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Miscellaneous => General Discussion => Topic started by: theory on December 17, 2012, 09:50:31 am

Title: Tennis
Post by: theory on December 17, 2012, 09:50:31 am
I used to be a 3.5-4.0 player back in high school/college, but now I haven't played in five or so years.  But it's still my favorite sport, especially when spectating in person.

To kick things off, Tennis Warehouse's Best of 2012: http://blog.tenniswarehouse.com/miscellaneous/4th-annual-t-dubbies-year-end-tennis-awards/  That Federer drop shot was a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: shraeye on December 17, 2012, 02:44:06 pm
Yay, I'm a huge tennis fan.  I currently play at 4.0 level, after having not played for about 6 years due to shoulder troubles.  Love watching all the majors, early round play too.  I'm excited for another Aussie Open, and days on end of staying up to 5am!
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Captain_Frisk on December 17, 2012, 02:48:09 pm
I am very disappointed to learn that this scale is totally subjective.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: shraeye on December 17, 2012, 02:49:57 pm
I am very disappointed to learn that this scale is totally subjective.
The rating scale?  For league play you can self-rate in the beginning, but your record will dictate whether your rating should move up or down.  It will normalize as one plays more.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Captain_Frisk on December 17, 2012, 02:51:11 pm
I am very disappointed to learn that this scale is totally subjective.
The rating scale?  For league play you can self-rate in the beginning, but your record will dictate whether your rating should move up or down.  It will normalize as one plays more.

How does it go up or down?
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: theory on December 17, 2012, 02:55:56 pm
The scale is mostly a way for people to find like hitting partners.  There's not much benefit to overstating your rating since that just means you get matched with people too good for you.

It's also not very precise (i.e., when I was at my 4.0 peak, it would have taken at least a year or two of training to get to 5.0).  So it's not like you can bluff your way into a higher rating. 

For tournaments and such, you get assigned an NTRP rating by an "official NTRP verifier" and can appeal to get it upgraded or downgraded by another "official verifier".
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Captain_Frisk on December 17, 2012, 03:03:56 pm
The scale is mostly a way for people to find like hitting partners.  There's not much benefit to overstating your rating since that just means you get matched with people too good for you.

It's also not very precise (i.e., when I was at my 4.0 peak, it would have taken at least a year or two of training to get to 5.0).  So it's not like you can bluff your way into a higher rating. 

For tournaments and such, you get assigned an NTRP rating by an "official NTRP verifier" and can appeal to get it upgraded or downgraded by another "official verifier".

See previous complaint regarding subjectivity.  They should use trueskill!
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Qvist on December 17, 2012, 03:09:18 pm
I read the thread title and thought it's something about Ambassador. But, oh well...
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: WanderingWinder on December 17, 2012, 03:44:06 pm
The scale is mostly a way for people to find like hitting partners.  There's not much benefit to overstating your rating since that just means you get matched with people too good for you.

It's also not very precise (i.e., when I was at my 4.0 peak, it would have taken at least a year or two of training to get to 5.0).  So it's not like you can bluff your way into a higher rating. 

For tournaments and such, you get assigned an NTRP rating by an "official NTRP verifier" and can appeal to get it upgraded or downgraded by another "official verifier".

See previous complaint regarding subjectivity.  They should use trueskill!
Trueskill isn't magic.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: theory on December 17, 2012, 03:50:39 pm
The scale is mostly a way for people to find like hitting partners.  There's not much benefit to overstating your rating since that just means you get matched with people too good for you.

It's also not very precise (i.e., when I was at my 4.0 peak, it would have taken at least a year or two of training to get to 5.0).  So it's not like you can bluff your way into a higher rating. 

For tournaments and such, you get assigned an NTRP rating by an "official NTRP verifier" and can appeal to get it upgraded or downgraded by another "official verifier".

See previous complaint regarding subjectivity.  They should use trueskill!
Trueskill isn't magic.

It doesn't handle ragequits in tennis very well.  "Hang on, come back here!  I need to enter your mu and sigma into my spreadsheet before you leave!"
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: ftl on December 26, 2012, 03:43:13 pm
Oh hey! I just saw this thread, since I don't check non-dominion-related-general-discussion much. I'm a tennis player! Probably 4.5ish, I played in a 4.0 league in Illinois and was better than everyone there, but maybe here in SoCal I'm more like a standard 4.0, not sure.

Looking forward to the Australian open!
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: shraeye on December 26, 2012, 03:49:07 pm
Good, I'm glad to see I have some company for my all-night Aussie Open watching!
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Ozle on January 14, 2013, 09:49:53 am
So Aussie Open has started.

I'm intrigued to find out what non-British people think of Andy Murray in general?
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: theory on January 14, 2013, 10:13:26 am
I think he will lose a lot of sympathy support now.  Man, you've got your Grand Slam now.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: DStu on January 14, 2013, 10:39:07 am
I think he will lose a lot of sympathy support now.  Man, you've got your Grand Slam now.

Yeah, come on, let these poor guys Djokovic, Nadal and Federer also get theirs...
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: theory on January 14, 2013, 11:01:30 am
How can you ever root against The Fed?  Till the day he retires I don't think I could ever root for anyone but him.  Pre-2012 US Open, maybe you feel real bad for Andy Murray.  And I admit, I wanted Roddick to win the 2009 Wimbledon final.  But now I don't think there's anyone I'd choose over Fed.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Ozle on January 14, 2013, 11:26:27 am
Tipsarorororvich is getting my non-UK support for now!
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: ftl on January 14, 2013, 12:47:10 pm
I'm still rooting for Murray!
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: shraeye on January 14, 2013, 07:28:55 pm
So Aussie Open has started.

I'm intrigued to find out what non-British people think of Andy Murray in general?
He's been my one of my favorite player for years (also Gael Monfils).  I love his playing style, and I love watching him.

Super excited to watch them, and also Kei Nishikori, Tomic, and Dolgopolov.  Yay, tennis.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: shraeye on January 19, 2013, 03:43:21 am
anyone watching Tomic/Federer live?
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Jimmmmm on January 19, 2013, 05:48:38 am
I was watching. Could have gone to it if I was really keen. Good effort by Tomic.
Title: Re: Tennis
Post by: Ozle on January 20, 2013, 05:37:51 am
Looks like Djokovich is in trouble!

That will boost Federer and Murray a bit!