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Dominion => Tournaments and Events => Dominion League => Topic started by: -Stef- on July 05, 2014, 08:43:10 am

Title: Season 2 has started!
Post by: -Stef- on July 05, 2014, 08:43:10 am
I just created all the groups & threads for season 2.
One day too early compared to the original plan, but that's because I'm on vacation for a week starting tomorrow.

Have fun with your matches everybody!


Some comments on the new groups:
It turned out the new players were stronger then I realized. Free promotions to B were given to Obi Wan Bonogi, Titandrake and e, all new players.
The free promotions to C were given to Warrior & QwertZuiop.
I created an E division, mainly because some players won only very few games last season in D. Also some players specifically asked to be placed in E.
It didn't turn out to become a "group of inactives", because all inactive players from last season decided not to return on their own.
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: soulnet on July 05, 2014, 10:35:51 am
Have you considered than the difference in the ranking between some of the new players put into B and some of the candidates for free promotions from C (not me, but qmech for instance) is really slim? I feel like some priority should be given to players already on the league, unless the difference is really big (like in the case of Obi Wan Bonogi).
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: -Stef- on July 05, 2014, 11:27:31 am
Have you considered than the difference in the ranking between some of the new players put into B and some of the candidates for free promotions from C (not me, but qmech for instance) is really slim? I feel like some priority should be given to players already on the league, unless the difference is really big (like in the case of Obi Wan Bonogi).

Yes I have considered the gap, and the new players were ranked quite a bit higher then the ones staying.
Qmech (#71) got closest indeed, but Obi Wan Bonogo (#18), Titandrake  (#48), e (#42) and also Warrior (#70) were higher on the list.

I wouldn't mind doing it all based on how I feel, and then perhaps I would have distributed the free promotions differently, but that just causes too much discussion. So I didn't consider it important enough to break my own rules here. If you really want to promote, the way to do it is rank #1. If you don't make it, try again next season which will be soon because of the short cycles. The only rule "protecting" people in the League is that you can't get a free promotion into A unless you were in B the season before.
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: Qvist on July 05, 2014, 04:03:51 pm
Have you considered than the difference in the ranking between some of the new players put into B and some of the candidates for free promotions from C (not me, but qmech for instance) is really slim? I feel like some priority should be given to players already on the league, unless the difference is really big (like in the case of Obi Wan Bonogi).

I agree with soulnet and feel really bad about qmech not promoting. He was equally in points and only the third tie-breaker decided that I advanced instead of him. If he would have won the tie-breaker we both probably would have made it. The fact alone that he was tied with the first place should have been enough of a reason to get a free promotion, let alone the fact that he also is pretty high on the leaderboard. Well, now it's too late, maybe something to consider next time.
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: Titandrake on July 06, 2014, 07:17:15 pm
Given the leaderboards at the time the groups were made, I do understand, but I wasn't actually expecting to get straight into B. That came from personal context; my leaderboard ranking is my all-time best, while qmech is still climbing AFAIK.

Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: Obi Wan Bonogi on July 09, 2014, 01:23:14 am
It sounds like I might be taking a deserving spot from someone who looked to be promoted.  Should it prove to be an issue I have no problem starting at a lower level if it's not too late to accommodate that, being both new to the league and pretty rusty having not played much in the past months. 
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: shark_bait on July 09, 2014, 09:48:14 am
The flip side is that I'm sure any C division player who happened to be in your group would feel pretty short-changed.  You would easily be a clear favorite to advance to B and it would be very disheartening as a C player wanting to advance to see such a top-tier player randomly throne into their group.

Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: soulnet on July 09, 2014, 11:47:36 am
The flip side is that I'm sure any C division player who happened to be in your group would feel pretty short-changed.  You would easily be a clear favorite to advance to B and it would be very disheartening as a C player wanting to advance to see such a top-tier player randomly throne into their group.

That is true. I was not referring to OWB as someone to send to C, but mosty the guys that were closer to qmech in the ranking.

Also, as a counterpoint, I think the disheart can be offset by the fact that you can feel more confident on possibly getting extra promotions. If it were me, I would be thrilled to play OWB or any other high ranking opponent I may have. That's the whole point of promoting anyway.
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: hsiale on July 18, 2014, 01:50:30 am
Due to starting a new job and having way less free time for playing I have to sign out from this season and further ones. I haven't played any games yet. I have already informed my group in the scheduling thread. Sorry for trouble, good luck to remaining participants, maybe I'll be back someday.
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: ConMan on July 19, 2014, 11:27:30 pm
Unfortunately, I too will have to withdraw. I was having difficult scheduling my matches already (certainly not the fault of any of my opponents) but things are starting to come up that will make it even more difficult.

I will probably also not be around for the start of season 3, but I will see what happens around the time season 4 is gearing up to decide if I should try again.
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: yed on August 12, 2014, 09:21:49 am
B2 won :) We are first to finish all games :)
Title: Re: Season 2 has started!
Post by: Qvist on August 12, 2014, 11:35:31 am
B2 won :) We are first to finish all games :)

I didn't lose a single match and still didn't advance, I guess 4 ties just wasn't enough. Congrats yed.