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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #850 on: December 25, 2015, 09:28:32 am »

I sort of don't want to say which way I'm leaning to not help out scum, but given it's pretty much a one or the other situation, is this the type of situation where we want to have only the IC's deciding?
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #851 on: December 25, 2015, 09:32:22 am »

I sort of don't want to say which way I'm leaning to not help out scum, but given it's pretty much a one or the other situation, is this the type of situation where we want to have only the IC's deciding?

first you say my system that does nothing except to include the ICs into the voting process is bad, and then you say that you want to have just the ICs decide? How does that fit together?

since ash is an IC, this has a higher chance of resulting in a loss, so I don't like it.

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #852 on: December 25, 2015, 10:24:16 am »

Upon making the first statement, it wasn't really a clear player A or player B situation (to me, anyways). Now votes don't really matter as much anyways, we just have to decide between lynching Hydrad and you it seems.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #853 on: December 25, 2015, 10:48:28 am »

That does make sense.

Okay, I'm pretty sure that thinking more about it will swing things in favor of a Hydrad lynch. I just don't like valuing someone's opinion more who's probably dead set on the wrong choice for the rest of the game.

If 1 scum is among Hydrad and me, there's just one more total around, so why not let everyone decide?

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #854 on: December 25, 2015, 11:05:27 am »

Everyone includes scum, doesn't that objectively make it a worse decision making process for town?
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #855 on: December 25, 2015, 11:12:35 am »

Everyone includes scum, doesn't that objectively make it a worse decision making process for town?

from your PoV, maybe. From mine, I already know that ash is voting for me, I have no idea what you and Joseph will think, so the chances are clearly worse than if everyone decides.

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #856 on: December 25, 2015, 11:21:15 am »

Everyone includes scum, doesn't that objectively make it a worse decision making process for town?

from your PoV, maybe. From mine, I already know that ash is voting for me, I have no idea what you and Joseph will think, so the chances are clearly worse than if everyone decides.
Yeah, but we can't know you are town, so..

Obviously it's not my decision, but I think it's better if this is decided by town.


Ash, why are you so sure? I think silver is making a lot of sense, and Hydrad seems like the better vote. I trust your intuition better than mine (and I haven't done any rereads yet), but Hydrad not being lynched yesterday seems like a huge sign towards him being scum.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #857 on: December 25, 2015, 11:44:24 am »

Vote: Hydrad
It doesn't feel good, but I don't care. My gut is awful at anything.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #858 on: December 25, 2015, 12:22:03 pm »

And so is RR.
Because I'm scummier or less helpful? Or both?

Because you're scum and he's not.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #859 on: December 25, 2015, 12:22:20 pm »

when I get time today I think i'll actually be able to post a comment with content!

although it probably won't help.

It would also be hilarious if both me and ss are town. but I'm feeling pretty confident thats not the case.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #860 on: December 25, 2015, 12:22:52 pm »

also SS/Awaclus is highest chance of scum team.

Just want to say that before the game ends.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #861 on: December 25, 2015, 12:24:26 pm »

I think SS is the reason we didn't get a lynch yesterday.  Scum loved the no lynch.

I'm the reason you all forgot the deadline was approaching? Gee, I didn't realize I had those kinds of powers.

and it doesn't really make any sense, either. Hydrad was about to get lynched - whom you must think to be town. In what world does scum prefer no-lynch over town-lynch?

In the situation where they can absolutely prime the firefighter without fear.

You came up with the fake voting system that kept people from casting real votes, which is why we didn't lynch anyone.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #862 on: December 25, 2015, 12:29:52 pm »

I think SS is the reason we didn't get a lynch yesterday.  Scum loved the no lynch.

I'm the reason you all forgot the deadline was approaching? Gee, I didn't realize I had those kinds of powers.

and it doesn't really make any sense, either. Hydrad was about to get lynched - whom you must think to be town. In what world does scum prefer no-lynch over town-lynch?

In the situation where they can absolutely prime the firefighter without fear.

