I've finished two games, won both, and haven't been lynched yet. ;D
I've finished two games, won both, and haven't been lynched yet. ;D
When does RMM reopen? ;D
Can I get recognition for most days alive as serial killer?^Recognized
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trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
Err, D1 Zxcvbn was "modkilled" along with Axxle, resulting in Axxle2 joining the game with all of Zxcvbn's information and setup.
trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
Err, D1 Zxcvbn was "modkilled" along with Axxle, resulting in Axxle2 joining the game with all of Zxcvbn's information and setup.
trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
Err, D1 Zxcvbn was "modkilled" along with Axxle, resulting in Axxle2 joining the game with all of Zxcvbn's information and setup.
Ok... then I will just replace zxcvbn with axxle2... but what happened to axxle2... O's posting style makes it really hard to follow along in that game.
ok! thanks!trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
Err, D1 Zxcvbn was "modkilled" along with Axxle, resulting in Axxle2 joining the game with all of Zxcvbn's information and setup.
Ok... then I will just replace zxcvbn with axxle2... but what happened to axxle2... O's posting style makes it really hard to follow along in that game.
killed night 2.
trying to update game VI: can someone tell me what day zxcvbn2 was modkilled? He was modkilled right? Has anyone else been modkilled?
Err, D1 Zxcvbn was "modkilled" along with Axxle, resulting in Axxle2 joining the game with all of Zxcvbn's information and setup.
Ok... then I will just replace zxcvbn with axxle2... but what happened to axxle2... O's posting style makes it really hard to follow along in that game.
Trying to put together some more stats: specifically town roles,
For Game one... TINAS was cop and Robz doc?
Game two.... tables cop, anything else
Game three... axxle cop, eHal doc
Game four... switchedfromstarcraft one-shot cop, grujah, one-shot vigilante, theorel innocent child, tables doc
Game five... this one is tricky, cause almost everyone had a role... except for Galz.
I swear I picked roles at random.
I was jail keeper in game 1, not doctor.
I've never had a PRYou are not alone.
I've never had a PR
I was jail keeper in game 1, not doctor.
Same here, but for game 3. Have we ever had a real doctor in a game, other than MV?
I was jail keeper in game 1, not doctor.
Same here, but for game 3. Have we ever had a real doctor in a game, other than MV?
Tables in MIV I think?
Most Mafia/SK Lynches: O, pingpongsam & Axxle (4), eHalcyon, Morgrim7 & Grujah (3)
So... question. Does BM Murder Mystery stats qualify for leaderboard. I have left off all other bastard mafia games, should I leave of BMMM as well?
So... question. Does BM Murder Mystery stats qualify for leaderboard. I have left off all other bastard mafia games, should I leave of BMMM as well?
Good question. I'm treating it more like a serious game with a twist. To me, more mystery than mafia. I'm gonna hedge on this and say PROBABLY not, but I'd be fine if it was.
My problem is probably that I go so far when I'm town as to look scummy (Glooble thought I was scummy). I generally end up with good reads from the looks of it but I end up looking scummy to do it, and well that gets me NK. Also you die at night because your scum and you deserve it :P
BMMMM1 is really fun to read. I wasn't gonna follow it but I got totally sucked in. Major props to Ozle for that game! :D
My problem is probably that I go so far when I'm town as to look scummy (Glooble thought I was scummy). I generally end up with good reads from the looks of it but I end up looking scummy to do it, and well that gets me NK. Also you die at night because your scum and you deserve it :P
in all the quicktopics i've read, your analysis has been much stronger than in the actual games i've been in with you. i don't know what that means, really.
Is there a QT? I'd love one. Although I feel a little useless when I don't even have a single person (me) I can trust.
My problem is probably that I go so far when I'm town as to look scummy (Glooble thought I was scummy). I generally end up with good reads from the looks of it but I end up looking scummy to do it, and well that gets me NK. Also you die at night because your scum and you deserve it :P
in all the quicktopics i've read, your analysis has been much stronger than in the actual games i've been in with you. i don't know what that means, really.
Insomniac is one of the most amazing, most perceptive players on f.ds. But he suuuucks D1. XD
My problem is probably that I go so far when I'm town as to look scummy (Glooble thought I was scummy). I generally end up with good reads from the looks of it but I end up looking scummy to do it, and well that gets me NK. Also you die at night because your scum and you deserve it :P
in all the quicktopics i've read, your analysis has been much stronger than in the actual games i've been in with you. i don't know what that means, really.
Insomniac is one of the most amazing, most perceptive players on f.ds. But he suuuucks D1. XD
I do suck day 1. And thanks guys. That said about the qt being stronger well reads always get stronger with more info
Haha my day 1 reads are getting better I pegged theore on day 1 m6. And I know robs your determined to beat me as much as I am determined to beat you but I don have robz tunnel either (I didn't suspect u d1 m6 but I did later)
My day 1 reads are good enough that Ozle and galz sheeped em
Most Mafia/SK Lynches: O, pingpongsam & Axxle (4), eHalcyon, Morgrim7 & Grujah (3)
Not fair, Morgrim stole my hammer on Glooble. :'(
Actually Morgrim stole a lot of hammers.
Can I get an award (or at least an honorable mention) for being killed in 2 different games within 15 minutes of each other?^honorable mention
Can I get an award (or at least an honourable mention) for being killed in 2 different games within 15 minutes of each other?^honourable mention
Most times lynching: O & Galzria (10), Axxle & eHalcyon (7)
Most Mafia/SK Lynches: O, pingpongsam & Axxle (4), eHalcyon, Morgrim7 & Grujah (3)
Most times lynching: O & Galzria (10), Axxle & eHalcyon (7)
Most Mafia/SK Lynches: O, pingpongsam & Axxle (4), eHalcyon, Morgrim7 & Grujah (3)
Most Accurate? My favorite stat! ;D
Vote: Galzria ;D Master lyncher lynches self.
You're not a lyncher you just want more stats in the mafia leaderboard!
I'm bummed because this game won't count, right?
Vote: Galzria ;D Master lyncher lynches self.
You're not a lyncher you just want more stats in the mafia leaderboard!
I'm bummed because this game won't count, right?
Oh... I am counting it
Vote: Galzria ;D Master lyncher lynches self.
You're not a lyncher you just want more stats in the mafia leaderboard!
I'm bummed because this game won't count, right?
Oh... I am counting it
You can't count Bastard Games. They aren't inherently balanced.
Vote: Galzria ;D Master lyncher lynches self.
You're not a lyncher you just want more stats in the mafia leaderboard!
I'm bummed because this game won't count, right?
Oh... I am counting it
You can't count Bastard Games. They aren't inherently balanced.
But medical mafia was?
This tally should only count the regular games, for sure.
can i get something for being alive in six games at the same time? i kbow i would like it!
yuma, your new avatar looks familiar but it's too small to make out ...?
yuma, your new avatar looks familiar but it's too small to make out ...?
Has anyone else been lynched in less than 2 hours and 7 minutes in a non-bastard mafia? ;D
Has anyone else been lynched in less than 2 hours and 7 minutes in a non-bastard mafia? ;DYou didn't ask for it, but I thought I would be obliged to ^recognition!
