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Dominion => Variants and Fan Cards => Topic started by: LibraryAdventurer on January 19, 2016, 01:28:02 am

Title: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on January 19, 2016, 01:28:02 am

Thought of this too late for the Adventures set contest, so I thought I'd post it on its own.

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Inventor
Cost $5 - Action
You may draw 3 cards. If you do, at the end of your clean-up phase take your -1 card token. You may trash a card costing at least $3. If you do, +1 Card, +1 Action. If you don't do either one, +$1.

Inventions are expensive and inventors are demanding, but they can produce big benefits.

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: tristan on January 19, 2016, 03:42:48 am

Interesting. In the absence of gainers it is more or less unplayable (unless the Kingdom is such that you direly need a terminal draw which is worse than a Smithy but costs more) but with gainers the card does shine without being overpowered.

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on January 19, 2016, 07:31:54 pm

hm. Maybe it could be "If you don't do either one, gain a silver (into your hand?)."

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: faust on January 19, 2016, 07:43:43 pm

I think in general this could cost $4 (the draw option is worse than Smithy), but the problem is it is crazy OP with Fortress

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on January 19, 2016, 08:13:26 pm

I think with "If you don't do either one, gain a silver into your hand", it would be strong enough for $5. That way, as it's most basic, it's an unactivated explorer. But you can sacrifice to make it +4 Cards, +1 Action.

Fortress is fortress. It's ability exists to make other cards crazy in combination with it.

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: GeneralRamos on January 19, 2016, 08:46:30 pm

"Fortress gonna fortress."

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: Gveoniz on January 20, 2016, 06:49:31 am

What happen if you choose to draw but do not draw 3 cards (not enough card in deck, - card token)?  Does it count towards the "If you don't do either one"?

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: GendoIkari on January 20, 2016, 12:22:31 pm

This sounds more like +2 cards, +1 action. Between taking the -card token and trashing a non-junk card from your hand, you net 2 cards, not 4.

Title: Re: Inventor -possible +1 Action, +4 Cards w/drawbacks
Post by: popsofctown on January 20, 2016, 12:25:58 pm

Is the likelihood of a player using their 5$ action as a terminal copper really worth the additional words and confusion on the card?  I thought "if you don't do either one" referred to either the +action or +card on my first couple of reads.  Not that that's a reasonable interpretation, but the 2/10,000 plays where this is used as a terminal copper doesn't seem worth the noise anyway.

Title: Re: Inventor
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on August 10, 2016, 07:33:56 pm

An updated & simplified version of this card:

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Inventor
$5 cost - Action
+1 Card. +1 Action.
You may trash a card costing at least $2. If you do, +2 cards. Otherwise, gain a silver.