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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: majiponi on May 20, 2016, 06:29:36 am

Title: Throne variant, BoM, a card which removes itself from play, and Duration
Post by: majiponi on May 20, 2016, 06:29:36 am
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I played King's Court to choose  Band of Misfits.
I played Band of Misfits as Embargo.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
I played Band of Misfits as Caravan.

Does King's Court remain in play until the Cleanup of the next turn? How about next one?
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I played King's Court to choose  Band of Misfits.
I played Band of Misfits as Embargo.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
Title: Re: Throne variant, BoM, a card which removes itself from play, and Duration
Post by: Jeebus on May 20, 2016, 10:21:54 am
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I played King's Court to choose  Band of Misfits.
I played Band of Misfits as Embargo.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
I played Band of Misfits as Caravan.

Does King's Court remain in play until the Cleanup of the next turn?
No, because KC did not ever play a Duration card. Each time, KC played a BoM, then you chose a card, and then BoM played itself as that card.

How about next one?
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I played King's Court to choose  Band of Misfits.
I played Band of Misfits as Embargo.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
Exact same situation.
Title: Re: Throne variant, BoM, a card which removes itself from play, and Duration
Post by: majiponi on May 20, 2016, 10:29:49 am
King's Court indirectly plays Duration, that's why?
Title: Re: Throne variant, BoM, a card which removes itself from play, and Duration
Post by: Accatitippi on May 20, 2016, 02:03:42 pm
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I played King's Court to choose  Band of Misfits.
I played Band of Misfits as Embargo.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
I played Band of Misfits as Caravan.

Does King's Court remain in play until the Cleanup of the next turn?
No, because KC did not ever play a Duration card. Each time, KC played a BoM, then you chose a card, and then BoM played itself as that card.

How about next one?
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I played King's Court to choose  Band of Misfits.
I played Band of Misfits as Embargo.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
I played Band of Misfits as Fishing Village.
Exact same situation.

So, if I were to count how many actions I've played this turn, they would be 7, right? (KC - BoM - Embargo - BoM - FV - BoM - Caravan)

While if I KC a Band of Misfits as Village they would only be 5, right?
King's Court - BoM - Village - Village - Village
Not that it matters, but I want to check that I understand how BoM works.

King's Court indirectly plays Duration, that's why?
If I understand this correctly, it's because it was BoM, not KC, who instructed you to play the Duration.
Title: Re: Throne variant, BoM, a card which removes itself from play, and Duration
Post by: Jeebus on May 20, 2016, 02:25:28 pm
So, if I were to count how many actions I've played this turn, they would be 7, right? (KC - BoM - Embargo - BoM - FV - BoM - Caravan)

While if I KC a Band of Misfits as Village they would only be 5, right?
King's Court - BoM - Village - Village - Village
Not that it matters, but I want to check that I understand how BoM works.
Yes, according to my understanding.

If I understand this correctly, it's because it was BoM, not KC, who instructed you to play the Duration.
Correct.

More in this thread. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13115.msg488653#msg488653)
Title: Re: Throne variant, BoM, a card which removes itself from play, and Duration
Post by: dane-m on May 21, 2016, 05:23:45 am
Just in case I'm not the only person who has been having trouble understanding what was going on in these scenarios, I'll explain both the problem I was having and why I shouldn't have been having it.

My problem was that I didn't initially see how BoM was managing to be played as BoM (and hence get to play itself as three different cards) every time by KC.  I coped with the first two because BoM as Embargo has trashed itself so had left play and become BoM again, but I then found myself thinking something along the lines "but Fishing Village doesn't trash itself so how is BoM managing to become BoM again for its third play?"  Only very belatedly did I remember that BoM was of course in the trash after its first play so only ever became another card for an instant. Perhaps if I'd been playing with physical cards I'd have remembered this rather more rapidly.