Has anyone else been lynched in less than 2 hours and 7 minutes in a non-bastard mafia? ;D
The bastardry of RMMI is more uncertain than I realized.
killed n1 again
wooooo
Are you saying you are not following every game here?killed n1 again
wooooo
Which game?
Are you saying you are not following every game here?
Are you saying you are not following every game here?
Absolutely. I would go crazy if I did. I didn't follow MI or MII. I didn't follow MIV either, although that one is supposed to be the most epic so far, right? I have not been following VII-IX either, though IX would probably be quite interesting.
Has anyone else been lynched in less than 2 hours and 7 minutes in a non-bastard mafia? ;D
The bastardry of RMMI is more uncertain than I realized.
Lol!
killed n1 again
wooooo
Which game?
THE PIRATE GAME. I should check in on that one. Was digging the flavor.
But that's a minor quibble, on the whole, great job on keeping all these stats, Yuma!
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% Correct lynch probably would be best if it was only done from town POV. It is a lot easier for Mafia to get correct lynches than town... the only scenario where Mafia doesn't is in bus situations. Accordingly, pps' % will be aided by three easy day lynches (when he was Mafia) in MVII.
% Correct lynch probably would be best if it was only done from town POV. It is a lot easier for Mafia to get correct lynches than town... the only scenario where Mafia doesn't is in bus situations. Accordingly, pps' % will be aided by three easy day lynches (when he was Mafia) in MVII.
I changed this stat, thanks for the feedback. I now consider correct lynches to be: scum lynches by town or by opposing mafia faction. I took correct lynches and divided by total lynches subtracting lynches as mafia.
For example. Robz has 7 lynches. 3 off those came as mafia lynching town. He also has 2 lynches as either town lynching mafia or as mafia lynching another mafia faction. So for him it is 2/(7-3)*100=.75
There is also a new stat for town lynches as mafia
yes indeed% Correct lynch probably would be best if it was only done from town POV. It is a lot easier for Mafia to get correct lynches than town... the only scenario where Mafia doesn't is in bus situations. Accordingly, pps' % will be aided by three easy day lynches (when he was Mafia) in MVII.
I changed this stat, thanks for the feedback. I now consider correct lynches to be: scum lynches by town or by opposing mafia faction. I took correct lynches and divided by total lynches subtracting lynches as mafia.
For example. Robz has 7 lynches. 3 off those came as mafia lynching town. He also has 2 lynches as either town lynching mafia or as mafia lynching another mafia faction. So for him it is 2/(7-3)*100=.75
There is also a new stat for town lynches as mafia
Let me think. As town I twice lynched scum: Axxle in MI, and O in MIV. I also lynched a scum from a different scum team (EHalcyon) in MVI. So isn't my correct number 3?
PPS with 100% lynch correctness. Omigosh.
Also, Morg 3rd on victory-ness is a lol. ;D
I would LOVE to see that statistic! It would help me perceive player's personalities a little bit better (now why would I be interested in that? .......).
Your fourth method looks fairly sound to me. I think I would compile an individual statistic per person per game, and then average a player's score for each game. That would probably be the most informative. I know, for instance, that my posting percentage varies wildly, and it would be nice to verify that game to game.
I no longer have permission to view the doc : (
I would LOVE to see that statistic! It would help me perceive player's personalities a little bit better (now why would I be interested in that? .......).
Your fourth method looks fairly sound to me. I think I would compile an individual statistic per person per game, and then average a player's score for each game. That would probably be the most informative. I know, for instance, that my posting percentage varies wildly, and it would be nice to verify that game to game.
Well it appears that this stat doesn't quite accomplish the goal: the problem is that day's one and two tend to be the longest lasting and with the most posts. As such people that are killed or lynched night/day 1 have a much higher percentage in nearly every game. For example, using the fourth method Galz ends up with a 32% despite being lynched day 1, or C-frisk in game 7 with a 28%. So I am not sure if it is the best method, any other ideas?
I would LOVE to see that statistic! It would help me perceive player's personalities a little bit better (now why would I be interested in that? .......).
Your fourth method looks fairly sound to me. I think I would compile an individual statistic per person per game, and then average a player's score for each game. That would probably be the most informative. I know, for instance, that my posting percentage varies wildly, and it would be nice to verify that game to game.
Well it appears that this stat doesn't quite accomplish the goal: the problem is that day's one and two tend to be the longest lasting and with the most posts. As such people that are killed or lynched night/day 1 have a much higher percentage in nearly every game. For example, using the fourth method Galz ends up with a 32% despite being lynched day 1, or C-frisk in game 7 with a 28%. So I am not sure if it is the best method, any other ideas?
Seems like you want some sort of weighted average of proportion of posts per day.
Maybe something like the following?
Galzria posts 100 times day1 and dies.
jo posts 70 times day1 and 50 times day2.
yuma posts 30 times day1, 25 times day2, and then 10 times day3 (talking to himself).
Well, Galzria had 50% of the posts when he was alive.
jo had 35% of the posts while Galz was alive, and 66% of the posts after he died.
yuma had 15% of the posts day1, 33% day2, and 100% day3.
So, my thought would be when a player dies extend his participation through the days afterward (as a constant proportion).
So, Galz had 50% day1, just pretend like he has a constant 50% for all remaining days.
That would mean he "ghost-posted" 75 times day2. So jo gets 33% weighted average, and yuma gets 17.5% (which is just their actual percent * the remaining 50%)
jo's complete average then is 35%/2 + 33%/2 = 34%.
yuma's final day then is 100% weighted to account for the dead down to 16%. So, we just pretend he got 16% of those posts.
His final average then is 15/3+17.5/3+16/3= 16.16%
You could weight it a bit differently, but I think this will give the fairest proportion of posts accounting for deaths and day-lengths and all that.
So, formula I guess is:
Day1 % = #posts / total day1 posts.
Day2 % = (#posts / total day2 posts) * (1-SUM(Day1 posting % for all dead players))
etc.
A stat idea: MVP's! We could have the mod choose it after the game (usually it's rather straightforward, Galzria in Blitz 1 for example). It's not very meaningful or serious, but I think it could be a fun way to reward people for playing a great game.
So it's not totally stupid, yay!A stat idea: MVP's! We could have the mod choose it after the game (usually it's rather straightforward, Galzria in Blitz 1 for example). It's not very meaningful or serious, but I think it could be a fun way to reward people for playing a great game.
I wholeheartedly endorse this.
Dsell wins MVP for M-IV.
pingpongsam wins MVP for M-VII.
we have underpowered Serial Killers apparently.
we have underpowered Serial Killers apparently.
Jo got it in RMM1 though!
Winning as SK is hard. There's one of him, and everyone's gunning for him.
It'll happen in a normal game one of these days. Maybe MIX.
SK's didn't even win the all SK game <.<
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0) ?SK's didn't even win the all SK game <.<
Which game was that now?
Winning as SK is hard. There's one of him, and everyone's gunning for him.
It'll happen in a normal game one of these days. Maybe MIX.
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0) ?SK's didn't even win the all SK game <.<
Which game was that now?
I wasn't following either, but I've understood everyone just died, so no winner.http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0) ?SK's didn't even win the all SK game <.<
Which game was that now?
I didn't fully follow that. So the winner wasn't an SK, but everyone else was?
yepI wasn't following either, but I've understood everyone just died, so no winner.http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2886.0) ?SK's didn't even win the all SK game <.<
Which game was that now?
