Welcome to Blink Mafia, [player name]!
You are a Townie! You win when all Weeping Angels have been eliminated.
Every night, you may send in an order parsed Look at: [player name]. If you do, and another player does, the player you're looking at will be stoped from performing the night kill that night.
Please confirm by responding to this PM.
Welcome to Blink Mafia, [player name]!
You are a Weeping Angel and by your special new technology, you have taken human form. You win when the Weeping Angels control the majority of town, or nothing can stop this from happening.
During the night and during confirmation stage, you may talk to your partner here: [QT link]
Please confirm by responding in your QT.
Do the weeping angels get to do a normal nightkill if they want to?
Can I be town this game, please?
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Hope it's OK that I'm a newbie.
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Hope it's OK that I'm a newbie.
Hi! No problem, the setup should be perfect for newbies. Just make sure you don't send PMs with the names of your scum partners to everyone.
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Hope it's OK that I'm a newbie.
Hi! No problem, the setup should be perfect for newbies. Just make sure you don't send PMs with the names of your scum partners to everyone.
+1
I am everyoneYes because we are all WanderingWinder, therefore we are all everyone.
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Hope it's OK that I'm a newbie.
Hi! No problem, the setup should be perfect for newbies. Just make sure you don't send PMs with the names of your scum partners to everyone.
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Hope it's OK that I'm a newbie.
Hi! No problem, the setup should be perfect for newbies. Just make sure you don't send PMs with the names of your scum partners to everyone.
I definitely will not pull a reinoe.
And yes, any time is fine with me.
if maybe he had played too much Dominion Onlineunlikely
Hello. This is my first mafia game post.
Wooo!
uh..... Vote: WW!
if maybe he had played too much Dominion Onlineunlikely
okay, so I've been thinking about this setup a little when I signed up, and unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to break it. The first idea I had was to assign players publicly to look at people in order to create IC's, but that has several problems
1) even if someone is successfully roleblocked, he might still be scum, and his partner performed the kill.
2) if we assign groups of 2 (3), it doesn't guarantee that the target is roleblocked if there is 1 (2) scum in the group
3) if everyone's night actions are public, it gives scum the opportunity to double kill freely.
Therefore, as long as both scum are still alive, I think we shouldn't make any night actions public, but instead let everyone decide on its own. In later days, we can figure something out with massclaims. I don't think we need to worry about the double kill if we do that, it seems crazy risky. To me, the double kill thing looks like a mechanic meant to specifically counter such a plan.
If one scum dies early though, then it might be worth to reconsider.
thoughts?
Hello. This is my first mafia game post.Welcome. Vote: Rubby.
Hello. This is my first mafia game post.
Hurrah. Hopefully there will be many more to come!
Now important questions. Are you scum?
Hello. This is my first mafia game post.Welcome. Vote: Rubby.
Funny, I remember you talking about how breaking setups was against the spirit of the game and shouldn't be attempted.
That's good, I'm town too.Hello. This is my first mafia game post.
Hurrah. Hopefully there will be many more to come!
Now important questions. Are you scum?
Nope, townie and glad to be so for my first game.
Hello. This is my first mafia game post.Welcome. Vote: Rubby.
Gaah! I claim doctor! Or maybe jester. How do you play this game?
I never said breaking a setup is against the spirit of the game. What you're probably referring to is how I said utilizing a mod mistake that was not part of the setup, like in holiday mafia, is against the spirit of the game. Obviously you can make the argument that a flawed setup is also a mod mistake, but I still see an essential difference there.
So, no, I'm perfectly fine with breaking this setup, if you know how. In fact, I think it would be awesome.
Nope, townie and glad to be so for my first game.
The first thing you should do is read the setup.
There are no doctors, or jesters, or any conventional PR's in this game. There are just townies and weeping angels, and all townies have the same power, which is looking at someone during the night, as explained in the OP
if maybe he had played too much Dominion Onlineunlikely
okay, so I've been thinking about this setup a little when I signed up, and unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to break it. The first idea I had was to assign players publicly to look at people in order to create IC's, but that has several problems
1) even if someone is successfully roleblocked, he might still be scum, and his partner performed the kill.
2) if we assign groups of 2 (3), it doesn't guarantee that the target is roleblocked if there is 1 (2) scum in the group
3) if everyone's night actions are public, it gives scum the opportunity to double kill freely.
