same time. Very disconcerting.  I don't know how soon he is going to appear, but I would definitely put Mandarin below this guy. Mandarin's misshapen head and unbalanced mustache are much weirder to me.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SirSlugma on June 13, 2016, 11:50:55 pm
Man, there's no way I'd call the Peasant art good, but there's something that I find really enjoyable about it.  Maybe it's the weird combination of a very powerful line of cards with very silly artwork?  I dunno, but it's better than any of the Kelli Stakenas pictures, or the bad Lynell Ingram art. (Or Navigator, which oddly hasn't shown up yet.)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 14, 2016, 12:16:14 am
My thoughts on a few of these cards:

Harem: Just plain weird, even scary

Masterpiece: Though it may be connected to Candlestick Maker, when you take it on its own, which I believe is how they are being judged, then it definitely does not fit my idea of a masterpiece. And the stained glass artist was not having his best day when he made that window.

Chancellor: He has always struck me as looking like he just put the last Oreo in his mouth and is trying to pretend there is nothing in there.

Shanty Town: The moon is pretty good, but the guy in the door way appears to be Igor escaped from Dr. Frankenstein.  His head is wide at the top and quickly tapers into the pointiest chin in history. But that eye of his is very strange. After the guy in green, it's basically the first thing I see when I look at that card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on June 14, 2016, 06:15:53 am
I find the Peasant line's art terrible, in a cute way. Fugitive is clearly the worst there.
Where is the computer-generated art? Some of it should definitely be around here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on June 14, 2016, 06:35:38 am
I think Teacher is actually pretty good. Shanty Town, too.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on June 14, 2016, 09:07:47 am
Honestly, I find Royal Carriage to be the worst of Kelli Stakenas' art - it looks like it was drawn in crayon. Her other stuff is fine.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on June 14, 2016, 10:18:11 am
Honestly, I find Royal Carriage to be the worst of Kelli Stakenas' art - it looks like it was drawn in crayon. Her other stuff is fine.

What's wrong with crayon?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 10:29:28 am
Honestly, I find Royal Carriage to be the worst of Kelli Stakenas' art - it looks like it was drawn in crayon. Her other stuff is fine.

What's wrong with crayon?

(https://drawception.com/pub/panels/2016/2-3/KySGSPZbnG-6.png)

Everything.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on June 14, 2016, 11:26:44 am
(https://drawception.com/pub/panels/2016/2-3/KySGSPZbnG-6.png)

Everything.

How is Drawception related to crayon?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on June 14, 2016, 11:34:12 am
Honestly, I find Royal Carriage to be the worst of Kelli Stakenas' art - it looks like it was drawn in crayon. Her other stuff is fine.
The legs on the horse in Royal Carriage always crack me up. Looks like it's rolling an ankle (hoof).
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 11:36:33 am
(http://thenerve.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/crayon-drawing-people.jpg)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LostPhoenix on June 14, 2016, 11:41:47 am
I never thought that the art for teacher was bad at all, but really, the longer you stare at it, the weirder it looks.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 12:06:09 pm
#370 - Peasant

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/70/Peasant.jpg/200px-Peasant.jpg)

Here's 3 in a row for the Peasant line. Not all 5 made group Z

The background is a bit psychedelic like maybe this guy is growing something other than wheat. He's got a red birthmark there on his face that apparently faded with time.

My daughters really didn't like this line of art. They didn't even know that it was a line of art until I told them while we were debating the ranking within group Z.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 12:09:27 pm
I actually really like peasant's art. Maybe I'm a minority here, but I actually liked it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: gkrieg13 on June 14, 2016, 12:10:00 pm
#370 - Peasant

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/70/Peasant.jpg/200px-Peasant.jpg)

Here's 3 in a row for the Peasant line. Not all 5 made group Z

The background is a bit psychedelic like maybe this guy is growing something other than wheat. He's got a red birthmark there on his face that apparently faded with time.

My daughters really didn't like this line of art. They didn't even know that it was a line of art until I told them while we were debating the ranking within group Z.

I really like peasant's art as well.  I have to disagree with this art ranking.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 12:12:57 pm
#369 - Salt the Earth

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/66/Salt_the_Earth.jpg/320px-Salt_the_Earth.jpg)

Domo arigato Misters robotos.

I suppose you would need guards if you were going out to salt peoples' fields, but they are in awfully close proximity. It's nice that they got a set of twins to guard her.

What are they all staring at in the distance? If I were walking over a field, I would probably want to look down a little so I didn't fall flat on my face.

Is that a cyclone forming in the background?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 12:14:11 pm
No, that's the smoke of her house razed to the ground because she can't pay taxes!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on June 14, 2016, 12:17:05 pm
#369 - Salt the Earth

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/66/Salt_the_Earth.jpg/320px-Salt_the_Earth.jpg)

Domo arigato Misters robotos.

I suppose you would need guards if you were going out to salt peoples' fields, but they are in awfully close proximity. It's nice that they got a set of twins to guard her.

What are they all staring at in the distance? If I were walking over a field, I would probably want to look down a little so I didn't fall flat on my face.

Is that a cyclone forming in the background?

I'm surprised by this. It's not among the best, but neither it belongs here among the worst. You must really hate cartoony art, because this is pretty much the best dominion has to offer.  ;)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 12:17:48 pm
#368 - Minion

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/47/Minion.jpg/200px-Minion.jpg)

This guy has kind of a nice Steven Tyler thing going. His goatee kind of blends in with the purple shirt which make it look a little funny.

The wall to the left doesn't seem to be square and I'm not sure I'd want to stand near it. The picture on the wall is not very flattering to whoever it is, presumably the ruler.

He arm has some type of ant infestation which is really gross.

Edit: When we play, the name of this card is always imitated after the way Floop says it in the movie Spy Kids.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ignorentmen on June 14, 2016, 01:48:54 pm
#368 - Minion

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/47/Minion.jpg/200px-Minion.jpg)
The picture on the wall is not very flattering to whoever it is, presumably the ruler.

(http://i.imgur.com/hhSIE9T.jpg?1)   (http://i.imgur.com/t6VtDWl.jpg?1)

i always thought the Minion picture guy was the Duke and as a result liked the Minion art more because of the cross over, but now that I compare them side by side I am not so sure anymore.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 06:03:48 pm
#367 - Charm

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg)

This is another card that I think shouldn't have been this low. But my daughters collectively rated it poorly.

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber. It's the only thing I see. I didn't even notice there was a candle in it until I really looked hard.

My daughters thought the candles looked gross, that the perspective is wonky and there are no shadows.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 06:09:59 pm
#366 - Militia

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a0/Militia.jpg/200px-Militia.jpg)

One guy with one glass eye and the other a black hole next to a guy with a nice mullet wasn't working for us. This is another card that when they guy with the foggy eye came up in Making Fun's crystal ball, it made me cringe.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 14, 2016, 06:14:38 pm
I agree with Minion, but certainly there are a lot of cards that are much worse than Salt The Earth. The girl's arms are strangely proportioned or positioned, but the rest of it is not too bad.  I think it is definitely in the lower third of the cards, but not this low.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 06:18:01 pm
#365 - Fairgrounds

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7e/Fairgrounds.jpg/200px-Fairgrounds.jpg)

Another card that I didn't think belonged this low. My daughters all agreed on one point in particular. If this was the ad for the fair you were putting on, nobody would come.

Either the melancholy, wraith-like girl in the foreground couldn't get in or her boyfriend dumped her for Judy at the fair and it's her party and she'll cry if she wants to. What's she got in the basket? Parsley? Sage? Rosemary? Thyme? The people down at the fair seem to be running for cover.

Overall we felt that this image did not remotely capture what you would expect for Fairgrounds.

This is the final card for group Z. We will get to work on the next group.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 06:21:38 pm
So it is established that art must not only reflect general aesthetic art quality, but also must attain the imagery that the judges envision when they think of a word. Hmmm.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ignorentmen on June 14, 2016, 06:22:55 pm
#365 - Fairgrounds

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7e/Fairgrounds.jpg/200px-Fairgrounds.jpg)
Overall we felt that this image did not remotely capture what you would expect for Fairgrounds.

This is a travesty!

The card art is perfect. Because it reflects the end of a fairgrounds. All the food has been eaten. The games have been played. The rides are coming down. It is the end of autumn and all that is left is the cruel, horrible winter ahead. Sadness, despair, grief. Until next spring.

Just like when you play a game of Dominion. Fairgrounds are fun because you want to buy lots of Action cards, + cards, + buy, gainers, trashers, + $, Attacks, Interactions. But once you actually get to the point of buying Fairgrounds all that you have left is the cruel greening slowly turning into the end of the game. Sadness, despair, grief. Until the next game starts.

This card should be on the flip side. If the highest score given was 379. I would give it around a 365.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 06:28:47 pm
I didn't really give any guidelines for how they should rate the art. I agree that of all the card postings so far, this one is way off. The disadvantages of art ranking by committee, I suppose.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 06:31:21 pm
So it is established that art must not only reflect general aesthetic art quality, but also must attain the imagery that the judges envision when they think of a word. Hmmm.

There is always some link. If I showed you the art for Fairgrounds and used it for a card named 'Siege', I think you would not rate it highly.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on June 14, 2016, 06:43:53 pm
I didn't really give any guidelines for how they should rate the art. I agree that of all the card postings so far, this one is way off. The disadvantages of art ranking by committee, I suppose.
That's why we have brackets!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: drsteelhammer on June 14, 2016, 06:56:34 pm
Somebody stole jamsamfam's Navigator cards and hid them somewhere. Or put them on the first place to troll us.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on June 14, 2016, 07:33:44 pm
Where the hell is Borrow?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 14, 2016, 07:34:57 pm
Somebody stole jamsamfam's Navigator cards and hid them somewhere. Or put them on the first place to troll us.

Navigator and Borrow are in group Y
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on June 14, 2016, 08:02:39 pm
On the Z group...
The thing that most bothers me about Harem is the composition.  Imagine trying to reenact this in a photo--you stand right up next to the camera, and I'll stand partly behind you, looking at something behind your head.

Wikipedia tells me that "salt the earth" is an expression with no basis in fact.  So it's pretty hard to say how it should have been depicted.  Casually sprinkling the earth with salt from a bowl doesn't seem right though.

The thing that bothers me most about Minion is that the artist put a bright red curtain behind him for color contrast, but somehow lost confidence in it, and felt the need to also outline his frame as if he were glowing.

I disagree with the peasant line rankings.  I'm impressed with how, throughout his life, the guy always finds the right lighting to suit his mood.  I'm feeling kind of a blue right now, but the lights here are warm yellow.  It's like going to the fairgrounds and finding that the weather is just so dusty and gloomy.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 08:06:05 pm
Wikipedia tells me that "salt the earth" is an expression with no basis in fact.  So it's pretty hard to say how it should have been depicted.  Casually sprinkling the earth with salt from a bowl doesn't seem right though.

I don't think I agree that there is no basis in fact for salting the earth. (I know, I'm such an expert right?) The Romans allegedly did that to Carthage after the Third Punic War. Maybe it was just symbolic language, but the Romans really destroyed Carthage pretty badly in that third war.

edit: Quoting from a wikipedia article:

Quote
Many Carthaginians died from starvation during the later part of the siege, while many others died in the final six days of fighting. When the war ended, the remaining 50,000 Carthaginians, a small part of the original pre-war population, were, as was the normal fate in antiquity of inhabitants of sacked cities, sold into slavery by the victors.[4] Carthage was systematically burned for 17 days; the city's walls and buildings were utterly destroyed. The remaining Carthaginian territories were annexed by Rome and reconstituted to become the Roman province of Africa.

That Roman forces then sowed the city with salt to ensure that nothing would grow there again is almost certainly a 19th-century invention.

Hey, you learn something new every day.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on June 14, 2016, 08:10:08 pm
Wikipedia tells me that "salt the earth" is an expression with no basis in fact.  So it's pretty hard to say how it should have been depicted.  Casually sprinkling the earth with salt from a bowl doesn't seem right though.

I don't think I agree that there is no basis in fact for salting the earth. (I know, I'm such an expert right?) The Romans allegedly did that to Carthage after the Third Punic War. Maybe it was just symbolic language, but the Romans really destroyed Carthage pretty badly in that third war.
More precisely, Wikipedia said it was something of a symbolic practice, but they didn't actually use so much salt as to prevent land use.  Hey, maybe the symbolic practice involved a woman casually sprinkling salt all over her toga while two soldiers stand at her side.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 14, 2016, 08:57:54 pm
For some reason, I really like Fairgrounds.  Perhaps it's just the power of subliminal suggestion since I really love it when this card shows up in a kingdom.  JSH had it at 209 out of 241 in his original list for the same reason as you - it doesn't capture the joy and excitement of a fair. 

Throwing that aside, the art itself is actually pretty good, and I like the way it contrasts with the green of the victory card. It would personally be in my top 150 at least.  But if connection to the card's name is critical to this voting, then I agree it would have to lose points for that.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 14, 2016, 09:03:14 pm
Militia looks more like the deserters from the militia rather than the actual militia.  I am really not sure how effective the guy on the right is going to be with some weird sweater vest for protection.  And is he wearing a kilt?  At least the guy on the left has a helmet.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SirSlugma on June 14, 2016, 10:23:31 pm
Fairgrounds is really quite bleak looking for a card named Fairgrounds, but Jessica Cox's art is generally quite good and it's one of her better pictures, I think.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on June 15, 2016, 12:50:08 am
Militia looks more like the deserters from the militia rather than the actual militia.  I am really not sure how effective the guy on the right is going to be with some weird sweater vest for protection.  And is he wearing a kilt?  At least the guy on the left has a helmet.
In my mind, the Militia guys share a spiritual bond with Sgt Fred Colon and Corporal Nobby Nobbs of the Watch.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on June 15, 2016, 01:10:52 am
Militia looks more like the deserters from the militia rather than the actual militia.  I am really not sure how effective the guy on the right is going to be with some weird sweater vest for protection.  And is he wearing a kilt?  At least the guy on the left has a helmet.
In my mind, the Militia guys share a spiritual bond with Sgt Fred Colon and Corporal Nobby Nobbs of the Watch.

I've mentioned this before, but the guy on the right in Militia reminds me of Riff Raff from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on June 15, 2016, 01:25:48 am
#367 - Charm
This is another card that I think shouldn't have been this low. But my daughters collectively rated it poorly.

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber. It's the only thing I see. I didn't even notice there was a candle in it until I really looked hard.

My daughters thought the candles looked gross, that the perspective is wonky and there are no shadows.

I wholeheartedly agree with your daughters here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 12:06:20 pm
#364 - Borrow

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/88/Borrow.jpg/320px-Borrow.jpg)

Here is the start of group Y, 15 cards.

We've got Rumplestilskin loaning some of his straw-spun gold to a guy who has had at least on major brain surgery. There's something shady about this whole transaction. Perhaps it should have gone with Loan Shark. The guy on the left has really large hands.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 12:11:56 pm
#363 - Navigator

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Navigator.jpg/200px-Navigator.jpg)

jsh had this to say "Is anyone surprised by this? If you are, man, I don't know what to tell you. Look at his massive arm. I'm not sure what Bruce Banner is doing out on the open seas, but hopefully the poor guy found some peace out there."

I don't know what we could add to that other than we were glad that Jerry Seinfeld loaned him the Puffy Shirt.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 12:16:11 pm
#362 - Disciple

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/Disciple.jpg/200px-Disciple.jpg)

Disciple isn't far behind his younger and older selves. There is way too much brown in the picture. It maintains the jittery feel that I thought worked for Fugitive but doesn't work here.

I assume he has already lost most of his hair here and is wearing an ugly hat that matches his robe. Either that or that is his natural hair and he has an awful lot of body hair. The eyes of the whole line are creepy and this is no exception. I'm not sure how that twig neck holds up his head either.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 15, 2016, 03:38:35 pm
Both Borrow and Navigator could have easily been in group Z, but at least they are at the bottom of the next group.

Though there are plenty of cards I would put below Disciple (I can think of 3 just from the base set), I agree with much of your assessment.  The predominant brown theme is quite overwhelming. It must be quite boring to be a disciple of whatever group he has joined. I'm not sure why he is wearing a shower cap. I agree his eyes are creepy, like he is either in some kind of trance or just discovered something surprising.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on June 15, 2016, 03:48:37 pm
Both Borrow and Navigator could have easily been in group Z, but at least they are at the bottom of the next group.

Though there are plenty of cards I would put below Disciple (I can think of 3 just from the base set), I agree with much of your assessment.  The predominant brown theme is quite overwhelming. It must be quite boring to be a disciple of whatever group he has joined. I'm not sure why he is wearing a shower cap. I agree his eyes are creepy, like he is either in some kind of trance or just discovered something surprising.
Navigator would be last if I made a list, just barely edging out Harem on account of that card being so hilariously bad that I actually like it more over time.

Overall, I don't have many complaints with the list other than Fairgrounds, which is close to top 5 for me. I fscouting love Jessi J's card art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on June 15, 2016, 04:27:23 pm
I had no idea the Navigator art was so unpopular. I have no issues with it, even if it's not amazing.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 07:17:34 pm
#361 - Battlefiled

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b0/Battlefield.jpg/320px-Battlefield.jpg)

Here's more hate on the cartoon-style art. My apologies to DXV and RGG for mentioning the competition, but this art looks like it belongs on a Small World box.

Why are they fighting in the clouds? Yes, we know it's snow, but that wasn't what we thought on first look. One daughter thought the bird looks like a wolf with wings. I'm not sure trained wolves were part of the Roman attacks. Also, since they are doing battle in the snow, you assume that they camped in the snow as well. They are a little under-dressed.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 07:22:39 pm
#360 - Pillage

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/74/Pillage.jpg/200px-Pillage.jpg)

I have mixed feelings about this one. I love that it's Village being pillaged. My daughters, not knowing about the Village art, wondered why they are attacking Hobbiton.

Now, I get that any of us can be captured in an unflattering moment. But this isn't a photograph. Don't draw the unflattering moment when his face is all contorted. Also, why include the stick and shadow covering his face? Is that his arm with the sword or some other mysterious individual?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 07:28:14 pm
#359 - Scrying Pool

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/79/Scrying_Pool.jpg/200px-Scrying_Pool.jpg)

We've got Glenda, the good witch, looking in the Scrying Pool. She sees Village (once again, I love that). One daughter wondered if she weren't brewing a love potion. One wondered about the floating eyeballs.

The art doesn't really fit an attack card. Now, in defense of the artist on that point, I'm not sure they know what type of card it will be going in. AND, in this case, even if known, DXV said the attack was added later.

Dissenting opinion: One of my daughters really likes this art and didn't think it belonged down here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LostPhoenix on June 15, 2016, 07:42:44 pm
Personally, I absolutely love the art for Scrying Pool, but I'm really not surprised that it's this low.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on June 15, 2016, 07:45:29 pm
When I was watching TV a few weeks ago, I was struck by a random though: what is jamfamsam? I couldn't figure it out and I was getting a little frustrated. I thought I had heard it on a commercial or something. But voila, jamfamsam has revealed himself and I can now be at peace.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 08:18:06 pm
Huh?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 11:39:02 pm
Just to clear up any confusion about who I am, I am wanderingwinder.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 16, 2016, 12:05:58 pm
#358 - Fortune

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/05/Fortune.jpg/200px-Fortune.jpg)

The sandals are either super tight or tattooed on his feet.

Risk your life, defeat your enemy, and your reward? A chest of sliced pickles.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 16, 2016, 12:08:17 pm
#357 - Amulet

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/50/Amulet.jpg/200px-Amulet.jpg)

The fiery background is weird. The two kissing dragons are cool. However, you couldn't actually wear this amulet without serious discomfort since the spiky dragon bodies turn and go around the back.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 16, 2016, 12:12:28 pm
#356 - Duke

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/10/Duke.jpg/200px-Duke.jpg)

This guy is so proud of his dukedom. He really shouldn't have had his upholsterer also be his tailor.

We think that might be the Loch Ness monster in the river there.

Whenever this card gets bought when we play, it is called Duke of Earl.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 16, 2016, 08:36:59 pm
#355 - Fool's Gold

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ed/Fool%27s_Gold.jpg/200px-Fool%27s_Gold.jpg)

The consensus was that this was just weird. It's a really hard concept. Perhaps we were looking for more of the classic iron pyrite type rock? Unmet expectations have their toll.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 16, 2016, 09:22:01 pm
#354 - Capital

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/eb/Capital.jpg/200px-Capital.jpg)

Not sure Capital deserves being here. A bunch of money sitting out in the town square or perhaps in an open window?

I feel bad for the artists when they get assigned this type of card. What did you get? Chariot Race. I got Capital. You mean Capitol? No, like investment Capital.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 16, 2016, 09:26:00 pm
#353 - Bridge Troll

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/77/Bridge_Troll.jpg/200px-Bridge_Troll.jpg)

It's just too hard to tell what's going on here. When I enlarge the this art, I think it might be pretty cool but it's still too dark. Can't really see any detail on the troll at all.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on June 17, 2016, 12:16:18 am
I completely agree about Bridge Troll. On one hand, it's kindof a shame that the usual way to view all this artwork is in a much smaller form that it's original resolution. On the other hand, if the purpose of the artwork is to be put on Dominion cards, the artwork should be appropriate to view on Dominion cards. And by 'appropriate to view', I mean we can see what's happening in the picture and don't miss significant details. Bridge Troll is a good example of not being able to see the picture well when it's sized for the card, but there are several Dominion cards where it's hard to tell what's going on in the picture by looking at the card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on June 17, 2016, 01:41:19 am
My least favorite Dominion art are actually the ones that are too dark.  Bridge Troll is the worst.  Also don't like Catacombs or Laboratory.  For the longest time I thought Laboratory was a picture of a door with a window until I realized that it was actually an arch with a chandelier.

At least I can make fun of Harem, and that provides its own kind of special joy, but I just can't tell what's going on with Bridge Troll.  379/379.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 17, 2016, 10:58:13 am
#353 - Bridge Troll
It's just too hard to tell what's going on here. When I enlarge the this art, I think it might be pretty cool but it's still too dark. Can't really see any detail on the troll at all.
http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/338/
It's actually pretty good at this resolution!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 17, 2016, 11:04:13 am
It's too bad about Bridge Troll. I almost think that whoever inserted the image should have just zoomed in so that the troll is easier to see.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 17, 2016, 11:24:36 am
#352 - Adventurer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/71/Adventurer.jpg/200px-Adventurer.jpg)

The super-size pink cape is going to be awfully difficult to go adventuring in. The neon green trees fit nicely with the weird colored clouds.

One of my daughters really liked this art and thought it did a nice job of capturing the mystery of adventures.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 17, 2016, 11:27:09 am
#351 - Plunder

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/da/Plunder.jpg/200px-Plunder.jpg)

Another image that is really too dark. Way too much brown here. I'm not sure I would have hauled that statue off into the woods. What caused the big crater back to the right?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 17, 2016, 11:31:00 am
#351 - Plunder

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/da/Plunder.jpg/200px-Plunder.jpg)

Another image that is really too dark. Way too much brown here. I'm not sure I would have hauled that statue off into the woods. What caused the big crater back to the right?

That good sir, is part of the Roman protocol when it came to building camps, or castra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castra). There would be a wall, and then a moat-like trench surrounding the wall. I don't know what happened to the wall, but there should be one, even if it's a crappy twig palisade wall, a la Age of Empires:

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/ageofempires/images/e/ea/Palisade.png/revision/latest?cb=20120813161514)

Edit: ...Except there's no moat on the other side. Okay, this is pretty sad then.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 17, 2016, 11:32:13 am
#350 - Encampment/Plunder

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/94/Encampment_Plunder.jpg/374px-Encampment_Plunder.jpg)

Once again my thanks to wero for making these images available. Go to the wiki and edit something for him.

A bunch of brown triangles in a brown field. Too brown and too dark. It's fitting these two are next to each other. The question in my mind is, how did Encampment get located elsewhere? Where did the crater go?

This wraps up group Y.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on June 17, 2016, 12:07:52 pm
The point of an encampment is that it's temporary/portable.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 17, 2016, 12:14:43 pm
I'm starting a spreadsheet where I'll find the average art ranking of each artist and then find the best artist from there. Once all the groups are finished I'll share the results.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 17, 2016, 03:00:37 pm
I don't have much disagreement with most of the choices in group Y, though I still feel there are others that are worse than some of these. The 2 that I think don't belong here are Scrying Pool and Capital.

I'm not a big fan of the cartoony art, but Scrying Pool is certainly one of the best of that style.  Much of it is very well drawn, and the Village connection is really cool. I agree about the eyeballs floating around. I have no idea what they are supposed to be.

Capital is actually pretty decent artwork, but rather boring. Of course, as you mentioned, there is not a lot you can do with the subject. Still, the art itself is much better than many other cards.

I can't believe how much better Bridge Troll is in high resolution. I could tell someone was crossing the bridge, but I had no idea it was a horse behind him. I was also wondering why the troll was just letting him pass without stopping him.  The picture shows the troll looking over his shoulder at the noise he hears.  Looks like there won't be peace for long.  What a shame the cards can't show this detail, because it is really quite an amazing picture.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on June 17, 2016, 03:04:23 pm
I'm starting a spreadsheet where I'll find the average art ranking of each artist and then find the best artist from there. Once all the groups are finished I'll share the results.