I didn't fully follow that. So the winner wasn't an SK, but everyone else was?
Yuma, was ZM-I really your first win? REALLY? That is truly shocking. You're one my most feared players!
I've just played three normal games (seems like more than that!) and while I've had the pleasure of being mafia twice, I've never been anything but vanilla.It doesn't have to be "Role Madness" to have a nice selections of roles though. "Great Idea" works pretty well for that too.
Maybe that's why I like Role Madness so much! ;D
I should have thought of that.Yuma, was ZM-I really your first win? REALLY? That is truly shocking. You're one my most feared players!
"Forums Mafia: the most fun you'll ever have flipping a coin!"
One of these days, I'll win a game. One of these days :PI feel your pain. Have you tried flipping a coin at the end?
Here's an interesting thing: I was mafia simultaneously in MVIII and MIX. I remember thinking this a little odd, that I was working with O and Frisk in MVIII, but obviously I didn't want to clue them in to how I acted as mafia because they were not on my team in MIX.
But now I realize that all three of us were scum in both games, at the same time. Weird!
There have been 34 scum roles and 36 town roles.
There have been 34 scum roles and 36 town roles.
This seems odd.
There have been 34 scum roles and 36 town roles.
This seems odd.
Does "roles" in this context mean "non-vanilla?" Because that would make more sense.
Here's an interesting thing: I was mafia simultaneously in MVIII and MIX. I remember thinking this a little odd, that I was working with O and Frisk in MVIII, but obviously I didn't want to clue them in to how I acted as mafia because they were not on my team in MIX.
But now I realize that all three of us were scum in both games, at the same time. Weird!
Scum lynch D1 in ZM2!
If mods or a collective of players want to provide MVPs for MI, MII, MV and MVI I can compile the complete MVP list.
MVI mvp is timchen for using his 1shot werewolf/cop to find a werewolf.
Ehunt, PPS, Grujah, and Timchen all have merits to them, actually.
Didnt follow M1 closely but maybe TINAS for his VT claim as a power role?
Galzria is about (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats) to become the top fds member in terms of "most time online" surpassing WanderingWinder at 65d, 6h and 37m. Galz is currently at 63d 8h 30m, due to a great part his Mafia play. Of course this assumes that WanderingWinder does not get on the site in the next few days.
I would just like to say in advance to Galz. Congrats! And may you have a long fds life!
Other mafia players in the top 10 are Robz and TINAS.
I'd be curious to see a "least/most times mislynched" statistic. As in, a statistic that tracks how often each player, while town, finds themselves getting lynched.
i winI'd be curious to see a "least/most times mislynched" statistic. As in, a statistic that tracks how often each player, while town, finds themselves getting lynched.
i win
(as in, i've never been lynched as town)
I'd be curious to see a "least/most times mislynched" statistic. As in, a statistic that tracks how often each player, while town, finds themselves getting lynched.
i win
(as in, i've never been lynched as town)
I'd be curious to see a "least/most times mislynched" statistic. As in, a statistic that tracks how often each player, while town, finds themselves getting lynched.
i win
(as in, i've never been lynched as town)
So we should just lynch you in all games, since if you get lynched you must be scum? Sweet.
I'd be curious to see a "least/most times mislynched" statistic. As in, a statistic that tracks how often each player, while town, finds themselves getting lynched.
You guys are nuts.
For giggles I wonder what the top 10 posters would look like if I temporarily enabled post counting for this forum.
I think I'd have to enable post counts, make the database recount all posts, and then disable, and then recount again. Maybe one night while no one is online.
I think I'd have to enable post counts, make the database recount all posts, and then disable, and then recount again. Maybe one night while no one is online.We are always online.
I think I'd have to enable post counts, make the database recount all posts, and then disable, and then recount again. Maybe one night while no one is online.We are always online.
I'd be curious to see a "least/most times mislynched" statistic. As in, a statistic that tracks how often each player, while town, finds themselves getting lynched.
I'll try to put something together on in the next little bit. I am also interested in trying to compile a total votes stat (will probably have to include RVS unfortunately) and total voted upon stat. But where will I find the time?
Yes, you would. 3975 posts and counting.I think I'd have to enable post counts, make the database recount all posts, and then disable, and then recount again. Maybe one night while no one is online.
I would win, I think. :)
M-XII has ended in a Mafia win. MVP: Insomniac, for leading his team to a win, making ALL nightkills without getting caught, and somehow remaining above nearly all suspicion of being Mafia, only getting suspected for being SK - something he was poised to use to his advantage at the very end. ;D
MVPS:
#3 to PPS for doctoring Galzria the night he, as OSWV, shot scum
#2 to Timchen for using one-shot seer effect to hit only remaining werewolf.
aannndd....
#1 to Grujah/Morgrim for soft-claiming Masons/Lovers D1 and not getting killed the entire game.
Is this a game that one can dominate?
Pretty sure Morg and I were MVPs MVI:MVPS:
#3 to PPS for doctoring Galzria the night he, as OSWV, shot scum
#2 to Timchen for using one-shot seer effect to hit only remaining werewolf.
aannndd....
#1 to Grujah/Morgrim for soft-claiming Masons/Lovers D1 and not getting killed the entire game.
MVI mvp is timchen for using his 1shot werewolf/cop to find a werewolf.
| Game | Player | Was on winning faction? |
| MI | TINAS | Yes |
| MII | Galzria | Yes |
| MIII | eHalcyon | Yes |
| MIV | DSell | Yes |
| MV | Captain_Frisk | Yes |
| MVI | timchen | Yes |
| MVII | pingpongsam | Yes |
| MVIII | O | Yes |
| MIX | Voltgloss | Yes |
| MX | Eevee | Yes |
| MXI | --??-- | -- |
| MXII | Insomniac | Yes |
| ZM1 | Galzria | Yes |
| ZM2 | Insomniac | Yes |
I really love that there are a wide variety of MVPs! It's not just one player dominating our games.Some great players (Robz and yuma for example) are still missing the trophy!
I really love that there are a wide variety of MVPs! It's not just one player dominating our games.Some great players (Robz and yuma for example) still missing the trophy!
Happy to see my name up there too.
@Insomniac
Isn't the mvp usually someone from the winning team in sports too?
Is this a game that one can dominate?
Well, one can be really good at it from both a town and a scum perspective. I guess the game is self-correcting though. Although, I think it's not a factor of having no one who's really good, but rather having a lot of people who are quite good.
Is this a game that one can dominate?
Well, one can be really good at it from both a town and a scum perspective. I guess the game is self-correcting though. Although, I think it's not a factor of having no one who's really good, but rather having a lot of people who are quite good.
Both games I've been scum in (normal games, not RMM or BM), I've taken MVP. I suck as town (usually) however.
Shout out to CF for surviving ZERO games he's been in.
I think Frisk needs special recognition for having been killed thrice in one day.
BM-VI - lynched
RMM3 - lynched
ZM-3 - NK'd
Good thing M-XV is starting!
I think Frisk needs special recognition for having been killed thrice in one day.
BM-VI - lynched
RMM3 - lynched
ZM-3 - NK'd
Good thing M-XV is starting!
I was noticing this too. Poor guy.
I was stunned to be alive in ZM3.
I think Frisk needs special recognition for having been killed thrice in one day.