Therefore, as long as both scum are still alive, I think we shouldn't make any night actions public, but instead let everyone decide on its own. In later days, we can figure something out with massclaims. I don't think we need to worry about the double kill if we do that, it seems crazy risky. To me, the double kill thing looks like a mechanic meant to specifically counter such a plan.
If one scum dies early though, then it might be worth to reconsider.
thoughts?
Hello. This is my first mafia game post.Welcome. Vote: Rubby.
Gaah! I claim doctor! Or maybe jester. How do you play this game?
The first thing you should do is read the setup. There are no doctors, or jesters, or any conventional PR's in this game. There are just townies and weeping angels, and all townies have the same power, which is looking at someone during the night, as explained in the OP
oh, and welcome to mafia!
What about pairing off? Isn't scum guaranteed to miss their nightkill unless they get selected together?
Well, I'm sure Faust thought about that.. but, if we ever lynch scum, they can never kill? So we lynch today, down to 8. Four groups of two. If there is two kills, we know one of the group contains both scum, and we'll have six left. So that's like 1/3 chance of finding scum. Say groups A,B,C. Lynch again, say from group A,either town or scum.
If town: Scum is in B or C. SWITCH pairs between those two groups to guarantee no night kill, right? last member of A just chill.
If scum, everyone just look at other member of A, kill the next day.
What if there is no kill? Then maybe we just scumhunt as normal? Not sure what to do when there is an odd number of people.
What about pairing off? Isn't scum guaranteed to miss their nightkill unless they get selected together?
uhm... not sure I get what you mean. Do you mean creating groups of 2 and have them target each other? that doesn't do much, because you need to be locked at by 2 people to be roleblocked.
One thing I'm wondering though is if after each night we massclaim who targetted who.
I agree with SS about the coordinated night action idea - there doesn't seem to be a viable strategy that's likely to benefit us more than it benefits scum.
Regarding this,One thing I'm wondering though is if after each night we massclaim who targetted who.
I'm not sure how much a "massclaim after each night" system helps us. I tend to think that just like with roleclaims in more standard setups, claims are something to be considered/discussed as circumstances warrant. Although the difference here is that it's information we wouldn't otherwise get if the person gets nightkilled. Maybe people who are (or think they are) about to be killed should announce their past targets.
I agree with SS about the coordinated night action idea - there doesn't seem to be a viable strategy that's likely to benefit us more than it benefits scum.
Regarding this,One thing I'm wondering though is if after each night we massclaim who targetted who.
I'm not sure how much a "massclaim after each night" system helps us. I tend to think that just like with roleclaims in more standard setups, claims are something to be considered/discussed as circumstances warrant. Although the difference here is that it's information we wouldn't otherwise get if the person gets nightkilled. Maybe people who are (or think they are) about to be killed should announce their past targets.
Wait I don't get this. We all have the same role, so this isn't like a massclaim at all. It makes sense to me to announce who we targeted the previous night. But we have to realize scum will lie.
Nope, townie and glad to be so for my first game.
why is that?
Yes, we all have the same role, but my point was that previous-target claiming is in some ways like PR claiming. I did note the key difference, but it's still giving information to scum as much as to us - arguably it's giving more information to scum, because they know who's lying and who's not. I don't dispute that there's a place for previous-target claiming - and we can probably be more liberal with it than we would with PR claiming in a standard setup - but we should maybe consider making it a strategic/tactical thing rather than an automatic mass thing.
So, let's break this down logically. Let's say I'm scum, and everyone claims whom he has targeted. Does this help me in any way?
... I don't see how. Unless someone can explain me how it does, I'd actually say let us claim every day.
Hm.. not true. Each townie only knows he looked at Rubby, not that two people looked at him. So the massclaim is needed to make an IC.
At any time during the game, the Weeping Angel faction may choose to double kill. If they do, they may send in two night kill targets for that night. If none if the living Weeping Angels is looked at even by a single town player that night, both kills will be successful. If any of the Weeping Angels is looked at, both kills will fail.
oh, you're right of course.
so, yeah ,that's a scenario where claiming benefits scum. But obviously it's marginal. I still think we should claim every day.
But we can discuss that tomorrow. Let's start scumhunting for now. vote: Awaclus
oh, you're right of course.
so, yeah ,that's a scenario where claiming benefits scum. But obviously it's marginal. I still think we should claim every day.
