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Dominion => Variants and Fan Cards => Topic started by: werothegreat on May 01, 2015, 12:23:18 am

Title: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: werothegreat on May 01, 2015, 12:23:18 am
You may have seen my little post (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg485959#msg485959) in the memes thread, and you may have noticed two missing letters, which I was handily able to substitute in Donald X and Doug Zongker for.  However, it does make me wonder why we haven't seen a card name starting with X or Z yet.  I mean, there is the obvious reason that not a lot of words start with either letter, but I think it would be fun to have some cards with X or Z names, particularly if the card stuff fits its name.

So your challenge is to make a fan card with a name starting with X or Z, and make it flavorful enough to justify the name.  This can either be directly from the name, or have it do something similar to a card its name is similar to, like how most +Action cards are different names for towns.

X-words:

Xebec - a speedy, three-masted trading ship
Xenium - an obligatory gift to a visitor (usually a foreign ambassador)
Xoanon - a carved wooden idol
Xylomancy - divination using twigs
Xylophonist - a player of a xylophone

Z-words:

Zealot - a fanatic
Zeppelin - a blimp
Ziggurat - a step pyramid
Zwischenzug - a move made to stall for time

If you find other X or Z words, feel free to use those as well.  :)
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: LastFootnote on May 01, 2015, 12:41:26 am
For Z, Zealot and Ziggurat are good names. Zeppelin could be, depending on the set's theme.

X is much tougher. Xebec and Xenium could be OK. Xenophobe is the only other thing that comes to mind.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: AJD on May 01, 2015, 01:11:28 am
Well…

Zealot
Action–Attack: $5
Trash two cards from your hand. Each other player gains a curse.

Too simple? (Too much like Ambassador?)
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: LibraryAdventurer on May 01, 2015, 01:48:32 am
Zwischenzug
Action - Reserve - Attack
Put this on your reserve mat.
-
At the start of your turn, you may call this to make all players (including you) skip their turn. No one plays cards, no one buys cards, no one discards, no one draws a new hand (because they already have one). Then it's your turn again.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: DLloyd09 on May 01, 2015, 02:17:57 am
Xylographer -- a person who makes wood engravings of text or images -- could be neat and particularly thematic as some sort of Woodcutter variant?

Edit: Since xylographs were used to produce new things like prints, maybe something like one of these?

Xylographer
Action: $5
+1 Card
+1 Buy
+$2

or, perhaps more thematic of turning one resource into another via a xylograph:

Xylographer
Action - Reaction: $4 (this cost is probably not right)
+1 Buy
+$2

--

When another player buys a card, you may trash this and another Action card from your hand. If you do, gain a copy of the bought card.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Orange on May 01, 2015, 10:43:13 am

Zwischenzug - a move made to stall for time

(This kingdom card comes with 10 extra provinces that are not in the supply at the start of the game.)

Zwischenzug
$2 Action
When you gain this, trash it and add a Province to the supply.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Witherweaver on May 01, 2015, 10:55:30 am
Zwischenzug
$2 Action - Reserve
Put this on your Reserve mat.

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When you would shuffle your deck, you may call this, to instead pile shuffle.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: werothegreat on May 01, 2015, 11:30:41 am
Xenium
$4 - Treasure-Attack

$1

When you play this, each other player gains a Copper.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Kirian on May 01, 2015, 11:45:21 am
Xenon
$54 -- No Reaction
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Witherweaver on May 01, 2015, 11:46:55 am
Xenon
$54 -- No Reaction

You win again.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Kirian on May 01, 2015, 12:14:33 pm
Xylophage
$3 -- Action

$2
+1 Buy
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Kirian on May 01, 2015, 12:24:20 pm
Xenon
$54 -- No Reaction

You win again.

I do what I can.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: NoMoreFun on May 01, 2015, 05:04:15 pm
Xenophobe
Action/Attack - $5
+2 Cards
Each other player with 5 or more cards in his hand reveals his hand, and discards a copy of a card in your hand from his hand that you choose.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: AJD on May 01, 2015, 05:09:46 pm
Xenophobe
Action/Attack - $5
+2 Cards
Each other player with 5 or more cards in his hand reveals his hand, and discards a copy of a card in your hand from his hand that you choose.

That seems not that much less powerful than the Pillage attack, and that's a one-shot. What if it was "reveal a card from your hand; each other player must discard a copy of it"? (I.e., you don't get to see what's in their hand before choosing what to make them discard.)
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Marcory on May 02, 2015, 12:18:08 am
Xenon
$54 -- No Reaction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon#Compounds
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Marcory on May 02, 2015, 12:21:24 am
Zoo Action $4

+$2

Reveal two copies of an Action or Treasure card from your hand. Gain a copy of the revealed card.

Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: AJD on May 02, 2015, 02:55:03 am
Zoo Action $4

+$2

Reveal two copies of an Action or Treasure card from your hand. Gain a copy of the revealed card.