BM-VI - lynched
RMM3 - lynched
ZM-3 - NK'd
Good thing M-XV is starting!
I was noticing this too. Poor guy.
I was stunned to be alive in ZM3.
Shh! :P
Man, I was really hoping ZM3 would give me a 100% win rate in 3 games.Well, it likely would have, given the dead giveaways you spotted. Look at it like this: You didn't really LOSE lose, you lost on a technicality. I didn't really WIN win, I won on a technicality.
Man, I was really hoping ZM3 would give me a 100% win rate in 3 games.Well, it likely would have, given the dead giveaways you spotted. Look at it like this: You didn't really LOSE lose, you lost on a technicality. I didn't really WIN win, I won on a technicality.
stats updated
stats updated
You missed my "town lynch as mafia" stat.
stats updated
You missed my "town lynch as mafia" stat.
As in you should have 1 for being on the Robz lynch? Changed it.
stats updated
You missed my "town lynch as mafia" stat.
As in you should have 1 for being on the Robz lynch? Changed it.
Oh, yeah. I thought that stat was being the town's lynch as mafia, which I would have for D2. Your explanation makes more sense.
stats updated
You missed my "town lynch as mafia" stat.
As in you should have 1 for being on the Robz lynch? Changed it.
Oh, yeah. I thought that stat was being the town's lynch as mafia, which I would have for D2. Your explanation makes more sense.
It is mainly included to take into account when I am trying to figure out correct lynches. That is I needed a place for mafia lynches of town to be considered "correct" without putting them into the correct lynch of a mafia player by town.... Hope that makes sense...
I think this is updated through ZM3, not ZM2? At least, I don't remember any other normal games of mine finishing up.
On that note, do we want to count ZM3? I am fine either way, and leaderboard stats aren't very important to me, though they are fun. But like both SFS and I were saying, it felt like the ending was aborted. It certainly wasn't traditional.
I'm not gonna argue hard for this point because I have a dog in the fight but I'd like to hear whether other people think it should count (and maybe any future games like it).
I think, in this case, it would be treated as a lynch. I think Dsell said he would have lynched me anyways.I think this is updated through ZM3, not ZM2? At least, I don't remember any other normal games of mine finishing up.
On that note, do we want to count ZM3? I am fine either way, and leaderboard stats aren't very important to me, though they are fun. But like both SFS and I were saying, it felt like the ending was aborted. It certainly wasn't traditional.
I'm not gonna argue hard for this point because I have a dog in the fight but I'd like to hear whether other people think it should count (and maybe any future games like it).
it is through ZM3. I think we should include it. The only thing I am not sure is how to treat the modkill... I haven't treated it as a lynch or a night kill, but unless we start seeing more modkills (hopefully we won't!) I don't want to create a stat for it.
Why would we consider not counting ZM2? Was there something unusual about it?Robz thinks the setup screwed his team over (admittedly, it was a rough rough setup for scum).
What happened in ZM3? Why was there a modkill?
What happened in ZM3? Why was there a modkill?
You were so gentle, and genteel. Can't speak to Gentile (and this is not RSP).What happened in ZM3? Why was there a modkill?
Archetype posted his PM during LyLo. There was a whole kerfuffle. Everyone involved is very sorry and the community has all agreed to forgive and forget. Read the last few pages of the thread if you need more info than that.
Frisk has now passed Galz for second most games played. Frisk and I are tied at most games as scum (7! And Eevee has only had 1!).
Rankings updated through MXIII and the recent blitz games....
Interesting facts:
Frisk's hammer to win ZM5 was his first hammer ever. He has been on a lynch wagon 20 times, but that was his first hammer. Robz is similar being on 19, but only hammering once. (Actually this may be false as I do not have hammer stats from MVI.
Also Insomniac is now a leading survivor with 5 games not dying after being a prime target for day 1 lynch and night 1 NK early on.
No player with more than 10 games has a winning percentage above 50%. Insomniac has a 50% and has played 12 games.
The average winning percentage for all players is 43%.
Yuma, some of the numbers in the OP have converted to emoticons. Can this be fixed?
Interesting facts:
Also Insomniac is now a leading survivor with 5 games not dying after being a prime target for day 1 lynch and night 1 NK early on.
No player with more than 10 games has a winning percentage above 50%. Insomniac has a 50% and has played 12 games.
| Game | Player | Was on winning faction? |
| MI | TINAS | Yes |
| MII | Galzria | Yes |
| MIII | eHalcyon | Yes |
| MIV | DSell | Yes |
| MV | Captain_Frisk | Yes |
| MVI | timchen | Yes |
| MVII | pingpongsam | Yes |
| MVIII | O | Yes |
| MIX | Voltgloss | Yes |
| MX | Eevee | Yes |
| MXI | --??-- | -- |
| MXII | Insomniac | Yes |
| MXIII | --??-- | ? |
| MXIV | yuma | Yes |
| MXV | --??-- | ? |
| ZM1 | Galzria | Yes |
| ZM2 | Insomniac | Yes |
| ZM3 | SwitchedFromStarcraft | Yes |
| ZM4 | Captain_Frisk | Yes |
| ZM5 | Robz888 | Yes |
Shouldn't the MVP be on the winning faction anyways?
Yuma, some of the numbers in the OP have converted to emoticons. Can this be fixed?
They can be fixed by inserting tags. (8[b][/b]) becomes (8) instead of (8).
Yuma, some of the numbers in the OP have converted to emoticons. Can this be fixed?
They can be fixed by inserting tags. (8[b][/b]) becomes (8) instead of (8).
Also I think it is time that we stopped referring to ashersky, archetype or shraeye as newbies... Shraeye and ash have been in more game than me, and arch is only one behind... they might have been a bit late to the game, but have been in a lot since they started playing
Also I think it is time that we stopped referring to ashersky, archetype or shraeye as newbies... Shraeye and ash have been in more game than me, and arch is only one behind... they might have been a bit late to the game, but have been in a lot since they started playing
Who calls us newbies, anyway?
I've only played 3 games.
That's right! Ain't nobody called me a newbie and lived to tell the tale.Also I think it is time that we stopped referring to ashersky, archetype or shraeye as newbies... Shraeye and ash have been in more game than me, and arch is only one behind... they might have been a bit late to the game, but have been in a lot since they started playing
Who calls us newbies, anyway?
I remember seeing one post that called you and me newbies (don't know which post).
But shraeye being called a newbie? Haven't heard that one.
I've only played 3 games.
So have I. And I've lost everyone!
I had Noble Brigand, Pearl Diver and Mad Scientist!
Also, I feel like someone is trying to get Wigglesworth killed. Or at least not killing anything. ;)
:D more than 50% win now, and also tied for most wins :DI've no idea what my percentage is, but I'm terrified that I'm 3/3 as mafia. I feel like that's too much weight on me the next time I roll scum.
:D more than 50% win now, and also tied for most wins :DI've no idea what my percentage is, but I'm terrified that I'm 3/3 as mafia. I feel like that's too much weight on me the next time I roll scum.
Thanks so much for posting this. I was wondering how long I would get away with no one noticing that I always lose.Hey man, it's better than being wrong.
Thanks so much for posting this. I was wondering how long I would get away with no one noticing that I always lose.Hey man, it's better than being wrong.
Something's wrong here. I have a 4% correct lynch rate?
