Dominion Strategy Forum
Miscellaneous => Forum Games => Topic started by: TheMunch on February 14, 2013, 06:24:07 pm
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Hey, f.ds!
I am here to gauge interest in running some kind of M:TG Draft with some of you guys. I know that there are a few people that have expressed interest in Magic at one point or another. I recently got Shraeye interested when I dragged him with me to the Gatecrash Prerelease.
So is this something that people would be interested in? Can we get 8 to do a booster draft? Obviously it would be just for fun, and we could use a program like Cockatrice to play matches.
In List:
1. TheMunch
2. Shraeye
3. Axxle
4. Insomniac
5. Grujah
6. Bozzball
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/in I'm all for this! Most recently drafted RTR made a somewhat janky Bant bounce/detain/populate deck that took me to the win!
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Hey, f.ds!
I am here to gauge interest in running some kind of M:TG Draft with some of you guys. I know that there are a few people that have expressed interest in Magic at one point or another. I recently got Shraeye interested when I dragged him with me to the Gatecrash Prerelease.
So is this something that people would be interested in? Can we get 8 to do a booster draft? Obviously it would be just for fun, and we could use a program like Cockatrice to play matches.
What set are we draftin
(/in)
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I would love to draft Gatecrash. I also did some drafting of Return to Ravnica on MTGO but have been having significantly more fun drafting GTC.
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/in
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GTC/RTR/UNH
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GTC/RTR/UNH
Get me a Vanilla Coke Axxle!
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GTC/RTR/UNH
Oh god.
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GTC/RTR/UNH
Get me a Vanilla Coke Axxle!
Darn!
while you're enjoying your coke, I sneak a cheaty face into play
edit: dang wrong set.
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In. I agree, gtc is more fun to draft than rtr, but i'd do older sets too, i hear zendikar, timespiral and rise of eldrazi are superfun. I guess we can play the decks out on mws or something like that?
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One of my favorite drafts was a 6 man where everyone picked 3 different packs that were mutually exclusive, so no one had the a card from the same expansion. Luckily goblins are everywhere and I got passed a goblin recruiter so I just drafted goblin tribal and smashed faces. Woo!
Actually, anyone want to nostalgia it up with original Ravnica? Not sure how good that draft format was though. I'm fine with anything really (if you can tell from my anecdote)
TheMunch
Insomniac
Axxle
Shraeye
Grujah
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I'd cube too if we find a good one.
But I think for the first game GTC is quite good starting point - people know it, and is actually a fun draft format.
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I agree that GTC is a good place to start. I know other forums and such have run drafts so I know its possible, but I need to figure out how to facilitate the passing of the packs, whether a program can handle this or what. I normally play games through Cockatrice. It is the easiest to setup with a better game interface than MWS, but it does have a slightly worse deck building interface (namely I wish it had a way to directly move cards between MB and SB in the deck building screen; you can SB in match though and that works incredibly well... why they cant make something similar work for the deckbuilding interface is beyond me)
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in.
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I agree that GTC is a good place to start. I know other forums and such have run drafts so I know its possible, but I need to figure out how to facilitate the passing of the packs, whether a program can handle this or what. I normally play games through Cockatrice. It is the easiest to setup with a better game interface than MWS, but it does have a slightly worse deck building interface (namely I wish it had a way to directly move cards between MB and SB in the deck building screen; you can SB in match though and that works incredibly well... why they cant make something similar work for the deckbuilding interface is beyond me)
http://tappedout.net/ has a drafting system, it's kind of buggy though.
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SO in.
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I've played Magic IRL with a friend two or three times, and some with one of the digital versions on PlayStation, so I know the basics...I'd like to join if no one minds a beginner to beat up on :)
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TheMunch
Insomniac
Axxle
Shraeye
Grujah
bozzball
Glooble
michaeljb
Let's do this!
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I've played Magic IRL with a friend two or three times, and some with one of the digital versions on PlayStation, so I know the basics...I'd like to join if no one minds a beginner to beat up on :)
I've introduced quite a few of my friends to magic through drafting, I think it'll be fine! Just remember: B.R.E.A.D. Bombs, Removal, Evasive/Efficient, Aggressive/Card Advantage, Dregs. We'll give you more tips on drafting if you need it.
Are people free this weekend?
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I should have some time tomorrow in the morning/early afternoon, and possibly on Sunday afternoon/evening.
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Wait, before signing up - will the games themselves be asynchronous? Not sure I have time for synchronous internet play at the moment.
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Wait, before signing up - will the games themselves be asynchronous? Not sure I have time for synchronous internet play at the moment.
Sync.
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Out. Sorry.
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Unfortunately, I'm out for the same reason as bozzball, sorry :/
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Yeah, this weekend suddenly got bus for me. Sorry.