You came up with the fake voting system that kept people from casting real votes, which is why we didn't lynch anyone.
Then he comes up with some excuse 'we wouldn't have hammered anyway,' which he can't be sure about and probably isn't true.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #863 on: December 25, 2015, 12:40:21 pm »

I sort of don't want to say which way I'm leaning to not help out scum, but given it's pretty much a one or the other situation, is this the type of situation where we want to have only the IC's deciding?

I guess that would be true in a vacuum, but in this particular case, I'm inclined to believe that an IC is wrong.

You came up with the fake voting system that kept people from casting real votes, which is why we didn't lynch anyone.

What kept people from casting real votes was not the fake voting system, it was the fact that nobody got hammered under the fake voting system. The fake voting system did in no way contribute towards that being the case.

Then he comes up with some excuse 'we wouldn't have hammered anyway,' which he can't be sure about and probably isn't true.

We can totally be 100% be sure about it.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #864 on: December 26, 2015, 02:07:34 am »

ok content post hopefully. I dunno sometimes I try to make content and people don't count it and then when I feel like I'm posting fluff people say its content. So who knows. But anyways this is my thought process.

I think its Voltaire? or wait... no its someone with a red picture...P... I don't remember his name now? If I remember I'll say it.

Anyway POE is super good or something and this guy uses it.

Oh maybe its Pingpongsam? I dunno w/e I'm sure someone knows who i'm talking about.

Anyways I'm jumping to scum teams. I've never done this before but here goes.

SS/AWA seems like it just works.

SS/RR I feel like RR's reactions are really not a partner with SS at all.(also sorry silver I guess i'm doing SS capitals this time)

SS/Yuma also a scary one. I'd say this is the other one I'm worried about but awaclus just fits better in my mind. Yuma just feels townish to me this game.

SS/GK uhh GK is town to me so hes just safe.

Ok so what if SS isn't scum. Well it that case GG pretty much I'm guessing but I feel pretty good about why hes scum because I don't see many teams that work.

AWA/RR This one I feel like there could be a chance they are kinda just lurking through the game but I dunno why it just doesn't seem likely at all.

Awa/yuma. once again a kinda scary chance but I have a gut feeling that yumas town. Its really not based on anything I can think of right now.

AWA/GK NO stop it GK is town(if hes scum I feel super bad at this game though)

hmm how about RR?

RR/yuma? uhhh sure I guess... if AWA and SS were both town I guess I'd have to go here. but ya just not feeling it.

So thats pretty much why I think SS is scum. woo.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #865 on: December 26, 2015, 09:07:05 am »

When playing with fire remember to keep ice at your side

Vote Count 4.1:

silverspawn (1): Gkrieg
Hydrad (2): silverspawn, Roadrunner
Not Voting (4): Awaclus, Hydrad, Eevee, Yuma

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 4 will end on December 31 at 12:00PM forum time.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #866 on: December 27, 2015, 12:48:56 am »

ah I see. everyone's so shocked by my towniness and amazed that they could ever see me as scum that they can't speak. I get that a lot.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #867 on: December 27, 2015, 05:16:08 am »

those random unsubstantiated town reads are scummy to me.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #868 on: December 27, 2015, 10:20:25 am »

Vote: Hydrad
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #869 on: December 27, 2015, 10:35:16 am »



Vote Count 4.2:

silverspawn (1): Gkrieg
Hydrad (3): silverspawn, Roadrunner, Awaclus
Not Voting (3): Hydrad, Eevee, Yuma

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 4 will end on December 31 at 12:00PM forum time.
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #870 on: December 27, 2015, 11:22:26 am »

haven't really been following along, but a

vote: hydrad seems like the best thing to do at this point
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #871 on: December 27, 2015, 11:25:07 am »

haven't really been following along, but a

vote: hydrad seems like the best thing to do at this point
That's the hammer 🔨 right?
Either way, I think either ss or Hydrad is scum
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Town: 22 games, 8 wins
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #872 on: December 27, 2015, 11:25:19 am »

haven't really been following along, but a

vote: hydrad seems like the best thing to do at this point

good job. With that you just sealed the death of all your fellow tree friends.

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #873 on: December 27, 2015, 11:25:28 am »

YOU WILL ALL DIE

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 4)
« Reply #874 on: December 27, 2015, 11:25:50 am »

Either way, I think either ss or Hydrad is scum

you are right.
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