This is anti-flavorful!
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: werothegreat on May 02, 2015, 10:08:18 am
Zoo Action $4

+$2

Reveal two copies of an Action or Treasure card from your hand. Gain a copy of the revealed card.

This is anti-flavorful!

Animals usually don't breed in captivity.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: AJD on May 02, 2015, 10:10:05 am
Zoo Action $4

+$2

Reveal two copies of an Action or Treasure card from your hand. Gain a copy of the revealed card.

This is anti-flavorful!

Animals usually don't breed in captivity.

"Zoo" and "Menagerie" mean the same thing; it's Slightly Annoying to have one reward multiple copies of the same card in hand and the other punish it.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Witherweaver on May 02, 2015, 11:58:17 am
"Menagerie" has a specific connotation of diversity. 
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: spiralstaircase on May 02, 2015, 12:03:31 pm
Xenium - $3
Action - Reaction
Gain a spoils from the spoils pile.
--
When you gain a card, you may discard this card. If you do, return the card you gained to the supply, and each other player gains a copy of that card.

There's only one thing in Dominion fit to be a gift for an Ambassador.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Asper on May 03, 2015, 01:46:57 pm
Xenophobe
Action/Attack - $5
+2 Cards
Each other player with 5 or more cards in his hand reveals his hand, and discards a copy of a card in your hand from his hand that you choose.

No joke, i had the idea for a card with this name days ago when Wero first complained about the lack of an X card... I guess it wasn't good enough, and it still isn't great:

Xenophobe, $2, Action
+1 Action
Reveal the top three cards of your deck. Trash any that are not copies of Xenophobe.

-----

About the flavorful Z card, i wonder why nobody thought of this obvious name, yet:

Necromancer, Action, $5
+3 Cards
Gain a card from the trash costing from $3 to $6.
----
Setup: Put the 10 Zombie cards in the trash.


Zombie, Action - Attack, 4$
+2 Actions
Each other player reveals the top two cards of his deck and trashes one costing from $3 to $6.
(This is not in the supply)
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: AJD on May 03, 2015, 01:53:12 pm
I like Necromancer/Zombie a lot, but Necromancer looks too good in comparison to Rogue—+3 Cards vs. +$2. Maybe Necromancer should just be 2 cards?
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Asper on May 03, 2015, 02:08:28 pm
I like Necromancer/Zombie a lot, but Necromancer looks too good in comparison to Rogue—+3 Cards vs. +$2. Maybe Necromancer should just be 2 cards?

Honestly, i didn't put any thought in balance. Is Rogue a good card? I always felt it was rather weak, which is why i didn't really mind Necromancer being better. If you want to make a real card of this, you are probably right, Necromancer compares a bit too favourably. Not sure whether +2 cards is the best fit, but i guess you could try it.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Kirian on May 03, 2015, 02:55:18 pm
Xenon
$54 -- No Reaction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon#Compounds

You know how explaining a joke makes it funnier?

This is the contrapositive of that.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: pacovf on May 03, 2015, 03:01:44 pm
No, the contrapositive would be saying that an unexplained joke is necessarily not as funny as it could be.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Kirian on May 03, 2015, 03:09:46 pm
Any sufficiently unexplained joke is indistinguishable from serious conversation.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: AJD on May 03, 2015, 04:08:59 pm
Zombie, Action - Attack, 4$
+2 Actions
Each other player reveals the top two cards of his deck and trashes one costing from $3 to $6.
(This is not in the supply)

(Also I feel weird with this having a cost of $4 since it's almost the same as Dame Molly, but I guess it doesn't really matter since it's not in the supply.)
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: enfynet on May 03, 2015, 04:41:58 pm
Zombie, Action - Attack, 4$
+2 Actions
Each other player reveals the top two cards of his deck and trashes one costing from $3 to $6.
(This is not in the supply)

(Also I feel weird with this having a cost of $4 since it's almost the same as Dame Molly, but I guess it doesn't really matter since it's not in the supply.)
Having it cost $4* means you can Upgrade you Zombie into a Necromancer!
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Seprix on May 03, 2015, 07:14:09 pm
Xenophobic

Action, $0

Trash everything that isn't a copy of this card.

And conversely...

Xenodochic

Action, $0

Gain a copy of each card in the Supply Pile.

Xerox

Action, $2

Gain a copy of a card.