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This weekend is bad for me as well. Let's discuss format issues and stuff, and then be totally ready to play next weekend!
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Might be in. I'm absolutely terrible at the game, and haven't been keeping up with the recent sets, but I haven't played in a couple years and I kind of want to.
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Actually did 2 8-man drafts in the weekend, lost in semi-finals both times, also realized I suck badly at GTC.
Did rip foil Reckoner though :P.
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Haven't played myself for ages. Not /in, just some observations:
Ravnica sounds like it means "likeness" in some Slavic language.
I have mentioned elsewhere that M:tG has withstood power creep, but I didn't appreciate the dimension of this. I just saw that there's a Pegasus in Ravnica at the mana cost as venerable Mesa Pegasus. Only without banding. Yeah I know banding is outlawed for ages.
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I only want to play with the dexterity and gambling cards. :)
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Haven't played myself for ages. Not /in, just some observations:
Ravnica sounds like it means "likeness" in some Slavic language.
I have mentioned elsewhere that M:tG has withstood power creep, but I didn't appreciate the dimension of this. I just saw that there's a Pegasus in Ravnica at the mana cost as venerable Mesa Pegasus. Only without banding. Yeah I know banding is outlawed for ages.
Actually, a Croat suggested the name and theme, IIRC. In Serbian, and Croatian (which are more-less the same) it means "Plains".
I assume you are talking about 1/3 Pegasus for 2, which is quite bad actually, it is a bit stronger Storm Crow, and it rarely kills anything, it is mostly a blocker or a very slow clock.. ugh.
And powercreep is BS, imho. I am a very new player, but started playing competitively from the start. True, with stuff like Baneslayer Angel and Thundermaw Hellkite creature P/T per CC did go up quite a bit, but from what I see, in "old days" there was a great imbalance with ton of crap cards on one side, and ridiculously overpowered cards on other, while today you have a much more balanced curve.
Bottom line, just look at legacy/vintage staples and compare the number of old and new cards, and you'll see that old ones are dominating those formats.
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ok, disregard my prev comment, thought it was a 1/1 flyer. 1/3 seems not half bad to me.
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From my understanding, what the game designers felt was wrong about older Magic was that creatures were too weak for how fragile they were. Play a spell, you have to counter it or let it happen. Play a creature, you can counter it, or kill it with your own spell, or combat damage, etc.
So, they made creatures stronger and spells weaker. The part I don't really agree with is that they also made removal stronger. There's a developing arms race between creatures and removal. Creatures die more easily, but they often have some benefit on death (Wurmcoil Engine I'm looking at you.)
I think they're aware of this though, and they probably know what they're doing.
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ok, disregard my prev comment
So you're /in?
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ok, disregard my prev comment
So you're /in?
no.
I meant "disregard" as in "assume it was never made", not as in "assume the contrary" :D
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Cooome on, 2 more!
I mean, we can technically do it with 6 too, but it's just not the same..
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If this is happening this weekend I could probably be in. I'm not really great a MTG, haven't really played since Ursa's Legacy, but I can still read on cards. ;) And I do play The Spoils, which is really similiar.
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I can see if I can recruit my brother. He's not an Effdyeser (coining it now) if that matters.
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My brother's willing to play if we need an 8th. Should we get a time finalized?
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My brother's willing to play if we need an 8th. Should we get a time finalized?
Yes.
Is idea to draft in realtime or what?
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My brother's willing to play if we need an 8th. Should we get a time finalized?
Yes.
Is idea to draft in realtime or what?
Definitely draft in real time, otherwise it'd take way too long. Don't care either way when games are played though.
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I'm down Thursday - Sunday, though I will have a DnD night during weekend, which is afternoon in US, but I can afterwards.
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I have a party to attend to saturday evening and I'll probably have an RPG session sometime friday night. I don't really know when either of those will end.
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Hey guys. So whats the current status? I have 6 on listed on the front page and didn't think I missed anyone, but Axxle says his brother is the 8th? If we have 8 I'm down for any day not today.
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I could probably play tomorrow.
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Hmm, i'll recoujt when i get to a computer
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Well no more Cockatrice (got a cease and desist), anyone have alternatives?
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I think the draft part itself would be the hard part, but OCTGN is pretty neat.
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Hey guys. So whats the current status? I have 6 on listed on the front page and didn't think I missed anyone, but Axxle says his brother is the 8th? If we have 8 I'm down for any day not today.
You're missing Lekkit.
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Magic Workstation is old, but still up. I think the only way to make draft work is to have one person (who isn't playing) generate the boosters and handle picks, because I don't know of any freeware program that has drafting implemented. Or you could look at http://tappedout.net/mtg-draft-simulator/, which I found by Googling.