Well we all know who will be in last place . . .
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 17, 2016, 06:59:05 pm
#349 - Count

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a1/Count.jpg/200px-Count.jpg)

This is the beginning of group X, 13 cards.

I always assumed the guy on the left was the Count but when my daughters asked me, I wasn't so sure.

Chancellor Palpatine, post-electric shock from Mace Windu, makes an appearance. Either that or Norman Bates pulls out his deceased mother from the backroom. Those are some seriously big hands, particularly the finger.

These two talk while the world burns outside.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 17, 2016, 07:04:04 pm
#348 - Butcher

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ed/Butcher.jpg/200px-Butcher.jpg)

It almost looks like this guy has gills even though I know that's the wrinkled skin on the back of his neck. The tattoo around the eye complicates the picture as well as the earring. That's a nice rip in his pants or a nice human skin bag.

My girls thought it might be Voldemort chopping meat while waiting around for his plans to come to fruition but that is certainly not Voldemort's nose.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 17, 2016, 07:08:44 pm
#347 - Smithy

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Smithy.jpg/200px-Smithy.jpg)

not much more to say than what jsh had to say "There are two men here, one holding an anvil while the other pounds it. The dwarven smith, with his misshapen face and enormous fingers, looks like something out of a fairy tale. Some say Dominion had no fantasy roots until Alchemy, but here it is. Those people had also never heard of Witch. Something about the details on the two men's skin has always rubbed me the wrong way in this art, but it's hard to describe as a layperson. Yes, the anvil holder seems muscular, but he also appears to be made of marble, ill fitting the darkness of the forge the two reside in. Today is the first day I noticed the smith is wearing a green hat. Go me. The anvil (or is it an axe head?) is drawn a bit crookedly, I think. Whatever the minor details are, at the end of the day this art doesn't please me particularly. I always feel like I'm losing fashion points by adding it to my deck. Let's get out of here before these two start looking at me funny."

I wouldn't be too thrilled holding the item there with the guy pounding closing his eyes as he strikes. Why does the guy on the left have chocolate streaming down his head?

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SirSlugma on June 17, 2016, 08:09:19 pm
Man I know that dude on County is creepy but that's why it's so good. Top 10 art for me for sure. Sooooooo good.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: J Reggie on June 17, 2016, 11:58:27 pm
I've always wondered which one is the Count, and who the other person is.

One time I was saying that Smithy was the most vanilla card in Dominion and one of my friends said that what those two guys are doing is definitely not vanilla.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 18, 2016, 12:06:30 am
That Smithy is rockin' that BDSM costume.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on June 18, 2016, 12:33:05 am
#353 - Bridge Troll

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/77/Bridge_Troll.jpg/200px-Bridge_Troll.jpg)

It's just too hard to tell what's going on here. When I enlarge the this art, I think it might be pretty cool but it's still too dark. Can't really see any detail on the troll at all.

Bridge Troll might as well be a black-to-grey color gradient at the playing card sizw. That's basically what I imagine in my mind when I see it.

It's just too dark to make out anything.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 18, 2016, 01:13:18 am
#353 - Bridge Troll
It's just too hard to tell what's going on here. When I enlarge the this art, I think it might be pretty cool but it's still too dark. Can't really see any detail on the troll at all.
http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/338/
It's actually pretty good at this resolution!

Wow, that is such a huge difference.  I'd say the problem isn't the resolution, but the crazy darkening of the art when it was transferred to the card.  Who knows what part of the process caused it, but I wanted to see how the card would look with that in it, so I dropped it into GIMP.  Here is the result:

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/77/Bridge_Troll.jpg/180px-Bridge_Troll.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/fdNRotI.jpg)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on June 18, 2016, 09:52:06 am
See, I tried making the art less dark, but that kept making the orange border blue-ish... :/
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 18, 2016, 10:29:52 am
I've got the one I made out of the high-res card and the digital image from Kurt's blog if you want it, but I don't know if it is better to have the art look good, or accurately match the card.

He did Hunting Party too and has a similar image on his blog, so I could do that one also.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on June 18, 2016, 10:34:39 am
I've got the one I made out of the high-res card and the digital image from Kurt's blog if you want it, but I don't know if it is better to have the art look good, or accurately match the card.

He did Hunting Party too and has a similar image on his blog, so I could do that one also.

I think it's better to have the scan match the card; the full art gets put down in the trivia section, anyway (when I can find it; for Adventures/Empires, I've had to hunt around the internet for artist pages to find some of it, but definitely not all of it).
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 03:01:34 pm
#346 - Gladiator

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e9/Gladiator.jpg/200px-Gladiator.jpg)

This guy's secret to success is apparently eating a boat-load of beets. Maybe that's why they gave him the pickles for winning so he'd have some variety in his diet. It's really nice, pink skin though. Also, his arm seems to be too big to actually fit behind the shield.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 03:06:11 pm
#345 - Mandarin

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/68/Mandarin.jpg/200px-Mandarin.jpg)

I've never been able to tell if we are looking at a straight-on view of his face or a profile. The weird shadow creatures from the Princess Frog are coming up on the right to grab him.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 03:08:00 pm
#344 - Envoy

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0c/Envoy.jpg/200px-Envoy.jpg)

This guy looks totally befuddled. 'You wanted me to tell him what again?' My daughters say he looks like the messenger in one of the versions of Romeo and Juliet. That's a really nice hat he stole from Legend of Zelda.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 18, 2016, 04:18:01 pm
#349 - Count

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a1/Count.jpg/200px-Count.jpg)

This is the beginning of group X, 13 cards.

I always assumed the guy on the left was the Count but when my daughters asked me, I wasn't so sure.

Chancellor Palpatine, post-electric shock from Mace Windu, makes an appearance. Either that or Norman Bates pulls out his deceased mother from the backroom. Those are some seriously big hands, particularly the finger.

These two talk while the world burns outside.

I always thought that it was the good Count on one side and the bad Count on the other.  He is holding up his finger to say that you have to choose one.  That being said, I agree about your judgment on the artistic value of the card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 18, 2016, 04:41:14 pm
I have to agree with all of your choices so far in Group X, other than I think there were a few in groups Y and Z that are better than these.

Butcher - This guy has always been really creepy to me.  I wouldn't want that man, or whatever it is, anywhere near my meat.  It looks like he escaped from a lunatic asylum where they did a lobotomy.  And who cuts up their meat with the feet of the animal hanging on a wall and the other end on a table?

Gladiator - Ditto

Smithy - JSH nailed that one quite well.  The guy holding the axehead must be crazy to hold that thing while the other guy pounds on it.  In fact, if he trying to hammer a wedge into the handle in the head of the axe, the wedge doesn't look like it is being put in straight, almost guaranteeing that the axe is going slip in some way.

Mandarin - I have never liked that one.  His face is very misshapen.  His mustache is very long on one side.  Why is he unrolling scrolls all over the ground?  What does that have to do with Mandarin?  Dictionary.com has several definitions, including:
1. (in the Chinese Empire) a member of any of the nine ranks of public officials, each distinguished by a particular kind of button worn on the cap;
6. an influential or powerful government official or bureaucrat;
7. a member of an elite or powerful group or class, as in intellectual or cultural milieus
The other 4 definitions don't apply at all, but this picture doesn't seem to fit any of the definitions.

Envoy - That has to be the most unflattering facial expression in Dominion.  This guy is the last person I would want representing me as an Envoy for my country or government.  And why is his letter or scroll wrapped around the handle of a baseball bat?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 07:56:28 pm
#343 - Guide

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e1/Guide.jpg/200px-Guide.jpg)

I didn't mind the art so much, but she's supposed to be a guide not leading a special ops unit.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 07:58:59 pm
#342 - Ritual

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d1/Ritual.jpg/320px-Ritual.jpg)

None of my daughters liked this art whereas I had it as middle of the road. They thought it was too video game-y with the glowing green rocks not only in the pit but also being carried by the people.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 08:01:07 pm
#341 - Smugglers

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/05/Smugglers.jpg/200px-Smugglers.jpg)

Perhaps another low rating due to unmet expectations. It's hard to tell that there is any smuggling going on here. Just a couple of guys getting a drink. Nothing going on here. I didn't realize that was a boat coming up in the background until just now.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: wachsmuth on June 18, 2016, 08:54:34 pm
I didn't even know there were two people on Count's art...
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 18, 2016, 09:10:27 pm
I'm starting to disagree a lot with your rankings :P. The last few cards you ranked DEFIENETLY deserve to be way higher. Where is Junk Dealer? That art is miles worse than anything in group X. IMO you should judge more about the quality of the art itself.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 18, 2016, 09:36:20 pm
Ritual is fine, what's wrong with Ritual? They can't be all the best video game reenactment ever.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 18, 2016, 10:29:16 pm
I'm starting to disagree a lot with your rankings :P. The last few cards you ranked DEFIENETLY deserve to be way higher. Where is Junk Dealer? That art is miles worse than anything in group X. IMO you should judge more about the quality of the art itself.

Have you seen the hi-res version of Junk Dealer?  It is so much better than I thought from just looking at the card.
http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/337/ (http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/337/)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 18, 2016, 10:30:36 pm
I hate crappy 3D art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 18, 2016, 11:35:01 pm
I'm starting to disagree a lot with your rankings :P. The last few cards you ranked DEFIENETLY deserve to be way higher. Where is Junk Dealer? That art is miles worse than anything in group X. IMO you should judge more about the quality of the art itself.

I would like to take this opportunity to post some notes about the process as I view it now that we are a few groups in.

The 'your' in the rankings is a plural you. I've found that if anyone one of the four of us really liked or disliked a piece of art comparative to the others, it would seriously skew the group it ended up in. That was somewhat by design. However, as we are going through the groups, I can't sometimes get coherent comments about why a piece of art was liked more or less than other pieces of art. It's possible as we ground through all these cards rating them one by one, that not all of the art got equal consideration or that view of one card might be affected by what other cards are near it alphabetically.

I see that the cards that are at the bottom of any particular group are usually the worst cards in that group and that as we approach the end of the group, we are getting some cards that seem to have been skewed by one or two unusual evaluations. There are some things, in retrospect, I could have done to mitigate the issue. However, it would have been time consuming. I currently am having a hard enough time getting my daughters together to comment and put in order 15 cards at a time. I don't think they would have been willing to spend more time on it for better rankings. Also, now that I have ranked some of the cards on my method, I feel I ought to see it through without changing the rules in the middle.

Disagreement is a natural result of this type of effort. I can tell you from what I have seen about where cards are falling in the groups, it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on June 19, 2016, 01:32:37 am
I'm starting to disagree a lot with your rankings :P. The last few cards you ranked DEFIENETLY deserve to be way higher. Where is Junk Dealer? That art is miles worse than anything in group X. IMO you should judge more about the quality of the art itself.

Have you seen the hi-res version of Junk Dealer?  It is so much better than I thought from just looking at the card.
http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/337/ (http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/337/)

Why the hell are they building a tesseract on the Rebuild art?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 10:48:28 am
#340 - Plan

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2c/Plan.jpg/320px-Plan.jpg)

It's weird that just his face is all washed out. The other people in the picture seem to have a normal level of detail. It looks like his hair is made of the same material as the tent.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 10:50:21 am
#339 - Develop

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Develop.jpg/200px-Develop.jpg)

Why is this guy talking to a statue? I don't think I would build out in that wasteland. The shapes of the sand dunes are funky and make the picture look weird.

The shape of the tower is questionable at best but I won't go into any further detail.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 10:54:22 am
#338 - Salvager

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/89/Salvager.jpg/200px-Salvager.jpg)

My girls thought that it was Botox boy returning from Pearl Diver but with more of a potato face.

Dissenting opinion: I like this art. I rated it slightly above average. I like the underwater feel. I think it got a raw deal being this low.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 10:57:46 am
#337 - Farmers' Market

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/37/Farmers%27_Market.jpg/200px-Farmers%27_Market.jpg)

Perhaps the market is just opening since it isn't very busy. We have a pile of white rocks there and what is the red stuff in the corner? The way the landscape slants is weird.

Dissenting opinion: This is another card rated low by all three girls but that I thought was much better than group X. Besides the slant I like this art.

That is the end of group X.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: pacovf on June 19, 2016, 12:46:48 pm
The shape of the tower is questionable at best but I won't go into any further detail.

EDIT: Man, just remembered that jamsamfam's daughters might read this. I deleted the link to a certain thread discussing this very thing.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Willvon on June 19, 2016, 04:39:03 pm
I'm starting to disagree a lot with your rankings :P. The last few cards you ranked DEFIENETLY deserve to be way higher. Where is Junk Dealer? That art is miles worse than anything in group X. IMO you should judge more about the quality of the art itself.

I would like to take this opportunity to post some notes about the process as I view it now that we are a few groups in.

The 'your' in the rankings is a plural you. I've found that if anyone one of the four of us really liked or disliked a piece of art comparative to the others, it would seriously skew the group it ended up in. That was somewhat by design. However, as we are going through the groups, I can't sometimes get coherent comments about why a piece of art was liked more or less than other pieces of art. It's possible as we ground through all these cards rating them one by one, that not all of the art got equal consideration or that view of one card might be affected by what other cards are near it alphabetically.

I see that the cards that are at the bottom of any particular group are usually the worst cards in that group and that as we approach the end of the group, we are getting some cards that seem to have been skewed by one or two unusual evaluations. There are some things, in retrospect, I could have done to mitigate the issue. However, it would have been time consuming. I currently am having a hard enough time getting my daughters together to comment and put in order 15 cards at a time. I don't think they would have been willing to spend more time on it for better rankings. Also, now that I have ranked some of the cards on my method, I feel I ought to see it through without changing the rules in the middle.

Disagreement is a natural result of this type of effort. I can tell you from what I have seen about where cards are falling in the groups, it's going to get worse before it gets better.

As I have mentioned in earlier posts, I personally do not agree with all of the card choices. The fact is though that as jamfamsam states: "Disagreement is a natural result of this type of effort." This thread was not presented as being the judgment of professional art critics. It is a man and 3 teenage daughters spending some time together making a list of which card's art they like and which they don't. To take over 350 images and put them in some kind of order of preference is quite a daunting task. Any of us who are no longer teenagers certainly realize that our tastes as adults differ from when we were teens. On top of that, the fact that people will pay thousands of dollars for artworks that many others wouldn't even want to hang in their bathrooms shows how greatly opinions on art can differ. These girls are taking time from other things that I am sure they would prefer to be doing. So if some of their decisions seem haphazard to us, I think it is perfectly understandable.

All of us have the right to our opinions, and if you read this forum at all, we have no problem expressing them. In this case, though, I don't believe these girls have the same vested interest in this game as most of us do. They are just doing this for fun.  I would imagine that for most of us, our own opinions of the art have been affected to some extent by our view of the functionality of the card from having played it many times.  For example, I know my view of the art of Fairgrounds is definitely influenced by my love for the card in the game.

We therefore should all feel free to express our opinions, but it should be done with civility, perhaps a sense of humor, but never attacking.  As mentioned above there is a long way to go and the likelihood of disagreement is going to become much greater.  If you really don't like the criteria by which they are judging these cards, then start your own thread and see how many people agree with your opinions. Otherwise, let's just be sure to keep it light and fun.  If we don't, this could quickly be derailed. I personally would like to see this go all the way to number 1. 

Thank you jamfamsam and your daughters for taking time to do this and providing an opportunity for interesting discussion.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on June 19, 2016, 08:59:42 pm
I'm starting to disagree a lot with your rankings :P. The last few cards you ranked DEFIENETLY deserve to be way higher. Where is Junk Dealer? That art is miles worse than anything in group X. IMO you should judge more about the quality of the art itself.

Have you seen the hi-res version of Junk Dealer?  It is so much better than I thought from just looking at the card.
http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/337/ (http://www.kmistudio.com/blog/index.php/gallery/image_full/337/)
Seprix has at least half of a point. In proper resolution/contrast he looks like a random vendor in a screenshot from a video game. I wouldn't say that makes me actively dislike the art, but it does stand out in a not-entirely-positive way.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 11:07:29 pm
Thank you for your words, Willvon.

For the record, I have never felt attacked. The comment just presented me with an opportunity to reflect on the process.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 11:10:01 pm
#336 - Alms

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ac/Alms.jpg/320px-Alms.jpg)

Here comes group W, sixteen cards.

The colors are vivid, but the lines are harsh and the faces weird.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 11:11:37 pm
#335 - Cellar

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1c/Cellar.jpg/200px-Cellar.jpg)

This perspective gives the feel that we are looking at this through a crystal ball or something. There are doors going somewhere but no other cues that it's a cellar other than being a bit dark.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 19, 2016, 11:14:30 pm
#334 - Steward

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/88/Steward.jpg/200px-Steward.jpg)

This guy with the spilt-colored robe looks like the biggest spoiled brat of all time. We could never get past that.

How dare that servant present him with whatever is on that plate!!!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 19, 2016, 11:24:31 pm
I think Dr. Spoiled Brat is the Steward, overseeing the meat to make sure it is good enough for you. Otherwise, it gets... trashed.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 10:17:12 am
#332 - Festival

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ec/Festival.jpg/200px-Festival.jpg)

jsh said it all "Festival doesn't have a terrible picture, but it's not an inspiring one either. While the perspective work is better than on Council Room, somehow the elf looks too big in relation to what he's standing in front of. On the bright side, there's some nice variety in color here that keeps Festival out of the bottom four. Geez, that elf has quite the noggin. I'm not sure I'd be paying this con artist to get in to this particular festival. There's some kind of street fight going on inside, and a cop standing by to let it happen. Then again, maybe that's not so different from real life."

My girls thought it looked like Santa's village, elf and all.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 10:18:39 am
#331 - Embassy

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2f/Embassy.jpg/200px-Embassy.jpg)

The guy is looking up in the sky perhaps at an alien ship. What he doesn't realize is that the alien is standing next to him. The truth is out there.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 10:21:57 am
#331 - Gladiator/Fortune

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5d/Gladiator_Fortune.jpg/374px-Gladiator_Fortune.jpg)

I'm not exactly sure how this got separated from its two related pieces of art, but here it is in group W. Apparently we liked seeing the pink skin and chest of pickles all in the same picture. Maybe it's the advertisement for the local zoo in the background.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ben_king on June 20, 2016, 11:07:56 am
#339 - Develop

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Develop.jpg/200px-Develop.jpg)

Why is this guy talking to a statue? I don't think I would build out in that wasteland. The shapes of the sand dunes are funky and make the picture look weird.

The shape of the tower is questionable at best but I won't go into any further detail.

I'm pretty sure the guy on the left also has a transparent face.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 20, 2016, 02:31:52 pm
I'm wondering about a weighted ranking of the artists. Simply averaging out their art values will penalize artists for early failures. Matthias Carien's art has improved but his ranking will be much worse because his base game art was so bad. The weighted rank multiply each art ranking by 1 + 0.1 for each previous set with art of theirs. This way cards like Farmer's Market will be penalized more. I'm still trying to work out exactly what equation I will use.

On a side note, it would be cool to have a Qvist ranking for art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 20, 2016, 02:40:46 pm
Fun Fact: Matthias Carien's average art ranking is 354.9, or 355.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 03:02:40 pm
On a side note, it would be cool to have a Qvist ranking for art.

I intend to approach Qvist when I get nearer to the end about doing something like that. I think it would be fun.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 06:56:58 pm
#330 - Nobles

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b6/Nobles.jpg/200px-Nobles.jpg)

The straw hair is nice. What's the eavesdropper even doing in the picture? He's an unnecessary distraction. The eavesdropper guy has a goofy look on his face.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 06:58:30 pm
#329 - Farmland

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ea/Farmland.jpg/200px-Farmland.jpg)

The layout is weird with the curvy divisions in the rice patties. They're all going to be destroyed by the volcano anyway.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 20, 2016, 07:00:36 pm
#328 - Mountebank

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/89/Mountebank.jpg/200px-Mountebank.jpg)

This is another card that I thought was middle of the road. My daughters didn't like the faces but that's about all I could get out of them about this card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 20, 2016, 09:16:17 pm
Thank you for doing these rankings. While I don't care so much about the particular order the cards are in, I very much enjoy reading the commentary in this thread. Some of your art interpretations are hilarious :D

I'll just have to add something to Gladiator: The expression on his face keeps cracking me up. "Hey mum, look at me! I've become a Gladiator! Aren't you proud of me?"

I only strongly disagree with the low rank of Count. Yes, the old guy looks weird but the picture is pretty well drawn and the scene depicted makes you wonder about what mystery/history might be going on there. I also used to think Embassy looks really good until I took a close look just now.

The shape of the tower is questionable at best but I won't go into any further detail.

EDIT: Man, just remembered that jamsamfam's daughters might read this. I deleted the link to a certain thread discussing this very thing.

I don't know how old they are but I think it's safe to say they're going to find out soon enough.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: pacovf on June 21, 2016, 01:00:31 am
I don't know how old they are but I think it's safe to say they're going to find out soon enough.

jamfamsam asked very politely to keep the language appropriate for a 13 year old, and I assume he knows what's good for his daughters better than I do!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Aleimon Thimble on June 21, 2016, 03:07:51 am
Oh, you conservative Americans.  :P
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 10:25:53 am
#327 - Province

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/30/Province-new.jpg/200px-Province-new.jpg)

Only comment I got about this was 'bland'.

Dissenting opinion: I am upset that this card appears in group W. Two of the four of us rated this card 5 or better out of 7. The other 2 rated it 2 or worse bringing it way down. I think this is very nice art. It's got a good feel and does a nice job capturing a difficult concept to put into a small piece of art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 10:28:19 am
#326 - Counting House

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5d/Counting_House.jpg/200px-Counting_House.jpg)

The toothless, now retired Captain Hook is leaving the counting house where he keeps his retirement.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 10:30:26 am
#325 - Rocks

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2e/Rocks.jpg/200px-Rocks.jpg)

The skin is weird on these guys and runs together on the guy moving the rock. This is another card I would not have had this low. I like the rocks.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 06:03:35 pm
#324 - Giant

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4c/Giant.jpg/200px-Giant.jpg)

It almost looks like his dark head has been pasted onto his shiny body. The sun rays things they have going is weird as well. We liked the mountain goat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 06:05:58 pm
#323 - Merchant Ship

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/Merchant_Ship.jpg/200px-Merchant_Ship.jpg)

The ocean part looks like a net. Perhaps not enough emphasis on the ship itself. I had never even noticed the person standing there until one of my daughters pointed him/her out.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 06:07:52 pm
#322 - Fountain

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ee/Fountain.jpg/320px-Fountain.jpg)

It's awfully dark and I had to look again to notice the fountain. Perhaps they should have named this Landmark 'Stray Cat'.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 06:10:28 pm
#321 - Settlers/Bustling Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/48/Settlers_Bustling_Village.jpg/373px-Settlers_Bustling_Village.jpg)

This looks like the final scene from a play with a nice spotlight on the settlers as they approach their destination in the distance. Fade to black.

This is the end of the very mixed group W.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 21, 2016, 06:22:40 pm
Settlers/Bustling Village's picture is beautiful. What the heck? How did it end up this low?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 21, 2016, 06:40:13 pm
Group W was a disaster.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 21, 2016, 06:48:51 pm
More like Group Whiff.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on June 21, 2016, 07:32:29 pm
Settlers/Bustling Village's picture is beautiful. What the heck? How did it end up this low?
Jessi J isn't doing as well as she should. Fairgrounds and Settlers/Bustling Village  randomizer are fantastic. It doesn't seem like the kids are rating her very well.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on June 21, 2016, 07:40:53 pm
From what I've seen so far, I disagree with a lot of these art rankings.  But I think the problem might not be in the rankings, but in my own perspective: I think most of the art is above average.

This view is perhaps colored by the fact that I really like Dominion.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 21, 2016, 07:54:42 pm
This view is perhaps colored by the fact that I really like Dominion.

This surprises me. Most people on this forum dislike Dominion.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on June 22, 2016, 09:40:02 am
This view is perhaps colored by the fact that I really like Dominion.
This surprises me. Most people on this forum dislike Dominion.

This may be the only game forum I've ever encountered whose average user will admit to liking the game.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 22, 2016, 10:16:33 am
#320 - Soldier

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Soldier.jpg/200px-Soldier.jpg)

Here we go with group V 14 cards.

