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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: Tombolo on June 17, 2014, 10:41:43 am

Title: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Tombolo on June 17, 2014, 10:41:43 am
Even if they're the correct play!

I just had Mercenary with $7 and two Provinces, so I trashed those Provinces to afford the last and get the win.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: GendoIkari on June 17, 2014, 12:02:53 pm
I once trashed a Fool's Gold to Spice Merchant so that I would have +buy to use on my 5 other Fool's Golds.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: SCSN on June 17, 2014, 12:14:28 pm
I once bought a second Silver.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: LastFootnote on June 17, 2014, 12:27:47 pm
I once bought a second Silver.

I'm disappointed that you bought a first Silver. :'(
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: werothegreat on June 17, 2014, 12:35:26 pm
Really, any time you spend $8 or more on a +Buy card because there was never a good hand to pick one up earlier and now you have too much money.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: enfynet on June 17, 2014, 01:09:45 pm
I'm waiting for AdamH to reply, because you know what he always says.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: BraveBear on June 17, 2014, 01:25:53 pm
I remember one of AdamH's games where he trashed a platinum with spice merchant for plus cards and it won him the game.

Sadly I only do things in dominion that feel good so I don't have an example of my own.  Maybe that's why I'm mediocre....
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Flip5ide on June 17, 2014, 02:00:45 pm
I can never bring myself to buy a Duchy over a Province in a Duke game...
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Awaclus on June 17, 2014, 03:28:10 pm
I can never bring myself to buy a Duchy over a Province in a Duke game...
I do it a lot in regular Province games. Especially if Rebuild is involved.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: AdamH on June 17, 2014, 03:52:43 pm
I remember one of AdamH's games where he trashed a platinum with spice merchant for plus cards and it won him the game.

I remember that game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBYTik_F2u8&t=18m40s)

It is true that "If it feels good, do it;" but the inverse ("If it doesn't feel good, don't do it") is NOT true. Sometimes you have to do painful things, like buy a Duchy (It's one of those painful dukeys).

I remember a BM-ish game where I bought a Duchy at the top of my shuffle with 8 Provinces still left in the supply because I was certain the rest of my draws that shuffle would give me Province that shuffle and I'd wish I had the Duchy. Turns out that play won me the game.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Davio on June 17, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
I think I gave my opponent a free Province with Ambassador on more than one occasion.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: eHalcyon on June 17, 2014, 04:13:29 pm
I can never bring myself to buy a Duchy over a Province in a Duke game...
I do it a lot in regular Province games. Especially if Rebuild is involved.

Is that actually the right move?  The goal is to get Duchies and Rebuild them into Provinces.  If you can afford a Province outright, it should be better to just get that instead of a Duchy.  Skip a step, be one Province closer to ending the game, and your Rebuild play can hit one of your other Duchies instead.

For regular Province games, I suppose you are talking about PPR.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: SCSN on June 17, 2014, 04:22:50 pm
I can never bring myself to buy a Duchy over a Province in a Duke game...
I do it a lot in regular Province games. Especially if Rebuild is involved.

Is that actually the right move?

No.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Awaclus on June 17, 2014, 04:38:11 pm
Is that actually the right move?
If you win the Duchy split because of it, sometimes (for example, if your opponent still has Estates, Feasts or other stuff that is almost useless with the Duchies gone).
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: werothegreat on June 17, 2014, 11:22:05 pm
The first time I Remodeled a Province into a Province felt weird.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: assemble_me on June 18, 2014, 04:06:58 am
I remember one of AdamH's games where he trashed a platinum with spice merchant for plus cards and it won him the game.

