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Title: Treasure Map collision vs. Scrying Pool...slog?
Post by: CavJes on April 04, 2015, 03:17:20 pm
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Transmute, Chapel, Moat, Scrying Pool, Ambassador, Cutpurse, Pirate Ship, Smithy, Treasure Map, Tactician
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I just played this board with vsiewnar today as part of the league. I opened Potion/Chapel to my opponent's TMap/Chapel, which I understand is viable. We both ignore Ambassador in the face of Chapel. I plan on building a Scrying Pool "engine" of sorts, picking up a Pirate Ship along the way to deal with TMap collision. I considered Tactician but never got around to it as I needed to start scrambling for points once vsiewnar picked up a 3-0 Province lead. I end up trashing my Potion once I get 4 Pools as at that point I'm either buying money or green. I start catching up and hit a few golds and we tie, at a point buying Estate after Estate until I can purchase the last Province to eke it out.

I don't know what is optimal here, but we were both pretty sure we made some mistakes and could've built something tighter. Did I get very lucky for it to be this close? What would you have done?
Title: Re: Treasure Map collision vs. Scrying Pool...slog?
Post by: dondon151 on April 04, 2015, 08:48:44 pm
Treasure Map is not viable in this kingdom. Even SP + Pirate Ship will beat it.
Title: Re: Treasure Map collision vs. Scrying Pool...slog?
Post by: Robz888 on April 04, 2015, 09:56:38 pm
I think you just want to open ambassador / silver and transition into smithy BM or like single tactician and BM. Treasure Map doesn't seem too smart just because your opponent could do Pirate Ship, although I don't think Pirate Ship is very good here, otherwise.
Title: Re: Treasure Map collision vs. Scrying Pool...slog?
Post by: pubby on April 04, 2015, 10:30:14 pm
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Treasure Map is not viable in this kingdom. Even SP + Pirate Ship will beat it.
I don't think it's that obvious. The moats can be really good defense here.

I think vsiewnar's biggest mistake was buying Duchies (and especially estates) over golds.
Title: Re: Treasure Map collision vs. Scrying Pool...slog?
Post by: dondon151 on April 04, 2015, 11:40:29 pm
Quote from: pubby on April 04, 2015, 10:30:14 pm
I don't think it's that obvious. The moats can be really good defense here.

Moats are rarely good defense in 2-player Dominion, and they are even less so when there aren't +actions in the kingdom.