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Title: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on April 08, 2016, 08:06:47 pm

Yay another bracket!
+3 or more cards and the strongest of the +2 cards and draw-to-X ones.
(strong +2 cards for handsize, not strong +2 cards in general (so no cultist))
Seeds are (roughly) my preference. Go Library!

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

The 15/16 bracket is Courtyard plus the ones that draw less than 3 (or draw up to 6 instead of 7).

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Seprix on April 08, 2016, 08:10:19 pm

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: scott_pilgrim on April 08, 2016, 08:16:31 pm

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: liopoil on April 08, 2016, 08:48:53 pm

Nobles is in too many brackets  >:(

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Deadlock39 on April 08, 2016, 09:09:18 pm

Quote from: liopoil on April 08, 2016, 08:48:53 pm

Nobles is in too many brackets  >:(

Jack of all Trades should be in every bracket.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Awaclus on April 08, 2016, 09:18:52 pm

Quote from: Deadlock39 on April 08, 2016, 09:09:18 pm

Quote from: liopoil on April 08, 2016, 08:48:53 pm

Nobles is in too many brackets  >:(

Jack of all Trades should be in every bracket.

And Sage should go in every field.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: 2.71828..... on April 08, 2016, 09:53:07 pm

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: eHalcyon on April 08, 2016, 10:26:45 pm

This is too many brackets.  I'd call it madness, but it's a month late!

I'm participating in the first one now, and that's enough for me.  Personally, I'm holding out for a Swiss tournament, or an all-out round robin format.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: yuma on April 08, 2016, 10:29:32 pm

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: werothegreat on April 09, 2016, 12:22:03 am

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Chris is me on April 09, 2016, 08:26:20 am

Wow, it is a lot easier to vote for these when you aren't posting from your cell phone at work. No wonder these are so popular.


1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Infthitbox on April 09, 2016, 11:06:22 am

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: schadd on April 09, 2016, 11:14:01 am

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Vault

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Moneymodel on April 09, 2016, 11:16:01 am

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: J Reggie on April 09, 2016, 02:22:44 pm

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer
Yay my other favorite card

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles
Council Room just feels bad, man.

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Willvon on April 09, 2016, 03:02:50 pm

1 Library
14 Smithy

2 Haunted Woods
13 Torturer

3 Journeyman
12 Margrave

4 Wharf
11 Embassy

5 Envoy
10 Catacombs

6 Council Room
9 Nobles

7 Rabble
8 Hunting Grounds

Had to fudge the system a little so vote for 1 of these: (15/16)
Watchtower
Courtyard
Gear
Vault
Ranger

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on April 09, 2016, 05:53:16 pm

1 2 3 4 5 9 7
Courtyard

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on April 09, 2016, 11:34:55 pm

I like posting results:  (The half votes are mine)
1 Library   +7.5   /    14 Smithy   5

2 Haunted Woods  5.5   /   13 Torturer    +7

3 Journeyman  4.5   /   12 Margrave  +8

4 Wharf  +12.5   /   11 Embassy   X
Embassy never stood a chance.

5 Envoy  5.5   /   10 Catacombs  +7

6 Council Room  +6.5   /   9 Nobles  6
I had to break a tie here, but even for me, it's a close one.

7 Rabble  4.5   /   8 Hunting Grounds  +8

Watchtower   1
Courtyard    2
Gear   2.5
Vault   3
Ranger   4
--------------------------------

Next round:

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on April 09, 2016, 11:42:52 pm

15 4 6 10

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: XerxesPraelor on April 09, 2016, 11:51:52 pm

1 13 6 8

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: liopoil on April 09, 2016, 11:52:29 pm

15 13 12 8

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: SirSlugma on April 10, 2016, 12:27:49 am

15 4 6 10

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: werothegreat on April 10, 2016, 01:41:07 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 10, 2016, 07:09:32 am

15 13 6 8
All this voting is ruining my post-respect ratio...

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Awaclus on April 10, 2016, 07:22:59 am

Quote from: ThetaSigma12 on April 10, 2016, 07:09:32 am

15 13 6 8
All this voting is ruining my post-respect ratio...

But it's improving your post/day ratio!

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 10, 2016, 07:25:24 am

Quote from: Awaclus on April 10, 2016, 07:22:59 am

Quote from: ThetaSigma12 on April 10, 2016, 07:09:32 am

15 13 6 8
All this voting is ruining my post-respect ratio...

But it's improving your post/day ratio!

Yes. Yes it is.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: assemble_me on April 10, 2016, 07:33:50 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: microman on April 10, 2016, 07:39:49 am

15, 4, 12, and 8

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Chris is me on April 10, 2016, 09:21:55 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: J Reggie on April 10, 2016, 09:46:55 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: McGarnacle on April 10, 2016, 10:40:52 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Moneymodel on April 10, 2016, 01:08:09 pm

1 Library
15 Ranger
I do love Ranger, but it just hasn't been around as long as Library.

4 Wharf
13 Torturer
Damn this one was close.

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: scott_pilgrim on April 10, 2016, 07:26:16 pm

Quote from: ThetaSigma12 on April 10, 2016, 07:09:32 am

15 13 6 8
All this voting is ruining my post-respect ratio...

The trick is to vote for Library so that you get an upvote from LibraryAdventurer.

(That being said, I think I actually like Ranger better.)

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on April 10, 2016, 07:38:28 pm

Quote from: scott_pilgrim on April 10, 2016, 07:26:16 pm

Quote from: ThetaSigma12 on April 10, 2016, 07:09:32 am

15 13 6 8
All this voting is ruining my post-respect ratio...

The trick is to vote for Library so that you get an upvote from LibraryAdventurer.