Most wins: Robz & Insomniac (8), Galzria, Captain_Frisk, Eevee & O (6)
Most losses: Robz (12), Captain_Frisk & Galz (11)
Most wins: Robz & Insomniac (8), Galzria, Captain_Frisk, Eevee & O (6)
Most losses: Robz (12), Captain_Frisk & Galz (11)
So - our most active players are our worst?
Most wins: Robz & Insomniac (8), Galzria, Captain_Frisk, Eevee & O (6)
Most losses: Robz (12), Captain_Frisk & Galz (11)
So - our most active players are our worst?
I resent that.
Most wins: Robz & Insomniac (8), Galzria, Captain_Frisk, Eevee & O (6)
Most losses: Robz (12), Captain_Frisk & Galz (11)
So - our most active players are our worst?
I resent that.
Your wins are all from being killed night 1 though right? :)
Most wins: Robz & Insomniac (8), Galzria, Captain_Frisk, Eevee & O (6)
Most losses: Robz (12), Captain_Frisk & Galz (11)
So - our most active players are our worst?
I resent that.
Your wins are all from being killed night 1 though right? :)
Haha I forgot you don't remember MXII...definetly :P
Mods take note: I've still never had a PR in a normal game. I've always been vanilla town or scum. This is what drives me to Role Madness games. :PRobz said somewhere, when I commented on him accepting entry in a game with "no PR", that "Mafia is a PR".
Now with that said I am fairly confident I will be just atrociously horrible with whatever PRs I do get. :-X
Mods take note: I've still never had a PR in a normal game. I've always been vanilla town or scum. This is what drives me to Role Madness games. :PRobz said somewhere, when I commented on him accepting entry in a game with "no PR", that "Mafia is a PR".
Now with that said I am fairly confident I will be just atrociously horrible with whatever PRs I do get. :-X
Mods take note: I've still never had a PR in a normal game. I've always been vanilla town or scum. This is what drives me to Role Madness games. :PRobz said somewhere, when I commented on him accepting entry in a game with "no PR", that "Mafia is a PR".
Now with that said I am fairly confident I will be just atrociously horrible with whatever PRs I do get. :-X
Yeah that's a valid argument. Then I should say "I've always been vanilla." I have been scum twice out of 5 games.
Mods take note: I've still never had a PR in a normal game. I've always been vanilla town or scum. This is what drives me to Role Madness games. :PRobz said somewhere, when I commented on him accepting entry in a game with "no PR", that "Mafia is a PR".
Now with that said I am fairly confident I will be just atrociously horrible with whatever PRs I do get. :-X
Yeah that's a valid argument. Then I should say "I've always been vanilla." I have been scum twice out of 5 games.
I count Goon and IC as power roles. The only thing not a power role is Vanilla Townie--absolute nothing to do, day or night.
Yes, you are crazy awesome.
I feel like I spend a lot of time on this forum, and my wife would agree with me, but I am only at 26 days, 11 hours and 17 minutes
Uhm. Galz registered 9 months ago and has spent 3 of those months on the forums? What am I missing ;D
Uhm. Galz registered 9 months ago and has spent 3 of those months on the forums? What am I missing ;D
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I still need MVPs for the following: MXIII (Grujah's game) MXV (Insomniac's game) MXVII (ashersky's game) and ZM8 (I think SFS's game).arg, I'll get to that.
Also I am waiting for one game in particular to finish... AHEM!.... before updating the rank lists. I think there may be some changes in some of the rankings that I am sure you are all anxious to learn about. Also I added a growing calendar into my google docs spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am4-kXAplaK1dDhtRXBJNS1nYVR3U2dxSVhHTnJwb0E&pli=1#gid=32) outlining start/finish dates for each game (not including Blitz cause I haven't gotten around to it yet) that you guys may find interesting.
I still need MVPs for the following: MXIII (Grujah's game) MXV (Insomniac's game) MXVII (ashersky's game) and ZM8 (I think SFS's game).
Also I am waiting for one game in particular to finish... AHEM!.... before updating the rank lists. I think there may be some changes in some of the rankings that I am sure you are all anxious to learn about. Also I added a growing calendar into my google docs spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am4-kXAplaK1dDhtRXBJNS1nYVR3U2dxSVhHTnJwb0E&pli=1#gid=32) outlining start/finish dates for each game (not including Blitz cause I haven't gotten around to it yet) that you guys may find interesting.
I still need MVPs for the following: MXIII (Grujah's game) MXV (Insomniac's game) MXVII (ashersky's game) and ZM8 (I think SFS's game).
Also I am waiting for one game in particular to finish... AHEM!.... before updating the rank lists. I think there may be some changes in some of the rankings that I am sure you are all anxious to learn about. Also I added a growing calendar into my google docs spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am4-kXAplaK1dDhtRXBJNS1nYVR3U2dxSVhHTnJwb0E&pli=1#gid=32) outlining start/finish dates for each game (not including Blitz cause I haven't gotten around to it yet) that you guys may find interesting.
MXV - Qvist, for an outstanding showing regardless of his newbieness, although that made it all the more impressive.
MXVII MVP is raerae, for a strong first showing as an IC in her very first mafia game, forcing through the soft deadlines, and leading at least the Lekkit lynch.
so am I including MXVIII in the rankings? I expect to see a volatile and cancerous debate about it...
so am I including MXVIII in the rankings? I expect to see a volatile and cancerous debate about it...
so am I including MXVIII in the rankings? I expect to see a volatile and cancerous debate about it...
so am I including MXVIII in the rankings? I expect to see a volatile and cancerous debate about it...
The three winners would obviously like it counted. There was stress and trying and stuff. This wouldn't be the first unbalanced game to be included, as Robz has mentioned.
Besides, Robz would lose a PR in his percentage if it didn't count. :)
@Ash, I'm going to be 100% honest. If town had won, and there were 6 scum I would STILL be against it's inclusion on the basis that VT was unsafe for scum to claim. But SEVEN scum. The game was OVER after ONE mislynch.
Even blitz2 wasn't OVER after one mislynch it was over after one mislynch AND Robz not shooting obvcop
@Ash, I'm going to be 100% honest. If town had won, and there were 6 scum I would STILL be against it's inclusion on the basis that VT was unsafe for scum to claim. But SEVEN scum. The game was OVER after ONE mislynch.
Even blitz2 wasn't OVER after one mislynch it was over after one mislynch AND Robz not shooting obvcop
VT was unsafe for scum to claim if Cuzz was alive. The other VT only had swords information.
I think the easy solution is to rename it RMM and not count it, as it's clear that the majority don't want it counted against their records.
But if we're going to keep it "MVIII" then I think it should count, just like ZM2 did, because that's the expectation up to this point.
This game is a perfect example and reason to change the way things are done, of course. Create a committee, force mods to keep their games in the right categories (like, Ozle's game isn't in the normal mafia queue, because it's BRMM), or whatever works.
Correct Lynch % (with at least 10 lynches) Axxle (81%), Grujah (72%), shraeye (67%), yuma (65%)Everyone should just sheep us all of the time.
Fuck yeah.
Correct lynch% is the stat I covet the most. Props to you two.
All the more reason not to self-vote :)Correct lynch% is the stat I covet the most. Props to you two.