But we can discuss that tomorrow. Let's start scumhunting for now. vote: Awaclus
I haven't been scummy this game. Unlike a certain someone who was scum in Futuramafia.
oh, you're right of course.
so, yeah ,that's a scenario where claiming benefits scum. But obviously it's marginal. I still think we should claim every day.
But we can discuss that tomorrow. Let's start scumhunting for now. vote: Awaclus
I haven't been scummy this game. Unlike a certain someone who was scum in Futuramafia.
maybe not, but you're annoying.
and how have I been scummy this game?
oh, you're right of course.
so, yeah ,that's a scenario where claiming benefits scum. But obviously it's marginal. I still think we should claim every day.
But we can discuss that tomorrow. Let's start scumhunting for now. vote: Awaclus
I haven't been scummy this game. Unlike a certain someone who was scum in Futuramafia.
maybe not, but you're annoying.
and how have I been scummy this game?
Like I said, because of Futuramafia. :P
In all seriousness though, I think you're suspiciously active and overly towny compared to how you have been in previous games. It's not a strong scum tell, but it's something.
Only one "look at" is needed to prevent the double kill, right?
I think double kill gets much more useful if only one scum is alive
I didn't even think if that would work. Thats really scary!
You could prevent the double kill by doing a circle, but it guarantees you don't roleblock anyone.
That is to say, player 1 on player list targets 2, 2 targets 3, 3 targets 4, etc, wrapping around.
I think rather than full random, we should just target whoever is the scummiest.I agree. All the co-ordinated plans could get screwed up by scum.
I think rather than full random, we should just target whoever is the scummiest.
I think rather than full random, we should just target whoever is the scummiest.
Maybe - and I wasn't saying that full random is the optimal strategy - but the "scummiest read" strategy could get dangerously close to giving our actions away, depending on how forthright we are in sharing our reads (and we don't want to discourage sharing our reads, do we?). Maybe some kind of hybrid.
Maybe - and I wasn't saying that full random is the optimal strategy - but the "scummiest read" strategy could get dangerously close to giving our actions away, depending on how forthright we are in sharing our reads (and we don't want to discourage sharing our reads, do we?). Maybe some kind of hybrid.
I mean that's not so different than regular Mafia... normally there is some kind of Doctor, Cop, whatever, and their actions will be influenced by their reads, and those reads may or may not be public information, and people may be aware of how public they're making them.
I agree.Maybe - and I wasn't saying that full random is the optimal strategy - but the "scummiest read" strategy could get dangerously close to giving our actions away, depending on how forthright we are in sharing our reads (and we don't want to discourage sharing our reads, do we?). Maybe some kind of hybrid.
I mean that's not so different than regular Mafia... normally there is some kind of Doctor, Cop, whatever, and their actions will be influenced by their reads, and those reads may or may not be public information, and people may be aware of how public they're making them.
That's true. Though I wonder if the fact that in this case every single one of us is sort of the PR should change the approach. I mean, maybe we just each make our own decision - no coordinating on the identity of our targets, no coordinating on the method of choosing our targets.
Okay, so our plan is not to have a plan, because scum could caboose it.Not a proper vote, there's not a capital J.
Back to RVS.
vote: joseph2302
Back to RVS.
Back to RVS.
My vote is serious.
Back to RVS.
My vote is serious.
interesting. Just because of futurama?
In all seriousness though, I think you're suspiciously active and overly towny compared to how you have been in previous games. It's not a strong scum tell, but it's something.
So, Joseph is not conceding that he is scum this game. This is totally outside his meta, hence Vote: JosephPeople didn't like me claiming scum. Vote: EgorK for trying to restart stupid scum-claim thing.
So, Joseph is not conceding that he is scum this game. This is totally outside his meta, hence Vote: Joseph
Silverspawn is usually active, though. I'm not quite getting the argument.
vote: EgorK
If you've been lynched often, it makes sense to change your meta no matter your alignment.
vote: EgorK
If you've been lynched often, it makes sense to change your meta no matter your alignment.
That would be sufficient answer if coming from Joseph.
Because we have almost no information so far.
Why not just flip a coin at the beginning of the game?
aaand must resist urge to quickhammer.
With no PR to claim, I'm not really sure what our L-1 policy ought to be. Maybe provide (at minimum) a reads list?
I feel like we're still too early in the Day to have many reads, but that's D1 anyway...
Unvote. Not sure about quickhammer, want more thinking time.
So, like, you agree with me?
