Catching up from 5 pages back:
Fine lets make it active, vote: axxle Constant pressure of a player screams scum to me. It is obvious play so noone expects scum to just come out and push, it also makes you seem active and overall townie regardless of the actual validity of the case
I don't agree with mcmc here. He is someone I tend to have a town bias on, but this just seems like mafia seeing someone who is a little too bold and trying to drive a mislynch. I lean towards town on Axxle, as per my theory of people who draw a lot of attention to themselves always flipping town.
...so I basically agree with this:
But you are wrong my brother. Axxle is almost certainly town. He's driving conversation! That's a very town thing to do, when like no one is saying anything.
Now, Drab is just excited to be playing his first game--and who could blame him! So him driving the convo isn't much of a tell.
Well, I wouldn't say almost certainly, but as certainly as one can be with this little to go on. I also agree with the town read on Drab, those would be my two biggest at this point.
You dont understand. Here we call out lurkers with a vote. They respond "oh hey sorry guys." Then everyone unvotes. No one actually follows through with lynching lurkers, rather unfortunately.
Hmm, maybe I should look into being a lurker then! Apparently the obligations are minimal and the benefits package is notable.
Haha, welldone.
Ok here now. Done reading.
Scummish read on Axxle
Town on Eevee and Munchy
Any explanations for these? What I recall of my play last night (before I went to sleeps) is that I had been awake for 26 hours and didn't post a whole lot. Seems sort of weird to have town read on me, but on the other hand it's not like you were under pressure and would have had to lie if you were scum, so uh. I think it's a null tell, maybe I'm just asking this so I'll know how to act in the future go get town cred.
Also don't understand the town read on Munch (what has he done to deserve it: post good strategy?) or the scum read on Axxle (well, I do, I just disagree in what his behavior is an indicator of).
.. I see Robz again posted what I would have posted. I don't remember if the Robz that thinks awfully similar to me is scum or town (both probably), but worth noting because I found it amusing. Pre-buddying up to me!
.. I see archetype did explain his town read on me. Makes sense.
I'm awake!
Permit me a little theory talk?
I think the point of this game is to create a setup in which it is disadvantageous for our IC variants to claim on day 1. As such I think they shouldn't claim except to save themselves.
From a Witch's point of view, bulletproof seems pointless, since if they are vig-attempted they're caught out anyway (although I like the flavour behind it - if you survive the test you're a Witch, if you die you're innocent). From a Fool's point of view, then, Cop seems utterly pointless, since the chance of getting scum result is really low, and a Town result is virtually meaningless. Which of course makes bulletproof slightly more attractive to a Witch because then they can at least try to argue their way out of it.
I actually think Neighbourizer is better than it's being given credit for. It's a great way for Fools to back up their claim if they are counter-claimed, or to set up a Masonry between the two Fools in the absence of counter-claims.
This did a surprisingly good job of summing up all our theory talk in one post. Points for Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I agree, points for being good in theory, very good post! I don't think being good in theory is an indication of alignment though. I appreciate the post and I'm not saying he is using that as scum to get town cred.. but why couldn't he. I think that post is evidence of Jimmm being good at articulating theory, and has very little or nothing to do with his alignment.
Ooh, first really interesting post of the game. Galzria, what do you think this tells of Axxles alignment? Axxle, what do you think this tells of Galzria? (I don't know if you have answered yet.)
Basically, Galzria got pissed. That's usually town Galzria (although this obviously wasn't over the line or anything, I don't mean to imply that). On the other hand, it could be read as being too defensive and over-reacting to Axxle's "case" which was largely jokes. But nah, I don't think so, it seemed Galzria was just frustrated of Axxle mischaracterizing his play. I don't know, I lean slight town towards Galzria, although I don't like this trend of always thinking he is town when he gets frustrated.
Robz, I really don't care if you vote for me, but I hope it's not because I wasn't here at the beginning.
This is fair I think. Nothing Arch has done or hasn't done has made him change his scumscore in my mind yet.
Okay, I see Galz answered my question above here:
Eh, what can I say? I think this is scum!Axxle. He's put absolutely nothing of value together this game, and has literally spent more than 1/3 of his game thusfar pushing completely false and non-existent cases. Further, any time anybody has tried to say anything useful, he's gone out of his way to suppress those statements. I don't think town!Axxle would go out of his way to play a really bad game, but I could see Scum!Axxle, who's known for lurking, going as far out of his way to blow up his post count with something so beyond aggressive most people will look and go "Nope, that's not scum!Axxle".
So I'm comfortable putting my Vote: Axxle down until he actually starts contributing in a meaningful way.
Well, to me this cements Axxle and Galzria pretty much can't be a scumpair. Either could be town while other is scum or both could be town still, but do we agree on them being the witches being very unlike?
I agree that italicising makes it confusing. It also makes those who use italic votes very noncommittal.
Agreed, didn't even realized Arche had "voted" before I went back.
Jimm's way of catching up due to missing action because of the timezones feels very similar. Also really good catch up posts I very much agreed with, town read on him.
I agree with Jimmm in finding Robz's attempts to game his meta annoying.
Galz, why the scum-ish read on me? Is it just a PoE for being asleep and not being here to contribute, or something I actually have done?
So, tldr, conclusion:
Town reads on Axxle and Jimm. Galzria and Axxle can't both be scum. I actually agree with Galzria's sentiment about Munch in that I agree with him a lot more than usual, but I don't know what to make of that. Hesitant light town read? Top scum read probably mcmc, he has given me emotion-based town reads earlier that have turned out to be correct, so I feel comfortable reading him. He doesn't feel towny here to me, maybe he just hasn't gotten online time to prove his towniness, but the posting he has done hasn't felt like the town mcmc I've identified in the past. Also slightly worried of Robz because he feels to be surprisingly nicely in the background (not blaming you for this Robz, it's just that usually people line up to mislynch you for terrible reasons and I get to defend you because your reaction just screams town to me, hasnt happened here). Null on Arch, although he usually reads scummy to me so I don't know what that means.
I'll be online for the following 8 hours, which is great because playing catch up in blitz is pretty hard.
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