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Title: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 12:02:28 pm
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140128/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1390928469821.txt (http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140128/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1390928469821.txt)

Just no. He opens Doctor/Potion to get Familiar, I open with silver, he gets it, I don't. He gives me 9 curses before I play Familiar once. I quit.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: sudgy on January 28, 2014, 12:07:09 pm
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140128/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1390928469821.txt (http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140128/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1390928469821.txt)

Just no. He opens Doctor/Potion to get Familiar, I open with silver, he gets it, I don't. He gives me 9 curses before I play Familiar once. I quit.

I one time had horrible luck, got all 10 Curses, and won.

...And my opponent not being that great at the game definitely had nothing to do with it...
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: Kirian on January 28, 2014, 12:18:24 pm
Yeah, I would have resigned at that point too probably.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 12:34:41 pm
And his damn doctor trashed 2 cards with each play. Mine of course hits my Potion on the overpay, and nothing when I play it.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: eliegel34 on January 28, 2014, 03:55:00 pm
Doctor seems to be pretty high variance based on what you draw from the top. You can improve that with deck tracking for the first few turns, but that doesn't guarantee that you'll flip what you guess. It feels like you have to guess Copper the first time unless you are sure there will be an estate in the group.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: Awaclus on January 28, 2014, 03:57:07 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 05:38:24 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.

Ha. Ha. Ha. You're hilarious.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: markusin on January 28, 2014, 06:56:03 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
I was wondering for about ten seconds why it would be good to have Mine hit a Potion. Then ai realized I was confusing its effect with Mint's. True story.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 10:00:03 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
I was wondering for about ten seconds why it would be good to have Mine hit a Potion. Then ai realized I was confusing its effect with Mint's. True story.

I've never once confused the two. It makes no sense. I don't chew spearmine gum, so why would I confuse Mine and Mint. The pictures are totally different, plus Mint has a line and Mine has a block of text.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: markusin on January 28, 2014, 10:09:20 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
I was wondering for about ten seconds why it would be good to have Mine hit a Potion. Then ai realized I was confusing its effect with Mint's. True story.

I've never once confused the two. It makes no sense. I don't chew spearmine gum, so why would I confuse Mine and Mint. The pictures are totally different, plus Mint has a line and Mine has a block of text.
Well gosh, Awaclus didn't post the picture of Mine with its effect. I kinda forgot Mine existed for a moment.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 10:15:31 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
I was wondering for about ten seconds why it would be good to have Mine hit a Potion. Then ai realized I was confusing its effect with Mint's. True story.

I've never once confused the two. It makes no sense. I don't chew spearmine gum, so why would I confuse Mine and Mint. The pictures are totally different, plus Mint has a line and Mine has a block of text.
Well gosh, Awaclus didn't post the picture of Mine with its effect. I kinda forgot Mine existed for a moment.

Yeah that is true that he didn't post a picture. But "e" and "t" are totally different shapes. "t" is line based while "e" is circle based. Are you geometrically impaired?
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: ashersky on January 28, 2014, 10:32:08 pm
Yeah, I would have resigned at that point too probably.

I would have bought the final curse first, because I'm a completionist.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 10:42:57 pm
Yeah, I would have resigned at that point too probably.

I would have bought the final curse first, because I'm a completionist.

Yeah, achievement unlocked.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: markusin on January 28, 2014, 10:58:05 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
I was wondering for about ten seconds why it would be good to have Mine hit a Potion. Then ai realized I was confusing its effect with Mint's. True story.

I've never once confused the two. It makes no sense. I don't chew spearmine gum, so why would I confuse Mine and Mint. The pictures are totally different, plus Mint has a line and Mine has a block of text.
Well gosh, Awaclus didn't post the picture of Mine with its effect. I kinda forgot Mine existed for a moment.

Yeah that is true that he didn't post a picture. But "e" and "t" are totally different shapes. "t" is line based while "e" is circle based. Are you geometrically impaired?
To clarify, I read "Mine" and thought "Okay, how often do I want to duplicate my Potion?". I thought Mine did what Mint did at that moment.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 28, 2014, 11:00:44 pm
Mine of course hits my Potion
Usually, Mine hitting a Potion is pretty good.
I was wondering for about ten seconds why it would be good to have Mine hit a Potion. Then ai realized I was confusing its effect with Mint's. True story.

I've never once confused the two. It makes no sense. I don't chew spearmine gum, so why would I confuse Mine and Mint. The pictures are totally different, plus Mint has a line and Mine has a block of text.
Well gosh, Awaclus didn't post the picture of Mine with its effect. I kinda forgot Mine existed for a moment.

Yeah that is true that he didn't post a picture. But "e" and "t" are totally different shapes. "t" is line based while "e" is circle based. Are you geometrically impaired?
To clarify, I read "Mine" and thought "Okay, how often do I want to duplicate my Potion?". I thought Mine did what Mint did at that moment.

Oh. That's a whole new level of psychological confusion there. I thought it was just a letter thing.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: sudgy on January 29, 2014, 02:36:54 am
It took me this long to realize that "refuse" was spelled "refues" in the topic subject.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 29, 2014, 09:40:41 am
It took me this long to realize that "refuse" was spelled "refues" in the topic subject.