PS I changed the correct lynch% so that players wouldn't be penalized for bussing a fellow scum partner. Before that counted as an incorrect lynch. Now it is taken out of the equation. However, players are still accountable for self-voting, even as scum. Those will be considered incorrect lynches and will hurt your %.
For example, w/o my two selfvotes as scum, I would be at 72%.
Need to win my nexttwothree games as mafia, should allow me to claim the top spot in all mafia related categories,muhuhahahahanever going to happen.
We should definitely get a blitz game running again.
Also just double checking, this next newbie mafia game will not count for stats correct, it is now its own category prioritizing new players.
I think that is because I never added in ZMXI. In fact I am sure of that because I don't have a Drab listed as a player in my spreadsheet. I believe that explains all your discrepancies and also means there are discrepancies for anyone else that played in ZMXI.
I will get on that soon!
idea: a stat for total number of wins by all players/total number of loses by all players. If it is >1 then our games have been favoring town, if <1 then favoring scum. This can get twisted by multiple scumteams though....
yeah... but in game with 2 scumteams 2/3 of players should lose... and we've had a lot of such games (MnM, DS9, RMM7 recently).
yep, and in general one would expect people who have played fewer games to not be as good, so that does make some sense.
yeah... but in game with 2 scumteams 2/3 of players should lose... and we've had a lot of such games (MnM, DS9, RMM7 recently).sheesh, I knew somebody would object to that, and so included the bolded. IN GENERAL..... there will of course be exceptions.....
yep, and in general one would expect people who have played fewer games to not be as good, so that does make some sense.
yeah... but in game with 2 scumteams 2/3 of players should lose... and we've had a lot of such games (MnM, DS9, RMM7 recently).
yep, and in general one would expect people who have played fewer games to not be as good, so that does make some sense.
I love how Robz is the winner for like half of these.Including most wins and most losses. :P
I love how Robz is the winner for like half of these.Most wins and most losses is especially impressive.
I probably have the highest percentage lynched then?
I am also thinking of trying to figure out a way to implement a player rating of sorts... kinda like a QB rating in football. It would attempt to factor in winning % giving more weight to players that were in the game longer in wins, but also punishing loses more if you were in the game longer, correct lynch %, mislynches of yourself, successful night actions and some other things.
If anyone has any suggestions or ideas I would be open to them. I haven't started on it other than as an idea so right now I am very open to advice.
Town shouldn't get points for surviving. in theory the best town players get NKed early. surviving means scum thought they weren't as big a threat. getting lynched should be penalized, regardless of alignement. getting nked as scum or a PR should be slightly penalized as well. also, getting caught by a cop, or getting your NK blocked by a doc or something. I'm assuming these points would be averaged? there should also be some sort of uncertanty factor for players with less than, say, 7 games.
I don't think there is an easy way to codify good mafia play. You can generalize, but in the end it is always situation dependent. For example:
Getting lynched might be generalized a bad play. Maybe you were scummy town. Maybe you were actual scum and slipped. But maybe getting yourself lynched as town protected a more powerful player. Maybe as scum you planned it all out with your buddies for an epic bus. So we can't really tell from a lynch.
Getting yourself NK'd as a VT? Ostensibly good, because it meant you drew the kill away from a power role. But maybe the game doesn't even have PRs. Or maybe the scum weren't really paying attention and chose at random (or chose you for some reason other than "he seems like a threat").
Surviving through the game? Probably good, but what if you survived because you just lurked everyday and other things happening just meant you never became a target? Maybe you were a mason and your partner was a really good player, and you just coasted in his wake. Maybe you kept getting doctored or jailed or whatever other things. Maybe you just got a Bulletproof modifier or something.
I mean, there are just so many variables.
Win % as Mafia: shraeye, mcmc(100%), Insomniac (80%), Galzria (75%)
mcmc isn't 100% anymore, he lost the blitz game.
Cool.mcmc isn't 100% anymore, he lost the blitz game.
I haven't updated yet and probably won't until one more game finishes. It is too much work (by too much I mean like 20 minutes, but hey, I am lazy) to update after just 1 or 2 games... so I normally wait until 3 or 4 games pass to update the leader board.
Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
ZM8 - hosted by SFS (can anyone who remembers that game help me out with this one?)I comodded that one. We decided on Robz for Scum MVP.
MXVIII - hosted by cayvie (dsell can you help out here... or anyone else, I can't even remember which players won that game...)WWs won that game, but balance was an issue...
MXVIII - hosted by cayvie (dsell can you help out here... or anyone else, I can't even remember which players won that game...)WWs won that game, but balance was an issue...
I'll go back and see what I can find for XVIII, if we hadn't come up with one already I can try to name one in the next couple days.
and I need MVPs for the following:
ZM11 - hosted by Insomniac
ZM14 - hosted by ashersky
ZM8 - hosted by SFS (can anyone who remembers that game help me out with this one?)
MXXV - hosted by raerae
MXVIII - hosted by cayvie (dsell can you help out here... or anyone else, I can't even remember which players won that game...)
Oh yeah, I made it to the (sort of) endgame of that game. I blocked SK Axxle two nights in a row, which was pretty awesome.I'll go back and see what I can find for XVIII, if we hadn't come up with one already I can try to name one in the next couple days.
I was the surviving WW in that game (fake claimed Seer, was actually rolecop). Eevee went down early with the PR QT call out on D1. My other partner played a crazy gambit the day before the game ended, calling me his partner before being lynched.
Correct Lynch % (with at least 6 lynches) Axxle (82%), Twistedarcher (80 %), Jimmm (71%), yuma (64%)I --think-- I am also at 64% :D. I'm not sure exactly how this is calculated, but I have been a "lyncher" 14 times and have 9 "correct lynches".
Correct Lynch % (with at least 6 lynches) Axxle (82%), Twistedarcher (80 %), Jimmm (71%), yuma (64%)I --think-- I am also at 64% :D. I'm not sure exactly how this is calculated, but I have been a "lyncher" 14 times and have 9 "correct lynches".
Also, we should have stats on % of games NKed, % of games lynched, % of games survived. Those would be interesting.
Oh, hey, mail-mi almost has as bad a win-ratio as I do!Yay someone's rooting for me!
If he loses in MXXVI, he'll tie me. So, I'll be rooting for mail-mi whichever team he's on. Can't be losing my "worst mafia player" badge before yuma has even given it to me :)
Correct Lynch % (with at least 6 lynches) Axxle (82%), Twistedarcher (80 %), Jimmm (71%), yuma (64%)I --think-- I am also at 64% :D. I'm not sure exactly how this is calculated, but I have been a "lyncher" 14 times and have 9 "correct lynches".
Also, we should have stats on % of games NKed, % of games lynched, % of games survived. Those would be interesting.
I also don't qualify for this, I've only had 5 lynches as town
Correct Lynch % (with at least 6 lynches) Axxle (82%), Twistedarcher (80 %), Jimmm (71%), yuma (64%)
Correct Lynch % (with at least 6 lynches) Axxle (82%), Twistedarcher (80 %), Jimmm (71%), yuma (64%)I --think-- I am also at 64% :D. I'm not sure exactly how this is calculated, but I have been a "lyncher" 14 times and have 9 "correct lynches".
Also, we should have stats on % of games NKed, % of games lynched, % of games survived. Those would be interesting.