We close out the Peasant line early. As with the entire line, the eyes are weird. My daughters didn't like the gray theme although I think I get what the artist is trying to do there. Everything is very square.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 22, 2016, 10:18:04 am
#319 - Dame Molly

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/10/Dame_Molly.jpg/200px-Dame_Molly.jpg)

The apocalyptic sky is very strange. The proportions are very strange including the sword that gets bigger at the point. She seems to be running away from the battle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 22, 2016, 10:21:19 am
#318 - Embargo

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fb/Embargo.jpg/200px-Embargo.jpg)

Apparently they are putting an embargo on blueberries.

jsh already said about anything else we might say "Ghost Ship isn't the only card in Seaside with an undead theme. Look at that rotten haze over the sea and tell me this embargo wasn't keeping people out for their own safety. The world of Dominion is a terrifying one sometimes."
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 22, 2016, 10:28:32 am
#318 - Embargo

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fb/Embargo.jpg/200px-Embargo.jpg)

Apparently they are putting an embargo on blueberries.

jsh already said about anything else we might say "Ghost Ship isn't the only card in Seaside with an undead theme. Look at that rotten haze over the sea and tell me this embargo wasn't keeping people out for their own safety. The world of Dominion is a terrifying one sometimes."
Nooooo! I nead to change my avatar...
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 22, 2016, 06:55:53 pm
#317 - Remodel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2e/Remodel.jpg/200px-Remodel.jpg)

The light is a little funky and a pencil with no lead. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 22, 2016, 06:57:17 pm
#316 - Engineer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ab/Engineer.jpg/200px-Engineer.jpg)

The shading in this picture is inconsistent and strange. Man Hands.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 22, 2016, 06:59:45 pm
#315 - Catapult

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/25/Catapult.jpg/200px-Catapult.jpg)

We can't tell if those are clouds above the green mountains or snow covered peaks on top of or behind the green mountains. If the latter, the transition is very stark. The catapult is nice.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on June 22, 2016, 08:05:04 pm
We can't tell if those are clouds above the green mountains or snow covered peaks on top of or behind the green mountains. If the latter, the transition is very stark.

Winter is coming.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 09:47:33 am
#314 - Dame Josephine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Dame_Josephine.jpg/200px-Dame_Josephine.jpg)

Her beauty mark is leaking. What's with the pool of blood? I thought Donald said no gore. Oh, it's a banner.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 09:49:18 am
#313 - Moneylender

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/70/Moneylender.jpg/200px-Moneylender.jpg)

Something is off with the shadows and that feather is way too white for the lighting. A face only a mother could love.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 09:51:50 am
#312 - Great Hall

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/95/Great_Hall.jpg/200px-Great_Hall.jpg)

I'm not sure Great Hall deserves to be this high on the list. It looks more like Haunted Great Hall, +1 Card, +1 Action, each other player with 5 or more cards in hand puts one on top of their deck. It's a lot of green and a little blurry.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 09:53:43 am
#311 - Black Market

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fa/Black_Market.jpg/200px-Black_Market.jpg)

Why the long face? My daughters said it is ghostly.

I really like the feel of this card. It captures the shadiness of the black market and the type of creepy people you would expect to find peddling their wares.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 23, 2016, 10:04:55 am
#311 - Black Market

I really like the feel of this card. It captures the shadiness of the black market and the type of tin people you would expect to find peddling their wares.

FTFY
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 11:25:50 am
#311 - Black Market

I really like the feel of this card. It captures the shadiness of the black market and the type of tin people you would expect to find peddling their wares.

FTFY

I do feel some obligation to present my daughters' comments even if I don't agree with them.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 23, 2016, 11:33:57 am
#311 - Black Market

I really like the feel of this card. It captures the shadiness of the black market and the type of tin people you would expect to find peddling their wares.

FTFY

I do feel some obligation to present my daughters' comments even if I don't agree with them.

And that's just fine. Children have a lot of interesting things to say.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 23, 2016, 11:44:45 am
I don't get how Ritual got rated so low because it looked like a video game, but Junk Dealer still hasn't turned up?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 11:48:17 am
It's still going to get worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 08:47:52 pm
#310 - Oracle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/97/Oracle.jpg/200px-Oracle.jpg)

The leg of the tub makes it look like her leg is bent funny. That scarf is really long.

I actually like this art as well.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 08:49:53 pm
#309 - Patrician/Emporium

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0b/Patrician_Emporium.jpg/376px-Patrician_Emporium.jpg)

What is everyone looking at? Those clouds are weird. We have either leaves falling out of nowhere or a bunch of deformed birds falling out of the sky.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 08:52:15 pm
#308 - Merchant Guild

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/af/Merchant_Guild.jpg/200px-Merchant_Guild.jpg)

There is way too much red going on here. That's a nice xylophone he's wearing on his head, some kind of hazing ritual.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 08:54:50 pm
#307 - Rabble

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f1/Rabble.jpg/200px-Rabble.jpg)

More weirdness with hand proportions here. Normally the mob would be going after the vampire woman in the back, but she has somehow found a way to mingle. The lady in the bottom left is apparently having a heart attack from all the excitement.

Edit: This was the end of group V.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on June 23, 2016, 09:03:23 pm
#314 - Dame Josephine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Dame_Josephine.jpg/200px-Dame_Josephine.jpg)

Her beauty mark is leaking. What's with the pool of blood? I thought Donald said no gore. Oh, it's a banner.

Where did Donald say that?

Because, you know, Conquest.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 23, 2016, 11:18:56 pm
#314 - Dame Josephine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Dame_Josephine.jpg/200px-Dame_Josephine.jpg)

Her beauty mark is leaking. What's with the pool of blood? I thought Donald said no gore. Oh, it's a banner.

Where did Donald say that?

Because, you know, Conquest.

Reply #1989 in Interview with Donald X. "Treasures often say "no people" because some of the Prosperity ones showed people and I didn't like that as much. A few times I've pointed out things not to do like "no New World crops" or "no gore." Sometimes I've noted the frame color or that something is an attack; I stopped doing that eventually but probably should have kept it up. In rare cases there has been something special to communicate, like the Ruins being ruined versions of things, or the Hermit/Madman connection."
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 24, 2016, 07:08:15 am
#309 - Patrician/Emporium

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0b/Patrician_Emporium.jpg/376px-Patrician_Emporium.jpg)

What is everyone looking at? Those clouds are weird. We have either leaves falling out of nowhere or a bunch of deformed birds falling out of the sky.

What the shackles? This is a really well drawn picture! The clouds look like clouds and the leaves look like leaves.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 12:27:38 pm
As was stated previously in this thread, Dominion contains a lot of good art. I did a little averaging this morning and this is what I found.

Based on our scale of 1 to 7 (1 being worst), the average for group Z was 2.4. The average for group W was 3.3, nearly 1 point difference.

Average in group T was 3.7, group Q 3.9, and group N 4.1. So the difference between Z and W is greater than the difference between W and N. As we move into the large group of pretty good art, the slight change in a single vote could move a card several groups up or down. There is going to be a lot of head scratching in the next 200 cards or so. Teenage preference is going to weigh heavily into where any card ranks.

By the way, the average of all cards was 4.2 which is very close to the center of the 1 to 7 scale.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 12:32:08 pm
#306 - Donate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Donate.jpg/320px-Donate.jpg)

This is the start of group U, 15 cards.

This looks more like he is putting in his ante at a gambling table. He could probably do with a little extra fiber in his diet. The hair dominates the picture.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 12:33:38 pm
#305 - Tax

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9d/Tax.jpg/320px-Tax.jpg)

These soldiers have been busy. After they finished guarding the lady salting the earth, they are back around shaking people down for taxes. Everything seems squarish.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on June 24, 2016, 12:34:28 pm
#306 - Donate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Donate.jpg/320px-Donate.jpg)

This looks more like he is putting in his ante at a gambling table. He could probably do with a little extra fiber in his diet. The hair dominates the picture.

That's surely a she...?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 12:35:28 pm
#304 - Possession

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3b/Possession.jpg/200px-Possession.jpg)

Can't figure out the gender of the main character in this picture but he/she has run into the closed sliding glass door a few times too many. Those are some creepy fingernails.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 12:37:01 pm
#306 - Donate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Donate.jpg/320px-Donate.jpg)

This looks more like he is putting in his ante at a gambling table. He could probably do with a little extra fiber in his diet. The hair dominates the picture.

That's surely a she...?

I guess we called it like we saw it. On 2nd look, it could be either.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 24, 2016, 12:38:53 pm
#306 - Donate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Donate.jpg/320px-Donate.jpg)

This looks more like he is putting in his ante at a gambling table. He could probably do with a little extra fiber in his diet. The hair dominates the picture.

That's surely a she...?

That looks more like an 18th century wig than a she to me. But possible
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: singletee on June 24, 2016, 12:41:46 pm
#306 - Donate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Donate.jpg/320px-Donate.jpg)

This looks more like he is putting in his ante at a gambling table. He could probably do with a little extra fiber in his diet. The hair dominates the picture.

That's surely a she...?

That looks more like an 18th century wig than a she to me. But possible

I hadn't looked closely until now; I'd thought it was a turban.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 24, 2016, 01:09:30 pm
We could just say that's a woman and boost the diversity numbers. I think it's a woman anyways. Women could own property in the Roman times and sometimes did. Heck, even former slaves could own property; they just couldn't run for office. Their children could.

*edits edits everywhere! I'm trying to remove comma splices from all of my writing.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 08:40:48 pm
#303 - Conspirator

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Conspirator.jpg/200px-Conspirator.jpg)

Nice job with the feel of the art. The one guy has a serious beak for a nose and the hands are weird. One daughter thought these looked like the guy from the opening scene of Aladdin.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 08:43:24 pm
#302 - Doctor

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b2/Doctor.jpg/200px-Doctor.jpg)

Doctor, doctor, give me the news....

I know you're sick, but let me autograph this ball for you.

This guy has the worst beard in all of Dominiondom. The scene is tilted funny and the doctor got all he wanted for Christmas, his two front teeth. Too bad those are his only teeth.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 24, 2016, 08:45:41 pm
#301 - Sea Hag

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8d/Sea_Hag.jpg/200px-Sea_Hag.jpg)

She looks like a cross between Fiona as an ogre and Meredith from Brave. She looks about how a sea hag ought to look.

For some reason the moon bothers me a little.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on June 24, 2016, 10:21:16 pm
#302 - Doctor

Doctor, doctor, give me the news....

I know you're sick, but let me autograph this ball for you.

This guy has the worst beard in all of Dominiondom. The scene is tilted funny and the doctor got all he wanted for Christmas, his two front teeth. Too bad those are his only teeth.
That dutch angle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 11:01:54 am
#300 - Copper

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4b/Copper-new.jpg/200px-Copper-new.jpg)

Eh.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 11:03:09 am
#299 - Stash

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/23/Stash.jpg/200px-Stash.jpg)

Nothing wrong with a bag of coins. We were thinking a stash probably ought to be hidden under a floorboard or in the fake bottom of a drawer or something.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 11:05:47 am
#298 - Wild Hunt

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/48/Wild_Hunt.jpg/200px-Wild_Hunt.jpg)

The art is pretty cool but we couldn't quite figure out the choice of the ghost hunters flying over the tops of the trees. Ghost hunt?

The moon reminds me of the one from Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LostPhoenix on June 25, 2016, 11:16:55 am
The art is pretty cool but we couldn't quite figure out the choice of the ghost hunters flying over the tops of the trees. Ghost hunt?

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt:
The Wild Hunt is a European folk myth involving a ghostly or supernatural group of huntsmen passing in wild pursuit.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 11:23:46 am
OK. Then we dropped the ball on this one.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 06:18:27 pm
#297 - Emporium

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fe/Emporium.jpg/200px-Emporium.jpg)

All alone it's hard to tell what this is.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 06:21:35 pm
#296 - Swamp Hag

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/db/Swamp_Hag.jpg/200px-Swamp_Hag.jpg)

This is another card, like Bridge Troll, that looks pretty good when enlarged.

The first time I saw it, I wondered what the deal was with the floating head. The clothing blends in with the background. The bird looks like a big blur and I can't tell what she's holding in her hand. In fact I still look at it and wonder what the deal is with the floating head.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 25, 2016, 06:24:09 pm
#295 - Necropolis

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/69/Necropolis.jpg/200px-Necropolis.jpg)

A nice depiction.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LaLight on June 25, 2016, 06:38:12 pm
Maaaaan I SO LOVE the art on Necropolis! It tears my heart apart to see it in group U
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on June 25, 2016, 11:48:45 pm
#297 - Emporium

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fe/Emporium.jpg/200px-Emporium.jpg)

All alone it's hard to tell what this is.
The thing that really draws the eye in this art is the little arch in the building on the left.  I think it's because the roofs of the buildings make a bold line pointing directly at the arch.  The composition of this art leaves something to be desired, since I think the true focus is supposed to be the people standing under the thing that looks like a giant beast's mouth.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 26, 2016, 10:24:49 am
#294 - Chapel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/29/Chapel.jpg/200px-Chapel.jpg)

I don't know why two of my daughters rated this so low. It is a little dark but I think the art is great.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 26, 2016, 10:26:13 am
#293 - Settlers

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/14/Settlers.jpg/200px-Settlers.jpg)

Once again a little dark and some of the features are obscured, otherwise quite nice.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 26, 2016, 10:27:49 am
#292 - Encampment

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4e/Encampment.jpg/200px-Encampment.jpg)

The super-skinny guard is a little odd. Another one that is a little dark. We thought the eyeball shields were interesting.

That's the end of group U.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 26, 2016, 11:26:34 am
#294 - Chapel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/29/Chapel.jpg/200px-Chapel.jpg)

I don't know why two of my daughters rated this so low. It is a little dark but I think the art is great.

The chalice looks a little fake if you look closely, but besides that.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 26, 2016, 07:24:35 pm
#291 - Baron

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/73/Baron.jpg/200px-Baron.jpg)

This is the start of group T, 17 cards.

The most interesting man in the world is past his prime. He's looking a little gray and, the most ironclad proof, instead of having a piece of eye candy on each arm, the two women are just whispering behind his back.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 26, 2016, 07:25:22 pm
#290 - Remake

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2b/Remake.jpg/200px-Remake.jpg)

Why does it look like everything is on fire in this picture?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 26, 2016, 07:27:51 pm
#289 - Prince

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ea/Prince.jpg/200px-Prince.jpg)

My daughters wanted to know which was the prince. I always assumed the younger guy, but the current crown prince of England isn't so young. Maybe it's the old guy.

Whoever it is, he isn't going very far with a chocolate bar as the door for the palace.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LostPhoenix on June 26, 2016, 08:07:46 pm
For a long time I never noticed the trees and mountain in the background of remake.

Other than to add to the "Intrigue" theme, I don't get the point of adding the whispering women behind the baron.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on June 27, 2016, 02:25:49 am
For a long time I never noticed the trees and mountain in the background of remake.

Other than to add to the "Intrigue" theme, I don't get the point of adding the whispering women behind the baron.

Yeah, but I for one think it's great that they tried to link so many of Intrigue's card arts with the set flavour. It gives a very distinct feeling to its cards.
Cornucopia does it to some extent as well, Prosperity doesn't even try (but it would have been harder), Dark Ages does it pretty well. Seaside, well, you'd have to try hard not to depict the sea on most cards there.

I think Chapel's art benefits from its role in the game. I also love it, but from an outsider's perspective, I understand how it could be meh. But it's iconic, and fits well with the card's effect, and one ends up loving it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 27, 2016, 11:38:59 am
#288 - Princess

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Princess.jpg/200px-Princess.jpg)

I never noticed the bird before. She really ought to be riding side saddle and I'm not sure how that small neck supports the head. My girls thought her hair looked like it was about to strangle her.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 27, 2016, 11:41:04 am
#287 - Quarry

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/65/Quarry.jpg/200px-Quarry.jpg)

This is a government quarry. Not a worker to be seen. How are they going to get the rocks out of the quarry with that wheelbarrow?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 27, 2016, 11:46:12 am
#286 - Pawn

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0f/Pawn.jpg/200px-Pawn.jpg)

What happened to Aragorn's hands? They are tiny.

The previous discussion about him being constipated made me laugh. I can never un-see that now.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: mail-mi on June 27, 2016, 12:14:58 pm
#286 - Pawn

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0f/Pawn.jpg/200px-Pawn.jpg)

What happened to Aragorn's hands? They are tiny.

The previous discussion about him being constipated made me laugh. I can never un-see that now.
:(
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 27, 2016, 03:07:01 pm
#288 - Princess

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Princess.jpg/200px-Princess.jpg)

I never noticed the bird before. She really ought to be riding side saddle and I'm not sure how that small neck supports the head. My girls thought her hair looked like it was about to strangle her.

I also never realized the black thing was a bird but for some reason thought she was carrying a lance. I know, makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 27, 2016, 07:16:36 pm
#285 - City

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/30/City.jpg/200px-City.jpg)

The gold stones are an interesting choice.

We are now approximately 1/4 of the way through all the cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 27, 2016, 07:18:10 pm
#284 - Survivors

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Survivors.jpg/200px-Survivors.jpg)

The baby Lord Voldemort survives this catastrophe in the arms of a faceless woman.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 27, 2016, 07:20:26 pm
#283 - Caravan

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Caravan.jpg/200px-Caravan.jpg)

Not sure if that is a rock formation or a crumbling tower. My daughters that it was weird that you could see the ocean.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on June 28, 2016, 05:27:31 am
#286 - Pawn

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0f/Pawn.jpg/200px-Pawn.jpg)

What happened to Aragorn's hands? They are tiny.

Look at those hands. Are they small hands? And do you imply that if the hands are small, something else must be small? I guarantee you, there's no problem. I guarantee you.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 28, 2016, 08:14:10 am
#286 - Pawn

What happened to Aragorn's hands? They are tiny.

Look at those hands. Are they small hands? And do you imply that if the hands are small, something else must be small? I guarantee you, there's no problem. I guarantee you.

That's just what a person with small hands would say.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 10:54:18 am
#282 - Pirate Ship

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Pirate_Ship.jpg/200px-Pirate_Ship.jpg)

What self-respecting pirate is going to join a ship with pink sails?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 10:55:41 am
#281 - Forum

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/15/Forum.jpg/200px-Forum.jpg)

Good art but a little bit too much of the same color.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 10:57:18 am
#280 - Spoils

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9f/Spoils.jpg/200px-Spoils.jpg)

This is the 100th card so far.

The pitcher is weird. Look! There's the masterpiece candlestick. They must have left a fake on the Masterpiece card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 10:59:58 am
#279 - Enchantress

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/bb/Enchantress.jpg/200px-Enchantress.jpg)

Not sure this card belongs here. One of my daughters rated this 1 out of 7. The rest of us 4 or higher.

In such a foggy locale we wonder where she got the sun flowers.

Why the pig? I love it but I wonder why it's there.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on June 28, 2016, 11:44:31 am
#279 - Enchantress

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/bb/Enchantress.jpg/200px-Enchantress.jpg)

Not sure this card belongs here. One of my daughters rated this 1 out of 7. The rest of us 4 or higher.

In such a foggy locale we wonder where she got the sun flowers.

Why the pig? I love it but I wonder why it's there.

It's a reference to Homer's Circe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circe), who turned Odysseus' companions into pigs. :)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 28, 2016, 12:03:28 pm
Those last 3 ranks ngs really tick me off. Junk Dealer is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse then all of the last 25 cards. Forum is better than baker as well.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AJD on June 28, 2016, 02:33:32 pm
#279 - Enchantress

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/bb/Enchantress.jpg/200px-Enchantress.jpg)

Not sure this card belongs here. One of my daughters rated this 1 out of 7. The rest of us 4 or higher.

In such a foggy locale we wonder where she got the sun flowers.

Why the pig? I love it but I wonder why it's there.

It's a reference to Homer's Circe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circe), who turned Odysseus' companions into pigs. :)

And, indeed, Enchantress's effect can be interpreted as turning your Action cards into pigs.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AJD on June 28, 2016, 02:34:03 pm
#283 - Caravan

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Caravan.jpg/200px-Caravan.jpg)

Not sure if that is a rock formation or a crumbling tower. My daughters that it was weird that you could see the ocean.

Of course you can see the ocean. Otherwise, this could scarcely be a Seaside card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 06:33:42 pm
#278 - Poor House

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d6/Poor_House.jpg/200px-Poor_House.jpg)

Very brown.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 06:34:30 pm
#277 - Catacombs

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cd/Catacombs.jpg/200px-Catacombs.jpg)

We were kind of hoping for some skulls in the walls.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 06:36:03 pm
#276 - Training

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/99/Training.jpg/320px-Training.jpg)

The hair color of these guys stands out too much. The skyline reminds me of the movie set thing at Disney's California Adventure park.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 28, 2016, 06:37:45 pm
#275 - Delve

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9d/Delve.jpg/320px-Delve.jpg)

Let the outrage of Junk Dealer not appearing yet continue.

I liked this art. My girls weren't fond of the predominance of gray.

That is the end of group T. It won't be long before Junk Dealer shows up.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 28, 2016, 06:43:05 pm
Apparently crappy 3D art is better than Fairgrounds.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on June 28, 2016, 07:48:31 pm
This thread convinced me that Qvist needs to start making community-approved art ratings.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 28, 2016, 11:47:04 pm
This thread convinced me that Qvist needs to start making community-approved art ratings.

With weighted and unweighted results. Jsh, jamfamsam, and others who have delved into the art ratings business should be the "pros" while the rest of us just get counted like normal
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on June 29, 2016, 05:17:58 am
This thread convinced me that Qvist needs to start making community-approved art ratings.

With weighted and unweighted results. Jsh, jamfamsam, and others who have delved into the art ratings business should be the "pros" while the rest of us just get counted like normal
Not really, by that logic anyone who votes will be a pro. I don't think it's right to have a weighted ranking for this.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jsh357 on June 29, 2016, 08:02:56 am
This thread convinced me that Qvist needs to start making community-approved art ratings.

With weighted and unweighted results. Jsh, jamfamsam, and others who have delved into the art ratings business should be the "pros" while the rest of us just get counted like normal
Not really, by that logic anyone who votes will be a pro. I don't think it's right to have a weighted ranking for this.

Too bad your opinion on this has less weight than my own.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 29, 2016, 11:26:03 am
#274 - Jack of All Trades

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/38/Jack_of_all_Trades.jpg/200px-Jack_of_all_Trades.jpg)

This is the start of group S, 12 cards.

The pile of rocks/half wall in the middle of nowhere is a little odd. And Will, nice hat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 29, 2016, 11:27:36 am
#273 - Dame Anna

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ad/Dame_Anna.jpg/200px-Dame_Anna.jpg)

This is one of the cheesy portraits you'd expect to find in the home of a noble. There's some very nice hedge work there.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 29, 2016, 11:31:00 am
#272 - Junk Dealer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c2/Junk_Dealer.jpg/200px-Junk_Dealer.jpg)

Here it is finally. One of my daughters rated this 6 out of 7 which raised it out of the depths it otherwise may have had.

This guy looks like he's been smoking something or perhaps had a few too many drinks. He does seem to look like what you'd expect from a guy carting around a bunch of junk and trying to push it off on other people.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 29, 2016, 11:42:04 am
#273 - Dame Anna

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ad/Dame_Anna.jpg/200px-Dame_Anna.jpg)

This is one of the cheesy portraits you'd expect to find in the home of a noble. There's some very nice hedge work there.

That's like, Top 20 Dominion Art! :(
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on June 29, 2016, 11:51:51 am
Yeah, Dame Anna looks like a photograph to me.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 29, 2016, 11:55:40 am
That's like, Top 20 Dominion Art! :(

Yeah, Dame Anna looks like a photograph to me.

You guys just think she's cute, don't you.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on June 29, 2016, 12:02:59 pm
Yeah, Dame Anna looks like a photograph to me.

So it makes sense that it'd be ranked lower than things that look better than photographs.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 29, 2016, 12:07:01 pm
That's like, Top 20 Dominion Art! :(

Yeah, Dame Anna looks like a photograph to me.

You guys just think she's cute, don't you.

Some Dominion Cards are just Dominion Cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 29, 2016, 06:37:34 pm
#271 - Upgrade

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d3/Upgrade.jpg/200px-Upgrade.jpg)

I really like the pastels here. They really shouldn't be letting those children play up on the scaffolding.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 29, 2016, 06:39:40 pm
#270 - Bank

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/78/Bank.jpg/200px-Bank.jpg)

Welcome to the local pub. Oh, we are a bank as well. The green shadows are weird here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 29, 2016, 06:41:04 pm
#269 - Relic

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d3/Relic.jpg/200px-Relic.jpg)

This isn't Relics. The 2nd one doesn't belong. There can be only one.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on June 29, 2016, 07:05:00 pm
#273 - Dame Anna

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ad/Dame_Anna.jpg/200px-Dame_Anna.jpg)

This is one of the cheesy portraits you'd expect to find in the home of a noble. There's some very nice hedge work there.

Yeah, Dame Anna looks like a photograph to me.

Now I can't understand the image of this being a picture of someone sticking their head through the hole of one of those big roleplay picture boards.

Oh and if you had asked me before, I would have never guessed that there are two gems on Relic.

Edit: I meant I can't unsee the image. Would you believe my phone auto-corrects "unsee" to "understand"?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on June 30, 2016, 09:29:25 am
Edit: I meant I can't unsee the image. Would you believe my phone auto-corrects "unsee" to "understand"?

What has been seen cannot be understood.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on June 30, 2016, 10:13:03 am
Edit: I meant I can't unsee the image. Would you believe my phone auto-corrects "unsee" to "understand"?

What has been seen cannot be understood.

Now I'm wondering if my phone is trying to reveal to me a universal truth.