But also, why EgorK in particular, other than that he's the person that's at L-1.
I still don't buy the downside in not claiming who we stared of right away during each day. Maybe we can choose an order and make the scummiest-seeming people claim first, or something, or have a mostly consensus townread decide, or something, but that leads to arguing and waiting.
I still don't buy the downside in not claiming who we stared of right away during each day. Maybe we can choose an order and make the scummiest-seeming people claim first, or something, or have a mostly consensus townread decide, or something, but that leads to arguing and waiting.
I'm with you.
We could do something like day1 we go in order of who signed up first.
day 2 we do opposite order?
Something like that?
I still don't buy the downside in not claiming who we stared of right away during each day. Maybe we can choose an order and make the scummiest-seeming people claim first, or something, or have a mostly consensus townread decide, or something, but that leads to arguing and waiting.
I'm with you.
We could do something like day1 we go in order of who signed up first.
day 2 we do opposite order?
Something like that?
Regards, guy who wants to claim last day 2.
I still don't buy the downside in not claiming who we stared of right away during each day. Maybe we can choose an order and make the scummiest-seeming people claim first, or something, or have a mostly consensus townread decide, or something, but that leads to arguing and waiting.
I'm with you.
We could do something like day1 we go in order of who signed up first.
day 2 we do opposite order?
Something like that?
Regards, guy who wants to claim last day 2.
I mean, how about we don't start claiming until Day 2.
Or I can claim first Day 1: I didn't look at anyone~
I mean, I'm a blind monk.
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130113171518/totaldramapolishfanfick/pl/images/5/57/Lee_Sin.png)
(I didn't look at anyone).
soooo whats up?
soooo whats up?
Not much, man. How you doin'?
You.soooo whats up?
Not much, man. How you doin'?
Pretty good!
who do you think is scum?
You.soooo whats up?
Not much, man. How you doin'?
Pretty good!
who do you think is scum?
realtalk though I don't want to get into that again, at least not D1. I'm giving Joseph a D1 pass.
vote: rubby
realtalk though I don't want to get into that again, at least not D1. I'm giving Joseph a D1 pass.
vote: rubby
"I don't want to lynch my partner this early"
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I'm scum.
I'm scum.
Not again. Why do you do this each game?
I didn't. Read the next post, which says everyone is wrong for thinking I'm scum.I'm scum.
Not again. Why do you do this each game?
I didn't. Read the next post, which says everyone is wrong for thinking I'm scum.I'm scum.
Not again. Why do you do this each game?
Yes. Like all the other times (except the ones where I was scum).I didn't. Read the next post, which says everyone is wrong for thinking I'm scum.I'm scum.
Not again. Why do you do this each game?
are they though?
Yes. Like all the other times (except the ones where I was scum).are they though?I didn't. Read the next post, which says everyone is wrong for thinking I'm scum.I'm scum.
Not again. Why do you do this each game?
which was pretty often
This is really not taking off.Need a better engine for your aeroplane then.
Hmmm just thinking about it what is our "role"? we arn't VT's. But we don't really have a role name. What do I call myself?Scum?
Hmmm just thinking about it what is our "role"? we arn't VT's. But we don't really have a role name. What do I call myself?Scum?
I'm tempted to just hammer someone if I get the chance to keep this game movin.Vote: Hydrad. Like this lynch?
I'm tempted to just hammer someone if I get the chance to keep this game movin.Vote: Hydrad. Like this lynch?
vote: awalcus for noticing the problem but not doing anything about it.
So, my vote is on Joseph because reading through his posts I see the most noticeable combination of scumminess (or at least non-townishness) and lack of substance. Obviously it's very little to go on - there hasn't been a large amount of substance from any of us - but that's what I've got.I've got nothing to mention, nothing has happened.
well, my only read so far is a town read on rubby because I get a genuine vibeKind of agree. But I don't like lynching newbies D1.
well, my only read so far is a town read on rubby because I get a genuine vibeKind of agree. But I don't like lynching newbies D1.
Definitely misread silverspawn's post. I have a small scum vibe on Rubby, probably nothing though.well, my only read so far is a town read on rubby because I get a genuine vibeKind of agree. But I don't like lynching newbies D1.
Why would you lynch a newbie anyway just because Rubby happens to be towny?
Rubby sounds somewhat townie to me.
I like Vote: XP. That Awaclus thing was a bit weak.
