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Dominion => Puzzles and Challenges => Topic started by: Biderman on January 14, 2012, 11:52:00 am

Title: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: Biderman on January 14, 2012, 11:52:00 am
What is the corresponding list that follows almost exactly the same rule except for one word?

Montebank, Vault
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: DrHades on January 14, 2012, 02:39:26 pm
Young Witch?
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: Davio on January 14, 2012, 03:38:28 pm
Honorable mention would be Bishop
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: DrHades on January 14, 2012, 04:00:05 pm
Honorable mention would be Bishop

I agree  :)
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: GendoIkari on January 15, 2012, 12:52:55 pm
Ok, I'm lost... not only do I not understand the answer given, or the honorable mention given, but I don't quite understand what the question is asking for. It sounds like it's asking for a list? And, I'm guessing that misspelling Mountebank wasn't on purpose?
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: DrHades on January 15, 2012, 06:04:26 pm
Ok, I'm lost... not only do I not understand the answer given, or the honorable mention given, but I don't quite understand what the question is asking for. It sounds like it's asking for a list? And, I'm guessing that misspelling Mountebank wasn't on purpose?

The "What's Missing?" is a type of puzzle, where someone puts list of cards, that have something in common (and possibly a Honorable Mention for a card that has it ALMOST as the cards) and then asks what is the only other card that is missing from that list. Here are some older examples:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=913.0
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1052.0
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=971.0

As for my answer (and Davio's HM):

The three are the only cards, that gives your opponent an opion to do something when you play the card and be rewarded when you do/punshied when you don't. Bishop is the only other that gives him an option to do someting (Council Room, Governor, Attacks etc. forces your opponent to do it), but he is not reward/punished by doing/not doing so.

Of course it might be wrong and Biderman might be looking for something more tricky  ;D
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: GendoIkari on January 16, 2012, 09:47:49 am
Thanks. I did know about "what's missing" type puzzles and what they are. I just was confused by the wording in the OP, asking for a "list." I think I see now that it was just a mistake, looks like he meant to say "card" instead.

And I always suck at these types of puzzles, I don't think I've ever figured out an answer on my own.
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: Voltgloss on January 17, 2012, 10:03:11 am
The three are the only cards, that gives your opponent an opion to do something when you play the card and be rewarded when you do/punshied when you don't.

Not sure that's right.  Vault doesn't punish the opponent for failing to discard two cards.

I think Biderman may be looking for something different:

Militia, Cutpurse, Goons = List of cards with the text, "Each other player discards [cards from their hands]."  Whereas Mountebank and Vault have the text, "Each other player may discard [cards from their hands.]"

Honorable mentions to the Militia/Cutpurse/Goons list are Sea Hag and Jester, which also state "Each other player discards..." but involve discards from the tops of the opponents' decks, rather than from their hands.
Title: Re: What's Missing (With a twist)?
Post by: GendoIkari on January 17, 2012, 10:34:43 am
The three are the only cards, that gives your opponent an opion to do something when you play the card and be rewarded when you do/punshied when you don't.

Not sure that's right.  Vault doesn't punish the opponent for failing to discard two cards.

I think Biderman may be looking for something different:

Militia, Cutpurse, Goons = List of cards with the text, "Each other player discards [cards from their hands]."  Whereas Mountebank and Vault have the text, "Each other player may discard [cards from their hands.]"

Honorable mentions to the Militia/Cutpurse/Goons list are Sea Hag and Jester, which also state "Each other player discards..." but involve discards from the tops of the opponents' decks, rather than from their hands.

That would explain the word list, instead of the word card. Also, you forgot Torturer.