I'm busy this whole week and part of next week, so I can't join.
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Magic Workstation is old, but still up. I think the only way to make draft work is to have one person (who isn't playing) generate the boosters and handle picks, because I don't know of any freeware program that has drafting implemented. Or you could look at http://tappedout.net/mtg-draft-simulator/, which I found by Googling.
I'm busy this whole week and part of next week, so I can't join.
We can have each player generate one booster each and then pass it around via pm or something. and then do the same for the second and third boosters.
I've used tapped out, but it's unforgiving about disconnects and it tends to freeze up for me.
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How about doodle to organize?
Oooor... Can everyone do tomorrow?
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I can do tomorrow depending on the time. I'm pretty busy from 8am-2pm forum time.
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I'm fine with 2 PM.
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I have a meeting at 2:15, but 3 is lunch for me so I can do it then
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Ok so we can use tapped out for the draft. But Cockatrice is down, which is my go to place to play. Whats the next best thing? MWS? If I remember correctly, MWS wasn't great at actually playing games.
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Ok so we can use tapped out for the draft. But Cockatrice is down, which is my go to place to play. Whats the next best thing? MWS? If I remember correctly, MWS wasn't great at actually playing games.
For me, MWS was way better and faster..
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someone go do doodle.com and make a doodle...
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That look two people share when both know something needs to be done but neither wants to do it...
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I'll do that doodle business.
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Also, Axxle, I just finished playing a mafiascum-Newbie game that was ICed by UberNinja. I hear y'all know eachother.
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So the current list is only 7 players
TheMunch (at forum time)
shraeye (at forum time)
Lekkit (FT+6)
Axxle (FT-3)
Insomniac (FT-3)
Grujah (FT+6)
axxle's bro (presumably same timezone as Axxle?)
Possible 8th persons:
bozzball--he's in Barcelona until Mar 6th. And he tried to /out once but we left him on the list)
Glooble--wanted in, then out because he was busy before
michealjb (FT-2)--said he's new but interested. Still interested?
TitanDrake (FT-3)--I think you said you were interested too, but busy until sometime next week, yeah?
What I'm saying is we should get a solid 8 people and try to kick this off sometime this weekend.
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It looks like we have a slight spread of hours, can people out in PST (insom/axxle/Titandrake/etc) tell me how early you could start, and people out in Europe (grujah/lekkit/bozz/etc) tell me how late you can start?
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Also, Axxle, I just finished playing a mafiascum-Newbie game that was ICed by UberNinja. I hear y'all know eachother.
Yep, we met at one of the mafiascum events last summer. (and welcome to mafiascum!)
axxle's bro (presumably same timezone as Axxle?)
What I'm saying is we should get a solid 8 people and try to kick this off sometime this weekend.
Yeah, we're both in FT-3. I probably wouldn't want to start any earlier than 8am our time (11 forum time), I'll ask my brother what he prefers.
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I'm pretty flexible as long as I don't have a long work day the next day.
I don't have any experience with MWS, but I guess it can't be too hard to learn, right? Otherwise, I've mentioned OCTGN before. I know the program and it's really neat. I think there is MTG support.
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Let's see what we can get with this schedule-finder type thing:
http://doodle.com/d4rax6xhnvbwtbu8
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So the current list is only 7 players
TheMunch (at forum time)
shraeye (at forum time)
Lekkit (FT+6)
Axxle (FT-3)
Insomniac (FT-3)
Grujah (where are you on GMT scale? GMT+n is FT+(n+5))
axxle's bro (presumably same timezone as Axxle?)
Possible 8th persons:
bozzball--he's in Barcelona until Mar 6th. And he tried to /out once but we left him on the list)
Glooble--wanted in, then out because he was busy before
michealjb (FT-2)--said he's new but interested. Still interested?
TitanDrake (FT-3)--I think you said you were interested too, but busy until sometime next week, yeah?
What I'm saying is we should get a solid 8 people and try to kick this off sometime this weekend.
GMT +1, I guess FT-4.
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It looks like we have a slight spread of hours, can people out in PST (insom/axxle/Titandrake/etc) tell me how early you could start, and people out in Europe (grujah/lekkit/bozz/etc) tell me how late you can start?
It easier for me to start late than early, I am usually up till very late hours. Not a healthy habit.
That is, if I am not out at the time. I am usually out a night or two during weekends, but still, cant draft after/before that for sure!
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Grujah, I'm at GMT+1 and I'm at FT+6. :-\
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/out, just dont have time for this :(
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If you stick around, Insomniac, I'll be putting up a doodle every week or so until we can get 8 people together simultaneously. Who knows how long that will take.
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gonna be quite hard :s