Rubby sounds somewhat townie to me.I also agree it's weak. Awaclus actually wanted something to happen. Not convinced enough for L-1 though.
I like Vote: XP. That Awaclus thing was a bit weak.
Interesting. I kind of like it, but I wonder how you came up with the targets. You're basically volunteering yourself, EgorK, and Joseph to be targeted, and Hydrad, XP and Awaclus not to be targeted. And Chairs to be probably targeted, and me to be probably not targeted.
yeah, but I'm pretty sure he's town. If you're scum, you have a partner who relies on you and so you feel more responsibility, and are more likely to fight harder.I agree. I might have hammered later today, but still think it was too early.
Maybe we can coordinate claiming by reverse post count or something? That would actually give some motivation to be more active.
Yeah, claiming is definitely good.Agree with both. Would be happy to post first, if people wanted.Maybe we can coordinate claiming by reverse post count or something? That would actually give some motivation to be more active.
I don't think this is good, because it sounds like scum could easily manipulate their positions that way. I think a random order is the best.
I also looked at silverspawn. He was the main person content-wise D1, so I wanted to check he wasn't scum manipulating us.I ignored the plan, as we didn't hit scum, and I thought this was better than checking chairs, on whom I had no read.
So far we know SS did do that shot.We also know that scum didn't try double kill.
Perfect!
Maybe we can coordinate claiming by reverse post count or something? That would actually give some motivation to be more active.
Maybe we can coordinate claiming by reverse post count or something? That would actually give some motivation to be more active.
Well, it would give intiative to post more only for scum as as townie you do not care about order that much
Also I looked at Hydrad as he was first on the wagon
I followed SS's plan and targeted him.
I followed SS's plan and targeted him.
The plan was only supposed to be in effect if we lynched scum.
I wouldn't say that was following the plan...
If we hit scum today - whoever it will be - this is how I think we should do our night Actions:That plan was for if we hit scum, but we didn't. 2 people took the actions that silverspawn had suggested on it, the rest didn't, according to the claims made. It's probably not that important though.
I also looked at silverspawn. He was the main person content-wise D1, so I wanted to check he wasn't scum manipulating us.
So this is not going well. I looked at Joseph.
Egork was my choice
I picked Egork for because I was worried that we would all stack on 1 or two people so I picked someone that I felt like not many people would pick thinking that at most one other person would pick them.
I guess I was more worried then needed that there would be like 3 or 4 people on one person.
I picked Egork for because I was worried that we would all stack on 1 or two people so I picked someone that I felt like not many people would pick thinking that at most one other person would pick them.
I guess I was more worried then needed that there would be like 3 or 4 people on one person.
Why would not many people pick Egor?
So this is not going well. I looked at Joseph.
Why did you choose Joseph?
I picked Egork for because I was worried that we would all stack on 1 or two people so I picked someone that I felt like not many people would pick thinking that at most one other person would pick them.
I guess I was more worried then needed that there would be like 3 or 4 people on one person.
I think scum might be near the end of the declaring, but it's just a hunch. Think no ICs is what scum would want.
I'm thinking if you claim early (Chairs, Joseph, Awaclus) as scum, you say anyone, probably not your partner. The downside of a Town to claim after you having looked at that target is not too great. If you're a later claiming (me, Hydrad, EgorK, Rubby) scum, you get to choose whether you'd repeat a target or claim someone new. I'm thinking you'd simply do the latter: claim someone no one else has looked at. That gives the least amount of information for everyone.
I'm thinking if you claim early (Chairs, Joseph, Awaclus) as scum, you say anyone, probably not your partner. The downside of a Town to claim after you having looked at that target is not too great. If you're a later claiming (me, Hydrad, EgorK, Rubby) scum, you get to choose whether you'd repeat a target or claim someone new. I'm thinking you'd simply do the latter: claim someone no one else has looked at. That gives the least amount of information for everyone.
I think if you claim early, you say silverspawn.
I'm thinking if you claim early (Chairs, Joseph, Awaclus) as scum, you say anyone, probably not your partner. The downside of a Town to claim after you having looked at that target is not too great. If you're a later claiming (me, Hydrad, EgorK, Rubby) scum, you get to choose whether you'd repeat a target or claim someone new. I'm thinking you'd simply do the latter: claim someone no one else has looked at. That gives the least amount of information for everyone.
I think if you claim early, you say silverspawn.