That's a rage typo.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: pingpongsam on January 29, 2014, 09:43:32 am
I often forgo cursing and just absorb all 10 of them while I happily win the game because my opponent thought curses were an autowin and overlooked the fact that buying potions and multiple familiars is often a waste of time.

Not saying that was an option with this board but I probably would have slugged it out because the satisfaction of winning with 10 curses in your deck is worth it.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on January 29, 2014, 09:47:32 am
I often forgo cursing and just absorb all 10 of them while I happily win the game because my opponent thought curses were an autowin and overlooked the fact that buying potions and multiple familiars is often a waste of time.

Not saying that was an option with this board but I probably would have slugged it out because the satisfaction of winning with 10 curses in your deck is worth it.

But if you lose (Which was most probable) then it was a just a really painful game for nothing.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: pingpongsam on February 02, 2014, 10:44:52 am
I often forgo cursing and just absorb all 10 of them while I happily win the game because my opponent thought curses were an autowin and overlooked the fact that buying potions and multiple familiars is often a waste of time.

Not saying that was an option with this board but I probably would have slugged it out because the satisfaction of winning with 10 curses in your deck is worth it.

But if you lose (Which was most probable) then it was a just a really painful game for nothing.

I must be getting more out of playing the game than you are.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on February 02, 2014, 02:24:36 pm
I often forgo cursing and just absorb all 10 of them while I happily win the game because my opponent thought curses were an autowin and overlooked the fact that buying potions and multiple familiars is often a waste of time.

Not saying that was an option with this board but I probably would have slugged it out because the satisfaction of winning with 10 curses in your deck is worth it.

But if you lose (Which was most probable) then it was a just a really painful game for nothing.

I must be getting more out of playing the game than you are.

Yes obviously. I guess I just don't get what is interesting with having a lot of dead cards in my hand and not being able to play anything. Look, this thread was for 1 game. Did you look at the log? yeah, I wasn't going to win it. Maybe I could have had I not gone for Familiars, but probably not because the only trashing was Doctor. Why would any of this somehow make you get more out of the game than me? I don't know, but if you don't frustrated that's great for you. Yippee. I didn't resign the Possession game I had with jaybeez yesterday even though every time he possessed me it was a province buying turn for me, but I never for more than a duchy from his deck despite our very similar decks.

If your post was somehow a joke that I didnt get, then I'm sorry. But if you do think you get more from the game than me, well, I'm not sure what to say. Good for you? I think I get a lot out of the game and that 1 example of me getting annoyed is not a good basis for saying that I don't get anything from playing.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: pingpongsam on February 02, 2014, 02:47:29 pm
I interpreted that to say, "Losing is just a painful experience to be terminated wherein I learn nothing".

I've already stated maybe the winning move was to never go for Familiar to begin with.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: KingZog3 on February 02, 2014, 04:06:07 pm
I interpreted that to say, "Losing is just a painful experience to be terminated wherein I learn nothing".

I've already stated maybe the winning move was to never go for Familiar to begin with.

You interpreted what I said, where interpreted is the key word.

Losing is not a painful experience. But losing when you never had a chance to win is. If I play chess, and with the first ten moves I take my opponent's Knights, a Bishop and Queen, I wouldn't be surprised if they resign. They can sit out the rest of the game, trying not to lose, but at this point they've probably learned all they can. The rest is just ass kicking.

I learned that maybe pure trashing can outrace Familiar (Although I do not think Doctor is good enough to do this). After I resigned, this game of dominion would have just been ass kicking. I don't find it interesting to play a game where I can't do anything due to 9 curses in my deck. Now, maybe you find it fun. Play it then. I don't, so why not move on to the next game? I've learned what I can. Don't always go for Familiar, especially when the only trashing is Doctor. Now I can move on, because there is no chance that I win this.
Title: Re: I refues to play this. 9 curses on me before I get 1 on him.
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on February 16, 2014, 01:09:39 am
I interpreted that to say, "Losing is just a painful experience to be terminated wherein I learn nothing".

I've already stated maybe the winning move was to never go for Familiar to begin with.

You interpreted what I said, where interpreted is the key word.

Losing is not a painful experience. But losing when you never had a chance to win is. If I play chess, and with the first ten moves I take my opponent's Knights, a Bishop and Queen, I wouldn't be surprised if they resign. They can sit out the rest of the game, trying not to lose, but at this point they've probably learned all they can. The rest is just ass kicking.

I learned that maybe pure trashing can outrace Familiar (Although I do not think Doctor is good enough to do this). After I resigned, this game of dominion would have just been ass kicking. I don't find it interesting to play a game where I can't do anything due to 9 curses in my deck. Now, maybe you find it fun. Play it then. I don't, so why not move on to the next game? I've learned what I can. Don't always go for Familiar, especially when the only trashing is Doctor. Now I can move on, because there is no chance that I win this.

I'm with you. Sometimes certain games just aren't fair or fun. I just played this game,

http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140215/log.516ddc20e4b082c74d7cbc04.1392530089105.txt

in which I received 9 of the ruins while the chapel barely hit any of them. I immediately thought of this thread. Not as bad as your game but frustrating nonetheless.