So, two points of interest from the earlier discussion (sorry for taking longer on this, Dsell).
Galzria's Certainty
Galzria was saying that he's certain Robz is a Townie. He later says that it's because he doesn't hedge, but even then how can he be certain? Given how sly he was in Mafia II, I can't imagine that he would exaggerate a day 1 town read on Robz as certainty.
These are the explanations I can come up with right now:
1. Galzria and Robz are both masons (or some similar role). If this is the case, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't role claim, but I'm a newb.
2. Galzria is Mafia and Robz is townie. If Robz gets lynched, Galzria appears to be cleared. Why would a Mafia member argue so vehemently against the lynching of a townie? Well, it's a huge bonus if it means that Mafia member will be free of suspicion for the rest of the game.
3. Galzria and Robz are both Mafia. If Robz doesn't get lynch, that's a win. If Robz gets lynched, Galzria can argue that as a Mafia member there is no way that he would tie himself so closely to another Mafia member, and -- oops sorry -- that he just made a really bad read on Robz.
4. Galzria has some exotic role like a Cop that can act during the day. That's a real role, right?
jotheonah's role
j basically says that he has a role and that he may role claim in the morning. Even announcing that you have a role is unfortunate because it basically paints a big bullseye on your back for the Mafia. I don't know if actually revealing the role would have any effect other than opening up the possibility of a counterclaim.
And actually, I think this is a good reason for him to claim a specific role. Is there any reason why someone with a role should reveal that fact without the actual role? They're a Mafia target either way. I can actually think of just ONE reason. In that (unlikely!) case I think it is better for the town if I keep quiet on this one.
Nonetheless, I can see why j would do it. He has little choice as he's about to die. His role claim gives us insight based on how the players react. Even if he's destined to be killed at night, sparing him from the lynch would give the town a better chance of catching scum.
But anyway, my question here is -- why would j claim a power role without specifying what that role is? My ideas:
1. If there is a doctor in the game, he could be protected and given at least one night's chance to use his power effectively. In that case, the Mafia has better chance of success if they pick a different target. This only works if j's role is unknown. On the other hand, if he claims Doctor, the Mafia can target him without much worry of being blocked. Keeping his role secret is thus beneficial by giving the Mafia a more difficult decision to make.
2. I mentioned this above -- he might have a role that is best kept secret... I have one in mind but, since it is best kept secret, I won't reveal it here.
3. As suggested by Robz, this could be a last-ditch effort by a Mafia player. j doesn't claim an actual role so he can have more time to figure out what is most beneficial to claim. If the town acquits him without forcing him to claim an actual role, it might persuade an actual doctor or jailkeepr to protect him that night instead of an actual townie. It might also cause an actual cop to investigate someone else on the assumption that he is town.
Can anyone add to either of these two lists?