Xylopolist

Action, $2

Gain a Woodcutter.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: spiralstaircase on May 05, 2015, 07:30:28 am
X - $3
Action
+1 Action
Reveal cards from your deck until you have revealed two treasure maps. Put the revealed treasure maps into your hand and discard the rest.
----
Setup: If Treasure Map is not part of the Kingdom, add it to the Kingdom
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: ConMan on May 05, 2015, 08:43:30 pm
Zoologist
Action - $5
+1 Action
Reveal the top five cards of your deck. You may discard one card from your hand for each differently named card revealed. If you do, put one copy of each card into your hand and discard the rest.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: eHalcyon on May 05, 2015, 09:33:54 pm
Zoologist
Action - $5
+1 Action
Reveal the top five cards of your deck. You may discard one card from your hand for each differently named card revealed. If you do, put one copy of each card into your hand and discard the rest.

The wording is really confusing here.  I think this is what you mean:

Quote
Reveal the top 5 cards of your deck and discard any duplicates.  You may discard cards from your hand equal to the number of revealed cards remaining.  If you do, put the revealed cards into your hand.

The rulebook would clarify that "discard any duplicates" means discarding until there are no duplicates remaining.  That is, if you revealed A, A, B, C and D, you would only discard one A and not both.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Seprix on May 05, 2015, 09:53:05 pm
X

Action, $5

Gain Professor Utonium, Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: ConMan on May 06, 2015, 12:46:02 am
Zoologist
Action - $5
+1 Action
Reveal the top five cards of your deck. You may discard one card from your hand for each differently named card revealed. If you do, put one copy of each card into your hand and discard the rest.

The wording is really confusing here.  I think this is what you mean:

Quote
Reveal the top 5 cards of your deck and discard any duplicates.  You may discard cards from your hand equal to the number of revealed cards remaining.  If you do, put the revealed cards into your hand.

The rulebook would clarify that "discard any duplicates" means discarding until there are no duplicates remaining.  That is, if you revealed A, A, B, C and D, you would only discard one A and not both.
Yeah, basically that. I knew the wording was going to be tricky (and the card is probably broken in many other ways anyway).
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Asper on May 06, 2015, 02:15:52 pm
Mockups!

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150506/preyzh8n.jpg)(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150506/xf4zaz4p.jpg)

I'm actually wondering whether Zombie doesn't scale a bit too harshly... I'm not sure how effective it is to "block" this with Estates or Coppers, either.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Burning Skull on May 13, 2015, 08:55:09 am
Xor, action, $2

+1$
Name a card from the supply costing up to 3.
Look at the top 2 cards of your deck: if exactly one of them is the card you named, gain the copy of it.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: belugawhale on May 13, 2015, 10:54:52 am
Xnor - Action $3

+1 Action

Reveal the top two cards of your deck. If they are both the same card, put them into your hand.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on May 13, 2015, 12:45:59 pm
Zodiac - $4 - Event

+2 Cards. +1 Action. Take another Action phase.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: eHalcyon on May 13, 2015, 12:52:11 pm
Zodiac - $4 - Event

+2 Cards. +1 Action. Take another Action phase.

+1 for the name.  The effect, ehhhh.  Do you get a default action in addition to the +1 action it gave?  If you had actions remaining from before, do those remain?  What about buys and coins?

I think the concept is already covered by Mission, and maybe Coin of the Realm to some extent.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on May 13, 2015, 01:16:05 pm
Zodiac - $4 - Event

+2 Cards. +1 Action. Take another Action phase.

+1 for the name.  The effect, ehhhh.  Do you get a default action in addition to the +1 action it gave?  If you had actions remaining from before, do those remain?  What about buys and coins?

I think the concept is already covered by Mission, and maybe Coin of the Realm to some extent.

I think the card is pretty obvious. You get what it says that you get. You draw two cards. You get one additional action. If you had actions remaining from your previous action phase, you keep those. Taking another action phase does not give you another action. The card doesn't give you a new buy or coins. It doesn't even give you another buy phase.

Maybe it's too similar to mission. It might be even weaker. Basically, I just wanted to be the first to use "Zodiac" and thought, this name would fit an event more than a card.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: belugawhale on May 13, 2015, 02:10:09 pm
Xyzzy - Confusion $0

Nothing happens.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Accatitippi on May 14, 2015, 02:39:32 pm
Xenophobe - Action Attack - 5$
Each other player either gains two Curses or reveals a hand with no Foreign cards.
+2 Actions, +2 Cards, you may not play more Foreign Cards this turn.
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Setup: Randomly pick 3 extra Kingdom Cards to use in this game. These cards and Xenophobe are Foreign.

A sort of reversed young witch. :)
I like that Xenophobes hate each other.

Edit: as pointed out, the world is not ready for my Xenophobists.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: iguanaiguana on May 14, 2015, 04:12:28 pm
I'm pretty sure that xenophobist is not a word and that the word would be xenophobe
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Awaclus on May 14, 2015, 04:19:09 pm
I'm pretty sure that xenophobist is not a word and that the word would be xenophobe

A xylophonist is a person who plays a xylophone. A xenophobist is a person who plays a xenophobe.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Accatitippi on May 14, 2015, 04:49:26 pm
Trusty Zebra - Action 6$
Choose two: +1 Card +1 Action; or +1$ and gain 3 Silvers; or +1 Card +1$; or +1 Action and gain a Silver and put your deck into your discard pile.
(The choices must be different.)
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Aidan Millow on May 14, 2015, 05:45:41 pm
Xenophobe - Action-Duration $5
+4 cards
At the start of your next turn, discard this.
-------------------------
While this card is in play, if you would gain a card that is not a victory card, trash that card instead.