But I'm sure your quote applies to some of these Dominion cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 30, 2016, 10:58:05 am
#268 - Save

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2e/Save.jpg/320px-Save.jpg)

This is some nice art and she has a little glow about her. If we didn't have the name Save on the card, I'm not sure we would know what she is doing.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 30, 2016, 11:00:03 am
#267 - Temple

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9f/Temple.jpg/200px-Temple.jpg)

The sky is beautiful but distracting. My daughters think the temple looks more like a gazebo. The temple is leaning one way and the trees the other.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 30, 2016, 11:03:06 am
#266 - Catapult/Rocks

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/75/Catapult_Rocks.jpg/374px-Catapult_Rocks.jpg)

These aren't just regular rocks; they are explosive rocks. I don't think the bombardment of a castle by a catapult normally caused it to catch fire.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 30, 2016, 11:17:52 am
#267 - Temple

The temple is leaning one way and the trees the other.

That's just the earth's curvature playing tricks on your eyes.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Aleimon Thimble on June 30, 2016, 11:18:17 am

These aren't just regular rocks; they are explosive rocks. I don't think the bombardment of a castle by a catapult normally caused it to catch fire.

You have clearly never played Age of Empires.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on June 30, 2016, 11:27:57 am

These aren't just regular rocks; they are explosive rocks. I don't think the bombardment of a castle by a catapult normally caused it to catch fire.

You have clearly never played Age of Empires.

We've learned from AoE that literally everything will set a building on fire eventually, even a villager attacking it with a club. I guess it's just friction heat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on June 30, 2016, 11:32:14 am
(http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/pope-francis-wololo-change-color-of-clothes.jpg)

Age of Empires was the bomb. I miss it so much.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on June 30, 2016, 12:17:41 pm
Age of Empires was the bomb. I miss it so much.

Especially the Gunpowder units.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 30, 2016, 06:44:58 pm
#265 - Crumbling Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/65/Crumbling_Castle.jpg/200px-Crumbling_Castle.jpg)

Almost looks like petrified castle. There are a lot of yellow tones here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 30, 2016, 06:46:26 pm
#264 - Archive

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/26/Archive.jpg/200px-Archive.jpg)

I really like archive. Two of my daughters thought the main scroll dominated the picture too much.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on June 30, 2016, 06:48:28 pm
#263 - Wall

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/67/Wall.jpg/320px-Wall.jpg)

The gate looks like some really large wooden blinds. This could have gone in as Haunted Wall as well. It's pretty bleak. Just to the right of the gate it looks like the artist has caught a rock mid-fall.

That is the end of group S.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 01, 2016, 11:49:08 am
#262 - Saboteur

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/60/Saboteur.jpg/200px-Saboteur.jpg)

So begins group R, 13 cards.

The Michelin man strikes again! The gloves he is wearing make his hands look really long and gross and the smoke doesn't seem very natural.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 01, 2016, 11:53:22 am
#261 - Council Room

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e0/Council_Room.jpg/200px-Council_Room.jpg)

Aside from noticing the hieroglyphics on the wall for the first time, what jsh had to say on the card is more than we could have said:

"Despite what some think, Dominion is a very socially progressive game. Here we see that the Council Room has chairs of various sizes; trolls, dwarves, and men of all shapes and sizes can unite to discuss council. There's no human height privilege here. From a distance, this card looks like a chocolate bar. If you don't believe me, try looking at it for yourself. Jokes aside, perspective is the only thing that actually ruins this picture for me, but it's hard not to notice once you're aware of the issue. Boy, these terminal draw cards are unfashionable. It's almost like the artists don't want me to win."
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 01, 2016, 11:55:40 am
#260 - Estate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0d/Estate-new.jpg/200px-Estate-new.jpg)

We can't figure out what that fountain is supposed to be. Presumably what are lily pads in the fountain look more to us like giant amoebas.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 01, 2016, 09:05:36 pm
#259 - Workshop

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/50/Workshop.jpg/200px-Workshop.jpg)

Thor left his hammer on the table and Hannah Montana left her wig on the wall. Seriously, what is that wig thing on the wall?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 01, 2016, 09:06:55 pm
#258 - Diadem

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/35/Diadem.jpg/200px-Diadem.jpg)

There is a lot of orange tone in this art. What gem is that anyway?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 01, 2016, 09:11:03 pm
#257 - Secret Chamber

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b3/Secret_Chamber.jpg/200px-Secret_Chamber.jpg)

There is an awful lot of stuff going on here. We've got a guy coming in through one door, a trap door in the ceiling, a staircase going up underneath the picture of Salazar Slytherin, and a weird beast hiding in the bookshelves (one of my daughters picked that up, I had never noticed the eyes there before), and a floor made of glass or some standing water causing a reflection.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on July 02, 2016, 01:49:49 am
#258 - Diadem

picture

There is a lot of orange tone in this art. What gem is that anyway?

Probably a peridot
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 01:58:07 pm
#256 - Trash

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ef/Trash.jpg/200px-Trash.jpg)

This is a nice collection of junk. The rocks look like they are attached to the pillar.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 02:02:21 pm
#255 - Taxman

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e0/Taxman.jpg/200px-Taxman.jpg)

It's pretty cool that the artist got Telly Savalas to pose for the card art. The eyebrows are a little heavy. My daughters say this guy is on fleek but I don't know what that is.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTCn61FGL-mnqSPfXdpi10pZHeLlkV60D32x_SYjb0b_YpgDSc)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 02:04:52 pm
#254 - Bonfire

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/90/Bonfire.jpg/320px-Bonfire.jpg)

Here is the medieval Woodstock. The purple ground is groovy man. You've got the drugged up lady dancing in the background. The fire is so big that I'm pretty sure the nearby tent and banner will be bursting into flames shortly.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 09:41:40 pm
#253 - Margrave

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/06/Margrave.jpg/200px-Margrave.jpg)

Chong poses for this art. I like it but wonder why everything is tilted slightly.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 09:42:44 pm
#252 - Dungeon

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1e/Dungeon.jpg/200px-Dungeon.jpg)

This is a very roomy dungeon. Nothing but the best for my prisoners.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 09:44:13 pm
#251 - Bustling Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c6/Bustling_Village.jpg/200px-Bustling_Village.jpg)

Didn't quite capture the bustling part. First time I've seen a goose on a leash.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 02, 2016, 09:47:43 pm
#250 - Windfall

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f8/Windfall.jpg/320px-Windfall.jpg)

Snakes! Why does it have to be.... I mean....

Lava! Why does it have to be lava?

This is cool art but until I really scrutinized it I had no idea what was going on here. With the striped pants I thought it was part of a circus act and I couldn't figure out what that had to do with windfall. I see it all now, but it was confusing for a long time. I still don't get the striped pants.

That is the end of group R.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 03, 2016, 10:57:10 am
#249 - Hunting Grounds

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6a/Hunting_Grounds.jpg/200px-Hunting_Grounds.jpg)

This is the start of group Q, 12 cards.

There appear to be horns growing out of the back of the one deer. The guy in the foreground has some serious eyebrows and his right arm is much smaller than his left. I wonder why he isn't getting ready to shoot at the two animals. The hunt must be so good that he has other things to shoot at.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 03, 2016, 10:58:33 am
#248 - Swindler

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e7/Swindler.jpg/200px-Swindler.jpg)

He's got something in his eye. There also appears to be a face in the tree.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 03, 2016, 11:00:34 am
#247 - Mint

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/bc/Mint.jpg/200px-Mint.jpg)

This is a solid piece of art. We weren't sure if the log was going to be a hard enough surface to mint coins on.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 03, 2016, 05:27:43 pm
#246 - Hoard

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d1/Hoard.jpg/200px-Hoard.jpg)

This is a nice big pile of treasure.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 03, 2016, 05:29:51 pm
#245 - Gardens

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8c/Gardens.jpg/200px-Gardens.jpg)

I'm starting to think that's a peacock and not a flowering shrub.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 03, 2016, 05:31:36 pm
#244 - Treasury

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fd/Treasury.jpg/200px-Treasury.jpg)

This would be a seriously dangerous place to enter and try to remove anything from. You'd be buried under a mountain of metal and gems.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 04, 2016, 12:55:24 pm
#243 - Expand

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dc/Expand.jpg/200px-Expand.jpg)

The sky and hills are psychedelic.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 04, 2016, 12:56:26 pm
#242 - Humble Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/68/Humble_Castle.jpg/200px-Humble_Castle.jpg)

This art has a nice feel to it. My daughters think it looks more like a monastery than a castle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 04, 2016, 12:57:53 pm
#241 - Moat

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fe/Moat.jpg/200px-Moat.jpg)

With this much gray it makes the water look more like sewage. I'm sure water in a moat wasn't all that clean to begin with.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 04, 2016, 07:09:59 pm
#240 - Governor

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a2/Governor.jpg/200px-Governor.jpg)

I don't think the window is square. If my daughters knew this was supposed to be a promo to celebrate Puerto Rico, they probably would have rated it higher.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 04, 2016, 07:11:27 pm
#239 - Sprawling Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/14/Sprawling_Castle.jpg/200px-Sprawling_Castle.jpg)

This is another really yellow scene for castles. Other than that, I think it is really well done.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 04, 2016, 07:12:57 pm
#238 - Baths

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a9/Baths.jpg/320px-Baths.jpg)

The giantess gets her turn in the bath. My daughters think the woman on the left looks like Moaning Myrtle but I don't see it.

That is the end of group Q.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 12:20:26 pm
#237 - Walled Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6c/Walled_Village.jpg/200px-Walled_Village.jpg)

This is the start of group P, 14 cards.

There is a lot of Dominion art.

I certainly wouldn't want to cross that bridge. The last incline on the path leading to that bridge is killer. How could you possibly get a cart up that?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 12:22:13 pm
#236 - Treasure Map

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/61/Treasure_Map.jpg/200px-Treasure_Map.jpg)

This is the remedial treasure map. Not only does X mark the spot but, to make sure you didn't miss it, there is a big arrow pointing to it.

I have taken to calling this card Treasure Trap.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 12:25:37 pm
#235 - Orchard

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/80/Orchard.jpg/320px-Orchard.jpg)

We have the nice fairy-tale style cottage. They have their trash out to be picked up. It looks more like a hedge and a vineyard, but hey.

Whenever I post an Empires card, I get bitter because I have the set but have only played one game with it. All my Dominion players have moved.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 07:10:45 pm
#234 - Counterfeit

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/28/Counterfeit.jpg/200px-Counterfeit.jpg)

If I were counterfeiting, I would make sure all my coins were the same.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Limetime on July 05, 2016, 07:12:14 pm
#234 - Counterfeit

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/28/Counterfeit.jpg/200px-Counterfeit.jpg)

If I were counterfeiting, I would make sure all my coins were the same.
?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 07:14:14 pm
#233 - Lookout

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c6/Lookout.jpg/200px-Lookout.jpg)

It looks like this guy's legs are missing. This guy either just came on shift or he's not a very good lookout. This ship is in some serious trouble.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
#232 - Trading Post

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Trading_Post.jpg/200px-Trading_Post.jpg)

This has always been one of the most confusing pieces of art in Dominion to me and my daughters thought the same. Another set of large hands.

jsh enjoyed that: "I think this is a pretty great picture, not just because it looks nice, but since it's open to interpretation. Is the person hiding behind the tree waiting for an opportunity to steal something? Planning to trade in that sword? Admiring the view but being super-cautious about it? You can never be too safe in Dominion Land. It could be that this person's story is only a small sub-story of the overall daily routine at this trading post, and I like that. We're getting a peek at a larger world with subtle implications. Of course, it could also be that the art was submitted for another card name, but that doesn't lessen what we have here. Score another point for Intrigue having art that fits its overall theme if my interpretation is right."
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 07:20:13 pm
#234 - Counterfeit

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/28/Counterfeit.jpg/200px-Counterfeit.jpg)

If I were counterfeiting, I would make sure all my coins were the same.
?

I'm glad somebody is still paying attention.

The coins in the picture are all different. Now that I think about it, the person could be counterfeiting something other than money.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on July 05, 2016, 08:08:06 pm
Whenever I post an Empires card, I get bitter because I have the set but have only played one game with it. All my Dominion players have moved.

What aout your daughters?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 05, 2016, 08:20:26 pm
Alas, they don't play. They think I am a Dominion freak.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Burning Skull on July 06, 2016, 04:43:58 am
Alas, they don't play. They think I am a Dominion freak.

they are goddamn right
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 11:08:47 am
#231 - Raze

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d3/Raze.jpg/200px-Raze.jpg)

This guy hulk-smashes through a wall. Now he is shown tearing a piece of carpet/copper? off the wall. I think the artist missed the best moment here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 11:10:35 am
#230 - Knights

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9a/Knights.jpg/200px-Knights.jpg)

Dark knight versus Candyland knight. The dark horse looks like it has a skull and crossbones for a face. Everything is a little tall and skinny.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 11:12:09 am
#229 - Haggler

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/96/Haggler.jpg/200px-Haggler.jpg)

I think this guy has lost a finger. He is exactly the type of creepy guy who would get up in your grill in the middle of your vacation.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 11:14:10 am
#228 - Scavenger

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d9/Scavenger.jpg/200px-Scavenger.jpg)

I never noticed the bird at the top before. This guy has a great glow about him. He's got very long fingers.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on July 06, 2016, 11:25:05 am
#228 - Scavenger

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d9/Scavenger.jpg/200px-Scavenger.jpg)

I never noticed the bird at the top before. This guy has a great glow about him. He's got very long fingers.
The real question is why is there a random pot lying around on the battlefield.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 06:54:50 pm
#227 - Procession

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Procession.jpg/200px-Procession.jpg)

That is one massive dude. I like the color scheme here, it is the Dark Ages after all, but it is a little too dark. Can't tell if that is someone bowing down on the right or something else.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 06:57:00 pm
#226 - Bureaucrat

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4d/Bureaucrat.jpg/200px-Bureaucrat.jpg)

Real men wear pink. The candle looks more like a propane torch. This guy might also need a manzier.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 06:58:36 pm
#225 - Mountain Pass

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d5/Mountain_Pass.jpg/320px-Mountain_Pass.jpg)

The birds seem a little out of place. Whoever was playing hopscotch in the snow must have been carried off by a giant bird.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 06, 2016, 07:02:31 pm
#224 - Museum

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b2/Museum.jpg/320px-Museum.jpg)

The statues are all the same color except the one, and they look weirder the more I look at them.  It's a fabulous building.

That is the end of group P.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 07, 2016, 11:46:45 am
#223 - Conquest

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/08/Conquest.jpg/320px-Conquest.jpg)

This is the start of group O, 14 cards.

This is the most violent of all Dominion art with the bloody sword and blood spurting in from the right. The fire sweeping across the stone is a little curious. Perhaps they spilled a vat of oil.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 07, 2016, 11:48:53 am
#222 Duchess

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/df/Duchess.jpg/200px-Duchess.jpg)

It's a much better-looking duchy than that of the Duke. She has her arm floaties on in preparation for baby's swim lessons. Not a very cute baby.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 07, 2016, 11:50:00 am
Fairgrounds still beats over half of these cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 07, 2016, 11:51:24 am
#221 - Spice Merchant

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e2/Spice_Merchant.jpg/200px-Spice_Merchant.jpg)

He has his prosthetic chin on. I can't get past the chin. What the...?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on July 07, 2016, 03:21:06 pm
Fairgrounds still beats over half of these cards.
Fairgrounds beats every card listed so far.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 07, 2016, 11:17:58 pm
#220 - Tactician

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ed/Tactician.jpg/200px-Tactician.jpg)

Why the big head in the foreground?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 07, 2016, 11:19:38 pm
#219 - Spy

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cb/Spy.jpg/200px-Spy.jpg)

The blood-red sky is a nice touch. He looks a little like a monk but I'm sure that's all part of the disguise.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 07, 2016, 11:21:01 pm
#218 - City Quarter

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4e/City_Quarter.jpg/200px-City_Quarter.jpg)

This is a nice job with a difficult concept. I love the VP symbol on the sign.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 12:12:42 pm
#217 - Forge

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d7/Forge.jpg/200px-Forge.jpg)

I don't think the volume of red adds anything here. The sword is very strange looking and it looks like she is sewing it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 12:14:42 pm
#216 - Masquerade

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0e/Masquerade.jpg/200px-Masquerade.jpg)

This art does a nice job reflecting the mechanic of the card. In a literal interpretation, he would have to have a lot of hands and it looks like there is a pimple on one of the masks.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 12:16:24 pm
#215 - Cultist

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/18/Cultist.jpg/200px-Cultist.jpg)

This guy looks like a giant insect.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 12:18:16 pm
#214 - Scheme

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8d/Scheme.jpg/200px-Scheme.jpg)

This guy should really cough into his elbow. The other guy has a funky chin but nothing as bad as Spice Merchant.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: pedroluchini on July 08, 2016, 05:36:18 pm
#220 - Tactician

Looking at this picture again, I am reminded of the shockingly careless handling of charts by medieval people in fiction. That map must've taken months of painstaking labor to draw, and the Tactician is just casually jabbing it with a big rusty knife!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 07:12:57 pm
#213 - Storeroom

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b4/Storeroom.jpg/200px-Storeroom.jpg)

Maybe this art would go better with cellar. This storeroom is nearly bare.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 07:15:10 pm
#212 - Port

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d0/Port.jpg/200px-Port.jpg)

I think Port deserves better than this. It's a nice piece of art. None of my daughters could articulate what it was that gave the card a slightly sub-par rating.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 07:16:38 pm
#211 - Abandoned Mine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6d/Abandoned_Mine.jpg/200px-Abandoned_Mine.jpg)

Who is the idiot giving the shadow here? This is not a safe place to be. The mine was abandoned for a reason.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 08, 2016, 07:21:41 pm
#210 - Duchy

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/54/Duchy-new.jpg/200px-Duchy-new.jpg)

This is a great piece of art, probably top 10% for me. Two of my daughters rated it 3 out of 7 but none had anything worthwhile to say about why. I love it.

This is the end of group O, and a disappointing end it is too with these last three cards.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Orange on July 08, 2016, 10:13:46 pm
#264 - Archive

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/26/Archive.jpg/200px-Archive.jpg)

I really like archive. Two of my daughters thought the main scroll dominated the picture too much.

The scroll *is* the archive.  I love this card and the art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on July 08, 2016, 10:20:54 pm
#211 - Abandoned Mine

Who is the idiot giving the shadow here? This is not a safe place to be. The mine was abandoned for a reason.
Maybe because of a ghost haunting the mine which gives off a shadow without having a body. woooo
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 09, 2016, 11:57:34 am
#209 - Trash (Sign)

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c4/Trash2.jpg/200px-Trash2.jpg)

This is the start of group N, 15 cards.

This trash card is much better. We've got trashed copper, potion, treasure map, VP symbols, etc. I like the little creature as well.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 09, 2016, 11:59:06 am
#208 - Ruined Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ae/Ruined_Village.jpg/200px-Ruined_Village.jpg)

All that time they spent putting the wall around the village was wasted. The pink shading is a little strange.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 09, 2016, 12:02:56 pm
#207 - Villa

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Villa.jpg/200px-Villa.jpg)

The proportions of this building seem slightly off. Probably not the intent, but the windows look barred. Child labor was allowed back then, I guess.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 09, 2016, 12:05:15 pm
#209 - Trash (Sign)

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c4/Trash2.jpg/200px-Trash2.jpg)

This is the start of group N, 15 cards.

This trash card is much better. We've got trashed copper, potion, treasure map, VP symbols, etc. I like the little creature as well.

That little creature is the Curse thing the Witch is holding!

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/f/f3/Witch.jpg)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 09, 2016, 09:19:35 pm
#206 - Woodcutter

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d6/Woodcutter.jpg/200px-Woodcutter.jpg)

The guy on the right has something weird going on with his head. The guy on the left has a weird hat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 09, 2016, 09:20:45 pm
#205 - Platinum

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Platinum-new.jpg/200px-Platinum-new.jpg)

The runes here are interesting. I like the choice of lighting.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 09, 2016, 09:23:11 pm
#204 - Royal Blacksmith

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cb/Royal_Blacksmith.jpg/200px-Royal_Blacksmith.jpg)

Donald was right to change the name. This guy doesn't look old at all. It looks like he is wearing glasses. The angle of the whole picture doesn't line up. My girls think this is what Santa Claus probably looked like as a young man.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 01:04:06 pm
#203 - Goons

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e2/Goons.jpg/200px-Goons.jpg)

Belle's father is being pressured by two men with very sallow skin color. They should probably take some vitamins.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 01:05:23 pm
#202 - Warehouse

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6d/Warehouse.jpg/200px-Warehouse.jpg)

Those are some nice cucumbers floating in the water.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 01:07:00 pm
#201 - Baker

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b9/Baker.jpg/200px-Baker.jpg)

Yes, this art has strange proportions. She obviously doesn't have time to eat much of her bread. Some people don't like this art. I do even with all its strangeness.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 07:18:43 pm
#200 - Aqueduct

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3f/Aqueduct.jpg/320px-Aqueduct.jpg)

The water kind of looks like wrinkled cloth. Otherwise nice solid art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 07:20:19 pm
#199 - Dame Sylvia

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c3/Dame_Sylvia.jpg/200px-Dame_Sylvia.jpg)

There's too much gray here. The armor is strange looking and the horse has a weird chin. I guess we've switched from criticizing hands to chins.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 07:21:31 pm
#198 - Urchin

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/74/Urchin.jpg/200px-Urchin.jpg)

The big guy and his stone knife are really intent on stealing that boy's cabbage. Hopefully the boy knows that no cabbage is worth his life.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Donald X. on July 10, 2016, 07:36:20 pm
The big guy and his stone knife are really intent on stealing that boy's cabbage. Hopefully the boy knows that no cabbage is worth his life.
He wins that fight dude. It's in the subtle details on Mercenary.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on July 10, 2016, 07:38:58 pm
I was bothered by Urchin because it wasn't clear whether or not he was shirtless to me.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 10, 2016, 07:44:20 pm
The big guy and his stone knife are really intent on stealing that boy's cabbage. Hopefully the boy knows that no cabbage is worth his life.
He wins that fight dude. It's in the subtle details on Mercenary.

I never would have picked that up. Sure enough.

The lesson to be learned here: Never stand between a boy and his cabbage.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 10, 2016, 08:51:06 pm
The big guy and his stone knife are really intent on stealing that boy's cabbage. Hopefully the boy knows that no cabbage is worth his life.
He wins that fight dude. It's in the subtle details on Mercenary.

I never would have picked that up. Sure enough.

The lesson to be learned here: Never stand between a boy and his cabbage life.

I think that's more appropriate. It's possible that the Urchin even stole that cabbage from that guy. He looks like a Grocer.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: markusin on July 10, 2016, 09:02:13 pm
#198 - Urchin

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/74/Urchin.jpg/200px-Urchin.jpg)

The big guy and his stone knife are really intent on stealing that boy's cabbage. Hopefully the boy knows that no cabbage is worth his life.

But what do you think of the chin of Urchin.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on July 10, 2016, 09:52:41 pm
#202 - Warehouse

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6d/Warehouse.jpg/200px-Warehouse.jpg)

Those are some nice cucumbers floating in the water.
Did someone drown the Gladiator with his Fortune?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: madeofghosts on July 11, 2016, 10:30:17 am
#204 - Royal Blacksmith

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cb/Royal_Blacksmith.jpg/200px-Royal_Blacksmith.jpg)

Royal Blacksmith is the hottest guy on any Dominion card (except for maybe Sir Martin).

Yes, I made an account to say this.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 11, 2016, 11:46:33 am
#204 - Royal Blacksmith

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cb/Royal_Blacksmith.jpg/200px-Royal_Blacksmith.jpg)

Royal Blacksmith is the hottest guy on any Dominion card (except for maybe Sir Martin).

Yes, I made an account to say this.

Have you checked out the forum games (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=26.0)? There are some pretty hot individuals on there for sure.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 11, 2016, 12:05:01 pm
#197 - Ratcatcher

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1d/Ratcatcher.jpg/200px-Ratcatcher.jpg)

Radagast the Brown is maybe not so friendly to the animals as we were led to believe.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 11, 2016, 12:06:16 pm
#196 - Inn

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1f/Inn.jpg/200px-Inn.jpg)

This is a nice, rustic piece of art. I hope this Inn has another source of revenue. That road doesn't look very heavily traveled.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 11, 2016, 12:08:41 pm
#195 - Bandit Fort

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/42/Bandit_Fort.jpg/320px-Bandit_Fort.jpg)

The group of rocks in the center looks a little like a cauliflower stalk. The rocks on the left are at an interesting angle. No chin commentary here.

That is the end of group N. We have covered half the groups but not quite half the cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on July 11, 2016, 12:21:03 pm
Prediction: I think Martian Hoffman will be the top artist.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on July 11, 2016, 12:38:27 pm
#196 - Inn

This is a nice, rustic piece of art. I hope this Inn has another source of revenue. That road doesn't look very heavily traveled.
There is something about the shading and style of this art. It's so simple yet effective. I'd easily rank this in my top 10.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: tripwire on July 11, 2016, 01:25:17 pm
So far the lesson of this thread for me is: Dominion's art is not really as bad as people say it is. Artistically inconsistent? Sure. But most of the art is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: faust on July 11, 2016, 03:46:47 pm
Prediction: I think Martian Hoffman will be the top artist.