Someone help me with this, since I'm a computer idiot...Yeah, yuma has to change it from view only to anyone with the link can edit. But I don't know if he wants to do that or not.
I was going to add in some new stats, mostly the ones LIopoil suggested. but when I load the link, it's view only...how do I get it so that it's not view only, and I can edit it as a google doc? Thanks
Someone help me with this, since I'm a computer idiot...Yeah, yuma has to change it from view only to anyone with the link can edit. But I don't know if he wants to do that or not.
I was going to add in some new stats, mostly the ones LIopoil suggested. but when I load the link, it's view only...how do I get it so that it's not view only, and I can edit it as a google doc? Thanks
Someone help me with this, since I'm a computer idiot...Yeah, yuma has to change it from view only to anyone with the link can edit. But I don't know if he wants to do that or not.
I was going to add in some new stats, mostly the ones LIopoil suggested. but when I load the link, it's view only...how do I get it so that it's not view only, and I can edit it as a google doc? Thanks
Yes... I should have clarified... It is locked, but if people want to add stuff they should feel free to do so, but just PM me and ask me to unlock the link... hopefully no one else will go in and mess up my hard work!
Ah, okay, I was confused since Yuma was saying feel free to add in more stuff, but I was unable to! Thanks.
Someone help me with this, since I'm a computer idiot...Yeah, yuma has to change it from view only to anyone with the link can edit. But I don't know if he wants to do that or not.
I was going to add in some new stats, mostly the ones LIopoil suggested. but when I load the link, it's view only...how do I get it so that it's not view only, and I can edit it as a google doc? Thanks
Ah, okay, I was confused since Yuma was saying feel free to add in more stuff, but I was unable to! Thanks.
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When yuma gets a chance, leaders in those categories in the OP would be great. I think those are good metrics for backing up claims like "player X didn't get NKed, they must be scum!"
Scum posting less than town doesn't necessarily mean that LALL is a valid strategy.
There also some stuff that might possibly skew the results, like in the most recent finished game scum got to pick their partners and we only picked very active posters.
I actually wonder if the fact that scum tends to live longer and people tend to post significantly more on later days skews the stats even more?
If you want to analyze LALL, I think you should a) look at the 1-3 lowest posters in a game rather than averages and b) maybe check if your data applies for day earlier days and later days equally.
Lynhing stats as mafia look very interesting. I think there could be definite patterns that could be used as viable evidence in scumhunting.Do you mean this?
"Of the lynches that have occured when you were mafia, how many were you not participating in, how many hit town and you were on the wagon, how many hit scum and you were on the wagon (bussing)?"That would be interesting. I don't think yuma has "off wagon for lynches" stats, though.
"Of the lynches that have occured when you were mafia, how many were you not participating in, how many hit town and you were on the wagon, how many hit scum and you were on the wagon (bussing)?"That would be interesting. I don't think yuma has "off wagon for lynches" stats, though.
I think we've discovered what Yuma can do during his upcoming mafia dry spell
I think we've discovered what Yuma can do during his upcoming mafia dry spell
NO! That was not the intent of this work!
All of this I did during my downtime at work--where I can't play mafia. I still need me my mafia!
^ThisI think we've discovered what Yuma can do during his upcoming mafia dry spell
NO! That was not the intent of this work!
All of this I did during my downtime at work--where I can't play mafia. I still need me my mafia!
Play Coup! It starts tomorrow! Still spots open! :P
I think we've discovered what Yuma can do during his upcoming mafia dry spell
NO! That was not the intent of this work!
All of this I did during my downtime at work--where I can't play mafia. I still need me my mafia!
I guess that this could be reflected back at you. Why aren't you singed up for my game?I think we've discovered what Yuma can do during his upcoming mafia dry spell
NO! That was not the intent of this work!
All of this I did during my downtime at work--where I can't play mafia. I still need me my mafia!
I know you can access QTs from work -- why aren't you in our Modern Community brainstorming QT?
I didn't go through and divide the stats into "as mafia" or "as town" but probably will at somepoint as I think that will have more utility toward determining behavior as a different alignment.Thanks, and I agree.
Would love an update here. I have finally captured a category!I already have one ha ha.
Would love an update here. I have finally captured a category!
How do I have 100% survival rate? I only remember surviving Bankers to the end.
yeah i'm getting better!
% of games lynched as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Archetype 63%, mail-mi 60%, Axxle 55%
% of games lynched as mafia: with at least ~ 3 games played as mafia) ashersky 75%, mail-mi, liopoil & mcmcsalot 66%
yeah i'm getting better!
% of games lynched as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Archetype 63%, mail-mi 60%, Axxle 55%
% of games lynched as mafia: with at least ~ 3 games played as mafia) ashersky 75%, mail-mi, liopoil & mcmcsalot 66%
yeah i'm getting better!
% of games lynched as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Archetype 63%, mail-mi 60%, Axxle 55%
% of games lynched as mafia: with at least ~ 3 games played as mafia) ashersky 75%, mail-mi, liopoil & mcmcsalot 66%
If I get one more game as mafia and get lynched, I'll be at 100%!
+1yeah i'm getting better!
% of games lynched as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Archetype 63%, mail-mi 60%, Axxle 55%
% of games lynched as mafia: with at least ~ 3 games played as mafia) ashersky 75%, mail-mi, liopoil & mcmcsalot 66%
If I get one more game as mafia and get lynched, I'll be at 100%!
We should start auto-lynching you to help you with that.
% of games lynched as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Archetype 63%, mail-mi 60%, Axxle 55%I didn't know my mislynching was really that bad.
Wow, 80% survival rate for me seems crazy high too. I guess it's hard to remember which games count and which don't.
Is there a # of times self-voting category? I must be maybe in 3rd place for that one.
Most wins: Robz (16), Eevee (15), Insomniac & yuma (11)
Most losses: Robz (23), Eevee (21), Galzria (16) & Insomniac (13)
i have. Sock it!Is there a # of times self-voting category? I must be maybe in 3rd place for that one.
Have you ever self hammered as town, though? I think I win that one!
% of games lynched as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Archetype 63%, mail-mi 60%, Axxle 55%
% of games Night Killed as town: (with at least ~ 3 games played as town) Axxle 82%, liopoil & voltgloss 67%,
You should break up "Most times correct lynching" into "as town" and "as scum", as the stat will generally favor those who are scum more often (It's easier to get a correct lynch from a scum perspective than it is from a town perspective).
You should break up "Most times correct lynching" into "as town" and "as scum", as the stat will generally favor those who are scum more often (It's easier to get a correct lynch from a scum perspective than it is from a town perspective).
In fact, I would argue the stat's value almost solely rests in "as town", because when you're scum, there's a tactical decision to be made regarding whether or not you should be on a "correct lynch". As town however, it's always advantageous to correctly lynch.
You should break up "Most times correct lynching" into "as town" and "as scum", as the stat will generally favor those who are scum more often (It's easier to get a correct lynch from a scum perspective than it is from a town perspective).
In fact, I would argue the stat's value almost solely rests in "as town", because when you're scum, there's a tactical decision to be made regarding whether or not you should be on a "correct lynch". As town however, it's always advantageous to correctly lynch.
Isn't that what it is already? The other category is bussing.
I've been lynched 100% of the time as scum.
I like that I am in the top for both highest win % as mafia and highest % lynched as mafia, learning to go down in style!