I am surprisingly happy with this...

EDIT: Hadn't looked through and seen the previous xenophobes. Still happy.
ANOTHER EDIT: Added duration so it actually works.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Accatitippi on May 14, 2015, 06:29:07 pm
Last one, then I'll give you back the thread:

Zeitgeist - Action - 5$
Name one of the cards of which there are fewest copies in the Supply among those that still have at least one copy in the Supply.
Either you gain a copy of it, or every other player does.

It can gain Provinces outright at the start of the game!
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: belugawhale on May 15, 2015, 02:24:36 am
Zap - Event $P

Once per turn: If this is your first turn, choose one: Replace a copper in your deck or hand with a silver; Replace an estate in your deck or hand with a duchy; each opponent replaces one of his estates in his deck or hand with a curse.

Zeus - Event $3

+1 Buy
+$P
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: NoMoreFun on August 16, 2015, 09:17:36 am
I love the Necromancer/Zombie concept. I hope to see it in a future expansion as most other mechanics seem to come in 3s.

Graverobber puts your good cards in the trash to get back
Rogue puts other people's good cards in the trash to get back
Necromancer puts good cards that belonged to nobody in the trash




Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: shmeur on August 16, 2015, 07:09:10 pm
Zephyr: Event - 0*
Reveal the top card of your deck.  You may shuffle your deck.

Zen Garden: Action - $4
Discard a card from your hand.
+1 Card
+2 Actions
+$1
(Oasis variant)

Zenith: Action - $2
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may put a card from your hand on top of you deck.

~

Somebody should do "Zoot Suit Riots" or "Xi" IMO.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on August 17, 2015, 06:49:31 am
I love the Necromancer/Zombie concept. I hope to see it in a future expansion as most other mechanics seem to come in 3s.

Graverobber puts your good cards in the trash to get back
Rogue puts other people's good cards in the trash to get back
Necromancer puts good cards that belonged to nobody in the trash

Necromancer and Zombie in their current, past and future forms can be found in this thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9231.msg284777#msg284777). They are part of Asper's collection of cards. Check it out!
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: RelzeriZynx on August 23, 2015, 12:49:45 am
An unbalanced card beginning with X:

X-Ray Vision
$5
Turn your entire deck faced up for this turn. Draw 3 Cards from anywhere in your deck. When your turn is over, shuffle your deck and place it faced down.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: RelzeriZynx on August 23, 2015, 12:57:44 am
Or for a more legitimate approach, here is a custom event card!

Name: X-Zone
Cost:  $6
(This can only be bought once per turn).
Look through the top 5 cards of your deck. Place at least 2 of these cards back on your deck in any order. Discard the rest. All other players must either discard a card or gain a curse for every card that you discard in this way.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: shmeur on August 23, 2015, 03:08:15 pm
Zayn Malik - Action/Attack - $5

All other players move their -1 card token on their deck.
-
When this is in play, all cards that normally cost $5 cost $4.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Marcory on August 24, 2015, 11:54:35 am
You Only Live Once Action $9

+1 Buy

You may play an Action from your hand four times.
-----------------

If this is in play at the start of clean up, then draw three fewer cards during clean up.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: enfynet on December 29, 2015, 12:48:56 am
Xenomorph
$4 Action-Attack

+1 Action

Each player, including you, reveals the top card of his deck and trashes it if it costs $3 to $6. If he does, he gains a Xenomorph. If you do, gain a Curse.

____

Zion
$7 Action-Victory

3 VP
------
You may trash up to two cards from your hand. If you trash any cards, gain a card costing up to $4.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Erick648 on January 07, 2016, 11:58:05 pm
Zitherist
$5 - Action
+1 Card
+2 Actions
You may gain an Action card costing up to $4.
Title: Re: Make a flavorful X or Z card
Post by: Marcory on January 08, 2016, 07:49:17 pm
Zymurgist Action-Reserve $3

Put this on your Tavern mat.
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At the start of your turn, you may reveal a Potion, to call this. If you do, gain a Zivania from the Zivania pile, putting it into your hand.

Zivania Treasure $5*
$4
Take your -1 Card token.
When you play this, return it to the Zivania pile.
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This is not in the supply.

*********************
Zivania, a Cypriot pomace wine, is the only alcoholic beverage starting with an X or Z that I could find on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alcoholic_beverages

And you DID specify that the card had to be flavorful, so here you go.