Probably due to the enhanced understanding of art the martians possess.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on July 11, 2016, 03:59:31 pm
#196 - Inn

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1f/Inn.jpg/200px-Inn.jpg)

This is a nice, rustic piece of art. I hope this Inn has another source of revenue. That road doesn't look very heavily traveled.

Actually, it does. Otherwise it would be more overgrown, one would assume.

Royal Blacksmith is the hottest guy on any Dominion card (except for maybe Sir Martin).

Yes, I made an account to say this.

And your post-to-respect ratio is already excellent. Good job!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Donald X. on July 11, 2016, 04:28:27 pm
Royal Blacksmith is the hottest guy on any Dominion card (except for maybe Sir Martin).

Yes, I made an account to say this.
Man I have to remember to link Sir Martin to this post.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 11, 2016, 07:17:26 pm
#194 - Apothecary

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/69/Apothecary.jpg/200px-Apothecary.jpg)

This is the start of group M, 16 cards.

That's a very nice street lamp he has in his shop. He probably shouldn't keep his eyes in the jar if he wants to use them.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 11, 2016, 07:19:04 pm
#193 - Talisman

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cf/Talisman.jpg/200px-Talisman.jpg)

The candles are a little funky and I'm not sure it's wise to keep that much parchment lying around an open flame.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 11, 2016, 07:20:50 pm
#192 - Loan

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/11/Loan.jpg/200px-Loan.jpg)

There is something really awkward about that handshake. The guy has some really great teeth. The clouds in the background are a little strange.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 11, 2016, 07:53:44 pm
Which guy is the Loanee?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on July 11, 2016, 08:00:00 pm
Based on his smile, I'm pretty sure the guy on the right is the loan shark.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: trivialknot on July 11, 2016, 09:27:26 pm
#192 - Loan

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/11/Loan.jpg/200px-Loan.jpg)

There is something really awkward about that handshake. The guy has some really great teeth. The clouds in the background are a little strange.
I just noticed the columns in the background, holding nothing.  They must have already been in the process of building Empires.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 11:05:26 am
#191 - Armory

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a7/Armory.jpg/200px-Armory.jpg)

This guy has a surprised look on his face like he just walked in on somebody. 'Oh, excuse me. You should have locked the door.'
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 11:09:44 am
#190 - Wishing Well

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Wishing_Well.jpg/200px-Wishing_Well.jpg)

Everything in this scene seems to be get sucked up to the sky. Why is that wood statue near the well? What is in the well?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on July 12, 2016, 11:12:24 am
The wood statue is a hooded figure
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 11:12:30 am
#189 - Sage

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/70/Sage.jpg/200px-Sage.jpg)

Maybe I should link to the Sage jokes thread. He has briefly set aside his book on the harp to study something else. The coals look like they are sitting on his back.

We have now crossed over into the 2nd half of the cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 11:13:07 am
The wood statue is a hooded figure

I thought it might be Death trying out a new color of cloak.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AJD on July 12, 2016, 01:43:21 pm
#189 - Sage

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/70/Sage.jpg/200px-Sage.jpg)

Maybe I should link to the Sage jokes thread. He has briefly set aside his book on the harp to study something else. The coals look like they are sitting on his back.

We have now crossed over into the 2nd half of the cards.

I can't rate Sage that highly because I keep thinking he looks like
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/560/media/images/62450000/jpg/_62450358_restoredfresco.jpg)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on July 12, 2016, 03:32:03 pm
You're thinking of Survivors.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 06:17:00 pm
#188 - Apprentice

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/20/Apprentice.jpg/200px-Apprentice.jpg)

My daughters thought the fiery guy in the back was the master. I thought it was some demon being summoned by the Apprentice.

If the former the Apprentice in deep. If the latter I'd hate to see the master if the apprentice can do this.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 06:20:45 pm
#187 - Death Cart

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/50/Death_Cart.jpg/200px-Death_Cart.jpg)

The only things missing from this are the guy ringing the triangle and yelling 'Bring out your dead' and the woman beating the cat against the wall.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 12, 2016, 06:22:31 pm
#186 - Wine Merchant

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b2/Wine_Merchant.jpg/200px-Wine_Merchant.jpg)

'Free wine tasting here?' says the Wine Merchant. 'Surely you jest!'
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on July 12, 2016, 08:18:57 pm
#188 - Apprentice

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/20/Apprentice.jpg/200px-Apprentice.jpg)

My daughters thought the fiery guy in the back was the master. I thought it was some demon being summoned by the Apprentice.

If the former the Apprentice in deep. If the latter I'd hate to see the master if the apprentice can do this.
It's not about the power of the demon you can summon, it's about the power of the demon you can control.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 12, 2016, 09:40:38 pm
Oh, that's a demon! I always assumed that was just some flamethrower trick the Apprentice was doing.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Limetime on July 12, 2016, 09:41:55 pm
That is the flame of the card you apprenticed
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ipofanes on July 13, 2016, 05:12:50 am

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg)


The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber.

It is obviously a Roman dodecahedron, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron) which is in line with the Roman theme of Empires. Let this be the second thing you think about.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Haddock on July 13, 2016, 06:00:10 am
#188 - Apprentice
...
My daughters thought the fiery guy in the back was the master. I thought it was some demon being summoned by the Apprentice.

If the former the Apprentice in deep. If the latter I'd hate to see the master if the apprentice can do this.
"Always two, there are..."
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 10:53:00 am
#185 - Sir Destry

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/18/Sir_Destry.jpg/200px-Sir_Destry.jpg)

Sir Destry summons a flock of birds. My daughters thought that this is a guy you wouldn't want to mess with.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 10:55:15 am
#184 - Menagerie

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/71/Menagerie.jpg/200px-Menagerie.jpg)

The trees distract too much here. Why do you put a hyena in with giraffes and a zebra? There's no way that flimsy little fence is keeping those animals in. The guy looking at the lion is about to lose his hand.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 10:56:15 am
#183 - Grand Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f5/Grand_Castle.jpg/200px-Grand_Castle.jpg)

We liked the castle but the pink sky is a little over the top.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Limetime on July 13, 2016, 10:58:35 am
#184 - Menagerie

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/71/Menagerie.jpg/200px-Menagerie.jpg)

The trees distract too much here. Why do you put a hyena in with giraffes and a zebra? There's no way that flimsy little fence is keeping those animals in. The guy looking at the lion is about to lose his hand.
I was like what tree's until I realized you were talking about menagerie.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AJD on July 13, 2016, 11:48:00 am
#183 - Grand Castle

We liked the castle but the pink sky is a little over the top.

Where else would you put the sky, I ask you.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 06:47:57 pm
#182 - Champion

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/41/Champion.jpg/200px-Champion.jpg)

I like the angle here. It's like looking up at someone who just destroyed you. The armadillo armor is a little funky and it's a bit dark.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 06:49:36 pm
#181 - Crossroads

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cd/Crossroads.jpg/200px-Crossroads.jpg)

I had never noticed there were names on the sign before. Very nice. This is a very desolate place.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 06:50:56 pm
#180 - Altar

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b3/Altar.jpg/200px-Altar.jpg)

I've always liked this art. One daughter thought it looked like the stone table from Narnia. Another thought it looked like a hot tub with the cover on and something spilled on the top. I still like it.

This is also the 200th art posting.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 13, 2016, 06:53:45 pm
#179 - Colony

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/be/Colony-new.jpg/200px-Colony-new.jpg)

If the wave is splashing on the rock, shouldn't it be splashing on other places as well?

I really love the art from the Base Cards. I think all of them deserved better than what they got.

This is the end of group M.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 13, 2016, 07:12:28 pm
Colony is like the best of the Base Art cards. It's up there with Dame Anna and Fairgrounds. So sad.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on July 13, 2016, 08:04:47 pm

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber.

It is obviously a Roman dodecahedron, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron) which is in line with the Roman theme of Empires. Let this be the second thing you think about.
Well, guess that makes me one of today's ten thousand (http://www.xkcd.com/1053).
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Jimmmmm on July 13, 2016, 08:10:01 pm

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber.

It is obviously a Roman dodecahedron, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron) which is in line with the Roman theme of Empires. Let this be the second thing you think about.
Well, guess that makes me one of today's ten thousand (http://www.xkcd.com/1053).

Aren't you in Australia?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on July 13, 2016, 09:17:28 pm

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber.

It is obviously a Roman dodecahedron, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron) which is in line with the Roman theme of Empires. Let this be the second thing you think about.
Well, guess that makes me one of today's ten thousand (http://www.xkcd.com/1053).

Aren't you in Australia?
True. Given that the Australian birth rate is about 7% (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=birth+rate+of+australia+%2F+birth+rate+of+usa) that of the US, I guess I'm actually one of today's seven hundred? That said, there are plenty of other reasons I don't quite fit into the calculation, but eh.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ipofanes on July 14, 2016, 03:44:20 am

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber.

It is obviously a Roman dodecahedron, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron) which is in line with the Roman theme of Empires. Let this be the second thing you think about.
Well, guess that makes me one of today's ten thousand (http://www.xkcd.com/1053).
Sorry for the choice of words. "Obviously" was not meant in the sense of "everyone knows about this shape" (I wouldn't have known it if I hadn't seen a specimen 15 years ago) but "once you know the shape, it's crystal clear to you that the item depicted was meant to represent exactly that antique relic".
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Burning Skull on July 14, 2016, 07:28:28 am
#181 - Crossroads

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cd/Crossroads.jpg/200px-Crossroads.jpg)

I had never noticed there were names on the sign before. Very nice. This is a very desolate place.

I really like Crossroads art - it's sad and pale and it looks like every road leads to Necropolis in the end (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ3aiM8K6D0).



Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 11:49:59 am
#178 - Alchemist

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/22/Alchemist.jpg/200px-Alchemist.jpg)

This is the start of group L, 15 cards.

His right arm would have to be about 8 feet long to get from where his shoulder is to where it is coming up in the frame. He's got the alien egg-sack in his other hand.

This art had a high variation, low rating of 2.5 and high rating of 7. This is definitely not 7 out of 7 quality art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 11:52:21 am
#177 - Royal Carriage

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cf/Royal_Carriage.jpg/200px-Royal_Carriage.jpg)

Very rude to hook up two My Little Ponies for the royal carriage. The woman needs to lighten up on the makeup.

Another card with a high variation in rating. I think my daughters just liked that there were horses. Grumble, grumble. I'm not a big fan of group L.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 11:53:48 am
#176 - Vault

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/62/Vault.jpg/200px-Vault.jpg)

Just by looking at the art I would have guessed the title of this card was Rummage Sale. It looks like it's sitting out on the front lawn.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on July 14, 2016, 07:12:23 pm

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/de/Charm.jpg/200px-Charm.jpg

The first thing this makes me think of is the training droid Obi-Wan-Kenobi used in Star Wars Episode 4 to train Luke Skywalker with the lightsaber.

It is obviously a Roman dodecahedron, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron) which is in line with the Roman theme of Empires. Let this be the second thing you think about.
Well, guess that makes me one of today's ten thousand (http://www.xkcd.com/1053).
Sorry for the choice of words. "Obviously" was not meant in the sense of "everyone knows about this shape" (I wouldn't have known it if I hadn't seen a specimen 15 years ago) but "once you know the shape, it's crystal clear to you that the item depicted was meant to represent exactly that antique relic".
Not to worry, I understood what you meant. I was more commenting on the fact that thanks to you and this thread, I got to learn something interesting and unusual!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jsh357 on July 14, 2016, 07:19:48 pm
How is Council Room #261? Did we learn nothing?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 08:11:51 pm
#175 - Peddler

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6f/Peddler.jpg/200px-Peddler.jpg)

Rey from Star Wars 7 is wearing a wok and trying to push off a jar of dirt on us.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 08:13:42 pm
#174 - Gear

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ec/Gear.jpg/200px-Gear.jpg)

My daughters thought the big roll of linen was odd. I told them it is probably a tent. This is a solid piece of art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 08:15:14 pm
#173 - Fortune Teller

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/55/Fortune_Teller.jpg/200px-Fortune_Teller.jpg)

She grew some feathers right out of her head. My daughters said she needs to wear a bra but that is TMI for me.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 14, 2016, 09:55:03 pm
#173 - Fortune Teller

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/55/Fortune_Teller.jpg/200px-Fortune_Teller.jpg)

She grew some feathers right out of her head. My daughters said she needs to wear a bra but that is TMI for me.

Even I didn't look there. And I'm a guy!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 14, 2016, 10:12:08 pm
If you knew the conversations I was subjected to at dinner being the only male in the house..........
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: gkrieg13 on July 14, 2016, 10:56:01 pm
#174 - Gear

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ec/Gear.jpg/200px-Gear.jpg)

My daughters thought the big roll of linen was odd. I told them it is probably a tent. This is a solid piece of art.

It will always surprise me how long it took me to realize it meant gear as in stuff, and not gear as in cog.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 15, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
#172 - Tribute

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/00/Tribute.jpg/200px-Tribute.jpg)

The abundance of red is distracting. The chest of the main guy is really weird even though I'm sure he's wearing armor or something.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 15, 2016, 12:28:15 pm
#171 - Banquet

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e4/Banquet.jpg/320px-Banquet.jpg)

All the people from Bonfire have just moved the party inside. It turns out they are all from Slytherin.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 15, 2016, 12:29:54 pm
#170 - Colonnade

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Colonnade.jpg/320px-Colonnade.jpg)

The water looks like it's made of fabric. I wonder how many nice buildings like that have chickens running around. No way that statue with the guy with the raised sword lasts very long.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 15, 2016, 05:59:15 pm
#169 - Market

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7e/Market.jpg/200px-Market.jpg)

I'd never paid much attention to the horse before, but it looks fake and out of place (but not so much that your eye is drawn right to it). The guy in blue just to the left of center looks a little demonish.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 15, 2016, 06:00:41 pm
#168 - Gold

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/05/Gold-new.jpg/200px-Gold-new.jpg)

Admittedly I've never seen a big stack of gold bars in real life, but I don't think they chip like that.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 15, 2016, 06:06:44 pm
#167 Philosopher's Stone

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Philosopher%27s_Stone.jpg/200px-Philosopher%27s_Stone.jpg)

I live in America and therefore know the first Harry Potter book as the Sorcerer's Stone. I was aware that its title had been changed from the British (original) version. Anyway, I bought the entire set of movies online and didn't pay much attention to them. My daughter came home from college and wanted to do a Harry Potter movie marathon so she cracked open the set. I get a text from her. She is doubting everything she knows about the world. 'Dad, I swear it was called the Sorcerer's Stone. Why is the first movie called the Philosopher's Stone?' Apparently I got the British set without knowing it. They shot all of the scenes in the movie that reference the stone twice once calling it the Sorcerer's Stone and once calling it the Philosopher's Stone.

Now that I've put you all to sleep, we love the box but it looks like there might be a giant spider hiding in the lid.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on July 16, 2016, 12:23:42 pm
No way that statue with the guy with the raised sword lasts very long.

I present to you:

(http://our-russia.com/sites/default/files/styles/resp_760_breakpoints_theme_russia_wide_1x/public/slideshow/8/mother_0.jpg?itok=NawFUdob)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 12:47:06 pm
#166 - Feodum

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1f/Feodum.jpg/200px-Feodum.jpg)

Group L seems to be where all the art I didn't like but that my daughters did like, or, that I liked and my daughters didn't like, shows up.

I really like Feodum. Two of my daughters rated it below average. More grumbling.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 12:48:35 pm
#165 - Mission

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/34/Mission.jpg/320px-Mission.jpg)

I hear the coconut shells clopping as Arthur, King of the Britons, and his knights of the round table come over the hill in search of the grail.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 12:49:57 pm
#164 - Wedding

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b6/Wedding.jpg/320px-Wedding.jpg)

If you lost the toxic green fumes along the floor, I think this is top 10 art. Even with the fumes I don't think it belongs in group L.

That is the end of group L and I am glad to see it go.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: pedroluchini on July 16, 2016, 05:42:19 pm
I present to you:

[picture of ginormous statue]

Holy mother of god, that thing is huge. Where is that?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 06:27:27 pm
#163 - Artificer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/01/Artificer.jpg/200px-Artificer.jpg)

This is the start of group K, 16 cards.

This woman is focused; look at those eyes. When you enlarge the picture, it looks like her hair is growing out of her arms. She is going to need a larger fire to generate the heat needed to blow the glass.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 06:38:43 pm
I present to you:

[picture of ginormous statue]

Holy mother of god, that thing is huge. Where is that?

I don't think that's a statue of Mary.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 06:42:13 pm
#162 - Fishing Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3b/Fishing_Village.jpg/200px-Fishing_Village.jpg)

Good thing he took that giant mop with him. The fins on the fish are really weird. There's some nice barrels of TNT near the shed and this guy is just happy to be here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 16, 2016, 06:44:56 pm
#161 - Tower

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/29/Tower.jpg/320px-Tower.jpg)

The breast-cancer awareness tower has strange perspective. The fat guy is keeping lookout without his shirt on.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 17, 2016, 11:20:09 am
#160 - Stonemason

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d2/Stonemason.jpg/200px-Stonemason.jpg)

The choice of lighting here is unusual. After all the beards in Dominion art this baby-faced guy stands out.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 17, 2016, 11:22:33 am
#159 - Worker's Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/12/Worker%27s_Village.jpg/200px-Worker%27s_Village.jpg)

I always thought the white thing was a chicken. I thought it was a little strange to have in the Worker's Village, but why not? My daughters pointed out that it is a guy holding or doing something. I still want it to be a chicken.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 17, 2016, 11:24:32 am
#158 - Island

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fd/Island.jpg/200px-Island.jpg)

Tucked back behind the tree there we can't tell if that is some cloud anomaly or a giant snow-covered peak rising in the distance. The waves are coming in at one angle and then breaking in another.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 17, 2016, 12:09:37 pm
#159 - Worker's Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/12/Worker%27s_Village.jpg/200px-Worker%27s_Village.jpg)

I always thought the white thing was a chicken. I thought it was a little strange to have in the Worker's Village, but why not? My daughters pointed out that it is a guy holding or doing something. I still want it to be a chicken.

So do I, comrade. So do I.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 17, 2016, 06:45:12 pm
#157 - Dominate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c9/Dominate.jpg/320px-Dominate.jpg)

The lone tree among the army is interesting. One is the loneliest number.

My daughters thought some of the soldiers look like bears. I don't really see it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 17, 2016, 06:46:46 pm
#156 - Arena

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Arena.jpg/320px-Arena.jpg)

I like how the bird is kept out of the shadow although the angle of the shadow seems to be inconsistent.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 17, 2016, 06:48:38 pm
#155 - Herald

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c1/Herald.jpg/200px-Herald.jpg)

This guy has a really thick neck. The width of the suspenders, or stripes, doesn't match.

He represents the Monkey King. I like the hat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Burning Skull on July 18, 2016, 11:33:55 am
#160 - Stonemason

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d2/Stonemason.jpg/200px-Stonemason.jpg)

The choice of lighting here is unusual. After all the beards in Dominion art this baby-faced guy stands out.

Isn't it Michael J. Fox?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 12:12:08 pm
#154 - Castles

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/df/Castles.jpg/200px-Castles.jpg)

The castle looks like it's sprouting out of the rock. That is a formidable underground entrance.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 12:13:38 pm
#153 - Ironmonger

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/93/Ironmonger.jpg/200px-Ironmonger.jpg)

There is so much gray here it's hard to tell what is what. If he doesn't feed that donkey soon, he'll have nothing to pull his cart.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 12:16:27 pm
#152 - Mercenary

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c5/Mercenary.jpg/200px-Mercenary.jpg)

I have a whole new respect for Mercenary now that I know that he's the boy from the Urchin card. This is one bad dude. Did he get that scar from the knife fight in Urchin? I keep trying to imagine how he got out of that nasty situation as a kid. What a confidence boost! It set him on a whole new path in life. He goes from a life of petty crime to getting paid to lawfully kill people.

Edit: That is one nasty-looking axe.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on July 18, 2016, 07:15:50 pm
I present to you:

[picture of ginormous statue]

Holy mother of god, that thing is huge. Where is that?

In Russia, because of course.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 07:20:44 pm
#151 - Scouting Party

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b2/Scouting_Party.jpg/320px-Scouting_Party.jpg)

I really like Scouting Party. The art is as much an improvement over Scout as the event is over the card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 07:23:04 pm
#150 - Journeyman

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/82/Journeyman.jpg/200px-Journeyman.jpg)

The toxic fumes from Embargo have blown in from the sea. The backpack the guy is wearing makes it look like he has a 3rd arm growing out of his back.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 07:25:05 pm
#149 - Messenger

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3c/Messenger.jpg/200px-Messenger.jpg)

Pocahontas is escaping from the English settlers. Great hair.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 18, 2016, 07:26:49 pm
#148 - Hermit

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8e/Hermit.jpg/200px-Hermit.jpg)

Dumbledore is out for a walk in the Forbidden Forest. We laughed at the thought of someone sleeping standing up in the hollow tree and how freaky that would be to stumble upon if you were out walking in the woods.

That is the end of group K. Only ten groups to go.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 18, 2016, 07:30:53 pm
#150 - Journeyman

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/82/Journeyman.jpg/200px-Journeyman.jpg)

The toxic fumes from Embargo has blown in from the sea. The backpack the guy is wearing makes it look like he has a 3rd arm growing out of his back.

That is bad 3D art. How that beat Fairgrounds is beyond me.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 19, 2016, 11:35:03 am
#147 - Explorer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3a/Explorer.jpg/200px-Explorer.jpg)

This is the start of group J, 15 cards.

This art must resonate with teenage girls. All 3 of my daughters rated this 5 or better. I can't stand this art (insert joke about they can't all be the best ever).

The water looks like a bunch of feathers. The front of the boat looks like an angry duck. She looks like an Irish dancer.

When I look at this art, I think of the opening scene from Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl where Jack Sparrow is riding his sinking boat into Port Royal and steps off the crow's nest onto the dock.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 19, 2016, 11:37:25 am
#146 - Transmute

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/22/Transmute.jpg/200px-Transmute.jpg)

We like the skull as a page holder. Too much blue and purple. My daughters thought the beard being tied at the end was funny.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 19, 2016, 11:39:21 am
#145 - Bishop

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b4/Bishop.jpg/200px-Bishop.jpg)

What's with the shriveled hand of death reaching out to bless this guy? I'd be shrinking back from having that hand touch me. I think the bishop is really a mummy in disguise. Look at that face!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 19, 2016, 07:34:20 pm
#144 - Seaway

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/df/Seaway.jpg/320px-Seaway.jpg)

The grass is always greener on the other side of the, uh, Seaway.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 19, 2016, 07:35:24 pm
#143 - Ghost Ship

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0a/Ghost_Ship.jpg/200px-Ghost_Ship.jpg)

My daughters say this looks like something out of Scooby Doo. I love the Dutch translation for the name of this card.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 19, 2016, 07:36:52 pm
#142 - Coin of the Realm

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/76/Coin_of_the_Realm.jpg/200px-Coin_of_the_Realm.jpg)

Coin of the Realm for Marioland. I'm pretty sure that's Princess Toadstool's castle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on July 19, 2016, 07:43:02 pm
#143 - Ghost Ship...
I love the Dutch translation for the name of this card.
please elaborate. I don't know any dutch, but I like words. What are the connotations & stuff that you like about the dutch translation?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AdrianHealey on July 19, 2016, 08:17:37 pm
The Dutch name is (literally translated into English); 'The Flying Dutchman', a myth about a sea captain
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 20, 2016, 11:23:24 am
#141 - Bandit Camp

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/43/Bandit_Camp.jpg/200px-Bandit_Camp.jpg)

One guy soaking his stinky feet. One guy notching an arrow. One guy standing guard over the guy soaking his feet.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 20, 2016, 11:25:27 am
#140 - Ironworks

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/76/Ironworks.jpg/200px-Ironworks.jpg)

Why are those guys carrying their crosses into the ironworks?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 20, 2016, 11:26:41 am
#139 - Feast

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9c/Feast.jpg/200px-Feast.jpg)

This card had a pretty high deviation in its rating. The pilgrim woman seems a little out of place.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 20, 2016, 07:20:38 pm
#138 - Graverobber

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/13/Graverobber.jpg/200px-Graverobber.jpg)

Nice floating lantern! The corpse just got engaged and wants everyone to see her ring.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 20, 2016, 07:22:17 pm
#137 - Miser

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f6/Miser.jpg/200px-Miser.jpg)

Those are nice ACE bandages on his feet. I think if you were hauling a bunch of riches around in a cart back then, you wouldn't be hauling a bunch of riches around for very long.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 20, 2016, 07:23:39 pm
#136 - Sir Vander

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/30/Sir_Vander.jpg/200px-Sir_Vander.jpg)

Sir Vander looks like a goblin sitting on a swayback horse.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 21, 2016, 11:40:10 am
#135 - Distant Lands

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3e/Distant_Lands.jpg/200px-Distant_Lands.jpg)

Matthew Chapter 2 Verse 1 "...behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem"
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 21, 2016, 11:41:59 am
#134 - Mine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8e/Mine.jpg/200px-Mine.jpg)

We work, work, work, work, work, work, work, in a mine the whole day through....

