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Title: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: AHoppy on March 17, 2014, 07:45:02 pm

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/c/c1/Herald.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Herald) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/a/a0/Militia.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Militia) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/1/10/Duke.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Duke) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/c/c2/Junk_Dealer.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Junk Dealer) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/e/ea/Farmland.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Farmland)
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/1/1c/Cellar.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Cellar) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/d/df/Hamlet.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Hamlet) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/f/f7/Develop.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Develop) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/b/b2/Doctor.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Doctor) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/c/c8/Caravan.jpg) (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Caravan)

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Cellar, Hamlet, Develop, Doctor, Caravan, Herald, Militia, Duke, Junk Dealer, FarmlandAnd here's the log
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140317/log.517f1918e4b07cbd3b35d0c0.1395099270898.txt

So, I opened silver militia thinking of going a caravan BM.  I don't really see anything engine-worthy here or anything that would require the trashing of junk dealer or doctor and I'm not sure what I would want a herald for.  Develop->Duke seems super slow, but who knows, with all those non-terminal 4's maybe?  Anyways, I get my 3rd turn and have 6 with an estate (I'm realizing now that was super lucky) but I decided to turn the estate into a caravan using farmland, which I was then able to do it one more time.  The second time I decided to get gold instead of farmland, but still, having 2 farmlands in a caravan BM deck was enough to pile out 8 provinces in 20 turns.  I'm not sure if this is more a testament to caravan BM, or to the fact that my opponent ignored militia and opted for a bunch of heralds and only had 1 gold...  But anyways, I was mostly just happy to see farmland do well here.

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: Smartie on March 17, 2014, 08:28:44 pm

Slightly surprised that none went junk dealers  :P But considering that the farmland can allow you to trash a dead card to something useful as you have mentioned,  I think that is not a bad move! ;)

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: DG on March 17, 2014, 08:58:12 pm

I don't think farmland is so great here. Gold is so much better than farmland in 3 card hands and this should be a militia game, whatever sort of deck you're building. There are three other trashers to remove estates. Farmland isn't much use if you're going for duchy/duke.

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: AHoppy on March 17, 2014, 09:02:16 pm

yeah... I think what did it was my opponent ignoring militia

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: amalloy on March 17, 2014, 09:30:18 pm

Farmlanding Estate into Caravan early doesn't seem super-appealing to me. It's a lot like just buying a Caravan, since you end up with the same deck composition in the short term. Long-term, isn't it basically just a $2 down-payment on a future Province turn? ie, you can buy a Province for only $6 if you have your Farmland in hand. I think I'd rather just have the Gold, which is worth $3 every time I draw it, than a Caravan and an eventual $2 discount.

Later on, when you want to green anyway, it's a great layaway plan if you can't afford $8 because the Militia keep hitting you.

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: 2.71828..... on March 17, 2014, 10:07:19 pm

Not only ignoring militia, but it is hard to pass up doctor when you open 4 or 5.  With some trashing, you can probably get a pretty potent herald/militia/caravan engine.  Throwing in a hamlet or two wouldn't hurt either to get the +buy.  Going herald without the trashing here is a losing strategy.

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: HiveMindEmulator on March 18, 2014, 12:26:09 am

I think it may be a thing, but probably this isn't the board for it. Farmland is fine with good 4s and big hands, both of which go with Caravan.

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: AHoppy on March 18, 2014, 12:32:28 am

Looking back now, I see that this probably isn't the board for it but I think it *could* work on another board. 

Title: Re: Is Farmland Caravan a thing?
Post by: Titandrake on March 18, 2014, 01:10:22 am

Unrelated, but I just noticed you can set up some fun combos with Develop-Herald.