Yeah, but like I mentioned before, there isn't a huge problem if someone watched the guy you claimed. He's not an IC because (1) He could be scum that didn't perform the kill, and (2) one of the people claiming to Look at him could have lied. And if you get lynched and flip scum, people then have to look back and wonder if you'd claim your partner.
For the record, Joseph and Chairs both volunteered to claim first. I don't know if I believe that the scum team would go first and second and both claim silverspawn, though.I don't. I wanted to go first to get bad information out early. chairs seems to be same reason, unless chairs is scum and anticipated that I'd looked at silverspawn, and said it as well.
For the record, Joseph and Chairs both volunteered to claim first. I don't know if I believe that the scum team would go first and second and both claim silverspawn, though.I don't. I wanted to go first to get bad information out early. chairs seems to be same reason, unless chairs is scum and anticipated that I'd looked at silverspawn, and said it as well.
Hmm I could see chairs?
Actually I wonder if its WW...
ok so thought process time.
Lets say chairs is town and WW is scum. How willing would WW be to jump on chairs there? I think its a slightly higher chance that scum WW jumps on chairs like that then town.
sure lets try itVote: WW!
Hmm I could see chairs?
Actually I wonder if its WW...
ok so thought process time.
Lets say chairs is town and WW is scum. How willing would WW be to jump on chairs there? I think its a slightly higher chance that scum WW jumps on chairs like that then town.
sure lets try itVote: WW!
Huh? What if Chairs is scum?
Ooo, so we can just put everybody at L-1, and if they're scum they'll self-hammer, so guaranteed scum lynch!
Ooo, so we can just put everybody at L-1, and if they're scum they'll self-hammer, so guaranteed scum lynch!
I think if you vote for yourself, you'll be at L-1. Go for it!
I think joseph is heading to the "well, scum!chairs wants to make sure he claims SS before anybody else so he comes off not-as-scummy for it". That's an argument I simply don't agree with, as I think scum!anybody really ought to be claiming someone else - maybe their partner, but probably just some random townie that isn't SS (because since they killed SS, it seems reasonable to believe that the folks who claim watching SS will come under unusually high suspicion).This was the way I was going, I agree it isn't actually a good argument. I think early claims were towny.
I'm probably settled on one of Joseph or Chairs for today.Really, because I'm not convinced either of us is. I know for sure I'm not.
I think "settling on" Joseph or myself is the kind of easy out scum wants to suggest to Town.
Well, let's assume for the moment that Joseph is Town (and for the rest of you, since you don't get to see my PM, that I am as well). There's at least one potential easy mislynch there based on "one of them HAS to be lying!" and possibly two if you can keep that ball rolling into the next Day. It's a lynch that people could sheep on based on a surface-sensible argument, one that goes just deep enough for lazy Town (of which I have been guilty in prior games myself) to just vote it and move on. If I were scum, and I thought I'd get a shot to easy-mode two mislynches, I'd run with it.
Well, let's assume for the moment that Joseph is Town (and for the rest of you, since you don't get to see my PM, that I am as well). There's at least one potential easy mislynch there based on "one of them HAS to be lying!" and possibly two if you can keep that ball rolling into the next Day. It's a lynch that people could sheep on based on a surface-sensible argument, one that goes just deep enough for lazy Town (of which I have been guilty in prior games myself) to just vote it and move on. If I were scum, and I thought I'd get a shot to easy-mode two mislynches, I'd run with it.
Well, that's only if both of you are town. I very much doubt that it is the case.
Well, let's assume for the moment that Joseph is Town (and for the rest of you, since you don't get to see my PM, that I am as well). There's at least one potential easy mislynch there based on "one of them HAS to be lying!" and possibly two if you can keep that ball rolling into the next Day. It's a lynch that people could sheep on based on a surface-sensible argument, one that goes just deep enough for lazy Town (of which I have been guilty in prior games myself) to just vote it and move on. If I were scum, and I thought I'd get a shot to easy-mode two mislynches, I'd run with it.
Well, that's only if both of you are town. I very much doubt that it is the case.
Why? Statistically, we're more likely to be Town than scum (I bet I can worfram alpha the numbers on this, given enough patience to figure out the proper context).
Well, let's assume for the moment that Joseph is Town (and for the rest of you, since you don't get to see my PM, that I am as well). There's at least one potential easy mislynch there based on "one of them HAS to be lying!" and possibly two if you can keep that ball rolling into the next Day. It's a lynch that people could sheep on based on a surface-sensible argument, one that goes just deep enough for lazy Town (of which I have been guilty in prior games myself) to just vote it and move on. If I were scum, and I thought I'd get a shot to easy-mode two mislynches, I'd run with it.