Do I get positive stat points for being on a scum lynch as scum?
| Game | Player | Was on winning faction? |
| MI | TINAS | Yes-Town Cop |
| MII | Galzria | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MIII | eHalcyon | Yes-Town Jailkeeper |
| MIV | DSell | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MV | Captain_Frisk | Yes-Town Quack Doc |
| MVI | timchen | Yes-Town 1-shot Seer |
| MVII | pingpongsam | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MVIII | O | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MIX | Voltgloss | Yes-SK |
| MX | Eevee | Yes-Town Jailkeeper |
| MXI | eHal | Yes-Town VT |
| MXII | Insomniac | Yes-Mafia JOAT |
| MXIII | Insomniac and Dsell | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXIV | yuma | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXV | Qvist | No-Mafia Cop Switch |
| MXVI | ehunt | Yes-Mafia Roleblocker |
| MXVII | raerae | Yes-Town IC |
| MXVIII | Lekkit | Yes-WW 1-shot Day Vig |
| MXIX | Robz | Yes-Mafia 1-shot Commuter |
| MXX | yuma | Yes-Mafia 1-shot Cop |
| MXXI | liopoil | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXXII | Jorbles | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXXIII | Galzria | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXXIV | TA | Yes-Town IC |
| MXXV | ashersky | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXXVI | yuma | Yes-Town Doc |
| MXXVII | raerae | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXXVIII | UoS | Yes-Town Healer |
| MXXIX | Robz | Yes-Town Roleblocker |
| NMIV | Cuttlebone | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| MXXX | ashersky | Yes-Town VT |
| MXXXI | Robz | Yes-Mafia Mentor |
| MXXXII | chairs | Yes-Town Vig |
| MXXXIII | --- | --- |
| MXXXIV | Eevee | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM1 | Galzria | Yes-Mafia Rolecop |
| ZM2 | Insomniac | Yes-Town Cop |
| ZM3 | SwitchedFromStarcraft | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM4 | Captain_Frisk | Yes-Town VT |
| ZM5 | Robz888 | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM6 | shraeye | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM7 | Captain_Frisk | Yes-Town VT |
| ZM8 | Jimmmm | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM9 | shraeye | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM10 | jotheonah | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM11 | Galzria | Yes-Town Day2 1-shot Vig |
| ZM12 | Jimmmm | Yes-Mafia Goon |
| ZM13 | Eevee | Yes-Town Witch Hunter |
| ZM14 | spiritbears | Yes-Town IC |
| ZM15 | UoS | Yes-Town Macho Cop |
Updated MVPs
Also Qvist remains the lone player to be awarded a MVP but not be on the winning team.
Also Qvist remains the lone player to be awarded a MVP but not be on the winning team.
He's the Viktor Krum of mafia!
Also Qvist remains the lone player to be awarded a MVP but not be on the winning team.
He's the Viktor Krum of mafia!
That happened with me in Shakespeare
oh, I see, you don't put RMM in your stats.
I could do it!oh, I see, you don't put RMM in your stats.
no, if someone wanted to go through and compile them I would willingly include them, but am not wanting to do the work myself....
I could do it!oh, I see, you don't put RMM in your stats.
no, if someone wanted to go through and compile them I would willingly include them, but am not wanting to do the work myself....
Which ones should/shouldn't I pull from?
Alright. I know some of the RMM/BM are unbalanced (...DoMafia...), but I'll just grab everything and if anyone has any serious objections than they can speak up.I could do it!oh, I see, you don't put RMM in your stats.
no, if someone wanted to go through and compile them I would willingly include them, but am not wanting to do the work myself....
Which ones should/shouldn't I pull from?
Really any of them I think. I have all the normal/newbie/blitz so RMM and BM. I know some of them don't have MVPs listed anywhere so I guess get the ones that you can and have time to get. But I would focus on the RMM ones first as BM gets a little too silly to have MVPs sometimes.
Still cruisin at a solid 0% win rate lol. Consistency is my strong suit.The only way is up!
This includes blitz, right?
I'm thinking I've moved up a few of these categories. I'm at 4 wins in 5 tries as scum in regular games.
Still cruisin at a solid 0% win rate lol. Consistency is my strong suit.The only way is up!
These stats somehow make it seem I'm actually good for my team whereas my recent performances certainly have me feel exactly the opposite. Hmmh.
And, yet again, I'm not on any of the lists...Hah! I've been lynched 80% of the time as mafia!
So I wasn't planning on using Hangman for official stats as it was a variant--with the introduction of hangman letter/word guessing I felt it put it more on the RMM side in terms of mechanic if not roles in the same way that Language Mafia I am not including either.
So I wasn't planning on using Hangman for official stats as it was a variant--with the introduction of hangman letter/word guessing I felt it put it more on the RMM side in terms of mechanic if not roles in the same way that Language Mafia I am not including either.
I'd disagree, but it's your statsheet. I'd disagree because the mechanic was open, not closed. I saw it more as an "Invented/Open Blitz" setup.
So I wasn't planning on using Hangman for official stats as it was a variant--with the introduction of hangman letter/word guessing I felt it put it more on the RMM side in terms of mechanic if not roles in the same way that Language Mafia I am not including either.
I'd disagree, but it's your statsheet. I'd disagree because the mechanic was open, not closed. I saw it more as an "Invented/Open Blitz" setup.
Agreed with ash here. I think including all blitz is better than picking which ones to include as we'll.
Do we have stats on day 1 scum lynches? In particular how often they have resulted in town wins?
plus a day 1 serial killer lynch in XV
Do we have stats on day 1 scum lynches? In particular how often they have resulted in town wins?
In regularly numbered games, the only game I can think where town lost after lynching scum on Day 1 was Bankers Beware, which was Mafia XXII. Day 1 lynches of scum were themselves incredibly rare until recently. It first happened in XI, and next in XVII I believe. And then... not again until XXII.
Just pulled the data on this...
Excluding Blitz and RMM games:
Lynched Scum Day1 Town Won?
MXI - Grujah Yes
MXV - Galz (SK) Yes
MXVII - Lekkit Yes
MXXII - Kooshie No
MXXIV - Winterspartan Yes
MXXVIII - chairs Yes
MXXX - mail-mi Yes
MXXXII - sudgy (SK) Yes
MXXXIX - raerae Yes
So we have 9 scum lynched (7 mafia and 2 SK) with only 1 scum team pulling out the victory in the end.
Just pulled the data on this...
Excluding Blitz and RMM games:
Lynched Scum Day1 Town Won?
MXI - Grujah Yes
MXV - Galz (SK) Yes
MXVII - Lekkit Yes
MXXII - Kooshie No
MXXIV - Winterspartan Yes
MXXVIII - chairs Yes
MXXX - mail-mi Yes
MXXXII - sudgy (SK) Yes
MXXXIX - raerae Yes
So we have 9 scum lynched (7 mafia and 2 SK) with only 1 scum team pulling out the victory in the end.
I don't think SK is relly comparable though. I guess both of those were wins, but wasn't the SK lynch actually detrimental to town in the switch setup ?
I so totally argued against the sudgy lynch because it looked like a bad lynch that I would argue against, not because I was scum and knew sudgy was town. The fact that I was scum had very little to do with it. It did influence my town-read on ashersky.