I remember that game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBYTik_F2u8&t=18m40s)

It is true that "If it feels good, do it;" but the inverse ("If it doesn't feel good, don't do it") is NOT true. Sometimes you have to do painful things, like buy a Duchy (It's one of those painful dukeys).
I remember you said that in one of your videos, too ;)

I'm such a fan boy ::)
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: liopoil on June 18, 2014, 10:15:24 am
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 10:30:08 am
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

I feels even more weird when I buy 10 curses to win a game.
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Post by: DG on June 18, 2014, 10:40:40 am
Mining treasures into lower cost cards.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: werothegreat on June 18, 2014, 11:49:08 am
Buying a Potion.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: sudgy on June 18, 2014, 01:27:49 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: liopoil on June 18, 2014, 01:28:09 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Awaclus on June 18, 2014, 01:32:25 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 01:59:23 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: liopoil on June 18, 2014, 02:00:35 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.
I don't even have avatars on... I can't see anyone's avatar :P
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 02:15:32 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.
I don't even have avatars on... I can't see anyone's avatar :P

Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: LastFootnote on June 18, 2014, 02:57:54 pm
Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...

Or am I?

(For posterity: At the time of posting this, I had Mystic as my avatar.)
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: sudgy on June 18, 2014, 03:07:52 pm
Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...

Or am I?

I am not joking, I saw this post and was thinking, "Why did SCSN say that?  Nothing changed..."
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: werothegreat on June 18, 2014, 03:08:37 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.
I don't even have avatars on... I can't see anyone's avatar :P

Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...

And I am the Platinum pyramid all-seeing eye of doom.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: silverspawn on June 18, 2014, 03:15:51 pm
Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...

Or am I?

please don't...
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 03:17:48 pm
Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...

Or am I?

I am not joking, I saw this post and was thinking, "Why did SCSN say that?  Nothing changed..."

That was crazy for me. I looked and saw SCSN posted, then saw sudgy's post saying nothing changed and thought that nothing actually changed and then looked back and the name changed! It was LastFootNote!!
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: markusin on June 18, 2014, 03:59:33 pm
Then you should change your picture back to Chapel. You're destroying my world! You're Chapel, SCSN is Mystic, I'm Marauder, LastFootNote is IGG etc...

Or am I?

I am not joking, I saw this post and was thinking, "Why did SCSN say that?  Nothing changed..."

That was crazy for me. I looked and saw SCSN posted, then saw sudgy's post saying nothing changed and thought that nothing actually changed and then looked back and the name changed! It was LastFootNote!!
Ditto.

Edit: Have you seen Blueblimp's avatar recently?
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: eHalcyon on June 18, 2014, 04:13:04 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.

I totally agree.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: eHalcyom on June 18, 2014, 04:14:54 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.

I totally agree.

Me too.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: LastFootnote on June 18, 2014, 04:24:36 pm
please don't...

Ha ha, no worries. It was just a joke.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 04:24:38 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.

I totally agree.

Why is everyone changing their picture as they agree with me? It's very annoying.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: markusin on June 18, 2014, 04:28:54 pm
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

It should be forbidden to change your picture after you used one for a while. I totally associate cards with people on f.ds.

I totally agree.

Me too.
Welcome to the Forum!
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: SheCanSayNo on June 18, 2014, 04:31:34 pm
LOL ENGINES SUCK!
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Titandrake on June 18, 2014, 04:32:01 pm
Mining a Gold into a Potion to maintain my Alchemist stack.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Awaclus on June 18, 2014, 04:42:18 pm
Nobody noticed when I changed my avatar a while ago.  :'(
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 04:45:28 pm
Nobody noticed when I changed my avatar a while ago.  :'(

I always remember it as the red A
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: qmech on June 18, 2014, 04:56:31 pm
Nobody noticed when I changed my avatar a while ago.  :'(

No wonder, Axxle, if you changed your name too.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Awaclus on June 18, 2014, 05:00:20 pm
Nobody noticed when I changed my avatar a while ago.  :'(

I always remember it as the red A
It wasn't always constructed of polygons!
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Qvist on June 18, 2014, 06:26:42 pm
Playing with Rebuild
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Flip5ide on June 18, 2014, 07:38:24 pm
Ambassadoring 2 coppers and buying nothing when you have an estate in your hand.

Chapelling all of your cards, in the same situation.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 08:43:42 pm
Ambassadoring 2 coppers and buying nothing when you have an estate in your hand.

Chapelling all of your cards, in the same situation.

