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Author Topic: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill - TOWN WINS - PM for Spec QT.  (Read 43556 times)

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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #400 on: January 23, 2013, 03:37:57 pm »

Hi all, I'm semi-here, but don't expect anything substantial for the next 9 hours. Just a thought I had (WIFOM alert!), if Eevee was Town I would have thought he'd've been a great target for the nightkill.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #401 on: January 23, 2013, 03:39:09 pm »

Hi all, I'm semi-here, but don't expect anything substantial for the next 9 hours. Just a thought I had (WIFOM alert!), if Eevee was Town I would have thought he'd've been a great target for the nightkill.

Why?
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #402 on: January 23, 2013, 03:45:07 pm »

I think he's come under less suspicion than Munch, although maybe that's just me thinking of him as always Townie. Galz has mentioned a scumread on him come to think of it, so I don't know.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #403 on: January 23, 2013, 03:54:16 pm »

galz you have played with eevee much more then me and I am not confident he is town so I don't think viging him is a bad idea,
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #404 on: January 23, 2013, 04:02:29 pm »

So if he doesn't die we just lynch him right? Ie we don't try for another vig.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #405 on: January 23, 2013, 04:02:49 pm »

(If mcmc is a vig too.)
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #406 on: January 23, 2013, 04:05:50 pm »

galz you have played with eevee much more then me and I am not confident he is town so I don't think viging him is a bad idea,

I'm not at all convinced he's town either - in fact I've read him much more scummy than not. It's just that Jimmm's play raises SO many subconscious red flags that I can't explain. He just FEELS like classic scum hiding to me.

But... Outside your read on Cuzz in ZM-X, your reads have been pretty good so far, so... Let's do this then. Sending Ins my PM (and hoping I have the strength not to change the name at the last minute!)

((By the way, I think Axxle here is your Cuzz of Blitz-X. I fully understand why you find him scummy - it's for those exact reasons that I don't though))

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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #407 on: January 23, 2013, 04:06:28 pm »

Also, I tend to think Galz should only vig if mcmc is one too.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #408 on: January 23, 2013, 04:07:32 pm »

It's just that Jimmm's play raises SO many subconscious red flags that I can't explain. He just FEELS like classic scum hiding to me.

I understand why you think that, and I'm here and at your service. If you have any involved tasks for me they'll have to wait, but I certainly have no reason to hide.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #409 on: January 23, 2013, 04:10:50 pm »

BANG!

The echo of the gunfire reaches me up here on the mountain, I look down to see what the town has done and I see Eevee in a crumpled mess in the center of the square. As I watch his normal complexion fades to that of a green one, seems the town has nagged a witch!


Eevee has been killed. He was a witch
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #410 on: January 23, 2013, 04:11:39 pm »

Bang bang.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 1) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #411 on: January 23, 2013, 04:12:50 pm »

Vote Count 2-3

Not Voting (6) - mcmcsalot, Archetype, Axxle, Jimmmmm, Drab Emordnilap, Galzria

With 6 Alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: 8:40am PST (11:40am forum time [EST]) Thursday January 24, 2013

Eevee is no longer allowed to post in daychat.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #412 on: January 23, 2013, 04:16:40 pm »

Hooray!

Although this looks bad on me, I think.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #413 on: January 23, 2013, 04:17:37 pm »

Oh snap! Nice.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #414 on: January 23, 2013, 04:21:56 pm »

yay, he picked investigate proof. Well I can say now, I am also a vig.

Galz I can totally see what your saying about axxle and I am taking that into consideration. So my best choice would be drab at this point but we should look to see what teams look right with eevee.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #415 on: January 23, 2013, 04:22:54 pm »

Now if mcmc is a vig he needs to shoot someone. I don't even care if it's me.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #416 on: January 23, 2013, 04:24:47 pm »

yay, he picked investigate proof. Well I can say now, I am also a vig.

Galz I can totally see what your saying about axxle and I am taking that into consideration. So my best choice would be drab at this point but we should look to see what teams look right with eevee.

I tell you what, it would be awfully weird for Eevee to be so friendly towards me on day 1 if we were the scum team.

I know you guys are convinced axxle is too crazy to be scum, but that's still my vote. Or Jimmmmm.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #417 on: January 23, 2013, 04:25:01 pm »

Now if mcmc is a vig he needs to shoot someone. I don't even care if it's me.

Why in the world would I shoot you...
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #418 on: January 23, 2013, 04:27:36 pm »

Now if mcmc is a vig he needs to shoot someone. I don't even care if it's me.

Why in the world would I shoot you...

No idea, but I just mean if we end up mislynching today, then shooting me (or another Townie) is better than not shooting at all, since there will then be less Townies around to mislynch at lylo tomorrow. Obviously I'd rather you shoot scum and win it for us.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #419 on: January 23, 2013, 04:27:40 pm »

yay, he picked investigate proof. Well I can say now, I am also a vig.

Galz I can totally see what your saying about axxle and I am taking that into consideration. So my best choice would be drab at this point but we should look to see what teams look right with eevee.

Drab is my first choice at the moment as well, but I'll do some pairs analysis in a bit.

Ultimately I think at a very base level he could be partners with anybody.

He wasn't pushing the Robz wagon, and I would like to think that there WAS scum there, which points to Arche/Drab, but if scum could get by without being on that wagon at all I think they would've done so.

Eh, I'm thinking to much from memory. I'll go back and look at facts in a bit.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #420 on: January 23, 2013, 04:39:39 pm »

maybe classic one scum on one scum off the mislynch?
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #421 on: January 23, 2013, 04:41:22 pm »

So, Jimmm?  Meh, doubt it.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #422 on: January 23, 2013, 04:48:21 pm »

Galzria - Fool
mcmcsalot - Fool

Off wagon:
Jimmmmm
Axxle

On wagon:
Drab Emordnilap
Archetype


I'm wondering what we can pick out from this:
So, tldr, conclusion:

Town reads on Axxle and Jimm. Galzria and Axxle can't both be scum. I actually agree with Galzria's sentiment about Munch in that I agree with him a lot more than usual, but I don't know what to make of that. Hesitant light town read? Top scum read probably mcmc, he has given me emotion-based town reads earlier that have turned out to be correct, so I feel comfortable reading him. He doesn't feel towny here to me, maybe he just hasn't gotten online time to prove his towniness, but the posting he has done hasn't felt like the town mcmc I've identified in the past. Also slightly worried of Robz because he feels to be surprisingly nicely in the background (not blaming you for this Robz, it's just that usually people line up to mislynch you for terrible reasons and I get to defend you because your reaction just screams town to me, hasnt happened here). Null on Arch, although he usually reads scummy to me so I don't know what that means.

I'll be online for the following 8 hours, which is great because playing catch up in blitz is pretty hard.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #423 on: January 23, 2013, 04:51:37 pm »

So drab is the person I would like to shoot but arch just isn't around and has been no help recently, he needs to get in here and give something for me to go on.
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Re: ZMXI: The Fool on the Hill (Day 2) - PM for Spec QT.
« Reply #424 on: January 23, 2013, 05:02:10 pm »

So drab is the person I would like to shoot but arch just isn't around and has been no help recently, he needs to get in here and give something for me to go on.

Finished rereading Eevee. He has pretty prominent interactions with Axxle and Drab early on (at least, he took "stances" on those two). There is almost NO interaction with Archetype however, which I find interesting.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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