Well, that's only if both of you are town. I very much doubt that it is the case.
Why? Statistically, we're more likely to be Town than scum (I bet I can worfram alpha the numbers on this, given enough patience to figure out the proper context).
Because you're super scummy.
Well, let's assume for the moment that Joseph is Town (and for the rest of you, since you don't get to see my PM, that I am as well). There's at least one potential easy mislynch there based on "one of them HAS to be lying!" and possibly two if you can keep that ball rolling into the next Day. It's a lynch that people could sheep on based on a surface-sensible argument, one that goes just deep enough for lazy Town (of which I have been guilty in prior games myself) to just vote it and move on. If I were scum, and I thought I'd get a shot to easy-mode two mislynches, I'd run with it.
Well, that's only if both of you are town. I very much doubt that it is the case.
Why? Statistically, we're more likely to be Town than scum (I bet I can worfram alpha the numbers on this, given enough patience to figure out the proper context).
Because you're super scummy.
Why?
AND ACTION.Just under 2 days, 42 hours I believe. Vote: Rubby. Just a gut.
Also 2 ish days left I think.
I suggest people start putting votes on someone if you havn't already.
Unvote
I'm not all that thrilled with Chairs
Wait let me find my cares... what's this? I can't find any. Oh, right, that's because I don't care!
Unvote
I'm not all that thrilled with Chairs
Well, let's assume for the moment that Joseph is Town (and for the rest of you, since you don't get to see my PM, that I am as well). There's at least one potential easy mislynch there based on "one of them HAS to be lying!" and possibly two if you can keep that ball rolling into the next Day. It's a lynch that people could sheep on based on a surface-sensible argument, one that goes just deep enough for lazy Town (of which I have been guilty in prior games myself) to just vote it and move on. If I were scum, and I thought I'd get a shot to easy-mode two mislynches, I'd run with it.
Unvote
I'm not all that thrilled with Chairs
Why not?
well, my only read so far is a town read on rubby because I get a genuine vibeKind of agree. But I don't like lynching newbies D1.
Definitely misread silverspawn's post. I have a small scum vibe on Rubby, probably nothing though.well, my only read so far is a town read on rubby because I get a genuine vibeKind of agree. But I don't like lynching newbies D1.
Why would you lynch a newbie anyway just because Rubby happens to be towny?
I don't want to be lynched because of a mistake I made posting when tired. I think Vote: WW seem okay right now. I still think chairs is town.
I'm referring to this:I don't want to be lynched because of a mistake I made posting when tired. I think Vote: WW seem okay right now. I still think chairs is town.
What mistake are you referring to? Implying Chairs might be scum?
Definitely misread silverspawn's post. I have a small scum vibe on Rubby, probably nothing though.well, my only read so far is a town read on rubby because I get a genuine vibeKind of agree. But I don't like lynching newbies D1.
Why would you lynch a newbie anyway just because Rubby happens to be towny?
I don't want to be lynched because of a mistake I made posting when tired. I think Vote: WW seem okay right now. I still think chairs is town.
Meh, looks like chairs won't happen. Joseph isn't a bad lynch, but the Joseph wagon sort of feels like someone (WW?) is trying to deflect from the chairs lynch.
I intend to hammer later if I'm around though.
"I have a small scum read, but don't want to lynch a newbie" seems perfectly fine to me. It's only a weak read, and lots of people don't like lynching newbies unless they seem like obvious scum.I don't want to be lynched because of a mistake I made posting when tired. I think Vote: WW seem okay right now. I still think chairs is town.
Pretty sure you're missing the point of what I said.... the scummy part is not your mistake; it's what you meant to say.
I think chairs is better than Joseph, although I don't think either is very good.Meh, looks like chairs won't happen. Joseph isn't a bad lynch, but the Joseph wagon sort of feels like someone (WW?) is trying to deflect from the chairs lynch.
I intend to hammer later if I'm around though.
Nah.. I'm not against Chairs. Really the worst thing is that explanation for looking at Silverspawn.. it's kind of.. convenient. Do you think Chairs is better than Joseph?
Meh, looks like chairs won't happen. Joseph isn't a bad lynch, but the Joseph wagon sort of feels like someone (WW?) is trying to deflect from the chairs lynch.
