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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: Emeric on May 27, 2016, 06:52:31 am

Title: -card token and "Jack All Of Trades"
Post by: Emeric on May 27, 2016, 06:52:31 am
Hi,

in a game on Dominion Online I have a strange behaviour as I consider like a bug, but I prefer asking here before complain on Making Fun Forum. May be my interpretation is wrong.

So My opponent played a Relic so I have my "-card token" on my deck. And in my hand I have a "Jack All Of Trades".
So next turn I played my "JAOT". I gain my silver, I look my topdeck card (because looking is not impacting by the token) and I discard it and I was thinking that I have to apply the end of the "JAOT" instructions who tell me : "Draw until you have five cards in hand."
So I draw one card wich missed because the token and now the token is not more here, but so, I haven't finish the instruction because I have not yet five cards.
So for me I have to draw until I have five cards in hand as my "JAOT" said to me.
But on the Making Fun implementation I didn't draw more cards and finish with 4 cards in hand !

Few turn later I had 3 cards in hand before playing my "JAOT" with a token on my deck and Making Fun implementation end the "JAOT" action with again 4 cards in my hand ! I think it's a bug !

Who is right ? Me or Making Fun ?

Same thing will probably happens with Watchtower and library.
Title: Re: -card token and "Jack All Of Trades"
Post by: Davio on May 27, 2016, 07:01:37 am
I think you should end up with 5 cards in your hand, because drawing is not an atomic action.

Especially with Library which intervenes to let you set aside Action cards.

So JOAT wants you to draw, okay you get to remove the -1 Card token, but still draw to 5.
Title: Re: -card token and "Jack All Of Trades"
Post by: Emeric on May 27, 2016, 07:10:00 am
You confirm what I think, so I will create a subject on the "bug forum" of Making Fun
Title: Re: -card token and "Jack All Of Trades"
Post by: Joseph2302 on May 27, 2016, 08:08:37 am
I think you should end up with 5 cards in your hand, because drawing is not an atomic action.

Especially with Library which intervenes to let you set aside Action cards.

So JOAT wants you to draw, okay you get to remove the -1 Card token, but still draw to 5.
I also agree. You start drawing, remove the -1 card, and then draw to 5.

The -1 card should only affect +n cards.
Title: Re: -card token and "Jack All Of Trades"
Post by: Donald X. on May 27, 2016, 04:32:21 pm
Few turn later I had 3 cards in hand before playing my "JAOT" with a token on my deck and Making Fun implementation end the "JAOT" action with again 4 cards in my hand ! I think it's a bug !
It's a bug. You remove the token instead of drawing, then keep drawing until you have 5 cards in hand.