Dominion Strategy Forum
Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: GendoIkari on March 02, 2016, 07:04:29 pm
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I just noticed something now that the first treasure-attack exists. The general rule with attack cards and Moat (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Moat) is that "whenever another player plays an attack card" happens before the instructions on the played card are followed. But that's more awkward with Relic (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Relic). Relic says "when you play this". Moat says "whenever another player plays an attack card". As worded, this is 2 events that trigger at the same time, and under normal rules for dealing with that, the effects would be dealt with in turn order. So effect from the person playing Relic would happen first, giving the -1 card token, and THEN the effect from Moat would happen, allowing the person to reveal Moat.
This isn't in the rules forum because I know the correct interaction here; Moat still works just fine. You reveal Moat and are protected from the attack before any of the card's instructions are followed. I don't think there's any confusion over that. I just thought it was a weird thing worth mentioning.
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I think wrapped into this is what happens when you play an Action-Attack with a vanilla bonus token on it. If I Pathfinding Militia, do I draw a card before my opponent can reveal Moat, or at the same time? Not that it really matters all that much.
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We already had this interaction with Moat and Noble Brigand, which says, "When you buy this or play it", the resolution being that all cards have in implicit "When you play this" clause, which happens after everything else has been triggered from the playing of the card.
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I think wrapped into this is what happens when you play an Action-Attack with a vanilla bonus token on it. If I Pathfinding Militia, do I draw a card before my opponent can reveal Moat, or at the same time? Not that it really matters all that much.
Donald answered that one here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13115.msg486541#msg486541): you draw the card first. Or at least, that's assuming that the "when you play an Attack card" on Urchin has the same timing as the "when another player plays an Attack card" on Moat.
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I think wrapped into this is what happens when you play an Action-Attack with a vanilla bonus token on it. If I Pathfinding Militia, do I draw a card before my opponent can reveal Moat, or at the same time? Not that it really matters all that much.
Donald answered that one here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13115.msg486541#msg486541): you draw the card first. Or at least, that's assuming that the "when you play an Attack card" on Urchin has the same timing as the "when another player plays an Attack card" on Moat.
Makes sense. So if there's ever a Reaction to an Attack that does something to your opponent's hand, this will matter.