Almost +1 for noticing my trend.

Quote from: scott_pilgrim on April 10, 2016, 07:26:16 pm

(That being said, I think I actually like Ranger better.)

but no actual +1 because you didn't actually vote for library...

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Willvon on April 10, 2016, 09:20:40 pm

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 11, 2016, 09:33:13 am

Quote from: LibraryAdventurer on April 10, 2016, 07:38:28 pm

but no actual +1 because you didn't actually vote for library...

I'll just give everybody +1 for voting for ranger!

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: papadjango on April 11, 2016, 10:47:24 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Seprix on April 11, 2016, 10:59:04 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Scion on April 11, 2016, 11:06:35 am

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Infthitbox on April 11, 2016, 11:10:42 am

15 4 6 10

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: navical on April 11, 2016, 11:46:40 am

Library

Wharf

Council Room

Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: yuma on April 11, 2016, 01:11:27 pm

1 Library
15 Ranger

4 Wharf
13 Torturer

6 Council Room
12 Margrave

8 Hunting Grounds
10 Catacombs

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on April 14, 2016, 07:35:40 pm

I guess I should start the next round of this. (I guess I lost my enthusiasm since Library got knocked out.)

Results:
1 Library      7.5
15 Ranger   13

13 Torturer      5
4 Wharf      15.5

12 Margrave     10
6 Council Room  10.5
This is the second time that I broke a tie in favor of Council room.

10 Catacombs     2
8 Hunting Grounds  18.5

Next Round:
15 Ranger
4 Wharf

6 Council Room
8 Hunting Grounds
(If this ends in a tie, Hunting Grounds gets it despite being lower seeded. Council Room shouldn't make it to the final round after being tied 3 times.)

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Seprix on April 14, 2016, 07:42:18 pm

15 Ranger
4 Wharf

6 Council Room
8 Hunting Grounds

Wharf is great, but Ranger is just way cooler.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: XerxesPraelor on April 14, 2016, 07:54:16 pm

15 Ranger
4 Wharf

6 Council Room
8 Hunting Grounds

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Scion on April 15, 2016, 08:45:59 am

15 Ranger
4 Wharf

6 Council Room
8 Hunting Grounds

I'm guessing that Adventures cards are at a disadvantage in these brackets because they're not online yet. 

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on April 15, 2016, 08:47:42 am

Quote from: Seprix on April 14, 2016, 07:42:18 pm

15 Ranger
4 Wharf

6 Council Room
8 Hunting Grounds

Wharf is great, but Ranger is just way cooler.

I agree

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: yuma on April 15, 2016, 08:50:47 am

wharf
hunting grounds

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 15, 2016, 08:51:13 am

15 Ranger

8 Hunting Grounds

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Hugovj on April 15, 2016, 08:54:47 am

15 8

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Infthitbox on April 15, 2016, 09:24:28 am

Whaaarf

Council Room

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: papadjango on April 15, 2016, 09:33:12 am

15 Ranger
4 Wharf

6 Council Room
8 Hunting Grounds

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: werothegreat on April 15, 2016, 09:47:10 am

Ranger
Hunting Grounds

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: McGarnacle on April 15, 2016, 11:48:17 am

Wharf

Council Room

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on April 20, 2016, 12:01:20 am

After a pair of neck and neck battles, Wharf beats Ranger by 1, and Hunting Grounds beats Council Room by 1.


So the final is
4 Wharf
8 Hunting Grounds
1 Library

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: SirSlugma on April 20, 2016, 12:19:36 am

Wharf!  Of course.  Terminal draw was never so fun.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: werothegreat on April 20, 2016, 12:29:42 am

Hunting Grounds - biggest is bestest

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 20, 2016, 07:18:09 am

Library; I used to hate this card but in games with FV or festival it can easily surpass hunting grounds.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Scion on April 20, 2016, 09:36:48 am

Wharf

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on April 20, 2016, 09:39:21 am

Library- I like it more than Wharf or Hunting Grounds.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Witherweaver on April 20, 2016, 09:42:41 am

This guy:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/WorfTNG.jpg)

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Infthitbox on April 20, 2016, 09:43:15 am

Wharf. Not close.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Seprix on April 20, 2016, 10:02:19 am

Wharf.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Chris is me on April 20, 2016, 10:49:50 am

Quote from: Infthitbox on April 20, 2016, 09:43:15 am

Wharf. Not close.

Same tbh

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: liopoil on April 20, 2016, 04:09:52 pm

Hunting Grounds. Wharf is too good, makes it less fun and more swingy sometimes. 4 cards at once is fun too.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: wachsmuth on April 20, 2016, 05:05:25 pm

Hunting Grounds. I'll take any opportunity to vote against Wharf.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: schadd on April 20, 2016, 05:50:15 pm

library

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: theJester on April 21, 2016, 03:42:31 am

Wharf

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: papadjango on April 21, 2016, 09:42:59 am

Wharf

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: XerxesPraelor on April 21, 2016, 11:52:27 am

Wharf

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: singletee on April 21, 2016, 11:58:49 am

Hunting Grounds

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: math on April 21, 2016, 02:53:17 pm

Wharf.  The +Buy is what really makes it amazing.

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: yuma on April 21, 2016, 03:08:51 pm

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/6/6a/Hunting_Grounds.jpg)

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: Willvon on April 22, 2016, 09:58:33 pm

Wharf

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: McGarnacle on April 25, 2016, 09:30:51 am

Wharf

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on April 25, 2016, 08:58:53 pm

Wharf wins!

final results:
Wharf                 12
Hunting Grounds    5
Library                 4

Title: Re: Favorite big terminal draw bracket
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 26, 2016, 07:21:34 am

Dangit, stupid +buy.