That only feels wrong for a bit. I quickly started feeling good just getting my Ambassador on turn 3 or 4 and not turn 5.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: -Stef- on June 19, 2014, 04:03:10 am
Ambassadoring 2 copies of a card that I want to have myself, just to get the piles back up & delay a 3-pile.

nostalgia (http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20130309-055624-db2b1ff1.html)
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Davio on June 19, 2014, 04:34:43 am
Playing Militia and then Torturer or Masquerade always feels a little wrong.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: liopoil on June 19, 2014, 10:57:16 am
Ambassadoring 2 copies of a card that I want to have myself, just to get the piles back up & delay a 3-pile.

nostalgia (http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20130309-055624-db2b1ff1.html)
that log... so cool. 41 turns... ambassador war lasts 26 turns, then stef buys a curse to continue it... (and because he needs to stop rabid from continuing to green as well as give him negative points)... but when Rabid moves for the three -pile, and stef is 30 points behind and is a little bit away from getting a colony a turn, he ambassadors all his FG back to the supply... and then later some mining villages.

I've had the buying a curse and ambassadoring them all to my opponent thing win the game for me multiple times, but this is just a whole lot cooler.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: sudgy on June 20, 2014, 07:04:42 pm
I finally for the first time did the whole "Give opponent a province with ambassador to end the game".  I was going to win anyway though, it just sped it up a bit.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: DG on June 20, 2014, 07:37:56 pm
I finally for the first time did the whole "Give opponent a province with ambassador to end the game".  I was going to win anyway though, it just sped it up a bit.

In a four player game it speeds things up a lot.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 21, 2014, 12:44:32 pm
Choosing to gain a Scout.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: GwinnR on June 22, 2014, 11:33:59 am
Choosing to gain a Scout.
Sorry, we can't count this. I think the question is, which plays FEEL wrong and not which plays ARE wrong.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: enfynet on June 22, 2014, 12:38:42 pm
Fortune teller vs Nobles/Scout?
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2014, 04:50:46 pm
Choosing to gain a Scout.
Sorry, we can't count this. I think the question is, which plays FEEL wrong and not which plays ARE wrong.
A lot of plays that feel wrong, are wrong, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Witherweaver on June 26, 2014, 04:36:35 pm
Gaining a Duchess when buying a Duchy.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Donald X. on June 26, 2014, 06:23:23 pm
Gaining a Duchess when buying a Duchy.
I always picture it like the old joke where the model is standing next to the car. "Do you come with the Duchy?" Yes, yes she does.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: werothegreat on June 26, 2014, 06:42:02 pm
Gaining a Duchess when buying a Duchy.
I always picture it like the old joke where the model is standing next to the car. "Do you come with the Duchy?" Yes, yes she does.

Dukes cost $5 while Duchesses cost $2 or even come FREE!?!?!?  END THE PAY GAP
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Jasoba on July 07, 2014, 11:24:13 am
Gaining stuff from mountebank if you could discard a curse.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: LastFootnote on July 07, 2014, 11:48:54 am
Gaining stuff from mountebank if you could discard a curse.

I love choosing to take Coppers in order to power my Counting Houses once the Curses are gone.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Tombolo on July 08, 2014, 03:36:48 pm
I had a Taxman in hand and a spare action....but I had $8 and we were on the last province.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: petrie911 on July 09, 2014, 02:50:43 pm
I played a game with Mint, Fool's Gold, and Thief. My opponent goes first, lays down $5, and buys Mint. I looked at the $4 in my hand, sighed, and bought Thief.

I ended up winning that game, and I think that Thief was part of it. But man, opening Thief felt so wrong.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Holger on July 15, 2014, 07:06:00 am
Gaining a Duchess when buying a Duchy.

Buying a Duchess.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: terminalCopper on July 15, 2014, 05:09:49 pm
Beating an interesting engine your opponent played with rebuild.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: SK on July 15, 2014, 08:49:11 pm
Choosing Diadem over Followers, Steed, and Princess.
Title: Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
Post by: Sidsel on July 16, 2014, 09:27:33 am
I finally for the first time did the whole "Give opponent a province with ambassador to end the game".  I was going to win anyway though, it just sped it up a bit.

I did that with colonies in a three-player... A slight miscounting; there were three colonies left, not two, but I still won. And it confused my opponents no end.  ;D