(song from Disney's Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 21, 2016, 11:42:54 am
#134 - Mine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8e/Mine.jpg/200px-Mine.jpg)

We work, work, work, work, work, work, work, in a mine the whole day through....

(song from Disney's Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuJpdJ8mrI
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 21, 2016, 11:44:30 am
#133 - Border Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Border_Village.jpg/200px-Border_Village.jpg)

I really like this art. It is a little gray and it looks more like a fortress than a village. My daughters want to know why most of the art like this is up on a cliff.

That is the end of group J.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on July 21, 2016, 04:06:06 pm
#133 - Border Village

I really like this art. It is a little gray and it looks more like a fortress than a village. My daughters want to know why most of the art like this is up on a cliff.

A cliff seems like a natural border.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 21, 2016, 06:07:15 pm
#132 - Ambassador

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/74/Ambassador.jpg/200px-Ambassador.jpg)

This is the start of group I, 13 cards.

The room is very weird. A cup is sitting on a slanted surface and the light fixture looks like a floating peach. I wonder who gave the ambassador that black eye.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 21, 2016, 06:10:29 pm
#131 - Tournament

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c4/Tournament.jpg/200px-Tournament.jpg)

The knight on the right is in big trouble. That broken lance is about to go right through his eye slot and will probably kill him.

Those spectators are really far away. They will need some binoculars.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 21, 2016, 06:19:54 pm
#130 - Travelling Fair

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/be/Travelling_Fair.jpg/320px-Travelling_Fair.jpg)

I'm anticipating the comments about 'Fairgrounds is better than this', so I will get on my soapbox for a bit.

As I said when I posted Fairgrounds, the artist completely missed the moment in time you want to capture with Fairgrounds. Travelling Fair does a much better job. We want to think of the excitement of the Fair, not the letdown. If you were going to do some art for buying a car, you don't want to capture the moment of buyer's remorse. If you're drawing Feast, you aren't going to capture the moment of cleaning up all the trash and leftover food and bones and dirty dishes.

Stepping off my soapbox now.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ConMan on July 21, 2016, 07:26:55 pm
#132 - Ambassador

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/74/Ambassador.jpg/200px-Ambassador.jpg)

This is the start of group I, 13 cards.

The room is very weird. A cup is sitting on a slanted surface and the light fixture looks like a floating peach. I wonder who gave the ambassador that black eye.
I've always assumed that, since this card is from Seaside, that he's on board a ship. That would explain why everything looks slightly off-balance, and why the light is a hanging one.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 21, 2016, 07:29:53 pm
#130 - Travelling Fair

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/be/Travelling_Fair.jpg/320px-Travelling_Fair.jpg)

I'm anticipating the comments about 'Fairgrounds is better than this', so I will get on my soapbox for a bit.

As I said when I posted Fairgrounds, the artist completely missed the moment in time you want to capture with Fairgrounds. Travelling Fair does a much better job. We want to think of the excitement of the Fair, not the letdown. If you were going to do some art for buying a car, you don't want to capture the moment of buyer's remorse. If you're drawing Feast, you aren't going to capture the moment of cleaning up all the trash and leftover food and bones and dirty dishes.

Stepping off my soapbox now.

Fairgrounds is better than this.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2016, 12:53:52 pm
#129 - Sir Michael

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/21/Sir_Michael.jpg/200px-Sir_Michael.jpg)

When you look at an enlarged picture, it looks like Sir Michael has Bell's Palsy. (Bell's palsy is a sudden facial paralysis that usually strikes all or part of one side of the face.)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2016, 12:55:31 pm
#128 - Thief

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f5/Thief.jpg/200px-Thief.jpg)

He should have removed his sleeping mask before he went out. Also, he might have wanted to change out of his court jester hat. Anyone who sees that hat will know who he is.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2016, 12:56:42 pm
#127 - Royal Seal

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Royal_Seal.jpg/200px-Royal_Seal.jpg)

We love the attention to detail here. We also like the inclusion of the lady bug.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2016, 06:55:41 pm
#126 - Nomad Camp

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/89/Nomad_Camp.jpg/200px-Nomad_Camp.jpg)

That dog is in an unenviable spot. With no counterweight on the other side that bucket is likely to come down on its head.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2016, 06:57:30 pm
#125 - Highway

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/29/Highway.jpg/200px-Highway.jpg)

Life is a highway....

I'm on the highway to ...

Get your motor running. Head out on the highway.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2016, 06:59:10 pm
#124 - Torturer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a9/Torturer.jpg/200px-Torturer.jpg)

This guy is an anatomical mutant but can you imagine being a prisoner and having him coming at you for your torture session?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:34:01 pm
#123 - Cutpurse

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Cutpurse.jpg/200px-Cutpurse.jpg)

Nintendo fell on hard times after the flop of the Wii U so Link had to turn to petty crime to make ends meet. It looks like he might drop the bag there.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:35:17 pm
#122 - Sir Bailey

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a6/Sir_Bailey.jpg/200px-Sir_Bailey.jpg)

The horse's head is really big. Is Sir Bailey carrying his dinner on a stick?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:36:33 pm
#121 - Basilica

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/54/Basilica.jpg/320px-Basilica.jpg)

How did that guy get a copy of the original stone tablet with the 10 Commandments?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:37:40 pm
#120 - Ferry

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d9/Ferry.jpg/320px-Ferry.jpg)

The ripples in the water don't seem quite right. What's the knight doing with a parakeet on his head?

That is the end of group I.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:40:21 pm
#119 - Forager

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e6/Forager.jpg/200px-Forager.jpg)

This is the start of group H, 14 cards.

Butt Hand.

It looks like she has her thumb stuck into the fruit.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:41:20 pm
#118 - Hovel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f0/Hovel.jpg/200px-Hovel.jpg)

We're expecting Donkey any minute to make waffles for Shrek.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 12:46:34 pm
#117 - Overlord

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5e/Overlord.jpg/200px-Overlord.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDggbilS40o (only need to catch the first few seconds)

Being an Overlord is a high stress position. It's tough to get all your idiot underlings to perform. I think he has been self-medicating with alcohol for quite some time.

Perhaps Rudolf found a way to change into human form.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 24, 2016, 12:48:59 pm
You didn't make a passing joke about me.  :) Yay! You are the first to not do so!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 01:25:55 pm
You didn't make a passing joke about me.  :) Yay! You are the first to not do so!

I thought about referencing you but there was too much else to say.

Edit: Also, my daughters make most of the commentary and they have no idea who you are.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:34:30 pm
#116 - Bag of Gold

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b4/Bag_of_Gold.jpg/200px-Bag_of_Gold.jpg)

It looks like someone stole Forager's cloak and made the bag of gold out of it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:36:20 pm
#115 - Tunnel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c2/Tunnel.jpg/200px-Tunnel.jpg)

They even had graffiti back then. Those are some large veins of gold. You'd think someone would have mined this already.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:37:43 pm
#114 - Horse Traders

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Horse_Traders.jpg/200px-Horse_Traders.jpg)

Mr. Ed is a traitor to his species. He's in there negotiating with the rest of them.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:40:11 pm
#113 - Band of Misfits

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/51/Band_of_Misfits.jpg/200px-Band_of_Misfits.jpg)

This is a nice family photo of some vampires. I feel bad for the one on the right with the tiny foot.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:41:38 pm
#112 - Ruined Library

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fe/Ruined_Library.jpg/200px-Ruined_Library.jpg)

The Book Thief.

This reminded us of a scene from Lego Harry Potter on the Wii.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:44:36 pm
#111 - Bridge

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/39/Bridge.jpg/200px-Bridge.jpg)

Like a bridge over troubled waters

Bridge to Terabithia

Bridge to Nowhere.

A Bridge too Far.

Bridge over the River Kawai.

If you want to cross a bridge, you've got to pay the toll.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 24, 2016, 05:49:31 pm
#110 - Quest

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Quest.jpg/320px-Quest.jpg)

Little Blue Riding Hood is setting out for grandmother's house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWS8Mg-JWSg

I suppose I could have also linked that for Bridge.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AJD on July 24, 2016, 06:02:42 pm
#114 - Horse Traders

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Horse_Traders.jpg/200px-Horse_Traders.jpg)

Mr. Ed is a traitor to his species. He's in there negotiating with the rest of them.

That's why the card is called "Horse Traitors".
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on July 24, 2016, 06:30:30 pm
#115 - Tunnel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c2/Tunnel.jpg/200px-Tunnel.jpg)

They even had graffiti back then. Those are some large veins of gold. You'd think someone would have mined this already.
I always thought they were roots
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: traces Around on July 24, 2016, 07:00:59 pm
#115 - Tunnel
They even had graffiti back then. Those are some large veins of gold. You'd think someone would have mined this already.
I always thought they were roots

Man, I want to see some of the trees where you live.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 12:21:15 pm
#109 - Labyrinth

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c0/Labyrinth.jpg/320px-Labyrinth.jpg)

A stone labyrinth is a serious undertaking. David Bowie would be so proud.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 12:23:05 pm
#108 - Small Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a9/Small_Castle.jpg/200px-Small_Castle.jpg)

Who says bigger is better?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 12:25:05 pm
#107 - Lost Arts

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4b/Lost_Arts.jpg/320px-Lost_Arts.jpg)

Those almost look like sticks of dynamite there. We are surprised at how careless people have been in Dominion art in having parchment kept so close to an open flame.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 12:28:12 pm
#106 - Curse

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b9/Curse-new.jpg/200px-Curse-new.jpg)

Curse is one of my favorite pieces of art although my daughters didn't entirely agree. Here is an abstract concept captured very well. I love it.

That is the end of group H.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 07:30:29 pm
#105 - Wandering Minstrel

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f9/Wandering_Minstrel.jpg/200px-Wandering_Minstrel.jpg)

This is the start of group G, 14 cards.

What did Dumbledore expect when he hired Quirrell the wandering minstrel as his Defense Against the Dark Arts professor?

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/harrypotter/images/e/e1/Quirinus-Quirrel_458.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/270?cb=20110806132643)

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 07:32:18 pm
#104 - Treasure Trove

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/22/Treasure_Trove.jpg/200px-Treasure_Trove.jpg)

Aladdin's lamp is the real treasure here. Some of the rest of the stuff just looks like costume jewelry.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 25, 2016, 07:34:09 pm
#103 - Sir Martin

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ab/Sir_Martin.jpg/200px-Sir_Martin.jpg)

Sir Martin must have some serious pecs for them to need to custom fit his armor around them like that. He's riding under a banner from Mulan.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 26, 2016, 12:16:31 am
#103 - Sir Martin

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ab/Sir_Martin.jpg/200px-Sir_Martin.jpg)

Sir Martin must have some serious pecs for them to need to custom fit his armor around them like that. He's riding under a banner from Mulan.

Poor Dame Anna lost to this one.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Aleimon Thimble on July 26, 2016, 04:10:12 am
I don't really understand though.

Your daughters are all looking at these cards intensively, scrutinizing the artwork, but there's also something else on the card: the text that says what the card actually does. How does one look at all of these cards without even considering playing the actual game? If I were asked for some kind of art ranking committee involving a card game I don't know a lot about - say, Magic - I would estimate the chance of me becoming actually interested in the game itself to be about 99%. At the very least I would want to know what all of these things on the card meant (in the case of Dominion, +Cards, +Buys et cetera).

I guess your girls aren't nerdy enough.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: werothegreat on July 26, 2016, 09:07:56 am
I don't really understand though.

Your daughters are all looking at these cards intensively, scrutinizing the artwork, but there's also something else on the card: the text that says what the card actually does. How does one look at all of these cards without even considering playing the actual game? If I were asked for some kind of art ranking committee involving a card game I don't know a lot about - say, Magic - I would estimate the chance of me becoming actually interested in the game itself to be about 99%. At the very least I would want to know what all of these things on the card meant (in the case of Dominion, +Cards, +Buys et cetera).

I guess your girls aren't nerdy enough.

I take it you never collected Pokemon cards as a child?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 10:50:55 am
#102 - Jester

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1b/Jester.jpg/200px-Jester.jpg)

I've always found this picture to be creepy.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 10:52:15 am
#101 - University

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9b/University.jpg/200px-University.jpg)

This is another scene reminiscent of Lego Harry Potter.

We now begin the top 100 cards, according to our weird method.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 10:53:59 am
#100 - Cache

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/66/Cache.jpg/200px-Cache.jpg)

Someone's chest fell off the back of their cart in the middle of Snow White's woods. We like the Medusa head.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on July 26, 2016, 12:56:11 pm
#100 - Cache

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/66/Cache.jpg/200px-Cache.jpg)

Someone's chest fell off the back of their cart in the middle of Snow White's woods. We like the Medusa head.
Just noticed those trees in the back. Weird how these things happen.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Haddock on July 26, 2016, 01:33:07 pm
#101 - University

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9b/University.jpg/200px-University.jpg)

This is another scene reminiscent of Lego Harry Potter.

We now begin the top 100 cards, according to our weird method.
I have no evidence for this besides looks, but I believe this art was based on Christchurch college Oxford.  Which is where pieces of Harry Potter were filmed. So you're not far off perhaps.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LaLight on July 26, 2016, 05:08:41 pm
#100 - Cache

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/66/Cache.jpg/200px-Cache.jpg)

Someone's chest fell off the back of their cart in the middle of Snow White's woods. We like the Medusa head.
Just noticed those trees in the back. Weird how these things happen.

I've seen the trees, but never the gates and the head. weird.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Aleimon Thimble on July 26, 2016, 06:24:00 pm
I don't really understand though.

Your daughters are all looking at these cards intensively, scrutinizing the artwork, but there's also something else on the card: the text that says what the card actually does. How does one look at all of these cards without even considering playing the actual game? If I were asked for some kind of art ranking committee involving a card game I don't know a lot about - say, Magic - I would estimate the chance of me becoming actually interested in the game itself to be about 99%. At the very least I would want to know what all of these things on the card meant (in the case of Dominion, +Cards, +Buys et cetera).

I guess your girls aren't nerdy enough.

I take it you never collected Pokemon cards as a child?

I actually did play that game though! It was surprisingly awful, considering the fact that the video games have such a nice battling metagame.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 07:43:13 pm
#99 - Throne Room

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d1/Throne_Room.jpg/200px-Throne_Room.jpg)

Even though it's very red, we like it. Reminds me of how everything was red when Jafar was briefly sultan.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 07:45:45 pm
#98 - Coppersmith

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/40/Coppersmith.jpg/200px-Coppersmith.jpg)

Those are some nice copper apples on the left. It's weird how the one item on the right is teetering without falling. Buy your Mayan calendar here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 07:46:53 pm
#97 - Soothsayer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/01/Soothsayer.jpg/200px-Soothsayer.jpg)

When I went to pull this up on the Wiki for the image, I started typing Sinead O'Connor. She has creepy fingers.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 07:48:29 pm
#96 - Vineyard

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Vineyard.jpg/200px-Vineyard.jpg)

The vineyard rows look more like a hedge to me. My daughters say this looks like the vineyard from The Parent Trap (newer version I guess because it didn't bring up that same image for me).
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 26, 2016, 07:51:31 pm
#96 - Vineyard

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Vineyard.jpg/200px-Vineyard.jpg)

The vineyard rows look more like a hedge to me. My daughters say this looks like the vineyard from The Parent Trap (newer version I guess because it didn't bring up that same image for me).

I didn't even know there was an older version. The Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen one was the only version I knew.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 26, 2016, 08:30:09 pm
The original had Haley Mills but my daughters were referring to the Lindsay Lohan version which I have not seen.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 11:13:28 am
#95 - Marauder

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5e/Marauder.jpg/200px-Marauder.jpg)

He'll have a lot more success if he puts his loot in a sack or something.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 11:16:36 am
#94 - Rats

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/70/Rats.jpg/200px-Rats.jpg)

Rats is such a fun card to win with. I admit I've lost a ton of my attempts to win with a Rats strategy, but so satisfying when you pull it off. None of the people I regularly used to play with (all have moved) ever even tried to do anything with Rats. If there's even an inkling of a chance with it, I will go for it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 11:18:29 am
#93 - Ruined Market

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f2/Ruined_Market.jpg/200px-Ruined_Market.jpg)

If I'm not mistaken, this is Ruined Grand Market. It used to be Great Salt Lake City and they dropped the Great, so whatever.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 11:20:54 am
#92 - Palace

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c4/Palace.jpg/320px-Palace.jpg)

Another prominent building set up on a pinnacle of rock. It sure would make you not want to travel having that nasty incline to manage so you could get home.

That is the end of group G.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 07:15:26 pm
#91 - Followers

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/12/Followers.jpg/200px-Followers.jpg)

This is the start of group F, 12 cards.

Where are they following her to? We can only guess. I think we have to assume this is some kind of unruly mob since the card is an attack but they aren't armed with anything other than banners and fruit and vegetables that I can tell. Perhaps she is like a Pied Piper.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 07:20:25 pm
#90 - Duplicate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/59/Duplicate.jpg/200px-Duplicate.jpg)

None of my daughters was able to pick out the immediate problem with the duplicate. How the heck are they going to reproduce the spear? This is an awful lot of work for one guy.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 27, 2016, 07:24:01 pm
#89 - Witch

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f3/Witch.jpg/200px-Witch.jpg)

That's some nice seaweed she has draped over her in various spots. She has a little bit of a butt chin going if you look closely. My daughters called the little creature being summoned an 'Evil Hello Kitty'. She's had some nice work done on her nails to get them that sharp.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: madeofghosts on July 28, 2016, 05:55:01 am
#102 - Jester

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1b/Jester.jpg/200px-Jester.jpg)

I've always found this picture to be creepy.

This was my (halfhearted) prediction for number one! I have no idea what's going to happen now. Actually loads of cards I really like have gone now (Curse, Masquerade, Thief)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 11:57:14 am
As will be seen in my next post, you can hardly fathom the mind of a teenager.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 12:00:46 pm
#88 - Patrician

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fb/Patrician.jpg/200px-Patrician.jpg)

The question in my mind is; how did Patrician end up at 88 when Patrician/Emporium and Emporium ended up at 310 and 298 respectively?

One of my daughters must have really hated the Emporium part of the scene. She rated Patrician 7 out of 7 but the other two cards 4 or worse. It's all very strange. As if there weren't enough evidence to reduce the credibility of this whole effort.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 12:03:50 pm
#87 - Legionary

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/64/Legionary.jpg/200px-Legionary.jpg)

As with Adventurer the cape is way too long. How could you even function with that thing flapping around? You'd step on it or have someone grab it and pull you down. Even if it's just ceremonial, you couldn't march around in that thing. The guy behind you would stomp on it and you'd end up on your face.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 12:05:23 pm
#86 - Mystic

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/37/Mystic.jpg/200px-Mystic.jpg)

Here is Calypso from the Pirates of the Caribbean. That skull in the foreground has a nice grill.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 06:10:46 pm
#85 - Warrior

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/95/Warrior.jpg/200px-Warrior.jpg)

Shooting down the walls of heartache....

Going into battle with your hair down is a bad idea. It's the same as the long cape, likely to get in your way or be used as a tool against you. She does have fabulous hair (I know it's hard to see) but this would be the time to keep it up.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 06:12:38 pm
#84 - Grand Market

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/81/Grand_Market.jpg/200px-Grand_Market.jpg)

My daughters say this looks like a scene from Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. It's been so long since I've played the game that I can't remember. The guy on the left has a bit of a face like a sloth.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 28, 2016, 06:14:34 pm
#83 - King's Court

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8d/King%27s_Court.jpg/200px-King%27s_Court.jpg)

My daughters say this reminds them of King Trident from Little Mermaid. I can see it a little. Either that's a dirt floor or they have terrible taste in carpet.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Burning Skull on July 29, 2016, 04:09:47 am
That skull in the foreground has a nice grill.

It is burning, in other words
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ipofanes on July 29, 2016, 05:13:49 am
#92 - Palace

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c4/Palace.jpg/320px-Palace.jpg)

Another prominent building set up on a pinnacle of rock. It sure would make you not want to travel having that nasty incline to manage so you could get home.

This is one game theme I would like to see exploited, even though most people think medieval/Renaissance themes have been beaten to death: The evolution of a castle from a medieval fortified recluse to a baroque representative stately home. In the first part of the game, you'd rather like to have it on the steep hill right on the river you want to use for toll collection, but in the second half you find that the asset becomed a liability and your influential friends don't bother to visit you because of the climb. Abandoning the castle and rebuilding it on plains halfway through should be an (expensive) option.

I am fascinated with buildings which managed to work both ways during the ages, and the palace in the picture seems to try and do just that.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 29, 2016, 12:40:38 pm
#82 - Caravan Guard

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fa/Caravan_Guard.jpg/200px-Caravan_Guard.jpg)

The horse has a very arched neck considering it doesn't look like the reins are being pulled at the moment. I'm glad that didn't go with the camel caravan theme. This is much nicer.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 29, 2016, 12:42:25 pm
#81 - Mining Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7f/Mining_Village.jpg/200px-Mining_Village.jpg)

My daughters say the climbing guy looks like Shadow Mario. I've never played a game with that character so I couldn't say. I just like the art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 29, 2016, 12:44:51 pm
#80 - Keep

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4b/Keep.jpg/320px-Keep.jpg)

Why does it look like there has been frosting poured over the far half of the walls? I didn't really notice that at first. My daughters thought there should have been more uniformity in the helmet style for an army.

That is the end of group F.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 29, 2016, 12:55:13 pm
We have now posted 300 cards. I'm going to take a minute and vent. It has been increasingly difficult to get my daughters together to process a batch of cards. Apparently they enjoyed making fun of the lesser art. Now I just get, "This is all good art, Dad." I have nearly run out of cards to post on a few occasions.

With 5 groups and 79 cards to go you can rest assured that we will finish. You can complain about a lot of things with our rankings, but you can't say we haven't been regular and diligent about posting cards. Hopefully my daughters will not be such pains about finishing. The last couple of groups have been very unpleasant to process and the commentary isn't very interesting once everyone has had to be brow-beaten into participating.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 29, 2016, 01:30:03 pm
We have now posted 300 cards. I'm going to take a minute and vent. It has been increasingly difficult to get my daughters together to process a batch of cards. Apparently they enjoyed making fun of the lesser art. Now I just get, "This is all good art, Dad." I have nearly run out of cards to post on a few occasions.

With 5 groups and 79 cards to go you can rest assured that we will finish. You can complain about a lot of things with our rankings, but you can't say we haven't been regular and diligent about posting cards. Hopefully my daughters will not be such pains about finishing. The last couple of groups have been very unpleasant to process and the commentary isn't very interesting once everyone has had to be brow-beaten into participating.

(https://i.imgflip.com/185kgw.jpg)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Haddock on July 29, 2016, 01:57:45 pm
#81 - Mining Village

My daughters say the climbing guy looks like Shadow Mario. I've never played a game with that character so I couldn't say. I just like the art.
I always thought it was some kind of counterweight mechanism doing something in the tower.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 12:57:15 am
#79 - Monument

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ad/Monument.jpg/200px-Monument.jpg)

After a really long day at work, here is the start of group E, 15 cards.

Monument to teenage lameness.

Monument to stupidity.

Monument to whatever.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 12:58:44 am
#78 - Plaza

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fc/Plaza.jpg/200px-Plaza.jpg)

The water is a funny color. Is the guy carrying a plate of sausages?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 01:00:47 am
#77 - Rogue

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f6/Rogue.jpg/200px-Rogue.jpg)

I think borrowing the Duke's quilted shirt is a questionable fashion choice, but it is dark out so no one will really see it especially if you are going to sneak up on them and knife them from behind. I'm not quite sure what the setting here is. It almost looks like he is in a cave.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 11:13:47 am
#76 - Native Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/67/Native_Village.jpg/200px-Native_Village.jpg)

There's a tree growing out of the roof of the one hut. I'm sure that's not super unusual, but the trunk doesn't extend down through the hut. Maybe it's an antenna for the TV.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 11:16:50 am
#75 - Outpost

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b4/Outpost.jpg/200px-Outpost.jpg)

I love the building. However, constructing those lower down parts of the structure would be extremely hard in this location. This would probably just be an awful place to live. It's not like you can get a boat into that swirling vortex of death. If that bridge goes down while you are in the building, you are totally up a creek without a paddle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 11:18:48 am
#74 - Squire

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/79/Squire.jpg/200px-Squire.jpg)

By not including faces, I think this is a tip of the cap to all the nameless squires through the ages who faithfully served their knights.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Donald X. on July 30, 2016, 12:48:50 pm
We have now posted 300 cards. I'm going to take a minute and vent. It has been increasingly difficult to get my daughters together to process a batch of cards. Apparently they enjoyed making fun of the lesser art. Now I just get, "This is all good art, Dad." I have nearly run out of cards to post on a few occasions.