I intend to hammer later if I'm around though.
Meh, looks like chairs won't happen. Joseph isn't a bad lynch, but the Joseph wagon sort of feels like someone (WW?) is trying to deflect from the chairs lynch.
I intend to hammer later if I'm around though.
You think someone on the Joseph wagon is Chairs' partner? WW went after Chairs quickly on Day 2, and I have found Chairs' Day 2 posts suspicious. And, where is Chairs?
Anyway, my reads are not super strong. I'm not dead set on staying on Joseph. But we need to lynch someone, like, immediately.
Chairs and Egor? That's my best guess.
Sooooo I still think its WW and am actually starting to think rubby also. I don't know most time when its someones first game they seem really towny. Rubby has just kinda felt in the middle for me.
I feel like egork doesn't lurk this much if scum.
Yeah, I don't think we really have much info here.
I guess.. I don't know. I don't have any good ideas.
It's very simple - I know I'm Town. I don't know Egork is Town. It's Lylo and I wanted to make sure we at least had a chance at not lynching Town, which means not lynching me.
I'm thinking Rubby is town though, right? Is there a scum narrative there?
Vote: chairs
also I think the best play for tonights powers is.
Hydrad and Egork target WW. Rubby targets either me or egork. WW targets rubby.
This was if chairs is scum we have a super high chance I think of stopping the kill. If there is a kill we know WW is safe. If not we can lynch WW and still have a chance of winning if town targets scum again at night.
Vote: chairs
also I think the best play for tonights powers is.
Hydrad and Egork target WW. Rubby targets either me or egork. WW targets rubby.
This was if chairs is scum we have a super high chance I think of stopping the kill. If there is a kill we know WW is safe. If not we can lynch WW and still have a chance of winning if town targets scum again at night.
But if Chairs is scum you, like, have to be the partner. I can't see Egor or Rubby.
I propose Hydrad and Egor target WW, and WW and Rubby target Hydrad.
I propose Hydrad and Egor target WW, and WW and Rubby target Hydrad.
I propose Hydrad and Egor target WW, and WW and Rubby target Hydrad.
I'm disagree with this. This means there is either a no kill or scum wins if its egork or rubby with the double kill. if there is a no kill we still have to pick between me or WW.
The other way if there is a kill WW is now a IC. plus it stops the odd chance that you or egork are scum and double kill and win.
I propose Hydrad and Egor target WW, and WW and Rubby target Hydrad.
I'm disagree with this. This means there is either a no kill or scum wins if its egork or rubby with the double kill. if there is a no kill we still have to pick between me or WW.
The other way if there is a kill WW is now a IC. plus it stops the odd chance that you or egork are scum and double kill and win.
Huh? I don't see how Egor can be chairs' partner. And I don't see any remotely possible narrative for me being chairs' partner.
Actually rubby you should at least leave it up to wifom. If you like your plan then do it. But don't 100% it incase egork is scum.
I'm thinking Rubby is town though, right? Is there a scum narrative there?
I'm thinking Rubby is town though, right? Is there a scum narrative there?
So the answer to this is:
Newbie scum goes into Day 3 planning to bus his partner, who the scum team thought would be in trouble for his lurkiness. Is somewhat surprised by the relative lack of interest in an Egor wagon, still decides to put initial vote on Egor because he doesn't want to look scummy by L-1ing chairs so early (and can't count on his partner being there to hammer). Is genuinely surprised by WW's quick L-1ing of Egor and gets jumpy. And gets an amazingly fluky stroke of luck.
I'm thinking Rubby is town though, right? Is there a scum narrative there?
So the answer to this is:
Newbie scum goes into Day 3 planning to bus his partner, who the scum team thought would be in trouble for his lurkiness. Is somewhat surprised by the relative lack of interest in an Egor wagon, still decides to put initial vote on Egor because he doesn't want to look scummy by L-1ing chairs so early (and can't count on his partner being there to hammer). Is genuinely surprised by WW's quick L-1ing of Egor and gets jumpy. And gets an amazingly fluky stroke of luck.
Yeah that Chairs thing coming, like, immediately after your vote was weird. But, then again, if he was trying to quickhammer as scum he should have seen a PPE.
At any rate, I believe I'm policylynching Egor on Day 1 from now on~
At any rate, I believe I'm policylynching Egor on Day 1 from now on~
I hope only if I'm lurking? :)