With 5 groups and 79 cards to go you can rest assured that we will finish. You can complain about a lot of things with our rankings, but you can't say we haven't been regular and diligent about posting cards. Hopefully my daughters will not be such pains about finishing. The last couple of groups have been very unpleasant to process and the commentary isn't very interesting once everyone has had to be brow-beaten into participating.
The important thing is to find something bad to say about every piece of Dominion art. Put those artists in their place!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: pedroluchini on July 30, 2016, 05:23:46 pm
#81 - Mining Village

My daughters say the climbing guy looks like Shadow Mario. I've never played a game with that character so I couldn't say. I just like the art.

In Super Mario Sunshine there's a villain called Shadow Mario. Is it likely that your daughters are familiar with a 14-year-old game?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 05:24:05 pm
We have now posted 300 cards. I'm going to take a minute and vent. It has been increasingly difficult to get my daughters together to process a batch of cards. Apparently they enjoyed making fun of the lesser art. Now I just get, "This is all good art, Dad." I have nearly run out of cards to post on a few occasions.

With 5 groups and 79 cards to go you can rest assured that we will finish. You can complain about a lot of things with our rankings, but you can't say we haven't been regular and diligent about posting cards. Hopefully my daughters will not be such pains about finishing. The last couple of groups have been very unpleasant to process and the commentary isn't very interesting once everyone has had to be brow-beaten into participating.
The important thing is to find something bad to say about every piece of Dominion art. Put those artists in their place!

We've done our very best!

Edit: My daughters are adamant that making fun of the art is far more interesting to them than saying nice things. I can't say I entirely disagree but I have tried to shift their focus to other areas of commentary, mostly unsuccessfully.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 05:24:59 pm
#81 - Mining Village

My daughters say the climbing guy looks like Shadow Mario. I've never played a game with that character so I couldn't say. I just like the art.

In Super Mario Sunshine there's a villain called Shadow Mario. Is it likely that your daughters are familiar with a 14-year-old game?

We have a copy of Mario Sunshine and I have seen my daughters playing it. Wii is the last console we bought, so all those games are still kicking around.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 05:26:53 pm
#73 - Trade

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9d/Trade.jpg/320px-Trade.jpg)

While trading for money is technically correct in concept, we'd have like to have seen trading for something else. Nice art though.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 05:28:43 pm
#72 - Triumph

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c9/Triumph.jpg/320px-Triumph.jpg)

The view angle is interesting. The first horse's face is a little odd perhaps due to the lighting.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 30, 2016, 05:31:02 pm
#71 - Defiled Shrine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Defiled_Shrine.jpg/320px-Defiled_Shrine.jpg)

Neglected Shrine? Overgrown Shrine?

In defiling a shrine I think more of desecration, but we still like the art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 30, 2016, 06:56:45 pm
#71 - Defiled Shrine

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dd/Defiled_Shrine.jpg/320px-Defiled_Shrine.jpg)

Neglected Shrine? Overgrown Shrine?

In defiling a shrine I think more of desecration, but we still like the art.

That's bad 3D art. How did this beat Dame Anna? Fairgrounds? Oh, the utter sadness...
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on July 30, 2016, 06:57:51 pm
#81 - Mining Village

My daughters say the climbing guy looks like Shadow Mario. I've never played a game with that character so I couldn't say. I just like the art.

In Super Mario Sunshine there's a villain called Shadow Mario. Is it likely that your daughters are familiar with a 14-year-old game?

I've beaten that game twice. I've gotten all of the Shine Sprites, sans a few that are blue coins.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 31, 2016, 11:56:53 am
#70 - Horn of Plenty

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/20/Horn_of_Plenty.jpg/200px-Horn_of_Plenty.jpg)

My daughters: 'It just looks like a basket of fruit.'

Uh, yeah.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 31, 2016, 11:59:34 am
#69 - Hireling

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/91/Hireling.jpg/200px-Hireling.jpg)

My daughters said it looks like he's sitting on a couch with no legs. Whatever.

This art really resonates with me. I've always liked it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 31, 2016, 12:01:34 pm
#68 - King's Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f1/King%27s_Castle.jpg/200px-King%27s_Castle.jpg)

The castle art continues with the varied and interesting sky colors. That is a fantastic castle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on July 31, 2016, 12:41:33 pm
That's bad 3D art. How did this beat Dame Anna? Fairgrounds? Oh, the utter sadness...

I think it's pretty good 3D art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: schadd on July 31, 2016, 12:42:09 pm
#81 - Mining Village

My daughters say the climbing guy looks like Shadow Mario. I've never played a game with that character so I couldn't say. I just like the art.

In Super Mario Sunshine there's a villain called Shadow Mario. Is it likely that your daughters are familiar with a 14-year-old game?
s. mario also appears in super mario galaxy 1 & 2 i believe, which are wii releases
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: J Reggie on July 31, 2016, 03:54:11 pm
#69 - Hireling

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/91/Hireling.jpg/200px-Hireling.jpg)

My daughters said it looks like he's sitting on a couch with no legs. Whatever.

This art really resonates with me. I've always liked it.

I've never played any Grand Theft Auto games, but from what I've seen of them I think hireling looks like Nico Bellic.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 31, 2016, 05:37:01 pm
#67 - Golem

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/dc/Golem.jpg/200px-Golem.jpg)

I think this is from a dream sequence from Harry Potter where Sirius Black gets to boss around Lord Voldemort.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 31, 2016, 05:39:47 pm
#66 - Chariot Race

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7c/Chariot_Race.jpg/200px-Chariot_Race.jpg)

She makes the Indy 500 look like a Roman Chariot Race now....

This could be straight out of Ben-Hur. I'm not happy they are remaking that movie by the way. It's one of my all-time favorites.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on July 31, 2016, 05:41:43 pm
#65 - Advance

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/37/Advance.jpg/320px-Advance.jpg)

My daughters wondered why she wore her wedding dress for this occasion.

I think it is a great piece of art. I would have had it in my top 20.

That is the end of group E.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on August 01, 2016, 10:08:44 am
We have now posted 300 cards. I'm going to take a minute and vent. It has been increasingly difficult to get my daughters together to process a batch of cards. Apparently they enjoyed making fun of the lesser art. Now I just get, "This is all good art, Dad." I have nearly run out of cards to post on a few occasions.

So you haven't actually given a score to all the cards yet?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
All the cards have been given a score. But after I broke them up into groups, we lay out all the cards in a group and order them worst to best in that group and then make comments. I'm rarely able to get very far ahead in that department. All the groups are formed but the final order within the groups has yet to be determined.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 12:11:46 pm
#64 - Silver

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/13/Silver-new.jpg/200px-Silver-new.jpg)

This is the start of group D, 15 cards.

Silver Bells. Silver and Gold.

Did you know that in the Wizard of Oz, the book, Dorothy's slippers are made of silver and not rubies?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 12:27:21 pm
#63 - Herbalist

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/26/Herbalist.jpg/200px-Herbalist.jpg)

The guy almost looks like he's serving up some casserole. There is some nice green ectoplasm for sale.

I can't even think of Herbalist without thinking of this epic post: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10809.msg363315#msg363315

If you've never read it, you should.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 12:32:32 pm
#62 - Crown

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/91/Crown.jpg/200px-Crown.jpg)

The window is a little odd. We love the crown.

I can't hear the word crown without thinking of this from Pollyanna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvbgVy7jxhI

The way she says the words 'crown thy good' has been seared into my brain forever.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Jimmmmm on August 01, 2016, 03:56:04 pm
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/91/Crown.jpg/200px-Crown.jpg)

Is that a distorted Bridge out the window?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 07:44:17 pm
#61 - Treasure Hunter

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/ce/Treasure_Hunter.jpg/200px-Treasure_Hunter.jpg)

My daughters had issues with the cave and her not having any scratches or cuts. Whatever, I think it's cool.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 07:45:40 pm
#60 - Library

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/98/Library.jpg/200px-Library.jpg)

My daughters say this looks like the library from Beauty and the Beast. They have decided as well that the guy in blue is a member of the Illuminati. Go figure.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 01, 2016, 07:47:56 pm
#59 - Noble Brigand

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/63/Noble_Brigand.jpg/200px-Noble_Brigand.jpg)

Adam Driver's first, little-known, role as Robin Hood before he took on the role as Kylo Ren.

When he took off that mask for the first time, I couldn't believe they didn't get a good-looking actor to play Han Solo's son.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Marcory on August 01, 2016, 08:33:13 pm
Wait, Kylo Ren is Han Solo's son? How dare you spoil this. Next you're going to suggest that Luke Skywalker is Darth Vader's Moat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on August 01, 2016, 08:35:33 pm
When he took off that mask for the first time, I couldn't believe they didn't get a good-looking actor to play Han Solo's son.

Why does everyone say this? Adam Driver looks awesome.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on August 02, 2016, 12:25:19 am
When he took off that mask for the first time, I couldn't believe they didn't get a good-looking actor to play Han Solo's son.

Why does everyone say this? Adam Driver looks awesome.
He looks to me like a young version of Alan Rickman.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ipofanes on August 02, 2016, 02:50:58 am
Did you know that in the Wizard of Oz, the book, Dorothy's slippers are made of silver and not rubies?

Sure. Red shoes were better equipped to show off the new-fangled colour movie technology.

But I am more familiar with the rehash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_the_Emerald_City) by Aleksandr Volkov anyway.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Infthitbox on August 02, 2016, 09:06:48 am
Did you know that in the Wizard of Oz, the book, Dorothy's slippers are made of silver and not rubies?

Sure. Red shoes were better equipped to show off the new-fangled colour movie technology.


Yeah, but the silver shoes were pretty central to the whole economic point the book was trying to make.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 12:50:15 pm
Did you know that in the Wizard of Oz, the book, Dorothy's slippers are made of silver and not rubies?

Sure. Red shoes were better equipped to show off the new-fangled colour movie technology.


Yeah, but the silver shoes were pretty central to the whole economic point the book was trying to make.

When has Hollywood ever been worried about the original content of a story?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 12:51:42 pm
#58 - Trader

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/12/Trader.jpg/200px-Trader.jpg)

Mona Lisa sells to the woman from the Scarlet Letter and her daughter. (My daughters told me the little girl looks like the little girl from the Scarlet Letter. I have to assume that is her mother then).
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 12:53:58 pm
#57 - Venture

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ef/Venture.jpg/200px-Venture.jpg)

The monarch practice his hypnotism skills while listening to another crackpot pitch his wonderful idea that would pay back in cartloads if he is just given the chance.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 12:57:51 pm
#56 - Sacrifice

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/51/Sacrifice.jpg/200px-Sacrifice.jpg)

With the life of this sheepdog the gods will defeat our enemies!

That is a very strangely shaped altar.

I'm surprised this card didn't end up in group W or something given how much my daughters love animals. They told me that if the house were on fire and they had to choose between rescuing me or the pets, they would get the pets out first (and this is before we started the Dominion card project). We were watching a movie where a bunch of people got killed and then some animals. My daughters didn't get upset until the animals got killed.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on August 02, 2016, 01:04:24 pm
I'm surprised this card didn't end up in group W or something given how much my daughters love animals. They told me that if the house were on fire and they had to choose between rescuing me or the pets, they would get the pets out first.

You know what they say: All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 07:03:37 pm
#55 - Page

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/60/Page.jpg/200px-Page.jpg)

The sword looks a little bent near the hilt. If she only knew the road she were about to travel.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 07:04:46 pm
#54 - Raid

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/89/Raid.jpg/320px-Raid.jpg)

The horse's legs seem a little short. This art is pretty cool.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 02, 2016, 07:07:00 pm
#53 - Laboratory

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0c/Laboratory.jpg/200px-Laboratory.jpg)

One of my daughters thought this looked like the Hogwarts Trophy Room. Another thought this looked like the Lazy Town bad guy. I have no idea what that even is.

One of the guys I played with, before he moved, always called this card Lavatory. It stuck.

I love that hat.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on August 02, 2016, 08:36:47 pm
Another thought this looked like the Lazy Town bad guy. I have no idea what that even is.

Thankfully, I know exactly who that is.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRRwXkOW8AAkRF1.jpg)

He kind of actually looks like Overlord a bit. Maybe I am the villain of Lazy Town.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 03, 2016, 11:05:16 am
#52 - Ball

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/df/Ball.jpg/320px-Ball.jpg)

The lady in yellowish has been doing some serious abs work. I don't think I'd be dancing under that chandelier. It will be putting off some serious wax drippings.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 03, 2016, 11:06:45 am
#51 - Oasis

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fc/Oasis.jpg/200px-Oasis.jpg)

My daughters, the animal lovers, want to know where the camel is.

That's a very nice water feature and chlorinated water.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 03, 2016, 11:09:39 am
#50 - Obelisk

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c6/Obelisk.jpg/320px-Obelisk.jpg)

What's going on on top of the building to the left? They seem to colorful to be statues.

That is the end of group D.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 03, 2016, 07:28:18 pm
#49 - Wolf Den

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/ca/Wolf_Den.jpg/320px-Wolf_Den.jpg)

This is the start of group C, 16 cards.

How cute! I'm the only reason this didn't make group A with my animal loving daughters involved. This is good art but not great.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 03, 2016, 07:30:13 pm
#48 - Storyteller

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/6a/Storyteller.jpg/200px-Storyteller.jpg)

My daughters say the knight and dragon look like Diamond Armor fighting a wyvern in Minecrap, I mean Minecraft. It's another reference lost on me.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 03, 2016, 07:32:10 pm
#47 - Trade Route

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a7/Trade_Route.jpg/200px-Trade_Route.jpg)

The animals have long legs even for mules. I think this is beautiful, peaceful art. I really like it. It almost looks like they are wearing jeans.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 03, 2016, 10:27:23 pm
#102 - Jester

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1b/Jester.jpg/200px-Jester.jpg)

I've always found this picture to be creepy.

I +1 it because it is a Jester-related post.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on August 04, 2016, 01:17:59 am
Quote from: jamfamsam?
#1 - Library

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Library.jpg)

I've always found this picture to be creepy.

I +1 it because it is a Jester (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Jester)-related post.
I did the same for Library (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Library), but I didn't feel the need to brag about it...
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on August 04, 2016, 01:28:28 am
I was scouting for a Jester in my Library
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 04, 2016, 08:37:44 am
Quote from: jamfamsam?
#1 - Library

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Library.jpg)

I've always found this picture to be creepy.

I +1 it because it is a Jester (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Jester)-related post.
I did the same for Library (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Library), but I didn't feel the need to brag about it...

Whatever, man. You are obviously not a real fan  :).
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 04, 2016, 08:38:32 am
#57 - Venture

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ef/Venture.jpg/200px-Venture.jpg)

The monarch practice his hypnotism skills while listening to another crackpot pitch his wonderful idea that would pay back in cartloads if he is just given the chance.

Has anybody else noticed that the Venturer looks like a hobbit?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 04, 2016, 11:04:35 am
#349 - Count

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a1/Count.jpg/200px-Count.jpg)

This is the beginning of group X, 13 cards.

I always assumed the guy on the left was the Count but when my daughters asked me, I wasn't so sure.

Chancellor Palpatine, post-electric shock from Mace Windu, makes an appearance. Either that or Norman Bates pulls out his deceased mother from the backroom. Those are some seriously big hands, particularly the finger.

These two talk while the world burns outside.

This is actually some of my favorite art. That guys armor is amazing.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 04, 2016, 11:06:45 am
#299 - Stash

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/23/Stash.jpg/200px-Stash.jpg)

Nothing wrong with a bag of coins. We were thinking a stash probably ought to be hidden under a floorboard or in the fake bottom of a drawer or something.

What does it say on the stash map? "....rcup?"
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Deadlock39 on August 04, 2016, 11:43:47 am
What does it say on the stash map? "....rcup?"

Clearly it says "buttercup".
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 04, 2016, 11:55:49 am
#46 - Hamlet

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/df/Hamlet.jpg/200px-Hamlet.jpg)

What is Hamlet without a 2B or not 2B reference? We like the toothpick windmill and Santa boots.

I've always really liked Hamlet.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 04, 2016, 11:57:46 am
#45 - Harvest

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1c/Harvest.jpg/200px-Harvest.jpg)

Here are the Amber Waves of Grain referenced in my earlier Pollyanna post of Crown. Yes, jsh, there is a lot of yellow here but what do you expect to find in a grain field?

My daughters thought the grain looked like hair. I don't see it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 04, 2016, 12:02:30 pm
#44 - Young Witch

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9e/Young_Witch.jpg/200px-Young_Witch.jpg)

In what is pure coincidence after jsh comes out of nowhere with his Cornucopia rating after we had all given him up for dead, here is a 3rd Cornucopia card in a row.

ConMan wasn't alone in noticing the similarities between Young Witch and Fairgrounds. At first we thought maybe this was the girl from Fairgrounds, who, after being supremely disappointed by her experience there, decided to become a witch. On further inspection, this is clearly the Farigrounds' girl's younger sister. She had a premonition that the fair was going to be awful and ran off to get the tattoo and pet possum and start her apprenticeship with the local witch. See what a bad fair can do to a person?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: pedroluchini on August 04, 2016, 02:42:06 pm
#50 - Obelisk

What's going on on top of the building to the left? They seem to colorful to be statues.

Fun fact: Statues in ancient Rome were usually painted! (http://archive.archaeology.org/0801/trenches/colorgods.html) That paint didn't survive the centuries, though, leaving only bare stone and marble we see today.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 04, 2016, 06:52:30 pm
#43 - Familiar

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/48/Familiar.jpg/200px-Familiar.jpg)

My daughters weren't sure which being is controlling which. This art is a nice change-up from the typical Dominion card.

For a long time Familiar was my favorite Dominion card. I used to play a lot with my son (who is now gone off to college) and he would never buy Familiar. I would usually destroy him particularly with no trashing in the game. I never could figure out why he would avoid it, but I developed a real liking for the card. In the same way Torturer art embodies the card, for me Familiar does the same.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 04, 2016, 06:55:31 pm
#42 - Advisor

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5e/Advisor.jpg/200px-Advisor.jpg)

I never imagined Wormtongue being bald, but hey, why not? Here he is doing what he does best. The only way to beat him is to give him choices that are all bad for him (and good for you).

This actually looks a lot like Taxman doing double duty. It also looks like he is whispering to a mannequin. I still like it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 04, 2016, 06:58:07 pm
#41 - Lighthouse

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4f/Lighthouse.jpg/200px-Lighthouse.jpg)

My daughters were upset at the shape of the lighthouse. The stereotypical lighthouse for them is round. They want it done right!!!

It doesn't bother me at all. The color scheme goes nicely with the orange border.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 05, 2016, 12:37:46 pm
#40 - Fortress

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/8a/Fortress.jpg/200px-Fortress.jpg)

As with many Dominion cards, I wish it weren't quite so dark. I love the scenery.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 05, 2016, 12:40:24 pm
#39 - Stables

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/35/Stables.jpg/200px-Stables.jpg)

Maybe this card got a little rating bump because it has to do with animals. The guy on the right looks somewhat like the human form of the Beast (Beauty and the Beast).

The hay looks a little prickly and the horse in the stall looks like it's wearing a wig.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 05, 2016, 12:44:35 pm
#38 - Transmogrify

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a9/Transmogrify.jpg/200px-Transmogrify.jpg)

Gandalf summons a ratbird (Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs). This bird looks much better than the nasty ratbirds from that movie.

Anyway, I think this art is really cool (obviously). Too bad I can't give myself a +1 on this.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:44:37 pm
#37 - Haunted Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b7/Haunted_Castle.jpg/200px-Haunted_Castle.jpg)

Sure, it reminds us of the castle from Sleeping Beauty once Malificent put the thorns around it, but we love Sleeping Beauty.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:46:49 pm
#36 - Ill-gotten Gains

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/91/Ill-Gotten_Gains.jpg/200px-Ill-Gotten_Gains.jpg)

This is another fabulous example of art representing an abstract concept. My girls thought it looked like a bunch of foaming insulation coming up under the raven. I love the speared skull.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:48:11 pm
#35 - Dame Natalie

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/85/Dame_Natalie.jpg/200px-Dame_Natalie.jpg)

We really like the lighting here. The artist may have overdone the density of the trees, but it is working well enough.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:50:18 pm
#34 - Contraband

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/58/Contraband.jpg/200px-Contraband.jpg)

We love the colors and detail. It looks like a snow globe on top of the chest. My girls made some comment about the magic carpet from Aladdin, but I don't see it.

That is the end of group C.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:53:07 pm
#33 - Trusty Steed

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/12/Trusty_Steed.jpg/200px-Trusty_Steed.jpg)

This is the start of group B, 17 cards.

Perhaps another card that got a little bump because it has an animal in it. It's a little dark, but a fine rendition of the horse. We'll have to take their word for it that it's trusty.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:55:42 pm
#32 - Farming Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/51/Farming_Village.jpg/200px-Farming_Village.jpg)

My daughters made a comment about Barbie Mariposa because of all the butterflies, but I'm not sure what that is about. What are they farming? Something is off about the woman's neckline, but we're not exactly sure what it is.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 12:57:35 pm
#31 - Vagrant

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3f/Vagrant.jpg/200px-Vagrant.jpg)

Another really dark card. He seems dressed very well for a vagrant. Is this the Caravan Guard in off hours? A Goth teen sulking in the street?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on August 07, 2016, 01:19:17 pm
#36 - Ill-gotten Gains

This is another fabulous example of art representing an abstract concept. My girls thought it looked like a bunch of foaming insulation coming up under the raven. I love the speared skull.
Best art in the game.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 05:20:15 pm
#30 - Overgrown Estate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Overgrown_Estate.jpg/200px-Overgrown_Estate.jpg)

The two dandelion flowers look like eyes.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 05:22:04 pm
#29 - Market Square

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f1/Market_Square.jpg/200px-Market_Square.jpg)

We like the effect of the long shadows.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 05:24:11 pm
#28 - Hero

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/26/Hero.jpg/200px-Hero.jpg)

Hero tops the Page-line art. One of my daughters is still going ballistic over her going into combat with her hair down. It's a valid point, but certainly not worth getting the blood pressure up over.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 05:56:07 pm
#27 - Silk Road

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f6/Silk_Road.jpg/200px-Silk_Road.jpg)

Nice lighting, soft lines, and a great feel make this easy on the eyes. One daughter said the oxen look like overstuffed pigs. Blah, blah.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 05:58:54 pm
#26 - Annex

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/be/Annex.jpg/320px-Annex.jpg)

This is a serious shift in feel from Silk Road. The barbarian warrior on the left is rushing headlong into a spear in the face. This is a very compact battlefield, but how would we know about what battles were actually like back then?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 06:00:28 pm
#25 - Bazaar

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Bazaar.jpg/200px-Bazaar.jpg)

Not sure what the guy just off the foreground is dragging behind him. We might expect a little more of a crowd at the bazaar. Great art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 07:14:53 pm
#24 - Groundskeeper

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/33/Groundskeeper.jpg/200px-Groundskeeper.jpg)

As has been posted elsewhere, we thought her attire is out of the proper time period. The art is great. The gloves and shirt just don't seem to fit. Someone will now post a painting of some art back then showing someone dressed similarly, but that's what we think.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 07:16:17 pm
#23 - Watchtower

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c2/Watchtower.jpg/200px-Watchtower.jpg)

The predominance of cool colors fits nicely with the blue border. We have some weird ghost fog emanating from the tower door.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 07:17:31 pm
#22 - Pathfinding

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/28/Pathfinding.jpg/320px-Pathfinding.jpg)

We used the corrected art, not the original.

It's a little dark. Great capture of the feel of being out in the wild. One daughter said this reminded her of an ad for Assassin's Creed.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 07, 2016, 07:19:30 pm
#21 - Potion

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/67/Potion-new.jpg/200px-Potion-new.jpg)

Top billing for the new base card art. I love this art. My daughters were bothered that the potion is bluer at the top than the bottom and something about the bubbles on the table.

Tomorrow we'll start our top 20.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 08, 2016, 06:47:57 am
#30 - Overgrown Estate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Overgrown_Estate.jpg/200px-Overgrown_Estate.jpg)

The two dandelion flowers look like eyes.

Someone is getting paranoid.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on August 08, 2016, 10:58:27 am
#30 - Overgrown Estate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Overgrown_Estate.jpg/200px-Overgrown_Estate.jpg)

The two dandelion flowers look like eyes.

Someone is getting paranoid.

We are witnessing the collapse of the human mind under the stress of the never finished ongoing series of ranking the Dominion card art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 01:09:10 pm
#30 - Overgrown Estate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Overgrown_Estate.jpg/200px-Overgrown_Estate.jpg)

The two dandelion flowers look like eyes.

Someone is getting paranoid.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 01:09:46 pm
#30 - Overgrown Estate

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/36/Overgrown_Estate.jpg/200px-Overgrown_Estate.jpg)

The two dandelion flowers look like eyes.

Someone is getting paranoid.

We are witnessing the collapse of the human mind under the stress of the never soon to be finished ongoing series of ranking the Dominion card art.

FTFY.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 01:11:21 pm
#20 - Rebuild

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f8/Rebuild.jpg/200px-Rebuild.jpg)

I'd never paid any attention to Rebuild's art until now. It's very good. We love the detail including the giant broccoli stalks in the lower right corner.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 01:14:15 pm
#19 - Pilgrimage

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ee/Pilgrimage.jpg/320px-Pilgrimage.jpg)

The predominance of brown works well here. The random white flower in the lower right is an interesting touch. My daughters want to know where all the gear is. I'm not sure it's a necessary inclusion.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 01:16:34 pm
#18 - Summon

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/ee/Summon.jpg/320px-Summon.jpg)

We love the elegance of the art. Why the butterfly, my daughters ask? I say, why not a butterfly? It fits beautifully.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 01:18:35 pm
#17 - Inheritance

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/02/Inheritance.jpg/320px-Inheritance.jpg)

This could be a scene from Pride and Prejudice or name your other favorite Jane Austin-style chick flick. We all love it.

That is the end of group B.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Donald X. on August 08, 2016, 04:05:59 pm
Why the butterfly, my daughters ask?
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13659.msg523565#msg523565
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 06:48:48 pm
#16 - Beggar

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2f/Beggar.jpg/200px-Beggar.jpg)

This is the start of group A, 16 cards. These are the best Dominion has to offer, heavily weighted by female teenage opinion, of course.

A little dark and a lot of brown. Only a cold-hearted person could pass this guy by without dropping a little coinage in his cup.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 06:50:53 pm
#15 - Cartographer

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d6/Cartographer.jpg/200px-Cartographer.jpg)

Absolutely love the way the lighting is portrayed in this picture. Excellent detail on the maps and tools. This is the guy you'd want to make your maps.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 08, 2016, 06:53:40 pm
#14 - Courtyard

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/30/Courtyard.jpg/200px-Courtyard.jpg)

Is it Snow White sitting by the well singing Someday My Prince Will Come? We love the placement and depiction, nice relaxing place.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 09, 2016, 11:50:22 am
#13 - Village

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5a/Village.jpg/200px-Village.jpg)

Here is the most iconic art in all of Dominiondom.

As we were looking at this card, one of my daughters said, "Oh, this looks exactly like the art on one of your game boxes!"

Yes, Dominion.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 09, 2016, 11:52:05 am
#12 - Opulent Castle

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/55/Opulent_Castle.jpg/200px-Opulent_Castle.jpg)

Reminiscent of the Disney Castle, only much more substantial. This is the castle people dream of living in.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 09, 2016, 11:54:18 am
#11 - Triumphal Arch

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Triumphal_Arch.jpg/320px-Triumphal_Arch.jpg)

Frequently in art like this, the masses of people don't get much in the way of uniqueness. Not so here. Great capture of the mood of triumphal entry.

Down to the top 10 now.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 09, 2016, 07:05:52 pm
#10 - Madman

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/19/Madman.jpg/200px-Madman.jpg)

What's not to love about the eccentricity of Madman? The duck with the eye matching the madman (they say people and their pets start to look similar), the toad, the random skull are all awesome.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 09, 2016, 07:07:11 pm
#9 - Lost City

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/9a/Lost_City.jpg/200px-Lost_City.jpg)

Is it the lost city of Atlantis? Something from the Jungle Book? Temple Run? Who knows, but we enjoy looking at it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 09, 2016, 07:09:00 pm
#8 - Hunting Party

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/ab/Hunting_Party.jpg/200px-Hunting_Party.jpg)

Even though it's a little dark, we love the detail. It's nice that you get to see the hunted animals as well as the hunters and dogs.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 11:14:03 am
#7 - Tomb

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/71/Tomb.jpg/320px-Tomb.jpg)

Beam of sunshine highlighting.... the tomb. Love the contrast. Love the art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 11:16:09 am
#6 - Ranger

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/37/Ranger.jpg/200px-Ranger.jpg)

You've got the pet fox hanging out with her and Bambi, Prince of the Forest, looking on.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 11:18:48 am
#5 - Magpie

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/10/Magpie.jpg/200px-Magpie.jpg)

Great art. One daughter's comment, "I like it, a lot."

Last four will be posted this evening.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: drsteelhammer on August 10, 2016, 11:42:13 am
Does anybody know which card shaped things are still coming?

I'm pretty sure we haven't seen expedition yet, not sure about the others
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: SuperHans on August 10, 2016, 11:51:20 am
Does anybody know which card shaped things are still coming?

I'm pretty sure we haven't seen expedition yet, not sure about the others
I think Expedition, Haven, and Wharf. Not sure what else.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: tim17 on August 10, 2016, 03:31:07 pm
Haunted Woods I think.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 07:06:50 pm
#4 - Haven

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c9/Haven.jpg/200px-Haven.jpg)

Reminds one daughter of the City of Troy. OK. Golden, peaceful, and rich. Very nice.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 07:08:39 pm
#3 - Wharf

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/cc/Wharf.jpg/200px-Wharf.jpg)

In play called by us Lt. Worf.

Love the sunset. Love the imposing ship. Love the cat. Don't know what's with the peg-leg dude, but it's great.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 07:10:41 pm
#2 - Haunted Woods

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/54/Haunted_Woods.jpg/200px-Haunted_Woods.jpg)

I look at this sometimes and wonder why we like it so much but then I look again and I don't wonder. Perhaps it reminds us of the woods in the Pacific Northwest. Don't know, but we love it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 07:13:21 pm
#1 - Expedition

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Expedition.jpg/320px-Expedition.jpg)

That just leaves this one. I'd expect to find this art in someone's office with a cheesy motivational phrase at the bottom. But we won't let that potential usage cheapen the art for us!

The lighting is awesome; the curvature for the waves is excellent. This art is outstanding. I'd hang this on my wall. Epic.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: drsteelhammer on August 10, 2016, 07:15:25 pm
Apparently your daughters like boats even more than animals!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 07:16:58 pm
Well, it's all done.

Some of you doubted it would actually be completed. Most of you couldn't care less. Some of you may have even wished that it would all just stop and go away.

I would like to thank my daughters for their time and effort. Thanks to Donald for creating such an awesome game. Thanks to the artists for putting the work out there and giving us cool stuff to look at and talk about (and yes, pick at). Thanks to you who have followed along, and thanks to all of you who have posted for keeping things at a level appropriate for my daughters to read.

I will post a few statistical things as a follow up, but that is the end of the regular art postings, at least until the next set comes out.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: J Reggie on August 10, 2016, 08:16:55 pm
Thanks for the art rankings! I like that the top four are all similar in functionality as well! How are you going to fit the next expansion into this?  ;)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 10, 2016, 08:40:17 pm
Thanks for the art rankings! I like that the top four are all similar in functionality as well! How are you going to fit the next expansion into this?  ;)

Probably just rate the new cards, adjust the groups, and then post lists of the groups only providing commentary on the new cards.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on August 10, 2016, 08:54:15 pm
#1 - Expedition

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Expedition.jpg/320px-Expedition.jpg)

That just leaves this one. I'd expect to find this art in someone's office with a cheesy motivational phrase at the bottom. But we won't let that potential usage cheapen the art for us!

One might interpret Expedition's text as a motivational phrase. "Draw two extra cards for your next hand" could be paraphrased to "aim high" or "make the best out of your resources."
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: singletee on August 10, 2016, 08:56:31 pm
#1 - Expedition

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Expedition.jpg/320px-Expedition.jpg)

That just leaves this one. I'd expect to find this art in someone's office with a cheesy motivational phrase at the bottom. But we won't let that potential usage cheapen the art for us!

One might interpret Expedition's text as a motivational phrase. "Draw two extra cards for your next hand" could be paraphrased to "aim high" or "make the best out of your resources."

Those two extra cards were inside you all along!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: drsteelhammer on August 10, 2016, 09:14:20 pm
5/7 perfect draw
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: madeofghosts on August 11, 2016, 04:45:37 am
Excellent #1 choice.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 11, 2016, 01:01:35 pm
Here are how the sets rank based on average card ranking from worst to first:

Intrigue
Promos
Guilds
Dominion
Empires
Seaside
New Base Cards
Hinterlands
Prosperity
Adventures
Dark Ages
Alchemy
Cornucopia

Of course the New Base Cards and the Promos have a small sample size, but there you have it.


Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Haddock on August 11, 2016, 01:12:09 pm
Epic work, jamfamsam and daughters. :)  Great rankings.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 12, 2016, 11:35:57 am
#328 - Mountebank

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/89/Mountebank.jpg/200px-Mountebank.jpg)

This is another card that I thought was middle of the road. My daughters didn't like the faces but that's about all I could get out of them about this card.

The colors on this card make me think 4th of July.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 13, 2016, 01:15:47 pm
Knights' Line worst to first:

Dame Molly
Dame Josephine
Dame Anna
Knights
Dame Sylvia
Sir Destry
Sir Vander
Sir Michael
Sir Bailey
Sir Martin
Dame Natalie
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 13, 2016, 01:18:04 pm
Castles' Line:

Crumbling Castle
Humble Castle
Sprawling Castle
Grand Castle
Castles
Small Castle
King's Castle
Haunted Castle
Opulent Castle
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 13, 2016, 02:12:09 pm
Artists, no minimum number

This is a list of the artists by average rank from worst to first with no minimum number of pieces of art. Number next to the name is the number of pieces of art credited to that artist.

Maura Kalusky   4
Klemens Franz   1
Raina Kruptz   2
Kelli Stakenas   5
Christof Tisch   4
Kieron O'Gorman   3
Lynell Ingram   11
Jessica Cox AKA Jessi J   17
Jason Snair   1
Matthias Catrein   35
Kim Feigenbaum   1
Colin Throm   1
Alejandro Gutiérrez Franco   1
None   2
Ryan Laukat   22
Doris Matthäus   2
Eric J Carter   10
Michael Menzel   1
Simon Jannerland   3
Tu Pei-Shu   1
Harald Lieske   20
RC Torres   8
Brian Brinlee   7
Marcel-André Casasola Merkle   11
Alexander Jung   2
Alex Drummond   5
Franz Vohwinkel   10
Matthew Tames   1
Marco Morte   19
Elisa Cella   3
Dennis Lohausen   6
Raven Mimura   1
Martin Hoffmann   24
Jacob Corn   1
Lorraine Schleter   6
Garret DeChellis   11
Rom   1
Julien Delval   25
Donald Crank   3
Joshua Stewart   16
Mark Poole   8
Taylor Bennett   1
Jesse Mead   4
Jason Slavin   3
Claus Stephan   22
Kurt Miller   10
Jeff Himmelman   2
Guillaume Ducos   1
Alayna Lemmer   16
Ian Kirkpatrick   1
Lee Smith   1
Kendra Dodsworth   1
Rick Hershey   1
Simon Samuelson   1
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 13, 2016, 02:13:32 pm
Artists, minimum of 4 pieces of art

Maura Kalusky   4
Kelli Stakenas   5
Christof Tisch   4
Lynell Ingram   11
Jessica Cox AKA Jessi J   17
Matthias Catrein   35
Ryan Laukat   22
Eric J Carter   10
Harald Lieske   20
RC Torres   8
Brian Brinlee   7
Marcel-André Casasola Merkle   11
Alex Drummond   5
Franz Vohwinkel   10
Marco Morte   19
Dennis Lohausen   6
Martin Hoffmann   24
Lorraine Schleter   6
Garret DeChellis   11
Julien Delval   25
Joshua Stewart   16
Mark Poole   8
Jesse Mead   4
Claus Stephan   22
Kurt Miller   10
Alayna Lemmer   16
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on August 13, 2016, 02:14:30 pm
Artists, minimum 10 pieces

Lynell Ingram   11
Jessica Cox AKA Jessi J   17
Matthias Catrein   35
Ryan Laukat   22
Eric J Carter   10
Harald Lieske   20
Marcel-André Casasola Merkle   11
Franz Vohwinkel   10
Marco Morte   19
Martin Hoffmann   24
Garret DeChellis   11
Julien Delval   25
Joshua Stewart   16
Claus Stephan   22
Kurt Miller   10
Alayna Lemmer   16
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: AdrianHealey on August 13, 2016, 02:31:40 pm
Poor Maura
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on August 15, 2016, 12:29:45 pm
Poor Maura

His art is pretty persistently criticized in these parts. I can see why, although I don't mind the cartoonishness in small doses.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: madeofghosts on August 16, 2016, 08:41:10 am
The Peasant-Teacher line is much worse in my eyes, but I guess that same artist has done some decent cards too.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on August 16, 2016, 09:07:30 am
Kurt Miller was always my favorite artists. Maybe we should have a poll where we vote for our favorite artists?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: MrFrog on August 17, 2016, 08:36:52 am
Simon Jannerland and Simon Samuelson are the same person.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on September 23, 2016, 10:50:50 am
Are you considering updating this with the new cards? 17 new pieces of art plus the new covers.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on September 23, 2016, 10:30:34 pm
Yes, I will do the new cards. We never did the covers.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on September 24, 2016, 07:24:37 pm
As soon as I have the physical cards in hand, I will begin the process of updating the rankings. It shouldn't take too long once I have them.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 03, 2016, 04:25:18 pm
I should have my update packs on Wednesday. Should I wait for the release of the Sauna promo and do them all together?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Beyond Awesome on October 04, 2016, 03:43:57 am
I should have my update packs on Wednesday. Should I wait for the release of the Sauna promo and do them all together?

Who knows when the promo will be out in America. Could be months.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 05, 2016, 09:47:50 pm
Got my update packs today. Maybe I'll have something out by the weekend.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 09, 2016, 01:05:16 am
So, my original system isn't working well for me in adding additional cards. I've had the four of us rate them and then it's easy enough to sort them into the groups (A through Z) by their average. However, to properly rank them, I'd have to pull out the entire group for each card and have us put them in a relative position. First, this is going to take a lot of time. Second, I think what will happen is that the committee will start wanting to move things around in the group again. I'm not quite ready to go through an entire re-rate. Also, what do I do when the committee no longer exists as it now is?

I think what I will do is just post the cards and name what lettered group they fall into with some comments from the committee and name a few cards that had similar average ratings and their ranks. I'll start posting probably Sunday and have them all done by the end of Monday. I will then spend some time figuring out how to deal with the issues.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 09, 2016, 06:31:26 am
Looking forward too it!
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 09, 2016, 09:07:32 pm
Here we go. 14 cards.

Courtier, Group N (195-208 range), averages near #195 Bandit Fort and #207 Villa

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7c/Courtier.jpg/200px-Courtier.jpg)

They look like they could be in a building on Tatooine. We like the shadowing. He has great cheek bones.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 09, 2016, 10:06:12 pm
Sentry, Group M (194-179), averages near #185 Sir Destry and #191 Armory

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4c/Sentry.jpg/200px-Sentry.jpg)

She could have come right from Minas Tirith (Lord of the Rings). She might be Medusa with a helmet on with that hair and the lighting is unusual.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 09, 2016, 10:09:14 pm
Replace, Group L (178-164), averages near #164 Wedding and #175 Peddler

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/27/Replace.jpg/200px-Replace.jpg)

Who is replacing who here? I'd have to assume the short guy is getting replaced by the tall guy (short people have no reason to live). What's the executioner doing here? It's a pretty harsh way to get let go.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 09, 2016, 10:11:56 pm
Bandit, Group K (163-148), averages near #151 Scouting Party and #145 Bishop.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/46/Bandit.jpg/200px-Bandit.jpg)

This bandit is putting on quite a show. My daughters say she's got some junk in the trunk. They see some strange things.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on October 09, 2016, 10:25:17 pm
Replace, Group L (178-164), averages near #164 Wedding and #175 Peddler
...
Who is replacing who here? I'd have to assume the short guy is getting replaced by the tall guy (short people have no reason to live). What's the executioner doing here? It's a pretty harsh way to get let go.
Did you notice the two guys look the same?  I thought the guy standing (the short guy isn't short -he's on his knees) was going to replace the guy getting exicuted as an imposter.

Also, Sentry should be lower, especially if girls are doing the ranking. That armor is rediculous and she's incredibly skinny except for her boobs.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on October 09, 2016, 11:27:26 pm
Bandit, Group K (163-148), averages near #151 Scouting Party and #145 Bishop.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/46/Bandit.jpg/200px-Bandit.jpg)

This bandit is putting on quite a show. My daughters say she's got some junk in the trunk. They see some strange things.

I don't see anything at all.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: J Reggie on October 09, 2016, 11:31:18 pm
I think the Courtier art got short shrift here.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Haddock on October 10, 2016, 05:35:59 am
Replace, Group L (178-164), averages near #164 Wedding and #175 Peddler

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Who is replacing who here? I'd have to assume the short guy is getting replaced by the tall guy (short people have no reason to live). What's the executioner doing here? It's a pretty harsh way to get let go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANIj1wfMuK4
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 01:18:10 pm
Replace, Group L (178-164), averages near #164 Wedding and #175 Peddler
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Who is replacing who here? I'd have to assume the short guy is getting replaced by the tall guy (short people have no reason to live). What's the executioner doing here? It's a pretty harsh way to get let go.
Did you notice the two guys look the same?  I thought the guy standing (the short guy isn't short -he's on his knees) was going to replace the guy getting exicuted as an imposter.

My daughters also thought the one guy was on his knees. I just wanted to get the short people thing out there although it is a viable alternative.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 01:20:35 pm
Vassal, Group I (132-120), averages near #122 Basilica and #119 Forager.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/0/0b/Vassal.jpg/200px-Vassal.jpg)

There's a lot of orange going on here. I like the faceless masses.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 01:23:46 pm
Patrol, Group H (119-106), averages near #106 Curse and #115 Tunnel.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Patrol.jpg/200px-Patrol.jpg)

This is one skinny dude. The tree trunk is a distraction and he doesn't appear to be carrying any weapons.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 01:26:41 pm
Diplomat, Group H (119-106), averages near #112 Ruined Library and #105 Wandering Minstrel (actually in group G so Diplomat would probably rate near the best of group H).

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/85/Diplomat.jpg/200px-Diplomat.jpg)

This lady reminds me of someone but I haven't been able to put a name to that someone yet. One daughter said she reminded her of the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 01:29:10 pm
Mill, Group F (91-80), averages near #82 Caravan Guard and #87 Legionary.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/10/Mill.jpg/200px-Mill.jpg)

I really like mill. It would fit right into the Village.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 01:33:03 pm
Lurker, Group D (64-50), averages near #58 Trader and #50 Ball.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/f7/Lurker.jpg/200px-Lurker.jpg)

For all the complaints I've posted about Dominion art being too dark, this one is the reverse. Nobody lurks in broad daylight if they don't want to stand out like a sore thumb. She doesn't think anyone is going to notice that knife or the eye patch isn't going to draw attention to her? She needs to find a little darker location to lurk in.

Clearly those complaints weren't enough to drag lurker down in lower depths of art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LostPhoenix on October 10, 2016, 01:55:25 pm
Patrol, Group H (119-106), averages near #106 Curse and #115 Tunnel.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/c/c8/Patrol.jpg/200px-Patrol.jpg)

This is one skinny dude. The tree trunk is a distraction and he doesn't appear to be carrying any weapons.

That looks a lot like the Neuschwanstein castle.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 02:48:26 pm
Artisan, Group B (33-17), averages near #20 Rebuild and #31 Vagrant.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/1d/Artisan.jpg/200px-Artisan.jpg)

It would be physically impossible for her to have her leg up on the table at that angle, but that's what it looks like it is. My girls say her hair is stringy and greasy.

We love the earthy tones. I'm always surprised at how much criticism there is on some of this art that was rated to highly.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 02:51:19 pm
Poacher, Group B (33-17), averages near #29 Market Square and #28 Hero.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/a/a0/Poacher.jpg/200px-Poacher.jpg)

That is not the type of outfit you are going to go out bow hunting in not to mention even wear at all in the time period. She must be one outstanding hunter to have gotten that close to the birds.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 02:52:57 pm
Secret Passage, Group B (33-17), averages near #28 Hero and #33 Trusty Steed.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/b4/Secret_Passage.jpg/200px-Secret_Passage.jpg)

This must be the inside of the secret passage because otherwise it's not that secret.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 02:56:29 pm
Merchant, Group A (16-1), averages near #16 Beggar and #15 Cartographer.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/78/Merchant.jpg/200px-Merchant.jpg)

I can already aniticipate Seprix's comment 'Bad 3-D art'. My daughters really love the detail in the art and she looks a little like Ginny from Harry Potter.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 02:57:57 pm
Harbinger, Group A (16-1), averages near #4 Haven and #7 Tomb.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Harbinger.jpg/200px-Harbinger.jpg)

Is it Mulan? We just like the art.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on October 10, 2016, 03:01:02 pm
Merchant, Group A (16-1), averages near #16 Beggar and #15 Cartographer.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/78/Merchant.jpg/200px-Merchant.jpg)

I can already aniticipate Seprix's comment 'Bad 3-D art'. My daughters really love the detail in the art and she looks a little like Ginny from Harry Potter.

That's not bad 3D art. I'm sure Seprix will agree.
You just made me realize who the art was reminding me of. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 10, 2016, 03:02:18 pm
I wonder if these cards didn't get a little bump in average score because they were considered independently from the remaining group. There's no way to know of course.

Regardless, the quality of the art in these cards is good.

I'll deal with the Sauna/Avanto cards when I have the actual cards. I'll probably have the colored Moat card evaluated relative to the old Moat. The new Platinum is the only other pending new art card, but I'm not sure I'll end up with that one and if it has a big 5 Coin symbol in the middle of it, I will probably not consider it.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 10, 2016, 04:05:44 pm
Poacher and Patrol are wayyy overranked IMO, and Replace and Coutier got less than they deserved.

Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on October 10, 2016, 04:10:34 pm
Replace, Group L (178-164), averages near #164 Wedding and #175 Peddler

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/27/Replace.jpg/200px-Replace.jpg)

Who is replacing who here? I'd have to assume the short guy is getting replaced by the tall guy (short people have no reason to live). What's the executioner doing here? It's a pretty harsh way to get let go.

I assume that the guy on his knees is going to be killed with the guy standing infiltrating the former guy's position. It fits Intrigue very well.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Seprix on October 10, 2016, 04:13:09 pm
Merchant, Group A (16-1), averages near #16 Beggar and #15 Cartographer.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/78/Merchant.jpg/200px-Merchant.jpg)

I can already aniticipate Seprix's comment 'Bad 3-D art'. My daughters really love the detail in the art and she looks a little like Ginny from Harry Potter.

It's not even 3D art...?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on October 10, 2016, 11:20:26 pm
Harbinger...
Is it Mulan? We just like the art.

I just noticed her hair blowing in the wind makes it look like she's moving fast, but the horse she's on is standing still.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 11, 2016, 12:07:57 pm
Could be windy up on that hill....
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Awaclus on October 11, 2016, 12:09:20 pm
I like to think that it's hair gel.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 24, 2016, 06:11:24 pm
I have ordered the Sauna/Avanto promo. Once it arrives, we will post those cards in this same fashion. Probably by the weekend.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: McGarnacle on October 24, 2016, 10:45:33 pm
Diplomat, Group H (119-106), averages near #112 Ruined Library and #105 Wandering Minstrel (actually in group G so Diplomat would probably rate near the best of group H).

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/85/Diplomat.jpg/200px-Diplomat.jpg)

This lady reminds me of someone but I haven't been able to put a name to that someone yet. One daughter said she reminded her of the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.

Looks like a Civ5 leader. Maybe Theodora?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Eran of Arcadia on October 25, 2016, 04:49:07 pm
Looks like a Civ5 leader. Maybe Theodora?

Good thing Gandhi didn't make it onto any of the cards . . .
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Accatitippi on October 25, 2016, 05:26:01 pm
Looks like a Civ5 leader. Maybe Theodora?

Good thing Gandhi didn't make it onto any of the cards . . .

Secret-er History of Empires: the first version of Donate originally affected the other players.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 26, 2016, 11:47:45 am
My order at BGG store has still not been filled for the Sauna Promo (ordered Saturday). Normally they are very quick and they have not responded to my email. Anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Deadlock39 on October 26, 2016, 03:07:48 pm
Yeah, I ordered on Monday, and got a confirmation, but have not seen anything indicating that it has shipped.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: jamfamsam on October 27, 2016, 03:24:27 am
Filled today. They emailed back and said they got swamped with orders over the weekend.
Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on November 16, 2016, 08:17:30 am
#26 - Annex

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/be/Annex.jpg/320px-Annex.jpg)

This is a serious shift in feel from Silk Road. The barbarian warrior on the left is rushing headlong into a spear in the face. This is a very compact battlefield, but how would we know about what battles were actually like back then?
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Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on November 16, 2016, 08:24:19 am
#26 - Annex

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/b/be/Annex.jpg/320px-Annex.jpg)

This is a serious shift in feel from Silk Road. The barbarian warrior on the left is rushing headlong into a spear in the face. This is a very compact battlefield, but how would we know about what battles were actually like back then?
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Title: Re: jamfamsam's art ranking by committee
Post by: LostPhoenix on January 11, 2017, 03:06:44 pm
#158 - Island

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/f/fd/Island.jpg/200px-Island.jpg)

Tucked back behind the tree there we can't tell if that is some cloud anomaly or a giant snow-covered peak rising in the distance. The waves are coming in at one angle and then breaking in another.

I must have missed this ranking. Got Seaside for Christmas and just noticed the mountain for the first time.